I honestly had no liking for geckos until I started watching your channel. Now I have 2 leopard geckos, 3 crested geckos, 3 gold dust day geckos, and one grumpy Leachie. They are all amazing.
Before I watch the video, I’m going to say Cresties. My reasoning- Crested geckos (Imo) are easier to care for, since they don’t need a horizontal tank, so it takes up less floor space. And they don’t need any special heating, unlike Leos. They’re easier to feed. Pre-prepared diet, fruit, and occasionally some insects. Leos are completely insectivores. Handleability might go to Leos, but it depends on the individual
@MONKEYMANoffical in getting a crested today based on these reasonings Money is dumb reason It cost money to have room in your housing so its not as simple as more money That vertical set up is more relevant to people with money issues
A lot of these reasons are why I got a crested gecko over a leapard and even a bearded dragon. I had to think a lot about what can accommodate my wife as well. I know with live food it can make the enclosure a little smelly and I can tolerate it but I know my wife wouldn’t. A shorter base but taller tank would take less room up so my wife appreciated that as well. And then the crested gecko is in our room and I can just use a low wattage dark light for the crestie at night
I own them both :D Leopard Geckos can be left alone for a week that's a plus for me. Crested geckos are a little bit more apartment friendly when you're in your twenties and live in a shared apartment in a city like me, it won't take up as much space. Also, all of my room mates were a little skeptical about feeding live insects at first when I was gone, the powder diet is easier to manage. But I could always find a volunteer haha. Also I like the leopard gecko's day night cycle better. You can catch them (in summer time) early in the morning (5 am) awake in their enclosure. At least one of my 2 geckos. So i could actually get up with my pet
Hey Adam! I've been watching your channel for a little over a year. I got my first reptile around that same time, a crested gecko named Mokka. Today I bought a 120 gallon tank to cohab crested geckos and I couldn't be more excited! Just wanted to say thank you for all that you do in educating and inspiring others!!!
I originally wanted a snake, but after my mother vetoed that idea, I started looking into geckos and 2 months later, I picked up Neo, my juvenile Crested! He is so much fun and still nervous when I initially take him out to handle, but once hes in my hands he is always on the move, crawling up my shirt/arms. He is amazing :D
That’s so cute! My dog’s name is Neo and I do want a crested more than a Leo because of heat management and diet. Hope you and your gecko stays healthy ❤️
Try keeping a Leo with the right heat, right supplements, and kept on paper towels. Then dealing with impaction for no apparent reason. The warm belly baths, and belly massages are easy for me, because Bubba is a good boy, but he did squeak and chirp at me one bath. I couldn't imagine others Leo's who are less fortunate to have such a tolerant boy.
@@TCShaddix001 Leos won't often die without UVB, though it is STRONGLY recommended for it's health benefits. Crested geckos are actually in the exact same boat with UVB lighting in that it was once considered optional- but is now a requirement for keeping one. Please provide UVB lighting for your crested or leopard geckos.
I have both, and I absolutely adore the little quirks both have! My crested gecko, Ducky, has a routine of sticking her chin all the way up to the sky after licking up her food, which I adore seeing! On the other hand, my leopard gecko, Bumpy, will do the craziest things to get my attention, including screaming very loud once a night and stretching his head up to the tank door. They are both lovely creatures to be sharing my living space with!
My leopard figured out how to jump. Like, properly JUMP. Almost every night when we’ve gone to bed we hear a big commotion in her tank, inevitably go to check, and she’s balancing with her back legs standing on the door ledge, belly right against the glass, wondering what to do next. 😂 (And She’s actually in a tall tank- I got it secondhand so hey, if it had the floor space why not for that price- so that door ledge is a proper jump up for her too!)
As someone with both at the moment my Peanut boy is my absolute love. I always thought my leopard gecko would be easier to hold but I think I lucked out as my Crestie will chill with me for an hour before they start to get 'jumpy'. My Leo, Butters, doesn't ever like to leave her humid hide, hahah I guess I'm glad she likes it?
I think later in the year I might get both. Both my sons want reptiles and I love setting up tanks since I love plants so the thought of setting up 2 very different tanks sparks joy and the bonus will be 2 happy kids with 2 geckos living their best lives
“There are Giant leopard geckos.” “Leopard geckos won’t climb walls or go that far off the ground” Me looking behind at my Giant leopard gecko spiderman-clinging to the top of her exo terra background as she climbs. “You hear that Bandit?”
Mr. Adam, I had the same dilemma when I was trying to decide leopard v crested when I was getting my first gecko. I went with crested because I didn't like the chubby tail of the leopard. I liked the long thing tail of the crested. Also, I love how the crested can lick their own eyes. I found it fascinating and absolutely adorable to watch. I also wanted something more arboreal. There ya go. Crested wins. Of course, they are both adorable with their goofy smiles and 1/10 of 1 brain cell. There is no wrong answer. :) Thanks for the video!
I chose leopard gecko. my reasoning: morphs colors are much more clean and bright, beautiful eyes (plus eyelids = less weird), not jumpy, dont loose tail easily. I knew i wanted some kind of bright green or orange lizard, unfortunately both of them cant be green, but leopards have the most awesome electric and blood morphs. Soooo last week i got one :) Although i love light coloured lily whites, and literally any green reptile :) Cons for both: source of food: you keep leopard you keep crickets or roaches, you keep cresties you keep buying special diet. Pros: You can be more self sufficient with leopards.
I've tended to prefer Gargoyles over Crested because they're almost identical in care while the Gargoyle can regrow their tail while Crested seem to be rare to keep them...
A TIE ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I have both, but I could not decide either. Although I keep 3 Leopard Geckos, 2 Crested Geckos, and 1 Gargoyle gecko. The Crested Geckos do not like being held but allowing me to hold them while spraying down their enclosure (Spraying down the enclosure makes their feet slip and they accept my holding with an open hand as long as I place them on their ledge when I finish the spraying). The Gargoyle and Lepard Geckos accept me holding them, but only 1 leopard Gecko seems to enjoy it, the others accept it under their terms. So in the end I am doing 1 worse, I give a 3-way tile to Gargolyl, Crested, and Leopard Geckos.
To make it simple: best choice, it's the one that suits better to your lifestyle and the one you really want and are willing to care for after doing your research 😊
Completely agree. I love both, and have had both, but currently only have a leopard gecko because my room gets pretty hot (and I live in a hurricane-prone zone that might lose electricity in summer for extended periods of time) and I don't want to roast the crestie.
If you are interested in doing more comparison videos, I'd like to see a head to head (to head) between Leche and chewie geckoes.. Maybe add false chameleons as well as they are, at least superficially, similar
I know this is an older video, but I’m a new subscriber and just now seeing it. Just checked out your website and wondering if or when you’ll have any cresties available for sale?? Love your vids, bro!
I got my Bearded Dragon from a breaded and I love him so much. He turned 2 in the middle of September. I named him Bono Edge. He is so chill like Bono from U2 also. So far I haven’t seen him black beard. My next is going to be a Leopard Gecko. I still haven’t been to a reptile show yet. I have two tanks still because I upgraded from a 20 long to a 29 tall. Now I have a ZooMed front opening medium and he loves it. He still wants to climb so I need to upgrade to a tall. Bono is a high yellow citrus.
I have both. They’re so unique in their own ways. I have a lot more fun watching my leopard gecko chase down his roaches but whenever my cresties let me handle them without freaking out they’re so chill. I will say I think I have more fun setting up crested gecko enclosures than leopard geckos.
I am thinking about getting a crested gecko for a spare bioactive Exo Terra tank that I have. I just like setting up tropical enclosures. It would be fun to have one as a pet though.
I thought this was a really balanced video that perfectly covered all the main things that someone who's deciding between these two would be considering. I personally went with a Leo several months ago because I live in a drier climate and the whole not having eyeballs thing creeps me out a little. Lol. But I hope to get a crestie when I'm ready.
Living in central Texas, I actually ran into times this summer and early winter where , if I did nothing to the interior, it would get into the high 20s % RH. Since this is not a year-round thing I took to placing damp towels across parts of the screen top. RH would pretty quickly get to 35-40 RH and my Leo would finally leave his humid hide. And then also misted the interior a time or two per day.
I started watching you a year ago and you just helped me so much. My four idols are YOU and Snake Discovery and Clint’s Reptiles and Steve Irwin. Now after a year of watching you i have my first reptile.
I bought a Chevron Dalmatian Crested Gecko for my first one! He hasn't come yet because- Minnesota winter. I like the way they look better and I liked that they aren't so dependent on insects. Gaining confidence so I can eventually get a Gargoyle gecko bc I'm obsessed with them lol
I've got one of each. Leopard gecko was a freebie, 6 yo albino female. Crestie was a 50% off clearance fella that had spent 4 months in an 80 degree terrestrial enclosure at the pet shop and was described as "not really handleable". Both are super friendly, easy to care for, adorable, and do great with handling. I couldn't pick a favorite. I love them both! After seeing your videos on cave geckos, and such great experience with my geckos, I just had to have one. So last June I brought one home. Bastard still bites me every time I touch him. Leopard and Crestie tie for the best geckos!
It's funny because I also live in southern Ontario and I find it hard to keep my African Fat-Tailed Gecko's humidity high enough without getting too high. I think it's because of the type of heating I use, which is a deep heat projector. It took awhile to get my crested gecko's humidity and temp right too, but now he's happy as a peach! Edit: It took about a year before my crestie was consistently comfortable being active around me and being handled. I've only had my fat-tailed gecko for 5 months and she spends a week or so at a time hiding in her moist hide. I'm constantly trying to remind myself that it takes awhile for reptiles to warm up to people lol
I recommend switching to a halogen flood bulb connected to a dimmer or dimming thermostat, they’re more natural and beneficial than DHPs! The levels of infrared A and B they produce more closely mimic the sun (DHPs produce barely any IRA, the most beneficial wavelength).
For the temperature humidity part, I partly agree with you, but only because you live In a cold place, just like you said, adding humidity is easier than removing it, and that's the same with temperature, a person like you who lives in a cold environment might be luckier with cresties, but a person like me( I live in Italy) in the summer it gets really hot, and it's a pain to cool the enclosures down
11:14 this makes me laugh because I got bitten by one of the crested geckos at college (I’m not sure what I did wrong, but he’s known for being a bit grumpy. He had to come out because we were cleaning his enclosure) and I was more offended than anything. I called my parents (because I like updating them how my day’s going) they were so worried, it was very funny
I was at an expo today for some more tarantulas, aaaand found a tokay gecko that absolutely made me want it. I'm not set up for geckos or reptiles in general but that little dinosaur had me thinking really hard about starting right then and there. The crested geckos drew me in but the tokay captured my heart
I like them both, I have a friend who has a couple of crested geckos. They are adorable but I won't hold them because one I'm afraid it will jump on my face or it might be dropped and I don't want to get hurt so I let her hold it and I admire it from a distance
My first gecko was a crested and I absolutely loved him. Now i have two leopard geckos. Im not sure i could pick a favorite because i find myself missing having a crested now too. :,) They are both so freaking cute and some aspects about each are “easier” than the other but overall i agree with the tie. 😊 you pretty much nailed it.
I'm very partial to crested geckos! I have five of them, and I've had two Leo's as well, love both. I agree that they are similar but also veryyy different! I love building crestie enclosures you have to be creative! I also have been bitten by both, and I found the leos bite was worse, not that it was bad at all, but was worse for sure! But it's from mistaking my fingers for food xD
Just wanted to add in here- for cresties humidity it is important to let the humidity drop to about 40-50% at times then have a spike at about 60-80% - You want about 12 hours with high humidity and 12 hours with lower humidity every day. If you keep it constantly at 60-80% the cresties will get a RI. Babies are way more sensitive to this than adults are in my experience.
I have both a leopard gecko and crested gecko. Both are very easy, even when you have a large collection. No one is easier than the other. No one is a better pet than the other. It just comes down to personal preference. Do you want a terrestrial gecko that likes it more dry or an arboreal gecko that likes it humid and cooler? Get what you. If you want a blue tongue or a beardy as your first reptile, do your research and go for it. Blue tongues and beardys are very similar but different as well. Like ball pythons and corn snakes.
I've heard a lot of mixed things on cohabing cresties. You should do a little break down on the how to and maybe bring in another big creator who focuses on cresties!
They’re solitary animals and don’t benefit from it. They’re very likely to compete for resources, which could escalate to fighting. It can be done successfully in a very large enclosure, but most people do it in an enclosure that’s too small to ethically cohab, unfortunately.
Cresties are my favourites personally, i really wanted to have one, but since i never had reptiles and im still 18, i dont have the conditions to keep one properly. So i'll have to gather some money someway and get everything ready if i want one. Here in Portugal they're kinda hard to find, so the only thing i saw at the moment were some going at 135, wich is not that cheap for me since i cant have a job for now due to some uni circumstances.
One is arboreal the other terrestrial… my leopard gecko didnt get the memo it thinks it’s both. Ever since I put in a 3D rock background it’s been climbing up almost every night. Usually this at this time I handle it and let it climb my hands till it tires out, once I put it back in the tank it just chills in the basking spot lol.
I'd have to give my vote to crested geckos. They're so easy to care for and fun to watch. I personally love when they jump and climb as it just makes me laugh so hard. (Even when I have to get them off the ceiling) awesome video! 👌
My crestie seems to be missing something upstairs. She quit eating in a 18x18x24. I moved her to an 18x18x18 and she's done so much better and is back eating. I was saving that enclosure. But now I'll look for something to live in the 24 tall.
I'm actually planning on getting mourning geckos! I have done a lot of research and most of their care is almost identical to crested geckos. I'm super excited to set up a bioactive jungle terrarium for them! I know it's possible to do bioactive set ups for drier dwelling species like leopard geckos but it's just easier to find a clean up crew that can survive in a humid environment rather than an arid one.
Just be ready to find tons of eggs and house them. My mourning geckos multiplied into near 100 in less than a year. They are very cute to watch chirp and talk to each other though! Care is exactly like cresteds
I feel like cresties are more popular. At a local reptile show I volunteer with we have a vendor that is a gecko rescue. She sold 4 cresties and NO leopard geckos. She says she's over-run with leopard geckos. I had a leopard gecko named Nessie. She was my very first pet reptile. After 9 years though she really wasn't getting the attention I knew she deserved because I've become more involved with reptiles and found I loved snakes more. So now Nessie lives with a friend of mine who I know will love her for the rest of her days. Cresties are pretty cool. New Caledonian geckos in general are just awesome.
personally leos are my fav but due to the mega high humidity in my room [ due to all my aquariums] they are not an option and i can only own terrestrial reptiles or amphibians. might consider african fat tailed geckos
@Wickens Wicked Reptiles Wouldn't it be better for you guys over the big pond to make a Learpad vs Coleonyx Video? Both two absolut nice species, but differnt. Here in Europa, and Germany in special, it's hard to get Coleonyx if you don't want some from mass breeding companys. Lucky to have me 1,2 group and there always fun and so easy to keep. I assume they are more easy to get in the US and Canada.
@ I just want to say thank you for replying to my comment it means a lot to me I have used you as a source to go off give my geckos the best care ever also if you were to recommend the next reptile for me to get after a leopard and crested gecko what would it be have a great night day and afternoon Thanks:Wesley
It feels illegal to be this early- but this is so interesting. The differences between the two goes much farther beyond arboreal and not. I do think (personally) setups for cresties are more difficult to set up, just because of the fact that they need such a thick “jungle”.
I have a crestie and my sister has a leo, but she said that she kinda wishes she got a crestie because they're really active at night, and their wide mouths and huge eyes make them look really derpy and stupid, it's kinda hilarious.
At 22 Tinley, I got two crested and one chachoua . I like the geockos from New Caledonia. I had never had one before. They are sweet. One got out and was trimitized, but I'm working with him. I named my crestes lime and Coconut, I will get another female and name her tequila, the chewie is named squishy. She is sooooo cute, she's a baby.
I own a leopard gecko and a crested gecko. They're both adorable and I find they're pretty equal in terms of care difficulty. I love how interactive my leopard gecko is, as she will come investigate whatever I'm doing if I'm near the terrarium, and she also "asks" to be let out daily by waiting at the door of her tank and climbing into my hands herself once the door is opened. That being said, my leo is 5 years old whereas my crestie is just a baby so the interaction level or handability may change :) Overall, I do love both species. I think the deal breaker between them really comes down to the space required for the terrarium and your tolerance for bugs. When I was planning to get another reptile, I ultimately chose a crested gecko because they don't need the horizontal space.
I enjoy crested geckos much more than leopard geckos, mostly because they can be fed the powdered diet more often than needing live insects all the time. And thanks for mentioning my home state Adam! I’m from Phoenix, Arizona and I have one crested gecko named Spyro. Right now he’s at my parents house because I have to get an emotional support animal letter from my psychiatrist that allows me to take him to my apartment because my apartment sadly has a no pets policy.
I've got both. 2 cresties and 1 leo. I got my leo first then a crestie and then i got another crestie from a breeder and it had no tail but its still cute. My leo is in a 40gal and my cresties are in 20gal tall hexagon tank each.
The Gargoyle gecko is almost the same as the Crested but grows back its tail and does not drop it as easy. Could you do a video about the Rankins dragon? A bearded dragon in a small package. I've got 2 of them as my first lizards (I do have 28 years of experience with pond sliders) and they are super cute. Its like having a mini Diamond. :)
got a yellow uro bout 3 weeks ago, concerned wont eat wont bask, puffs up when tryig to tame her. did i get just a really distressed homesick wild caught?lol afraid shes not gona do well if she keeps refusing to eat or bask
@@nightinggale6470 from my Local pet store. They ordered it for me. Couldnt be because of the weather could it? It is cold. i have heard of them not eating and sleeping during all winter
I got two extreme harlequin crested geckos for free recently along with their cages and they’re awesome. Super skittish at first though. I’m happy I have my gargoyle as well but even now she’s been hiding more too. Either way they’re all awesome and I can’t wait to complete my New Caledonia collection
I have two cested and a garg, love all three of them. I've been pushing for leopards but the Mrs. isn't a fan of the insectivore diet though she loves the look of them.
Please give information on how to order a gecko from you. My daughter and I are starting to get into reptiles and I think this would be a great pet. Thank you sir.
I've had 3 leos and they're all completely different personalities lol. It completely shifts how you look at reptiles. My most recent, Mondo, has been the most work with a couple impactions just removed by the vet, but otherwise they've been wonderful pets and companions.
I’d love to know how you keep your plants alive and looking really healthy. I am no good with plants at all. I have 12 bioactive set ups and I’ve probably spent hundreds on plants as they keep dying
i have a leopard gecko named tostito and i intend to get another leopard gecko! for me, its the cuteness factor and the fact i can pull my little guy out of his tank to let him crawl on me while im doodling or editting videos. something about those eyelids and long smile is to die for. crested geckos certainly have their own cuteness about them but imo doesnt compare to a leopard gecko!
Heycim from niagara falls as well i got my self a few snakes now im really loving the hobby i just got a crested gecko as well. I met you the expo back in november i believe in sauga. Im wondering if you have time to talk reptiles and for me to possibly learn from someone experienced or if you could point me the right way. Please message me if you happen to see this i love your channel cheers
They are both just so cute and so docile I have 4 Leopard geckos and 4 crested geckos and they are all just totally amazing along with all my other animals.
I don't have either yet but I think I want a leopard gecko a bit more, they're adorable and sometimes misting setups can be difficult to setup and maintain, but also I feel like if you look at some cresties the wrong way they drop their tails xD (obviously this depends a lot on how they're handled and acclimated to people but still, haha)
Al’s right I also gotta say “ where are they giving them away for free?” I would literally take them all. Here in the states I have never come around a free reptile except my wild rescues. I paid $40 for my crested when it was on sale but they run about $60 here in the states. Price is about the same with leopards
I did get my female first because they said she was male then after reaching and learning the difference on my own. A month later got a male. Both from pet supplies plus. Why was that a bad idea? They are kept together in a 20g long. Mostly ignore each other. About the same size around the same age. Female eat way more. I leave crickets to be hunted and feed mealworm 2x a week. Only the female comes out to eat them. I feel the male is loosing weight but don't know. I've owned tarantulas with no problems. I got a ball python I've had for 7 years from a baby. I've had the leopard Geckos 6 and 5 months. Can you please link me to the videos that can help with feeding and although to late why was big box pet store a bad idea. For me my only option?
Mom and I are team Leopard Gecko all the way. They are easier to find in their enclosure. They like to sit with us and visit. They don't get frog butt when they lose their tails. We live in Kamloops BC, where it is way harder to keep the air humid. Mom bought her Alice at an Expo as a normal. Turned out she was a Giant. My Fiest is a Mack Snow. Love them both.
Use a deep layer of soil substrate. Pour water directly into the substrate, just make sure it isn’t too wet on top. Use a digital hygrometer to measure humidity. If the enclosure has a mesh lid, cover most of it with foil tape.
I watched more to see if it swayed me more or less to wanting to add a crested gecko to my collection. Do think once I've that little extra time I will be doing so. I absolutely love my leopard gecko though. Only one of my reptiles that has 'bit' me, but that was when she first came home, so my own fault as she was just defending herself against this strange being she didn't really know. Completely different now. Bar the scratches I got on my forehead a few weeks back when my head seemed to disappear as she was exploring up there, she's my sweet princess Indi now 😊
My leo bounces back and forth from super sociable to completely ignoring me. He usually doesn’t want to be touched or handles unless I spend at least an hour messing around in his cage and keeping my hand by him a day. Cool lil dude though.
Idk about his crested gecko but the ease of handling with mine depends on when I handle him. Since he’s nocturnal if I handle him at night he is way more hyperactive and will jump off my hand into my face and just jump a lot more often in general. Even tho you can predict when and where he’s gonna jump and he’s not very fast once he lands it’s still a bit much for some people. However, if I hold me during the day he rests more in my hand and may jump occasionally to my other hand but not near as much. My leopard gecko is only a juvenile so I can’t speak for him much yet but he seems pretty chill he sometimes runs up my shirt and on to the back of my neck and it’s hard to grab him lol but both are extremely fun and cute lizards. I want a bearded dragon next. This channel has increased my love for lizards. I still can’t bring myself to like snakes that’s just not my cup of tea but I definitely love lizards
@@WickensWickedReptiles Do the crested geckos tend to calm down as they get older? Mine is under a year old he’s probably about 6 months old right now. And thanks for the reply!
I plan to have both I got a leopard gecko not to long ago little baby named him sir Archibald pinwall and I love watching him eat and hunt down cricket’s it’s been awesome
the one time my crestie bit me it was like being pecked by a duckling, a little "what was that?" when i was deciding cresties won because of the heat and humidity requirements and diet. have two now and no regrets :)
I honestly had no liking for geckos until I started watching your channel. Now I have 2 leopard geckos, 3 crested geckos, 3 gold dust day geckos, and one grumpy Leachie. They are all amazing.
It's so addicting
Yeaaaah they’re definitely adorable
@@janellekrivoruk2493 yeah!!
I have a crested gecko thinking of a ball python
Leopard geckos in leachies are my two favorites
Before I watch the video, I’m going to say Cresties. My reasoning-
Crested geckos (Imo) are easier to care for, since they don’t need a horizontal tank, so it takes up less floor space. And they don’t need any special heating, unlike Leos.
They’re easier to feed. Pre-prepared diet, fruit, and occasionally some insects. Leos are completely insectivores.
Handleability might go to Leos, but it depends on the individual
Tall tank also cost little bit more money to do I’d got leopard gecko
@MONKEYMANoffical in getting a crested today based on these reasonings
Money is dumb reason
It cost money to have room in your housing so its not as simple as more money
That vertical set up is more relevant to people with money issues
A lot of these reasons are why I got a crested gecko over a leapard and even a bearded dragon. I had to think a lot about what can accommodate my wife as well. I know with live food it can make the enclosure a little smelly and I can tolerate it but I know my wife wouldn’t. A shorter base but taller tank would take less room up so my wife appreciated that as well. And then the crested gecko is in our room and I can just use a low wattage dark light for the crestie at night
I own them both :D
Leopard Geckos can be left alone for a week that's a plus for me.
Crested geckos are a little bit more apartment friendly when you're in your twenties and live in a shared apartment in a city like me, it won't take up as much space.
Also, all of my room mates were a little skeptical about feeding live insects at first when I was gone, the powder diet is easier to manage. But I could always find a volunteer haha.
Also I like the leopard gecko's day night cycle better. You can catch them (in summer time) early in the morning (5 am) awake in their enclosure. At least one of my 2 geckos. So i could actually get up with my pet
Man that’s a long comment🙂
Hey Adam! I've been watching your channel for a little over a year. I got my first reptile around that same time, a crested gecko named Mokka. Today I bought a 120 gallon tank to cohab crested geckos and I couldn't be more excited! Just wanted to say thank you for all that you do in educating and inspiring others!!!
I originally wanted a snake, but after my mother vetoed that idea, I started looking into geckos and 2 months later, I picked up Neo, my juvenile Crested! He is so much fun and still nervous when I initially take him out to handle, but once hes in my hands he is always on the move, crawling up my shirt/arms. He is amazing :D
That’s so cute! My dog’s name is Neo and I do want a crested more than a Leo because of heat management and diet. Hope you and your gecko stays healthy ❤️
They’re both so different, it’s hard to compare. Leo’s are prob easier bc they don’t require misting, but it’s fun to have a tropical gecko
I think the cresties are easier because you don't need the enclosure to be hot, and they do fine without uvb where the leos will die without it.
Try keeping a Leo with the right heat, right supplements, and kept on paper towels. Then dealing with impaction for no apparent reason. The warm belly baths, and belly massages are easy for me, because Bubba is a good boy, but he did squeak and chirp at me one bath.
I couldn't imagine others Leo's who are less fortunate to have such a tolerant boy.
@@TCShaddix001 Leos won't often die without UVB, though it is STRONGLY recommended for it's health benefits. Crested geckos are actually in the exact same boat with UVB lighting in that it was once considered optional- but is now a requirement for keeping one. Please provide UVB lighting for your crested or leopard geckos.
@@TCShaddix001 true but crests require more daily care in my opinion.
Yeah
I have both, and I absolutely adore the little quirks both have! My crested gecko, Ducky, has a routine of sticking her chin all the way up to the sky after licking up her food, which I adore seeing! On the other hand, my leopard gecko, Bumpy, will do the craziest things to get my attention, including screaming very loud once a night and stretching his head up to the tank door. They are both lovely creatures to be sharing my living space with!
My leopard figured out how to jump. Like, properly JUMP. Almost every night when we’ve gone to bed we hear a big commotion in her tank, inevitably go to check, and she’s balancing with her back legs standing on the door ledge, belly right against the glass, wondering what to do next. 😂
(And She’s actually in a tall tank- I got it secondhand so hey, if it had the floor space why not for that price- so that door ledge is a proper jump up for her too!)
As someone with both at the moment my Peanut boy is my absolute love. I always thought my leopard gecko would be easier to hold but I think I lucked out as my Crestie will chill with me for an hour before they start to get 'jumpy'.
My Leo, Butters, doesn't ever like to leave her humid hide, hahah I guess I'm glad she likes it?
Peanut and butters omg what cute names
I think later in the year I might get both. Both my sons want reptiles and I love setting up tanks since I love plants so the thought of setting up 2 very different tanks sparks joy and the bonus will be 2 happy kids with 2 geckos living their best lives
Both are amazing
haha such an on time video with the big Cali show this weekend! :P
“There are Giant leopard geckos.” “Leopard geckos won’t climb walls or go that far off the ground”
Me looking behind at my Giant leopard gecko spiderman-clinging to the top of her exo terra background as she climbs. “You hear that Bandit?”
Same here mine climbs all over up vines and on top of hides I just ordered some big sticks to put in since I noticed she loves to climb
Mr. Adam, I had the same dilemma when I was trying to decide leopard v crested when I was getting my first gecko. I went with crested because I didn't like the chubby tail of the leopard. I liked the long thing tail of the crested. Also, I love how the crested can lick their own eyes. I found it fascinating and absolutely adorable to watch. I also wanted something more arboreal. There ya go. Crested wins. Of course, they are both adorable with their goofy smiles and 1/10 of 1 brain cell. There is no wrong answer. :) Thanks for the video!
I chose leopard gecko. my reasoning: morphs colors are much more clean and bright, beautiful eyes (plus eyelids = less weird), not jumpy, dont loose tail easily. I knew i wanted some kind of bright green or orange lizard, unfortunately both of them cant be green, but leopards have the most awesome electric and blood morphs. Soooo last week i got one :) Although i love light coloured lily whites, and literally any green reptile :) Cons for both: source of food: you keep leopard you keep crickets or roaches, you keep cresties you keep buying special diet. Pros: You can be more self sufficient with leopards.
I've tended to prefer Gargoyles over Crested because they're almost identical in care while the Gargoyle can regrow their tail while Crested seem to be rare to keep them...
Thanks! There both such fantastic pets , and even better beginner reptiles! Thanks again for all you do!
Yeah I loved this vid!
I just picked up my first crestie at a reptile expo this past weekend. I love the way they feel.
How is Ty going so far?
A TIE ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I have both, but I could not decide either. Although I keep 3 Leopard Geckos, 2 Crested Geckos, and 1 Gargoyle gecko. The Crested Geckos do not like being held but allowing me to hold them while spraying down their enclosure (Spraying down the enclosure makes their feet slip and they accept my holding with an open hand as long as I place them on their ledge when I finish the spraying). The Gargoyle and Lepard Geckos accept me holding them, but only 1 leopard Gecko seems to enjoy it, the others accept it under their terms.
So in the end I am doing 1 worse, I give a 3-way tile to Gargolyl, Crested, and Leopard Geckos.
So hard to decide
To make it simple: best choice, it's the one that suits better to your lifestyle and the one you really want and are willing to care for after doing your research 😊
Yes! 😀
Completely agree. I love both, and have had both, but currently only have a leopard gecko because my room gets pretty hot (and I live in a hurricane-prone zone that might lose electricity in summer for extended periods of time) and I don't want to roast the crestie.
Yeah that like completely goes along with my comment and yes i do agree
I’m in Colorado! and it is dry all year round 🤦🏼♂️ so I love having a leopard gecko cause he can just chill with me all the time🤣😂
Same, the humidity is perfect here!
If you are interested in doing more comparison videos, I'd like to see a head to head (to head) between Leche and chewie geckoes.. Maybe add false chameleons as well as they are, at least superficially, similar
Great idea
I know this is an older video, but I’m a new subscriber and just now seeing it. Just checked out your website and wondering if or when you’ll have any cresties available for sale?? Love your vids, bro!
thanks so much! Only canada sales for now
Appreciate the timely response!
could you do an updated hognose snake care guide?! i love your channel xx
I got my Bearded Dragon from a breaded and I love him so much. He turned 2 in the middle of September. I named him Bono Edge. He is so chill like Bono from U2 also. So far I haven’t seen him black beard. My next is going to be a Leopard Gecko. I still haven’t been to a reptile show yet. I have two tanks still because I upgraded from a 20 long to a 29 tall. Now I have a ZooMed front opening medium and he loves it. He still wants to climb so I need to upgrade to a tall. Bono is a high yellow citrus.
I have both. They’re so unique in their own ways. I have a lot more fun watching my leopard gecko chase down his roaches but whenever my cresties let me handle them without freaking out they’re so chill. I will say I think I have more fun setting up crested gecko enclosures than leopard geckos.
I am thinking about getting a crested gecko for a spare bioactive Exo Terra tank that I have. I just like setting up tropical enclosures. It would be fun to have one as a pet though.
I thought this was a really balanced video that perfectly covered all the main things that someone who's deciding between these two would be considering. I personally went with a Leo several months ago because I live in a drier climate and the whole not having eyeballs thing creeps me out a little. Lol. But I hope to get a crestie when I'm ready.
Living in central Texas, I actually ran into times this summer and early winter where , if I did nothing to the interior, it would get into the high 20s % RH. Since this is not a year-round thing I took to placing damp towels across parts of the screen top. RH would pretty quickly get to 35-40 RH and my Leo would finally leave his humid hide. And then also misted the interior a time or two per day.
Wow eh!
I started watching you a year ago and you just helped me so much. My four idols are YOU and Snake Discovery and Clint’s Reptiles and Steve Irwin. Now after a year of watching you i have my first reptile.
Wow!! What reptile?😀
@@Geckogirlguide a Rankins Dragon
I bought a Chevron Dalmatian Crested Gecko for my first one! He hasn't come yet because- Minnesota winter. I like the way they look better and I liked that they aren't so dependent on insects. Gaining confidence so I can eventually get a Gargoyle gecko bc I'm obsessed with them lol
I've got one of each. Leopard gecko was a freebie, 6 yo albino female. Crestie was a 50% off clearance fella that had spent 4 months in an 80 degree terrestrial enclosure at the pet shop and was described as "not really handleable". Both are super friendly, easy to care for, adorable, and do great with handling. I couldn't pick a favorite. I love them both!
After seeing your videos on cave geckos, and such great experience with my geckos, I just had to have one. So last June I brought one home. Bastard still bites me every time I touch him. Leopard and Crestie tie for the best geckos!
It's funny because I also live in southern Ontario and I find it hard to keep my African Fat-Tailed Gecko's humidity high enough without getting too high. I think it's because of the type of heating I use, which is a deep heat projector. It took awhile to get my crested gecko's humidity and temp right too, but now he's happy as a peach!
Edit: It took about a year before my crestie was consistently comfortable being active around me and being handled. I've only had my fat-tailed gecko for 5 months and she spends a week or so at a time hiding in her moist hide. I'm constantly trying to remind myself that it takes awhile for reptiles to warm up to people lol
I recommend switching to a halogen flood bulb connected to a dimmer or dimming thermostat, they’re more natural and beneficial than DHPs! The levels of infrared A and B they produce more closely mimic the sun (DHPs produce barely any IRA, the most beneficial wavelength).
For the temperature humidity part, I partly agree with you, but only because you live In a cold place, just like you said, adding humidity is easier than removing it, and that's the same with temperature, a person like you who lives in a cold environment might be luckier with cresties, but a person like me( I live in Italy) in the summer it gets really hot, and it's a pain to cool the enclosures down
11:14 this makes me laugh because I got bitten by one of the crested geckos at college (I’m not sure what I did wrong, but he’s known for being a bit grumpy. He had to come out because we were cleaning his enclosure) and I was more offended than anything. I called my parents (because I like updating them how my day’s going) they were so worried, it was very funny
That black leopard gecko was beautiful! Great video Adam!
I love em
Is there a video for his leopard gecko enclosure? I imagine the clips are of his enclosure... I want inspiration for bioactive...
I was at an expo today for some more tarantulas, aaaand found a tokay gecko that absolutely made me want it. I'm not set up for geckos or reptiles in general but that little dinosaur had me thinking really hard about starting right then and there.
The crested geckos drew me in but the tokay captured my heart
I like them both, I have a friend who has a couple of crested geckos. They are adorable but I won't hold them because one I'm afraid it will jump on my face or it might be dropped and I don't want to get hurt so I let her hold it and I admire it from a distance
My first gecko was a crested and I absolutely loved him. Now i have two leopard geckos. Im not sure i could pick a favorite because i find myself missing having a crested now too. :,) They are both so freaking cute and some aspects about each are “easier” than the other but overall i agree with the tie. 😊 you pretty much nailed it.
Crested for me, absolutely love mine, and has so much personality. I feed bugs occasionally and love to see him hunt. Also the FEETS! SO CUTE 😍
I'm very partial to crested geckos! I have five of them, and I've had two Leo's as well, love both. I agree that they are similar but also veryyy different!
I love building crestie enclosures you have to be creative!
I also have been bitten by both, and I found the leos bite was worse, not that it was bad at all, but was worse for sure! But it's from mistaking my fingers for food xD
not you coming for clint’s reptiles gig 😭 greta video though, love your channel
Just wanted to add in here- for cresties humidity it is important to let the humidity drop to about 40-50% at times then have a spike at about 60-80% - You want about 12 hours with high humidity and 12 hours with lower humidity every day. If you keep it constantly at 60-80% the cresties will get a RI. Babies are way more sensitive to this than adults are in my experience.
The fact a Leopard Gecko was on his shoulder says it all... Leopard Geckos win the overall simply for being more personable.
I have both a leopard gecko and crested gecko. Both are very easy, even when you have a large collection. No one is easier than the other. No one is a better pet than the other. It just comes down to personal preference. Do you want a terrestrial gecko that likes it more dry or an arboreal gecko that likes it humid and cooler? Get what you. If you want a blue tongue or a beardy as your first reptile, do your research and go for it. Blue tongues and beardys are very similar but different as well. Like ball pythons and corn snakes.
I've heard a lot of mixed things on cohabing cresties. You should do a little break down on the how to and maybe bring in another big creator who focuses on cresties!
great idea
They’re solitary animals and don’t benefit from it. They’re very likely to compete for resources, which could escalate to fighting. It can be done successfully in a very large enclosure, but most people do it in an enclosure that’s too small to ethically cohab, unfortunately.
I own both and gotta say they both have pros and cons but I don't think either is better
Cresties are my favourites personally, i really wanted to have one, but since i never had reptiles and im still 18, i dont have the conditions to keep one properly. So i'll have to gather some money someway and get everything ready if i want one. Here in Portugal they're kinda hard to find, so the only thing i saw at the moment were some going at 135, wich is not that cheap for me since i cant have a job for now due to some uni circumstances.
One is arboreal the other terrestrial… my leopard gecko didnt get the memo it thinks it’s both. Ever since I put in a 3D rock background it’s been climbing up almost every night. Usually this at this time I handle it and let it climb my hands till it tires out, once I put it back in the tank it just chills in the basking spot lol.
I'd have to give my vote to crested geckos. They're so easy to care for and fun to watch. I personally love when they jump and climb as it just makes me laugh so hard. (Even when I have to get them off the ceiling) awesome video! 👌
My crestie seems to be missing something upstairs. She quit eating in a 18x18x24. I moved her to an 18x18x18 and she's done so much better and is back eating. I was saving that enclosure. But now I'll look for something to live in the 24 tall.
I'm thinking of getting a Leppard soon. Just getting the enclosure on point.I can't decide if I want to try bioactive or not.
It would be awesome to see a gargoyle gecko vs created gecko video!
I'm actually planning on getting mourning geckos! I have done a lot of research and most of their care is almost identical to crested geckos. I'm super excited to set up a bioactive jungle terrarium for them! I know it's possible to do bioactive set ups for drier dwelling species like leopard geckos but it's just easier to find a clean up crew that can survive in a humid environment rather than an arid one.
Just be ready to find tons of eggs and house them. My mourning geckos multiplied into near 100 in less than a year. They are very cute to watch chirp and talk to each other though! Care is exactly like cresteds
Leopard gecko I have. I love him But I'm thinking of another gecko. But don't quite know if I want a leopard gecko, a day gecko or one Crested gecko
I feel like cresties are more popular.
At a local reptile show I volunteer with we have a vendor that is a gecko rescue. She sold 4 cresties and NO leopard geckos. She says she's over-run with leopard geckos.
I had a leopard gecko named Nessie. She was my very first pet reptile. After 9 years though she really wasn't getting the attention I knew she deserved because I've become more involved with reptiles and found I loved snakes more. So now Nessie lives with a friend of mine who I know will love her for the rest of her days.
Cresties are pretty cool. New Caledonian geckos in general are just awesome.
I have two leopard geckos in the same tank, they have loved together for their entire lives. Is this still okay? The tank is big enough for one also.
personally leos are my fav but due to the mega high humidity in my room [ due to all my aquariums] they are not an option and i can only own terrestrial reptiles or amphibians. might consider african fat tailed geckos
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Wouldn't it be better for you guys over the big pond to make a Learpad vs Coleonyx Video?
Both two absolut nice species, but differnt. Here in Europa, and Germany in special, it's hard to get Coleonyx if you don't want some from mass breeding companys. Lucky to have me 1,2 group and there always fun and so easy to keep.
I assume they are more easy to get in the US and Canada.
Hi, I just got my first leopard gecko two days ago, but I want to add plants to my Bioactive terrarium. What plants are safe to use?
I own both and they are both very good and I completely agree
me toooo
@ I just want to say thank you for replying to my comment it means a lot to me I have used you as a source to go off give my geckos the best care ever also if you were to recommend the next reptile for me to get after a leopard and crested gecko what would it be have a great night day and afternoon
Thanks:Wesley
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It feels illegal to be this early- but this is so interesting. The differences between the two goes much farther beyond arboreal and not. I do think (personally) setups for cresties are more difficult to set up, just because of the fact that they need such a thick “jungle”.
Oh I can decide. So I have both. Several of both.
I have a crestie and my sister has a leo, but she said that she kinda wishes she got a crestie because they're really active at night, and their wide mouths and huge eyes make them look really derpy and stupid, it's kinda hilarious.
That’s so awesome
At 22 Tinley, I got two crested and one chachoua . I like the geockos from New Caledonia. I had never had one before. They are sweet. One got out and was trimitized, but I'm working with him. I named my crestes lime and Coconut, I will get another female and name her tequila, the chewie is named squishy. She is sooooo cute, she's a baby.
This video idea is great, hope to see more "duels" for comparison
I own a leopard gecko and a crested gecko. They're both adorable and I find they're pretty equal in terms of care difficulty. I love how interactive my leopard gecko is, as she will come investigate whatever I'm doing if I'm near the terrarium, and she also "asks" to be let out daily by waiting at the door of her tank and climbing into my hands herself once the door is opened. That being said, my leo is 5 years old whereas my crestie is just a baby so the interaction level or handability may change :)
Overall, I do love both species. I think the deal breaker between them really comes down to the space required for the terrarium and your tolerance for bugs. When I was planning to get another reptile, I ultimately chose a crested gecko because they don't need the horizontal space.
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Vanessa……I see you commenting, on all the reptile channels I watch, in the same way. I’ve got to ask; do you know them?
@@loriw2661 LOOOOOOOL
I see her on all the reptile channels I watch to. I just assumed it was a coincidence because we both watch reptile stuff
I enjoy crested geckos much more than leopard geckos, mostly because they can be fed the powdered diet more often than needing live insects all the time. And thanks for mentioning my home state Adam! I’m from Phoenix, Arizona and I have one crested gecko named Spyro. Right now he’s at my parents house because I have to get an emotional support animal letter from my psychiatrist that allows me to take him to my apartment because my apartment sadly has a no pets policy.
I've got both. 2 cresties and 1 leo. I got my leo first then a crestie and then i got another crestie from a breeder and it had no tail but its still cute. My leo is in a 40gal and my cresties are in 20gal tall hexagon tank each.
The Gargoyle gecko is almost the same as the Crested but grows back its tail and does not drop it as easy.
Could you do a video about the Rankins dragon? A bearded dragon in a small package. I've got 2 of them as my first lizards (I do have 28 years of experience with pond sliders) and they are super cute. Its like having a mini Diamond. :)
got a yellow uro bout 3 weeks ago, concerned wont eat wont bask, puffs up when tryig to tame her. did i get just a really distressed homesick wild caught?lol afraid shes not gona do well if she keeps refusing to eat or bask
It’d be a good idea to get them checked out at an exotic vet ASAP. Where’d you get them from?
@@nightinggale6470 from my Local pet store. They ordered it for me. Couldnt be because of the weather could it? It is cold. i have heard of them not eating and sleeping during all winter
@@gamervet7793 many reptiles do brumate during the winter, not sure about uros. Can you ask the store where they ordered the uro from?
I got two extreme harlequin crested geckos for free recently along with their cages and they’re awesome. Super skittish at first though. I’m happy I have my gargoyle as well but even now she’s been hiding more too. Either way they’re all awesome and I can’t wait to complete my New Caledonia collection
I have two cested and a garg, love all three of them. I've been pushing for leopards but the Mrs. isn't a fan of the insectivore diet though she loves the look of them.
For new years I actually got a leopard gecko, his name is Chomper because when I was feeding him he bit my finger
Can we do a top 5 best animals for cohabitation?
Please give information on how to order a gecko from you.
My daughter and I are starting to get into reptiles and I think this would be a great pet. Thank you sir.
I've had 3 leos and they're all completely different personalities lol. It completely shifts how you look at reptiles. My most recent, Mondo, has been the most work with a couple impactions just removed by the vet, but otherwise they've been wonderful pets and companions.
You mentioned that you sell crested geckos, do you have a link? I found your store, but I think it's just merch 🤔
I’d love to know how you keep your plants alive and looking really healthy. I am no good with plants at all. I have 12 bioactive set ups and I’ve probably spent hundreds on plants as they keep dying
What tank do you use for your crested gecko. Or best artificial tank
i have a leopard gecko named tostito and i intend to get another leopard gecko! for me, its the cuteness factor and the fact i can pull my little guy out of his tank to let him crawl on me while im doodling or editting videos. something about those eyelids and long smile is to die for. crested geckos certainly have their own cuteness about them but imo doesnt compare to a leopard gecko!
Heycim from niagara falls as well i got my self a few snakes now im really loving the hobby i just got a crested gecko as well. I met you the expo back in november i believe in sauga. Im wondering if you have time to talk reptiles and for me to possibly learn from someone experienced or if you could point me the right way. Please message me if you happen to see this i love your channel cheers
I got a crested gecko because I wanted a arboreal species that will enjoy the plants that I put in the enclosure. Best choice ever😊
That is awesome!
They are both just so cute and so docile I have 4 Leopard geckos and 4 crested geckos and they are all just totally amazing along with all my other animals.
I have a Leopard Gecko that actually jumps and she also likes to climb almost vertical.
I don't have either yet but I think I want a leopard gecko a bit more, they're adorable and sometimes misting setups can be difficult to setup and maintain, but also I feel like if you look at some cresties the wrong way they drop their tails xD (obviously this depends a lot on how they're handled and acclimated to people but still, haha)
Al’s right I also gotta say “ where are they giving them away for free?” I would literally take them all. Here in the states I have never come around a free reptile except my wild rescues. I paid $40 for my crested when it was on sale but they run about $60 here in the states. Price is about the same with leopards
I did get my female first because they said she was male then after reaching and learning the difference on my own. A month later got a male. Both from pet supplies plus. Why was that a bad idea? They are kept together in a 20g long. Mostly ignore each other. About the same size around the same age. Female eat way more. I leave crickets to be hunted and feed mealworm 2x a week. Only the female comes out to eat them. I feel the male is loosing weight but don't know. I've owned tarantulas with no problems. I got a ball python I've had for 7 years from a baby. I've had the leopard Geckos 6 and 5 months. Can you please link me to the videos that can help with feeding and although to late why was big box pet store a bad idea. For me my only option?
Mom and I are team Leopard Gecko all the way. They are easier to find in their enclosure. They like to sit with us and visit. They don't get frog butt when they lose their tails. We live in Kamloops BC, where it is way harder to keep the air humid. Mom bought her Alice at an Expo as a normal. Turned out she was a Giant. My Fiest is a Mack Snow. Love them both.
I just got a fat tailed gecko im having trouble with the humidity because im in ireland i think any tips to keep it in a stable range
Use a deep layer of soil substrate. Pour water directly into the substrate, just make sure it isn’t too wet on top. Use a digital hygrometer to measure humidity. If the enclosure has a mesh lid, cover most of it with foil tape.
@@nightinggale6470 thank you
I watched more to see if it swayed me more or less to wanting to add a crested gecko to my collection. Do think once I've that little extra time I will be doing so.
I absolutely love my leopard gecko though. Only one of my reptiles that has 'bit' me, but that was when she first came home, so my own fault as she was just defending herself against this strange being she didn't really know. Completely different now. Bar the scratches I got on my forehead a few weeks back when my head seemed to disappear as she was exploring up there, she's my sweet princess Indi now 😊
My leo bounces back and forth from super sociable to completely ignoring me. He usually doesn’t want to be touched or handles unless I spend at least an hour messing around in his cage and keeping my hand by him a day. Cool lil dude though.
Leos will always be my fav!
Great video!
Where can i find what you have available for sale?
Adam: You can see the crickets move around actually…
Me: HoW bIg Of CrIkEtS dO YoUr AnImAls EaT??!? XD
Awesome video totally agree
Idk about his crested gecko but the ease of handling with mine depends on when I handle him. Since he’s nocturnal if I handle him at night he is way more hyperactive and will jump off my hand into my face and just jump a lot more often in general. Even tho you can predict when and where he’s gonna jump and he’s not very fast once he lands it’s still a bit much for some people. However, if I hold me during the day he rests more in my hand and may jump occasionally to my other hand but not near as much.
My leopard gecko is only a juvenile so I can’t speak for him much yet but he seems pretty chill he sometimes runs up my shirt and on to the back of my neck and it’s hard to grab him lol but both are extremely fun and cute lizards.
I want a bearded dragon next. This channel has increased my love for lizards. I still can’t bring myself to like snakes that’s just not my cup of tea but I definitely love lizards
sounds right
@@WickensWickedReptiles Do the crested geckos tend to calm down as they get older? Mine is under a year old he’s probably about 6 months old right now. And thanks for the reply!
I plan to have both I got a leopard gecko not to long ago little baby named him sir Archibald pinwall and I love watching him eat and hunt down cricket’s it’s been awesome
I have a crested gecko called borys and I love him so much.
I'd like to get a couple of cresties. I was told that if I get 2 babies then they should be able to cohabitate?
sure but make sure they are female for sure to start
the one time my crestie bit me it was like being pecked by a duckling, a little "what was that?"
when i was deciding cresties won because of the heat and humidity requirements and diet. have two now and no regrets :)