螳螂拳 Mantis Cutting Fist
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2023
- Hitting the first thing that comes shot, and then the opponent's limbs, is a founding concept of the praying mantis style.
The so-called "cutting fist" is exercised with this intention and is a simple and effective technique. All these basic techniques can be performed both bare hand and with a dagger and this suggests that in many martial arts bare hand techniques are derived from those with weapons.
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I like your mantis style... Great 👍
In Kali it's Called Gunting (Muscle destruction) Great Lesson, Master Basili!
Si Bob, Gunting, concept important in Mantis also
I hear ya about haters when it comes to knife defense. The biggest myth is that no one strikes with a thrust to the stomach, the haters say that people only slash to the face. This is 100% false. I had someone try to stab me in the mid section once with the basic thrust to the stomach, so I know two things. People DO thrust to the stomach, and wrist locks do work.
Also, you cannot train a total beginner with slashing, you have to start with simple thrusts, and then move up.
according to interpol roughly 70% of real knife attacks follow the pattern I've come to call the "prison shank pattern" and that is where someone just repeatedly stabs at the mid section. Having said that, most knife defense assumes the attacker doesn't know what they are doing and will fixate on the weapon as well as seems to forget that our frontal cortex basically turns off and fine motor movement becomes nearly impossible. So complicated movements will simply be unavailable to a person in a real life and death situation. Usually only gross motor movements, or simple movements, are actually available to a person in a situation where they have a huge adrenaline spike
In 2014 in San Francisco California US I got stabbed twice in the back, well once in the back and once on the butt cheek, after stopping an obviously mentally ill street person that was attacking a man with one leg in a wheelchair. This was happening just before 9am, because I was on my way to work at 9am, and there were hundreds of people standing there watching it happen. I didn't see the knife but apparently right around the time I grabbed the guy he stabbed the man in the wheelchair in the hand. I grabbed the guy in a move called "the seat belt" in jiu jitsu, well to be specific "seatbelt takedown", and was trying to go for a "rear naked choke" but he turned into me and faced me. Then he reached around me and stabbed me twice before I got two hands on the one arm controlling the weapon. I had some knife defense training and tbh I used exactly none of it in real life. What I actually used was really basic wrestling concepts I learned in highschool like "two on one" and "occupy the headspace" which basically means "grab the arm controlling the weapon with both hands, pull as hard as possible, and while shoving my head into their neck in the opposite direction I'm pulling their hands"
Real-life experiences are always the most important to ponder.
@@DanteBasili They really are. At the time I got stabbed I was a blue belt in jiu jitsu and had trained 3-5 days a week for about a year. When I was calm jiu jitsu was available for me to use but after getting stabbed it was almost like I forgot everything. The only things that actually seemed to be available to me at the time were the things I had learned as a kid and in college and had competed in(highschool/college wrestling in the US).
At around a minute in the video he mentions how the technique was most likely first developed with the use of weapons in mind and then later empty hands. I say this is the case with the vast majority of traditional martial arts. In English the word "martial" means "of or related to war" and "art" in that context means "a creative activity" so "martial art" means "a creative activity related to war". No formal military in history, that I'm aware of, went to war without weapons or if they did and were facing an opponent with weapons they almost surely lost. Empty hands are more of a modern obsession than it was in the past. People rarely fought for sport like we do now and if for no other reason other than even a mild cut could have easily gotten infected and lead to death. There are important differences between combat systems developed for war and ones developed for sport.
A couple of the most important concepts I learned in martial arts in general came from my minimal arnis/kali/escrima training and are the concepts of "no block" and "defang the snake". Other arts have similar concepts too but imho many are often not as overt about the training of those concepts. I would say my main art is Muay Chaiya and they have similar concepts as in escrima. When learning the krabi many of the concepts are very similar and even in the empty hands fighting the blocks can actually be seen as strikes.
Grazie 🙏🏽
Thank you for sharing! Tradition over fashion in all things, but especially matters of such practical importance as armed violence. The critics are lost, let them live and die that way. Knowledge is for the virtuous.
Non ho mai praticato queste arti, ma da profano ammiro fluidita' ed eleganza dei movimenti; credo di capire che tali movimenti influiscano positivamente sul corpo, mantenendo flessibilita' e sulla mente, aumentando l' autocontrollo.
Complimenti.
Sì per chi pratica è un’arte e una disciplina 🙏
Isso é bem semelhante no conceito Filipino (Guting), que pode ser com a lâmina ou ataques de mãos vazias. Comumente usado em Panantukan! Por isso ano o Mantis boxing e o uso em minhas síntese e aplicação!
I enjoy all of your instruction, however I enjoy your Mantis the best. Additionally, I am a long time student and instructor of a blade art. Everything you said was spot on. Thanks Master Dante!
Grazie 🙏🏽
U A OUR HERO
Non ho mai fatto arti ma lei è un grande maestro
Interesting concept. It is nearly identical to the kuntao silat concepts. Which tend to be described as "kung-fu with shortcuts".
Master, thanks
Excelente ✨✨✨
Great technique.
Very interesting and cool, great instruction. Thanks so much🙏🙏
Thanks as always Mark 🙏🏽
Love it!
Grazie mille come sempre M° Dante🙏
Ciao Alessandro, un abbraccio grande 🙏🏽
Como siempre que gran enseñanza maestro..
Cada día despierta más mi curiosidad y el deseo de seguir aprendiendo..
Gracias, gracias, thank you.
Systema also uses the shoulder flinch as a protective move. Better to get cut on the shoulder than stabbed/slashed in the next! And it is a naturally reflexive movement, so easy to train.
An important protection 🙏🏽
Mrc bcp
Thank you for sharing this video, Maestro Dante. As someone who once practiced Southern Style Praying Mantis, i.e., Chow Gar, those types of strikes to the arms can be very painful. That’s why the art placed a lot of emphasis on iron bone conditioning of the arms for not only absorbing strikes but for also delivering them. Does Seven Star Praying Mantis involve any iron bone conditioning of the arms? Thanks
Ciao David. There are many arm conditioning exercises, but not as emphasized as in the southern mantis.
"We must be generous with our partners" is such an important concept to convey to the student. So many people just starting an art are just working from their brain stem and when they do partner work it isn't long before their ego kicks in and they start trying to "win" in an exercise where "winning" isn't the point. You get the guys who can't relax and give you too much hard energy or you get the people who've done a little taiji and so they give you the "wet noodle" approach- neither is good for learning.
Always enjoy your stuff! Thanks for posting. Best! S.
P.S. I know you got your Mantis from George Xu, but do you mind my asking what style of Mantis you do is? 7 star? Cheers! S.
Ciao, with George Xu I studied Taiji, Bagua and Xinyi. Tang Lang I studied with Brendan Lai (seven stars) and then in China Taiji Meihua Tang Lang Quan and Liu He Tang lang Quan. 🙏🏽
Yeah its all about sportsmanship attitude which I like also to use a familiar concept. Don't get upset when you lose and don't gloat when you win, both are opportunities for learning and in games both are fun experiences if you have sportsmanship because in all games there are winners and losers. Games for fun are not for survival. Training is half game, half serious and real fighting is real because real life is not a video game.
Some people think tai chi is not real, if your tai chi is real and you have used it in real situations and are confident then their disbelief will only work to your advantage and you do not need to prove it to them, what you already know. It takes greater skill to use less force to end a fight then to use more.
And martial skill is not just physical fighting skill its social strategy too, like the ecologies of nature. It is ethics and intent as much as skill and health and of course self defense or defense of another.
If you don't pay attention even a small opponent can surprise you and do great damage.
If you create many friends your environment will become safer for you and everyone else and people will have your back more rather than putting a knife in it. There will be greater social harmony and less conflicts leading to fights to begin with.
True 🙏🏽
Been there 👍 visiting student already stated that every Shifu in China said he was full of wind and b.s 😂🤣 well we practiced a little push hands, I caught him 5 times , cold and gentle released . Taking care not to injure him. Ok I held back to give him practice. He picks me up 👍 then "his ego" made him decide "oh what if go further 💥" drops me on broken concrete on my head and shoulder !!
Even if this wasn't a stupid dangerous move. Everyone knew I'd just recovered from a broken back ! 27yrs🧑🦽. He left rather quickly and if he ever returns he will definitely understand what happens if I choose to apply unnecessary force.
Good job I have skills or that could of been very dangerous.
Coward hasn't returned
Students can easily let their pride lead them into unnecessary roughness, but there is an error of the opposite kind that completely undermines martial training. Most students are very civilized and begin training with an immense fear of offending their partner. If this is not corrected, nothing martial is ever accomplished. Young men overcome this problem most naturally, but women and older men who have never done anything rough are very difficult to enculturate.
Strange question ?
Any account of using fingernails as a slicing blade type weapon.
By holding my fingers in a diagonal ( paw 🐾 ) style.
I can infact make each fingernail cut over the same line !
I had a "biotin" problem with splitting nails but now i can literally smash my nails into wood leaving surprisingly deep cuts.it occurs to me that -
If if was to snap /slice these across the neck or wrist. I seriously believe they could be a very unexpected and dangerous weapon ?
Sounds ungentlemanly but if it keeps me alive 👍
Perhaps there have been people who have very tough and strong nails. Not me, I have brittle nails and I don't use them in martial arts. When I play classical guitar or Guqin I always have to strengthen my nails with nail polish.
👍👍👍🙏 Un video miravigliozo! Grazie!
Yo tuve un Maestro De Mantis que daba clases de defensa personal para Vigilantes y Policías. Decía que el estilo mantis era letal
Thank you, continue to pass on the tradition and ignore the haters, they don’t know, they only suppose, and they do that wrongly because they have not gone to the source, traditional practice.
sifu nesse seminário você aplicou chin-Na Mantes se sim você poderia mostrar?
Sim Daniel, fizemos um bom trabalho no Qin Na também, vou publicá-los.
Eu tento enviar o vídeo para Qin Na na próxima terça-feira 🙏🏽
@@DanteBasili obrigado sifu
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Buongiorno Maestro. Sto leggendo il Bubishi, non so se lo conosce, ma a parte evidenziare il fatto che il Karate viene sostanzialmente dalla Cina anche in questo libro si descrivono i punti vitali. Mi sono sempre chiesto, sulla base di un'esperienza più che trentennale, quanto possano essere realisticamente applicabili. Nella pratica di un'azione difensiva tutto si svolge troppo velocemente ed in maniera spesso del tutto casuale. Scusi se le pongo tale domanda e grazie in anticipo per la risposta che riterrà di dare.
Grazie per aver posto la domanda anche qui. Si i Bubishi sono degli scritti che testimoniano l'origine cinese del Karate, sembra che ne siano stati recentemente trovati anche a Taiwan e sono preziosi e interessanti non solo per i cultori del karate di Okinawa ma per tutti gli appassionati delle arti marziali. I punti vitali vengono naturalmente citati, ma l'annosa questione su come applicarli è in realtà molto semplice: nel "corpo a corpo" posso intervenire sui punti vitali con precisone, proprio come farebbe uno shiatsuka o un agopuntore, a distanza invece colpisco delle macro aree che possono comprendere più punti simultaneamente.
E' naturale, quello che posso fare con un pollice o con le dita non riesco a farlo con un pugno, un gomito od un piede... e viceversa.
Ci sono vecchie mappe di Shaolin che ora ha un mio allievo nella sua palestra (le presi al Tempio negli anni ottanta) che mostrano chiaramente questi raggruppamenti in macro aree. Quindi è tutto più semplice e meno magico di quello che sembra: nel Qin Na e nella Lotta Tradizionale posso intervenire "con precisione" sui singoli punti, un classico con innumerevoli varianti è quello di potenziare una leva articolare intervenendo anche sui punti vitali. Quando invece "si colpisce da distanza" si lavora per macro aree, come spiego anche in un recente video a proposito dei "punti mare" che nel loro insieme sono una "ampia fascia" che circonda l'avambraccio e colpibile con il così detto "pugno tagliente". Altro esempio è quando nel Tang Lang Quan si colpisce la nuca con il gomito, la zona vitale della nuca è un'area di circa dieci centimetri che comprende ben tre punti dell'agopuntura, sufficientemente ampia da essere efficacemente colpita con il gomito. Analogamente con un pugno (gancio) non colpisco i punti del meridiano dello stomaco sul viso o il punto Qimen (porta del Qi) sul tronco, ma semplicemente colpisco la mandibola ed il fegato, due efficaci ed ampie aree vitali. Gli esempi sono infiniti, e possono cambiare da stile a stile, ma anche se vi sono eccezioni il concetto generale sull'utilizzo di punti vitali è questo. Per quanto riguarda l'abilità di utilizzare gli agopunti nel corpo a corpo è una questione di conoscenza (che potrà tornarci utile anche per massaggi terapeutici) ricordo un bravo maestro di arti marziali che venendo in Italia trovò più soddisfacente e remunerante fare carriera come massaggiatore. Per quanto riguarda il colpire le macro aree efficacemente è solo questione di intento, esercizio ed abitudine. Come quando si tira con l'arco. Come diceva il maestro Jou Tsung Hwa: "non ci sono segreti, solo lavoro duro".
The style of Chinese martial arts is very different from that of Japanese martial arts.
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Hola!!!
Una excelente ilustración de la versatilidad del estilo mantis.
El concepto de que primero vino el trabajo de armas y luego el trabajo de puño, desarrollado a partir de las mismas, es coherente con el término "arte marcial". Ya que nadie iría a una batalla a mano vacía.
Maestro un placer ver su trabajo.
Saludos 🙏
PD: ciertos movimientos me recuerdan a la esgrima gaucha con facon (acá en Argentina), el visteo.
Ciao Oscar. Tengo muchos amigos argentinos en Italia, pero nunca he oído hablar de la esgrima gaucha, ¿tienes algún enlace para mostrarme?
@@DanteBasili me fijo
ruclips.net/video/P2Yx5AuBQUA/видео.html
Maestro ahí tiene un enlace.
Ya le busco más.
ruclips.net/user/shortsJDDX_z7tT10?feature=share3
Y ahí va otro.
Ojalá sea de su agrado.
Obviamente es una herencia de la esgrima española, adaptada a la idiosincrasia y hábitos del gaucho argentino.
En mi opinión las artes marciales, cualquiera sea su origen, sin patrimonio de la humanidad.
Y tienen que ser un vehículo de cultura y acercamiento entre las personas.
Algunos practicaremos kung fu, otros otra cosa.
Pero por sobre todo están las personas.
Un abrazo y gracias por su tiempo
PD: seguro hay muchos más. Pero ahí tiene un par para que tenga un panorama.
¡Muy, muy interesante! ¡Gracias Oscar, me hiciste descubrir algo que nunca había visto antes!
Ottima tenica.tante like per te!
Desgraciadamente ya estaba muy enfermo cuando practiqué defensa personal para reducir a un presunto delincuente o agresor.
Si hubiera sido más joven y hubiera estado sano habría aprendido Whu Shu estilo Mantis sin duda
La Mantis es un insecto terrible que mata presas mucho más grandes que ella y se las come vivas sin que se puedan soltar de su agarre.
Por eso hay que seleccionar a quien se enseña el estilo mantis ya que puede usarlo para herir gravemente a otra persona ,si no es un practicante equilibrado enseñarle golpes letales no es buena idea.
Ciao Dante,Maestro,studiando la Mantide ci rivedo l'origine del Jeet Kune Do nel suo trascendere il Wing Chun
Se non erro la Mantide è essa stessa alla base della nascita del Wing Chun
Assai interessante per me il fatto che è pensato per il combattimento con Daga/Pugnale/Coltello
Anche L'Hung Gar,che è tutt'altro stile,rientra fra i miei interessi
Grazie,come sempre,ed un abbraccio a te 🙏💪👍
Ciao Massimiliano, il maestro Wang Chong sosteneva che alle radici del Wing Chun ci sia molto airone - gru bianca ed anche serpente. Diceva anche che in Cina tutti sanno che il Wing Chun è uno stile airone. Infatti quando insegnò in Italia aveva scelto come simbolo proprio un airone ed un serpente, come si usa spesso anche per rappresentare il Taiji Quan 🙏🏽
@@DanteBasili Sì Dante, quanto mi ricordi mi era già noto ma il mio Sifu,il quale in Cina non ha appreso nella sola Hong Kong, è stato uno degli ultimi allievi di Wong Sheung Leung,ma anche altrove da "tizi" di cui io non so niente,ha arricchito con cenni ed aneddoti la mia stessa informazione in proposito
Per come è stato trasmesso a me comunque confermo quanto tu mi hai risposto
Alla prox 👋
That old guy is pretty good. 9 out of 10 RUclips kung fu tutorials aren't interesting. This one is.
S
Merci sifu...
Comme le disais le fondateur de l'Aikido: "Les mains ne sont que le prolongement des armes."
拍電影很讚，實戰就完蛋。
I seen Kung Fu go against
Gun fu and the Kung Fu guy was killed 🔥👍
Master probably was never punched for real for his whole life.
Slap boxing
Бой на боевых тапках!
Пусть этот кулак богомола с обысным мастером по боксу поспаррингует. Довольно быстро поймет, что такое бокс и что такое всякие там винчуни))
Per strada nessuno attacca così con un coltello... non metto in dubbio la bravura del maestro, ma insistete ancora a prendere in giro gli allievi con gli stage solo per i soldi. Non sono hater, sono solo reale.
papagaiada perca de tempo ilusão isto chama mata mosca
Try this with a boxer? 🤣
Learn from a Chinese Master for Kung Fu, Learn wine from French, not the vice versa.
I studied in China, from Chinese masters, in the eighties and in recent years the Chinese wines have become excellent. Times change 🙏🏽
What an inane comment. You do realize that martial arts are studied globally, right?
Детский сад,пригласи нормального боксера.
強いゾンビ達🧟♂️🧟♀️🧟🖕
Какую ерунду они изучают? Любой боксер побьет их тренера очень быстро за секунды.
Slow motion martial arts is boring 😴😴😴😴😴😴
It can be useful for students