I guess our forefathers must have had extraordinary shooting skills. They had big, heavy, single shot guns and were able to explore and settle the frontier.
The Rossi manual says that slugs should not be used, with a big warning. I like that the rear sight is included in the rail. Looks interesting. I'll probably order one.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus .45 Colt is 14,000 psi max SAAMI rating. +p is around 15,000 psi. 25,000 psi is the range of so-called "Ruger-only" loads. .410 Bore runs 13,500 psi max SAAMI rating with 3.00" shotshells. Less pressure with 2.50" shells.
I am sure I am not the only one asking for an affordable single shot. Thompson Center was selling quit nicely (and at much higher prices) until S&W killed them.
When I was a boy, my dad always shot a 20 gauge shotgun (Browning Auto 5), and when we got out in the field, and would run into his buddies or other hunters, they were almost always carrying 12 gauge shotguns. When I asked him why he didn’t shoot a 12 gauge, he said that hunting was a sport/pastime for Sportsmen, and he’d considered going to a.410 - both giving the same range as a 12 gauge, but less projectiles per shot. It was a personal preference and mindset I guess. Then, when I was about 14, some magpies were in my neighbors back pasture, and my friend ran to his bedroom and came out with an old bolt action.410. I followed him outside, and as we snuck up on the birds, when they flew, at about 60 yds away, he fired and smoked the magpie, to my surprise, and it was then that I remembered what my Dad had told me about - it opened my eyes. It would be interesting, to see how this gun does, with some optics off a rest with.45 ammo.
I have a Thompson Encore with the .45/.410 barrel. Mine has the screw in straight fluted choke for shooting shot. This Rossi may be lighter, but I'm sure it won't pattern down range like my Thompson. But, at a quarter of the cost, it may be worth a try. .410 can really be destructive at close range....
I think that would be the perfect firearm to carry on a tractor for snakes. I have a rossi tuffy and the barrel is to long to use on a tractor. I already ordered one.
I loaded black powder .45 Colt, and have shot it out of my Ruger Redhawk, Bond Arms .410/45, and Thompson Encore .410/.45. I used a .454 round ball on top of a lubed wad, over something like 40 grains of Pyrodex. This thing would handle that no problem.
j recently bought a rossi brawler 410/ 45colt i like it .while waiting for my new 45colt brass to get here I'm shooting 45acp in it. i.went to harbor freight and bought a 225 peice box of nitrile metric o- rings. using sizes 8x2mm and 8.8x1.9 o rings put over bullets to back of case. when shutting action it will be a little tighter. shoots good and ejected live rounds and emptys great. but WARNING 45acp can go to 18,000 to 20,000 psi.standard 45colt 14.000psi maximum. i don't know any ammunition manufacturers who print chamber pressures. i don't recommend using factory 45acp .but as a reloader of 44years i will for now use data from Hornaday reload data center that gives bullet weights, speed, chamber pressures. my next try out load will be 200gr xtp, Longshot powder 7.0 gr, 918 fps 13,600 cup- copper units. Pressure.which is safe in any 45acp brass shooting in the 45colt brawler .be safe and use good judgment about what you shoot.and absolutely no 45colt +p it might kill you. papa wishing you well .
I feel like they should do a 300 blk version with a threaded barrel. 30-30 ballistics in such a small package would be great. That or an ultra quiet suppressor host. Add a brace/stock and a fantastic handy little silent plinker
Of course you could have something bigger with more rounds you just don’t get it it’s a fun range thing or around the farm or ranch maybe it’s just not for you
Everyone is acting like this is a new gun. It's an updated version of their Matched Pair Pistol set that was released several years ago with a Pic rail and ejector instead of an extractor. The downside is there's no additional 22lr barrel.
If you want a small .410 snake gun for walking around the farm or whatever, you can get a Bond Arms derringer rather cheap(not sure how much this thing costs) that holds 2 shots and is much smaller. I guess if you wanna do small game hunting with a long barrel pistol this fills that role? Seems very niche but good for people in that niche I guess.
Exactly. Hunting and pest control same as the dearly departed TC Contender. .45LC in a 9" barrel is adequate for any big game in the lower 48. Will also handle rats, snakes etc. at close range with .410 possibly even small game at close range. For longer range shotgun hunting they would need to offer one with a straight rifled choke tube. Not a first choice but in a pinch .410 buckshot would discourage a two legged predator. That is a fair amount of utility for under $250.
You mention it will probably be used at 25 feet or less. I don't see this gun in that role of a defensive pistol. It's a single shot with a 9'' barrel. I see this more as a trail gun or maybe a treestand gun for snakes on the trail or small game when bow hunting (where legal) from a treestand. IMO the ability to shoot the 45 Colt cartridge is a bonus as it too is a capable round so long as it shoots well out of this pistol
@@royreali8852 If you like it, nobody is stopping you. We can like different things. I just don’t see a practical use in this and I don’t even see enough of a fun factor to spend money on a single shot firearm.
Rossi says dont use +p Ill pass.. that break action is one of if not the , strongest actions.. If rossi is using materials that cant stand 45lc +p despite being break action , then naw..... 45 long colt. When loaded right ,is more powerful than 44 mag.. this should be designed to handle it.
it said not to use +p+ it's a difference between +p and +p+. +p+ has alot more pressure than the +p loads.. l know it had WARNING for no (slugs) & no (+p+) ammo should not be used, but didn't see anyone concerning the (+p)
It might fit, but PLEASE DONT FIRE IT! This gun was NOT made to handle the pressure from a .454 Casull. The manual says in big red letters "DO NOT FIRE 454 CASULL AMMUNITION."
@@owllymannstein7113 From the little research I did, no. It's designed to handle only standard pressure 45 Colt. Standard pressure is said to be 14,000 psi. +p is 15,000 psi. If you're popping squirrels, rabbits, coyotes at closer range, things of that nature I'm sure it would be fine. Loads that exceed the +p loads and venture into the realm of .44magnum pressure should be kept to specialty firearms (Ruger Blackhawk, Ruger Redhawk, Ruger old model Vaquero, Thompson Center Contender, etc).
The sheer amount of ammunition that you could run in this thing is awesome you could run a rat shot bird shot slugs buckshot or even regular 45 Colt very versatile.
Heck yeah! Witness the cutting edge of modern firearms design! Imagine the industry leader you have to be to just *release* this marvel to the world unchecked! Incredible! The culmination of the highest tech computer designed and controlled manufacturing has reached new, unattainable altitude with this release from Rossi! Surely the main attraction of *any* trade show attended.
Nice review Andrew. I've often wondered since we have 12ga and 20ga rifled barrels, why rifled barrels haven't shown up in .410? Brass .410 casings are available in 2.5" and should allow for a nice bump in power along with improved accuracy from a rifled barrel. Thanks, bb
@@robertkeller9828 S&W Governor, Taurus Judge. But then you deal with rifled bores with fling shot patterns out of effective density in very short range. If we could have smooth bore barrels from the same, the shot pattern would be incredibly improved (take the Henry Garden Gun and .22LR shotshells for example). But then it would be an NFA item and regulated by the ATF thugs.
This would've cost 10 bux retail in it's day. I changed my mind on what I'd pay now. I'd not pay 50 bux for this nothing. BUT HEH, Rossi is owned by Taurus which is owned by Braztech which owns Heritage so i've gotten used to their simplistic gimmicks...like Single Action 22lrs that don't even have a decent shell extractor. WHY would anyone want to have to do cock and fire each time when there's SUPERIOR used DA/SA pistols like the Hi-Standard Double-nines still plentiful. These are simplistic bs that costs the manufactor, MAYBE, 10 bux to manufactor. Just buy a backpack breakdown 410 or better yet 20/12 gauge for around 125 to 150 bux and be DONE with it. STOP putting out BS Braztech1
My guess is extra cost and weight to contain the ungodly pressures. Anything that a 9" .45LC can't handle would probably be best handled with a repeater. The original BP load from a cavalry SAA could shoot the horse out from under an enemy soldier.
@@erroneous6947 It would be interesting to know the reason why they say no slugs but as a practical matter it doesn't bother me since SAMMI Colt loads are much more effective than 410 slugs.
right, l already bought 1, & that's why l bought it thinking it could handle high pressure ammo. The manual said WARNING DO NOT USE 454 CASULL or +P+ Ammo.
@@frefmcgwn I can't believe they would make something that crappy. I've seen their lever guns slugged and measured out of spec; too loose for common sized ammo so it doesn't surprise me.
Try to buy a .410 judge with a 6.5 inch barrel for $200. Hell do it for $240. I bought my brawler yesterday and it was on sale for $180. Don't knock it until you try it.
I could see Rossi manufacturing this gun in various calibers.
I guess our forefathers must have had extraordinary shooting skills. They had big, heavy, single shot guns and were able to explore and settle the frontier.
The Rossi manual says that slugs should not be used, with a big warning.
I like that the rear sight is included in the rail. Looks interesting. I'll probably order one.
It takes 45 colt slugs don't need the 410 ones
I read the manual and it said you should not shoot slugs through it and it is not + p rated. For those reasons it’s a no for me.
Why? .45LC has a higher case pressure than even magnum .410.
@@InvidiousIgnoramus .45 Colt is 14,000 psi max SAAMI rating. +p is around 15,000 psi. 25,000 psi is the range of so-called "Ruger-only" loads.
.410 Bore runs 13,500 psi max SAAMI rating with 3.00" shotshells. Less pressure with 2.50" shells.
I literally just commented the same
I wanna shoot real 45 colt. It can exceed 44 mag power. And if this can't handle that, then I don't want it.
Another answer to a question no one asked.
I am sure I am not the only one asking for an affordable single shot. Thompson Center was selling quit nicely (and at much higher prices) until S&W killed them.
When I was a boy, my dad always shot a 20 gauge shotgun (Browning Auto 5), and when we got out in the field, and would run into his buddies or other hunters, they were almost always carrying 12 gauge shotguns. When I asked him why he didn’t shoot a 12 gauge, he said that hunting was a sport/pastime for Sportsmen, and he’d considered going to a.410 - both giving the same range as a 12 gauge, but less projectiles per shot. It was a personal preference and mindset I guess. Then, when I was about 14, some magpies were in my neighbors back pasture, and my friend ran to his bedroom and came out with an old bolt action.410. I followed him outside, and as we snuck up on the birds, when they flew, at about 60 yds away, he fired and smoked the magpie, to my surprise, and it was then that I remembered what my Dad had told me about - it opened my eyes. It would be interesting, to see how this gun does, with some optics off a rest with.45 ammo.
I have a Thompson Encore with the .45/.410 barrel. Mine has the screw in straight fluted choke for shooting shot. This Rossi may be lighter, but I'm sure it won't pattern down range like my Thompson. But, at a quarter of the cost, it may be worth a try. .410 can really be destructive at close range....
A holster /bandolier would be a great match for it!
Nah….just tuck it in your belt
They make one its on their website
I think that would be the perfect firearm to carry on a tractor for snakes. I have a rossi tuffy and the barrel is to long to use on a tractor. I already ordered one.
I ASOLUTELY LOVE MINE.
Looks like the Bersa Comanche from Argentina.
Honestly, ive had 12gs and a couple 30-30's in my past that were smaller than that hand cannon sized artillery peice.
Owners manual mentions not to use slugs…???
I run .410 handloads with two .40 cal musket balls...they'd probably work well in this. I'd rather carry this in the woods than a .410 Derringer.
I loaded black powder .45 Colt, and have shot it out of my Ruger Redhawk, Bond Arms .410/45, and Thompson Encore .410/.45. I used a .454 round ball on top of a lubed wad, over something like 40 grains of Pyrodex. This thing would handle that no problem.
j recently bought a rossi brawler 410/ 45colt i like it .while waiting for my new 45colt brass to get here I'm shooting 45acp in it. i.went to harbor freight and bought a 225 peice box of nitrile metric o- rings. using sizes 8x2mm and 8.8x1.9 o rings put over bullets to back of case. when shutting action it will be a little tighter. shoots good and ejected live rounds and emptys great. but WARNING 45acp can go to 18,000 to 20,000 psi.standard 45colt 14.000psi maximum. i don't know any ammunition manufacturers who print chamber pressures. i don't recommend using factory 45acp .but as a reloader of 44years i will for now use data from Hornaday reload data center that gives bullet weights, speed, chamber pressures. my next try out load will be 200gr xtp, Longshot powder 7.0 gr, 918 fps 13,600 cup- copper units. Pressure.which is safe in any 45acp brass shooting in the 45colt brawler .be safe and use good judgment about what you shoot.and absolutely no 45colt +p it might kill you. papa wishing you well .
FREEEEDOMMMMM!!!!
Did you read the manual ? It states don’t use slugs in this pistol. Have you heard otherwise from the manufacturer
If I’m gonna carry something that big it better have more than a single shot 😂
Women have been telling me the same thing my whole life.
Agreed
I think it's supposed to be like the Thompson Contender
@@anthonyb556 no… it’s just a cheap single shot 410.
@@ryobiman yes but it also shoots 45 Long Colt let's call it the Thompson Pretender LOL
I just got one ilove it❤
FYI
Bought one and there is a WARNING in the box from manufacturer don't shoot slugs
I feel like they should do a 300 blk version with a threaded barrel. 30-30 ballistics in such a small package would be great. That or an ultra quiet suppressor host. Add a brace/stock and a fantastic handy little silent plinker
I bought mine from Rural King.
I hope Rossi comes out in .357, .44 and maybe couple rifle calibers
That would be way better.
They won't 😢
They would have to make the frame and chamber a hell of a lot stronger especially for 44 mag
So this is a modern single shot obrez. Neat.
LOL obrez...but way less power. But faster reload if you get good.
Make a double barrel. We need old school guns. Thread the barrel for suppressor. 45 colt.
We need smooth bore barrels for an actual decent shot pattern. But then it would be a SBS and NFA item. 😑
Of course you could have something bigger with more rounds you just don’t get it it’s a fun range thing or around the farm or ranch maybe it’s just not for you
Fun squirrel gun
Everyone is acting like this is a new gun. It's an updated version of their Matched Pair Pistol set that was released several years ago with a Pic rail and ejector instead of an extractor. The downside is there's no additional 22lr barrel.
If you want a small .410 snake gun for walking around the farm or whatever, you can get a Bond Arms derringer rather cheap(not sure how much this thing costs) that holds 2 shots and is much smaller. I guess if you wanna do small game hunting with a long barrel pistol this fills that role? Seems very niche but good for people in that niche I guess.
It's around $200 and I'd rather carry this.
How's the point ability? Are snap shots a reasonable opinion or still targets only?
Adorei gostaria de comprar
Where can you buy one?
A gun like that should be shot in the fresh air and sunshine.
This is pretty cool but a 1 shot is never the ultimate woods gun...
I see a new and improved thompson contender
Hunting pistol? What's this even for?
Exactly. Hunting and pest control same as the dearly departed TC Contender. .45LC in a 9" barrel is adequate for any big game in the lower 48. Will also handle rats, snakes etc. at close range with .410 possibly even small game at close range. For longer range shotgun hunting they would need to offer one with a straight rifled choke tube.
Not a first choice but in a pinch .410 buckshot would discourage a two legged predator. That is a fair amount of utility for under $250.
to play in the woods.
You mention it will probably be used at 25 feet or less. I don't see this gun in that role of a defensive pistol. It's a single shot with a 9'' barrel. I see this more as a trail gun or maybe a treestand gun for snakes on the trail or small game when bow hunting (where legal) from a treestand. IMO the ability to shoot the 45 Colt cartridge is a bonus as it too is a capable round so long as it shoots well out of this pistol
Cool
Can you use 410 magnum ?
Can u shoot 45c out the 410/22 Rossi ?
I don’t get it
In all honesty, I don’t see how this is practical at all?
What does practicality have to do with fun?
@@royreali8852 because it is marketed as a survival product.
@@royreali8852 If you like it, nobody is stopping you. We can like different things. I just don’t see a practical use in this and I don’t even see enough of a fun factor to spend money on a single shot firearm.
Great option for people hunting in the south where you constantly run into snakes
Rossi says dont use +p
Ill pass.. that break action is one of if not the , strongest actions..
If rossi is using materials that cant stand 45lc +p despite being break action , then naw.....
45 long colt. When loaded right ,is more powerful than 44 mag.. this should be designed to handle it.
it said not to use +p+ it's a difference between +p and +p+. +p+ has alot more pressure than the +p loads.. l know it had WARNING for no (slugs) & no (+p+) ammo should not be used, but didn't see anyone concerning the (+p)
I wish some gunmaker would make a 28 gauge pistol like they have with a 410.
I'm not sure it's legal. I think it becomes a "destructive device".
You are correct not legal
Taurus tried to do that. ATF said no.
@@InvidiousIgnoramusas per usual making dumb rules that make no sense
They tried. Couldn’t get atf approval.
I need this in rifle calibers
There’s a guy at work who wants me to make him a holster for his. It’s definitely a little different.
All that size and weight for one shot? That is NOT ideal for self-defense.
Weight is actually pretty low, they are very light guns.
You know, self defense isn't the only thing guns are used for
@@SwampOperator You took the words right out of my mouth.
Shoot it at 15 yards, my Super Comanche Shoots great at that range. Also not bad at 20 yards.!!!!
Anymore home flight raffle additions before next week?
Manual says not to shoot slugs out of this gun
will .454 cassul fit?
It might fit, but PLEASE DONT FIRE IT! This gun was NOT made to handle the pressure from a .454 Casull. The manual says in big red letters "DO NOT FIRE 454 CASULL AMMUNITION."
@@Asmith-1111- i wont. but i do have some 454 brass i might load to 45 lc specs.
Yeah, I'll stick with my Henry AXE,5+1,and my Ruger GP100,7shot,357mag., on my side, just me,GODBLESS
Will it handle "Ruger-only" loads of 45 Colt +P?
That's what I'm wondering. IF it shoots .45lc accurately, and IF it can handle higher pressure loads it might actually be useful.
@@owllymannstein7113 From the little research I did, no. It's designed to handle only standard pressure 45 Colt. Standard pressure is said to be 14,000 psi. +p is 15,000 psi.
If you're popping squirrels, rabbits, coyotes at closer range, things of that nature I'm sure it would be fine.
Loads that exceed the +p loads and venture into the realm of .44magnum pressure should be kept to specialty firearms (Ruger Blackhawk, Ruger Redhawk, Ruger old model Vaquero, Thompson Center Contender, etc).
That's exactly what I wondered.
And no it says dont use them.
For that reason. I dont want
@@SwampOperator Seems it would be so easy to design this thing to handle +p. Add more steel around the chamber. Done.
The sheer amount of ammunition that you could run in this thing is awesome you could run a rat shot bird shot slugs buckshot or even regular 45 Colt very versatile.
Can’t shoot slugs or +p. Manual has large warning about that.
Lol, i wouldn't waste pistol ammo out of this thing. Maybe snake shot, but why?
But can it shoot.454 casull?
No, it can't handle the pressure.
Is the barrel rifled ?
Yes.
Heck yeah! Witness the cutting edge of modern firearms design! Imagine the industry leader you have to be to just *release* this marvel to the world unchecked! Incredible! The culmination of the highest tech computer designed and controlled manufacturing has reached new, unattainable altitude with this release from Rossi! Surely the main attraction of *any* trade show attended.
I don’t get it.
Bring back the ranch hand and you will sell more, maybe 3 calibers
Типа "КУЛАЦКОГО ОБРЕЗА",только в 410-м калибре)))
Nice review Andrew. I've often wondered since we have 12ga and 20ga rifled barrels, why rifled barrels haven't shown up in .410? Brass .410 casings are available in 2.5" and should allow for a nice bump in power along with improved accuracy from a rifled barrel. Thanks, bb
... because most slugs don't need rifling? Maybe?
Do you ever watch taofledermaus?
@@camojoe83 no, haven't seen that. I'll copy/paste into a browser.
@@brianburke3836 you're welcome.
no 410 slugs as per manual
Question could this thing handle some heavy bear loads?
The gun is almost useless but the price makes it worth buying for a first time gun
this like some shit you bring into a brokie tarkov challenge raid for youtube
What do you recommend for holsters?
Before a holster, how about just buy a REAL REVOLVER and shoot shot shell?
@@robertkeller9828 For under $250? Pistol caliber shot shells will not have anywhere near the payload of the .410.
@@robertkeller9828 S&W Governor, Taurus Judge. But then you deal with rifled bores with fling shot patterns out of effective density in very short range. If we could have smooth bore barrels from the same, the shot pattern would be incredibly improved (take the Henry Garden Gun and .22LR shotshells for example). But then it would be an NFA item and regulated by the ATF thugs.
Rossi has holsters on their website. They have it on a chest rig, and you can buy the holster itself if you want to.
they just need to make a 12 gauge pistol
Don't shoot Slugs !!!
Its called desi Katta.
Cheapest gun you can buy in India 50$.
Typical rossi ejector broken on a brand new gun
POS. Patterns crappy. Get a Contender 45/410.
Waste of money……..The judge shoots the same calibers and has more capacity and much smaller.
The POORS are going to eat this up
This would've cost 10 bux retail in it's day. I changed my mind on what I'd pay now. I'd not pay 50 bux for this nothing. BUT HEH, Rossi is owned by Taurus which is owned by Braztech which owns Heritage so i've gotten used to their simplistic gimmicks...like Single Action 22lrs that don't even have a decent shell extractor. WHY would anyone want to have to do cock and fire each time when there's SUPERIOR used DA/SA pistols like the Hi-Standard Double-nines still plentiful.
These are simplistic bs that costs the manufactor, MAYBE, 10 bux to manufactor. Just buy a backpack breakdown 410 or better yet 20/12 gauge for around 125 to 150 bux and be DONE with it. STOP putting out BS Braztech1
Why didn't they make it accept .454
My guess is extra cost and weight to contain the ungodly pressures. Anything that a 9" .45LC can't handle would probably be best handled with a repeater. The original BP load from a cavalry SAA could shoot the horse out from under an enemy soldier.
This thing can’t even handle slugs or +p. So I’m guessing they were interested in making it a cheaply as possible.
@@erroneous6947 It would be interesting to know the reason why they say no slugs but as a practical matter it doesn't bother me since SAMMI Colt loads are much more effective than 410 slugs.
right, l already bought 1, & that's why l bought it thinking it could handle high pressure ammo. The manual said WARNING DO NOT USE 454 CASULL or +P+ Ammo.
@@frefmcgwn I can't believe they would make something that crappy. I've seen their lever guns slugged and measured out of spec; too loose for common sized ammo so it doesn't surprise me.
WHY BUY THAT WHEN YOU CAN GET A .410 REVOLVER?
l have the judge
Try to buy a .410 judge with a 6.5 inch barrel for $200. Hell do it for $240. I bought my brawler yesterday and it was on sale for $180. Don't knock it until you try it.