Rob Zombie's Halloween (2007) - Movie Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Evil never dies! Knee-deep in the remake craze of the 2000's, we got Rob Zombie's wildly different version of Halloween. Diving into the backstory and psychology of Michael Myers, this remake took the approach of exploring the origins of evil. Did Rob Zombie's Halloween deliver a fresh new take that defined a new generation of Halloween or did he skull-fuck a classic?
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I really felt for Danny trejos character in this he cared for Michael
Yeah that was sad
Only character in the movie who had any redeeming value, only death that made me feel bad
"I was good 2 u Mikie!"
I like the Directors Cut where Danny Trejo's character lived.
@@MrBoyYankee I have the directors cut and he didn't live in that.
At least Zombie got the mask spot on.
True
I concur
MegaSting1981 Not only the mask but Michael as a adult. Mikey looks really badass in this movie i really like the dark brown overalls.
With emphasis on "least".
John Donovan no he doesn’t. He made Michael Voorhees not Michael Myers. Michael is supposed to be a normal size man who is incredibly strong
I fucking loved how big and brutal this Michael Myers was. He was huge and scary as hell ♡
This the only Halloween movie where i thought Micheal was an threat
@@drippyjayy6765 Him murdering teenagers and kids in the previous ones didn't seem threatening? Like you didn't believe he could really kill them?
Is this also the only halloween movie you seen?@@drippyjayy6765
My sentiments exactly. The first half goes full Zombie. Never go full Zombie.
But once Tyler Mane first puts on the mask (which was on point), the movie becomes more tolerable, and at some points, even enjoyable.
Lol@full Zombie
Originally Rob Zombie wanted this film to be 2 separate films. The first film would have been Michael's childhood and Smith's Grove. The second film would have been the remake.
That would have been amazing didn’t know that 😲
That would've been awful. Very few people would have returned for the sequel.
@@gd7022 lol true
@@gd7022 why?
@@gvidovaldmanis6377 Because the first half of Rob Zombie's Halloween was awful, but everything in Smith's Grove and beyond was pretty good...
But if you made a whole movie about the terrible first act, nobody would care to watch the second film.
Lets be honest when michael beat the shit outta the kid with the tree he didn’t deserve to die but i aint feel bad for him either🤷🏾♂️
Yah BoiTvar fact dude , that scene scared me so much when I was younger
homeslice1998
Haha same
That scene and the rape scene in the director’s cut were the most disturbing scenes in the movie.
Brad Douriff was pretty good as the sheriff, he wasn't in this a lot but the scenes he was in he was good
@ScottMonroe1 Danielle Harriss Annie was killed in such a violent way, it actually upset me seeing that...is that sad?
@@Ranger.TomGunna no that whole scene was filmed to tug at your heartstrings. It was fucking brutal
I found the first kill of this movie one of, if not the best opening kill in any slasher. The brutality of it really sets the stage for how intense Myers becomes. I get that some people may be made uncomfortable, but to me, the idea that you go from wanting the bully to get his comeuppance, to being like "This is too much, even for him. He's a kid" i think that's fantastic. It sells that Myers is still a villain. What he's doing isn't some righteous vengeance, it's sheer malicious hatred and violence. I think following this with the death of Trejo later was brilliant. Myers is still the villain. He doesn't have friends. He doesn't really care about anyone. Zombie, for what it's worth, kept Myers the villain he was always meant to be. He easily could have made him sympathetic, but i like that he struck a balance to still make him a monster, despite the tragedy that was his childhood.
Well said man.
Really great analysis, I absolutely love that first kill as well especially how brutal it is, but my problem is that what you said about Zombie selling Myers as the villain, I get that from the bully kill but I wish that carried on for the rest of the movie, nearly everyone else he kills you want to see die and, me at least, don’t feel any sympathy for or at least the same way I feel sympathetic for the bully. The Step dad was horrible and the sister was an ass and their kills weren’t nearly as unnerving to watch like the bullies, which just makes me sit there being like “yeah they deserved it”. And this is made even worse in the directors cut when those two disgusting redneck guards start sexually assaulting a female inmate in Micheal’s cell, which gets Micheal to get up and kill them, if he killed the victimized inmate as well that would have further proven your point but he didn’t which just made him look like a hero to me
Very well put. I hadn't thought of it that way. I, personally, detest Zombie's remakes; however, I can certainly see what you're saying.
The scene where Michael kills Joe Grisley was a definite pro of this movie. They destroyed a real bathroom stall and neither Mane nor Foree used a stunt double
That's really impressive
What I really liked was how fuckin big Michael is in this movie. Dude is a 6’9” BEAST of a man. So much scarier than any other depiction I’ve seen.
Same dude who was sabortooth in the first x-men movie.
@SylentEcho I've seen this argument a ton, and while I definitely understand the reasoning behind it, I still maintain that a hulking Myers is indeed more scary than a normal size Myers. Just put yourself in this position: a crazy serial killer is breaking into your house. What would scare/intimidate you more: a crazy serial killer that is 5'10 or a crazy serial killer who is 6'9? You'd probably hope that the intruder was 5'10 because at least then you stand a chance of fighting him off one on one. We even saw a teenage girl hold her own against him (Laurie at the end of the first movie) for a good bit. With a 6'9 beast, you literally have no chance of fighting that dude off at all unless you're also 6'9. I just think the physicality of giant Myers, regardless if it's cliche or not, would absolutely scare the average person more if they were in the position of having to go one on one with him. A 6'9 dude can overpower basically anyone they want at any time, and that, to me, just adds another layer of scariness and intimidation. Like I said, I definitely do understand your point, I just disagree.
@SylentEcho how about a 5'10 with the strength of five men vs a 6'9 mountain with the strength of _ten_ men??! How would you feel about going up against either of those, and which one would frighten you more in this pointless hypothetical I have created here? It's gotta be the giant, man lol. Take any supernatural element out of the whole situation and I still think the big guy is gonna be way more intimidating. I mean, I'd rather face a smaller NFL cornerback (still stronger than an average man, as most NFL cornerbacks probably are, despite being some of the smaller players on a team) over a dang giant hog of a defensive lineman any day lol. Like I said, this is a totally pointless hypothetical, but still a fun conversation nonetheless lol.
@SylentEcho OK, but get this: a 6'9 with the strength of TWENTY men?!? Man that's scary right there!
For the record and to be fair, though, I personally find the MM from Halloween Kills to be the scariest all in all with everything considered. He was competely ruthless in that one. Michael really just loved to fuck shit up in HK.
@SylentEcho my problem with that storyline is that they introduced him only just in the last movie. His arc takes place over far too short of a period for it to really make sense and work for me. They should have at least introduced the character in HK, and that way I think a lot more people would actually be on board with his story as well.
I'm not totally sure, but I think I'd rather they just continue with another re-imagining of Michael in another movie or string of movies, which is what I think will eventually happen since this trilogy wrapped up and the rights to the story will be in the hands of a different studio at some point, also without any involvement from Jamie lee Curtis. I could definitely see them continuing the story with Corey and Allison becoming the new respective "Michael and Laurie" figures if the movies stay in the hands of the current owners, but I'm pretty sure some other studio will buy it and wind up just doing their own new Michael trilogy. I'm not really sure which direction _that_ could go, but I definitely don't think we've seen the last of the "original" Michael (i.e. not someone else wearing the mask). Maybe some Frankenstein-esque fanatic mad doctor finds the ground-up remains of Michael and stitch him all back together like some sort of Frankenstein's monster Michael Myers or something like that lol. That would at least be a new take on Michael Myers, plus it would pretty much officially make him immortal and pave the way for numerous new Halloween movies featuring Michael.
I do think it would be cool to go in the direction with corey being the new Shape, I just don't think it will happen. Plus Corey would need to go through some other sort of further transformation into making him actually scary, because as he is now, even when he's got the mask and knife, he isn't scary in the slightest. We need to see him become a real monster before that would work effectively, imo. Also another reason they should have introduced his character earlier; we just don't know him well enough to decipher whether or not he would be a good replacement for the original Shape. Of course, they could always go with the anthology route, as originally intended as well. I think the biggest deciding factor in all of that will just be who ends up with the rights to using the characters. Seems like there are definitely some options for how they could continue the franchise, so it will certainly be interesting to see where it goes from here.
I agree The mask in this film and the way Myers acted in this film is really good in my opinion.
I can’t be the only one who laughs their ass off every single time they watch that opening scene. Unintentional comedic gold right there.
Ronnie is honestly hilarious. He's unlikeable and yet I love him.
William Forsythe’s delivery is fucking hilarious🤣
its the best part lol
Exactly. Original Myers gives no explanation of his ultimate evil. That what gives the horror a limitless evil.
I can't believe how in depth you are going with all these reviews, and in such quick succession, you are awesome!
Thank you. Alot of hard work and passion goes a long way
I will forever defend this movie... it’s so amazing. I love Rob Zombies movies.
Me too this was my introduction to Michael Myers and I loved every bit of
It is one of the best along with the first. ;)
I thought it was good too but the dialogue holds it back for me.
@@taylorpack7705 I mean I actually know people that talk like that lmao
I will defend it myself
Halloween 9: The Curse of the Shaky Cam
theboredcyborg OMG HAHAHA🤣🤣🤣🤣 You got that right! RZ’s Halloween 2 (although I LOVE that film!) should have been called Halloween 10: The Curse of the White Horse! I still love that one! This one, not so much lol
ikr lots of shaky cam in this movies
The actor who played young Michael is apparently a rapper now. One of those times when nature works its out. It felt like one of those movies with rappers
The mask was amazing
I like the intimidation factor Michael had in this one.
I actually like this movie a lot, not as good as the original, but still pretty good
Facts
BETTER than the original👌
There’s an amazing like 4 hour video of behind the scenes making of footage from this movie and it’s amazing
I know.
The scene where Michael kills the bully in the woods is my favorite scene in the movie. It’s not supposed to be a “fuck yeah” moment. He’s clearly going for a realistic and disturbing look and totally delivered. As someone so desensitized to horror films, this was the first time in years that I was truly “horrified” by one. The movie is very flawed but that scene was fantastic and I’m surprised it was in your “negatives” section.
Side note- only ever seen the directors cut. The rape scene is the most disgustingly pointless and insensitive thing ever. Almost made me turn it off
Watch the Theatrical Cut instead
@@EnchantedTooWellyup. I refuse to watch the director’s cut because of the rape scene. That was absolutely unnecessary.
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I think the backstory of Michael Myers in this film is grossly misunderstood. Sociopaths are born sociopathic, they're not conditioned. Michael's shitty childhood is actually the catalyst for why he escapes, not why he kills. Who did he kill in the film's first act? The people who were abusive toward him: the school bully, his older sister and her boyfriend, his stepfather. He left baby Laurie and his mother unscathed, because they were the only people who loved him. Loomis tells him that in a way, Michael is his best friend. Loomis may feel that way, but Michael is indifferent to him. Danny Trejo's character pleads with Michael, "Mikey, I've been good to you!" Again, Michael is indifferent. He's never escaped his childhood, a childhood where despite the hell he knew, there was still love there. Everyone else he kills in the film, he's indifferent to. His mother's dead, and his baby sister is all he has left. The scene when he kneels in front of a now grown Laurie, removes his mask and hands her the photograph, to me, is gut wrenching. In a way, he's pleading with her to help him, but not knowing and understanding who Michael is and what he wants, she rejects him, and he goes off. In the end, all Michael wanted was to return to a place where he could be with the people who loved him, where he felt safe.
All of this. Zombie made Mike a sympathetic villain.
Directors cut all the way!! Thought the scene where Annie was laying on the floor all cut up yelling "Laurie" was heartbreaking and chilling. The ending with the gun shot to Michael's face while Laurie was on top of him was incredible! The early scenes with a young sympathetic Loomis were wonderful, with him calling Michael his best friend. And OHHH that kill with the tree branch!!! YIKES!!! Intense!!
I prefer theatrical cut purely bc there’s no s*xual ass*ult scene
Liked the mask, gore, and how intimidating Michael was but didn’t like hillbilly crap
The hillbilly stuff in this movie borderline ruins it, as soon as the actual remake portion happens its amazing, but the hillbilly scenes are so out of place
I really like this movie. The cinematography is pretty good, Tyler Mane is pretty good as Myers, the mask is friggin great, Maclom McDowell isn't particularly bad as Loomis, Scout Tyler whatever her fuckin name is, the kills are gruesome and pretty good, and I actually kinda like the way that Rob Zombie had Michael raised in this horrible family then he becomes evil; it's different than just doing the same thing as the original.
The one thing I really fuckin hate is how trashy all of the characters are. Haddonfield is supposed to be this happy little quiet town rather than this trashy neighborhood where everyone is just a dick and Michael is like the least evil person in this fuckin movie. And the first act in the Myers House is just friggin unbearable.
But overall this movie is very enjoyable, it doesn't deserve all of the hate it gets, and I give Rob Zombie a lot of respect for doing something different, despite being full of problems.
Presley Kraus ur the first person I’ve met that has actually liked this movie....... THANK YOU
Alec Merritt yeah it’s rare but we exist
Thank you Someone understands 👍👍👍👍.
It was my favorite Halloween
The tyler main was a tank and it made micheal 10x scarier
You're awesome man. When you said Myers is like the 15th worst moral character in the movie I laughed my ass off.
Just watched both Rob Zombie Halloweens for the first time and I strangely really liked this one, didn't think I'd like seeing him as a kid but it ended up being the best half of the film for me.
I'm not a big remake fan, but I loved Myers' design and mask that RZ did. Loved his camera angles and grittiness style to this film. But, I hated how he gave Myers a backstory and being human! Loved the brutality that Tyler Mane gave Myers (Like Warlock and Wilbur did to the series IMO). Wish RZ did a TCM or Friday the 13th remake instead.
I think the backstory is what makes this Halloween my favorite. I honestly like the first half of this movie better than the rest of it!
Awesome man. Here's mine, I wrote it many years ago...
(Review) I was excited for the Halloween remake as I'd been a fan of the
iconic horror franchise for a long time and had seen every Halloween film
leading up to the last one, Halloween Resurrection, multiple times.
The original was a great film, and like Friday The 13th, the interest hung
in the balance of the killer. We were really caught off guard when it was
revealed that a woman was the killer all along in the first Friday The 13th,
as she was finally shown by the end to be Jason's mother!
And in Halloween, about ten minutes in, it's revealed to be a little boy,
maybe even more of a shocker. Yet his motive was unclear.
The first Halloween is a classic now as it really captures those moments of
melancholy and dread with those long, sweeping shots as the camera pans
through dark rooms and exteriors of homes, all while that notorious theme plays.
There was also a lot of mystery surrounding Michael Myers,
an unstoppable masked psychopath. Well... that's probably a more suitable description
of how he turned out in the sequels. But in the classic by John Carpenter,
there was no real explanation as to what caused Michael to turn evil at the age of six!
There was no explanation as to why Michael didn't talk, or why he was out to kill his
sister Laurie, or anyone else that got in his way. But in the remake, Zombie provides a more
in depth focus on Michael's horrid situation and how he'd come to operate,
because in the remake, the first act focuses on young Michael Myers.
He's bullied, not only by kids at school, but by his lousy stepfather. And even his sister
Judith doesn't treat him all that good. He kills and dissects rats and cats,
as Dr. Loomis says, "I hope you're not squeamish Miss Myers," while Michael's mother
views a photo of a dead animal that was found in Michael's backpack!
So Michael likes to cause harm huh? Not a good hobby. And all of this sounds
pretty simplistic, as we say to ourselves, "Sure, any kid who delves into this type of
behavior and is frequently bullied on top of it will most certainly turn out to be some
crazy maniac, right?" Wrong. What I'm getting at is that this was just a safe bet for Zombie.
There was nothing unexpected about Michael's earlier trauma. Something we would never
think could cause someone to become so twisted, just cliche hobbies of someone who
clearly wasn't sane, and right off the bat, I wasn't too impressed.
The more insight into what made Michael the mass murderer he'd become killed the
mysteriousness of the character, and it didn't any help by casting a 6 ft 9 Tyler Mane to play him.
Although a decent actor, I liked him as Ajax in Troy, he was too big for the role and
reminded me more of Leatherface, especially with that long hair that he'd been growing
out while incarcerated for fifteen years in Smith's Grove. But bottom line, we didn't need
a Michael that big. So... why is it that the average, supernatural version of Myers is
more effective than the more humanized, intimidating Myers that Zombie presents?
The second act of the film is pretty much young Michael's incarceration at Smith's grove,
where he's sent after being found guilty of killing not only his sister this time, but also
her boyfriend and his stepfather. There's a few improvised speeches between him and
Loomis that are rather nice, and Michael's escape ain't that bad either, something we never
saw in the original film. It's pretty slick and well done.
Michael's cell in Smith Grove is also pretty cool, as it features his entire collection of masks
that he'd been crafting for years on end. But I think he was plotting something all along.
I liked the casting of Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Loomis. Even his transition from a
long-haired hipster to a professional-looking psychologist sporting a new white beard
was spot on. Yes, fifteen years have indeed passed. Donald Pleasance's Loomis is more iconic,
just because it's Donald Pleasance if you know what I saying, but McDowell delivers a
convincing performance here.
Zombie also has a tendency to cast his wife Sherry in almost everything he does,
but she also does a good job here as Debra Myers, Michael's mother, really digging deep
into her role and showing off all kinds of emotions.
The third act is essentially Michael's return to Haddonfield as an adult, and this is
the part that is most reminiscent to the original. I think it might of even been shot in
the same location.
I didn't mind Scout Taylor-Compton's more spunky Laurie, and even Danielle Harris from
the earlier Halloween films makes a return as her friend. One part that really grabbed me was
when Michael returns to his old home and retrieves his molded, disfigured mask from under
rotten planks in his bedroom floor, and then he holds it up into the light, looking into the
mask's hollowed-out eyes. Just then, the Halloween theme begins. Great stuff.
There's some grittier stuff in the finale, but most leading up to it can drag at times.
There is one scene where you'll really see Michael's fury, as he rips apart a ceiling
with a board, trying to get at his sister who's been trapped above. But overall,
Halloween 2007 was a disappointment. A disappointment with a few decent moments
along the way. This wasn't as much of a fresh take on the subject as it was merely Zombie's
take on the subject. A style so vivid and twisted, yet at times so raw, that it just doesn't live up
to the original and comes across as more of a modern rehash with the same formula
when it's all said and done.
Oh... and Love does hurt, and that song hurt in Halloween too. Ouch. Sraight C.
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"We wrote the shit today and filmed it today"... This is basically the entirety of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, one of the most widely lauded film franchises in film history.
17:46 But they DID explain why he suddenly stopped talking.
It's actually Danny Trejo suggesting to younger Michael Myers that he try and "Live inside his own head. There's no walls that can hold ya there." So he stops talking and descends into himself, leaving behind the empty, violent, primitive husk of his former self.
I love this flick, but a big fat chunk of the dialogue and characters are so cringeworthy, that parts of it are painful to get through. Maybe Rob should co-write with someone, someone who can tone down some of that cringe.
I absolutely HATE the whole opening with his family. So many F bombs dropped and no likeable characters. I agree with a lot of what you said and I think we need to take away Rob's computer for writing scripts
My personal opinion of this movie? I have a huge love/hate relationship with this movie
My second favorite Halloween movie, behind the original. I’m so excited to see where the new Halloween falls in my ranking after tomorrow night! Also, the scene where Michael gets his mask back and that theme kicks in, always gives me chills. So epic! I hope the shot we see in the new Halloween trailer of Michael putting his mask back on gives me the same feeling!
It will fall much higher then Rob Zombies that's for sure.
How did you rank the 2018 Halloween. Should go see it compared to Rob Zombies two versions?
The new ones better than this
I have not seen this one all the way through. Honestly, the first act turned me off so much that I just quit. I can probably speak for most that we didn't want to see Michael Myers as a product of abuse. It was much more powerful in the original where just seemingly loving parents who raised their children in a loving home just came home to a murdering Michael. Granted, we didn't need the Thorn Cult, but that still wasn't as bad as being a product of abuse. Also, I'm a fan of horror, so cussing doesn't bother me, but it was WAY too over-the-top in this movie. It's like people don't get the concept of cussing. Cussing is supposed to convey more intense emotions so when it's just constantly used, it becomes numbing.
Yeah that 1st act is rough
Yep. Michael growing up in a seemingly nice family and still growing up to be the monster he is in the original is far creepier than what Zombie did. The fact that he randomly decided to pick up a knife, go upstairs and stab his sister to death shows there was something wrong with him to begin with because a normal kid wouldn't stab his big sister to death for the hell of it. Sometimes there's no explanation or reason for why evil people are the way they are. They just are that way and that's scarier than "He grew up in a shitty family, was bullied at school, started killing animals and eventually moved on to people."
Nurture vs Nature
it was very hard sitting through the rest of the film after the 1st act. IMPO, RZ should not have written this. I am no prude at all, but that made no sense to me all the cussing in the first ten minutes. it set the tone, and tried as i might, the first half IMPO is bad, and the second half just does an updated version of the original. I also think it went on a bit long, but I did think the second half was decent. but, it is Hitchcockian compared to his H2 IMO.
gnc623 the truth is that is beyond unrealistic loving parents or stable environments dont create psychopaths.
This movie along with the 2003 version of TCM, and the 2006 version of The Hills Have Eyes were my top 3 horror films as a kid.
Loved this remake
Thank you for doing the theatrical version instead of the god awful directors cut everyone else reviews lmao. Also glad you brought up Sheri’s acting cause I thought she was pretty under appreciated for how well she did.
Yeah i heard so many people saying that she can't act but i honestly don't understand why
@@elena__1701 she's a good actor but alot of people don't like the characters she plays
I rewatched this film for the first time in several years. It’s better than I remember; I quite liked it. One of the main reasons I liked it it because it’s one of the best portrayals of Myers in the series.
I prefer the alternate scene of Michael breaking out rather than The rape scene
I agree with you 100% Calvin!
that is so true, but i still enjoy the movie
Everyone does
I agree 100%. Sadly though the only copy of this movie I own is the unrated version.
I feel the Rob Zombie Michael Myers is more of a love child between the original Myers and Bane
Most serial killers had both innate killer instinct *and* an awful upbringing; I actually liked the nuance of portraying Michael that way.
Also, I think the doctor’s transition came when Mike killed the nurse.
But the "abused as a child" thing is such an overused trope for villain origins though.
@@Xehanort10 One Hour Photo with Robin Williams and Joker with Joaquin Phoenix do it way better
You do bring up a great point, Cody. Rob Zombie might be better if he didn't insist on writing his own script. Specially when you get to Halloween 2. That white horse storyline, still think Rob was on some very strong drugs when he wrote that. And this one, I don't mind swearing, but my gawd, it was like Rob used George Carlin's List on repeat while writing it. And with how unlikable the other characters was, Danny Trejo being the only exception, seems Rob wrote Michael Myers as the baby face killing the heels. Yeah, bit of wrestling lingo there. 😉 Anyways, thank you, Cody.
I tend to separate them from the others and it makes me enjoy them more. I can see the flaws but at the same time I always enjoy it. It’s much darker, more brutal, etc.
When I want to have a good time I watch 1-8 and when I want to have a more darker tone I go towards RZ.
I actually like the first half of the movie quite a bit. It's cool to see Michel as a kid and even though I do think Zombie shouldn't have humanized him with the shitty stepdad and all that
Same, obviously I still prefer not knowing why Michael his killing but I still don’t mind it in the remake because it makes it different to the original but I will agree could have done without the step dad and all the fucks in the first like 10 minutes.
@@jamieward3260 Yeah the fucks and sexual innuendo probably turned off a lot of people. Especially people with kids or something. I think he was just trying to push the limit with being edgy. Dude wants his movies to be dark as possible 😂. It works sometimes but not always
I’ve always loved the Halloween movies. Michael Myers is my favorite slasher. This version of it I feel was done great! I loved the story line how it shows the beginning of Michael’s evil consume him. I love the Rob Zombie touch to it!! And the cast was very well done. Love it!!
"I'm all broken up here bitch!"
Reboot myers is STRONGER than original myers but original myers is more durable than reboot myers
And reboot Myers is a foot taller than og Myers 😂😂
Do a review on house of 1000 corpse and devil rejects
Personally, I find it more enjoyable than any of the Myers driven sequels to the original, but I agree that the dialogue detracts from the enjoyment. Although, I do feel like Zombie's dialogue here had SOME (but not many) moments of brilliance. For example, the exchanges between Brackett and Loomis are so great and so memorable here that I could recite them in my sleep and while McDowell and Dourif certanly elevate the material, I feel like the part of the material they got is great and didn't purely rely on their delivery (like the part of Joe Grizzly relied on Ken Foree's delivery). I also feel like McDowell's Loomis feels more like a psychiatrist than Pleasence's did but that being said, I think no one could top Pleasence as Loomis.
I agree with you that the brutality of this movie is great and I would add that there's something New French Extremity-esque about it (reminds me of High Tension for an example in how both uncomfortable and well shot it can get).
I would probably say that the workprint version of the movie is the best when it comes to flow (and some scenes are better executed, for an example scene where mr. Strode gets killed, he sees Michael and thinks he is a trick-or-treater as Michael is walking towards him) but I haven't seem that one since I was very young (Serbian piracy laws weren't that great at the time so a TV channel showed it the year it came out) and it seems like it has been lost to the tides of time since then.
Still, I'm glad you can find enjoyment in it (which is more than most people can do) and that you enjoy the cinematography and the direction of this movie, things that most people overlook when talking about it.
I honestly feel drained after the first minute of the film. By the time Micheal screams:
"I'm not listening, *URGHHH!"* I feel like turning it off.
I love this movie very much and Tyler is just perfection
I do like the mask in this movie. But it's too brutal for me to enjoy. I'll never forget the scene where he beats the kid with a baseball bat. That hurt to watch and is one of many reasons I wish brain bleach was a thing lol. Just not a me-movie.
I liked the idea of giving Michael Myers a back story: Something other than he's just this evil supernatural force. A sort of "All monsters are human" (American Horror Story) approach. But yes, the scene Zombie gives us here is squirm inducing, and agree with what you say about giving "Loomis" something new to say in act 3.
"Variety is the spice of death" I love it.
Quick question:
Why does his mouth spit out blood while he is being shoved underwater by Michael?
@Nic Carey oh gotcha. Its just hard to see what's going on with all the shaky cam😅
He bit his tongue
“Harness good, block bad.” -Happy Gilmore 😂😂😂
As much as I thought this movie was really meh, at least RZ is keeping these classic horror actors working. Even if it's just a minor role it's still great seeing them on screen
I tried watching this years ago, but turned it off after about 30 mins, couldn’t take the early nonsense. Maybe I’ll try again at some point for the 3rd act
My biggest praise for this movie is Tyler Maine, and I have always liked Nick Castles performance the best, but he gives Nick a run for his money plus #2 if you listen to the commentary the brutal hospital parking lot scene with the guard shack it was actually a strong structure and he broke it down he's a beast!!!
That scene is in Halloween 2 I didn't clarify that very well.
So how micheal became the shape in the remake from him slowly not talking, I think that it was a result of him trying to live inside his head. When the janitor talked him about living inside his head I kind of felt like, he tried to do that and he just got lost and all the heck and pain he had was unleashed but that’s just my interpretation
I honestly prefer this one to the original but that's just me
I've never understood the dislike for this movie its very underrated and personally blows my mind as to why a lot of people have such a problem with it. You get Michael Myers more fleshed out, Zombie's gritty direction, good performances, entertaining dialogue, satisfying kills and probably features his best looking mask!
This is my favourite in the series. I think as far as remakes this is one of the best there is ( especially when compared with most other remakes) and thought it was a big surprise when considering the bad reputation left behind from a lot of other remakes. Also judging by the comments, over time perhaps its gotten more respect and it definitely deserves it!
Gunfiya
"Tyler Mane Is a Disgusting Giant! He Should Never Have Been The Shape"
"Michael Myers Is Not a 7 Feet Tall Abomination"
"This Movie sucks Because Brad Dourif Is Playing a Good Guy"
"This Movie Sucks Because Of The Bloody Death Scenes! But Halloween 4 and 6 Get a Free Pass With The Bloody Death Scenes"
"This Movie Sucks Because Of The Nudity But The Other Movies In The Franchise Get a Free Pass When It Comes To Nudity"
Giving him a cliche bad childhood isn't fleshing him out. Plenty of villains have had the "They were abused as a child and bullied at school" backstory. It's beyond tired now.
When are you going to learn John that just because you like Zombie's films that doesn't mean everyone has to? Brad Dourif as Sheriff Brackett is one of the only good parts of Zombie's series. Halloween 4 and 6 had blood and gore but they didn't have it for the sake of it like Zombie does.
Xehanort10 2 Questions For You?
1-) Why do you hate tall people so much? Did a 6 feet tall kid humiliated you on the school? Do you lost your girlfriend to a tall guy? they dind't let you play basketball because you're too short?
2-) Why do you hate Tyler Mane so much? Why Tyler did to you? Did Tyler call you a fucking dwarf?
Xehanort10 And why are you here again? Once again you're doing the same fucking thing that you did before, its the third time that you do this now, disrespecting cody's opinion, you did this on WWAM, on Drumdums and now on Cody Leach.
I don't like the unrated cut, particularly the escape scene. I love the theatrical cut because The escape scene is so much better.
I think the hardest kill for me to watch is Judith's boyfriend. Just makes me shiveeeeerrrr.
And yessssssss, you summed up the third act perfectly. Cliffsnotes version of the original.
I will always have love for this specific Halloween movie because it was my first Halloween and kicked off everything for me.
To sum up the first act from Decker Shado’s review “It’s like everyone woke up in the morning like I’m gonna be the biggest asshole I can be.” 😂
I instantly loved this movie when I originally saw it. But I do tend to like most of rob zombies movies and his style of movie making. And honestly, you can love em or hate em, but there is no chance you can tell me that both of zombies Halloween’s weren’t the absolute most original and unique takes on this franchise ever. I mean shit yeah not everything he did worked well, and he actually took the scariness out of Myers, but he added this raw real ness to it that I think is perfect for this remake. While he isn’t as scary and mysterious as he was in the originals, he is much more brutal and filthy. And bottom line, in a 4 decade long franchise, not one Halloween movie aside from the original was ever even remotely close to as unique and different as these were. I respect zombie for that, and like I said I really did love this movie when I saw it in the theater in 2007, it brought a whole new side of Myers to the big screen that, whether you hate the dialogue or not, made the remake actually feel warranted.. Halloween 2 I watched maybe once, but seeing all the love it’s getting from some of u reviewers that hate the first one lately it’s making me want to go back and rewatch it, especially considering I did enjoy the first one also
Despite the many flaws of this film and there are several to me.... I really liked this film and have had numerous arguments with people about it.... Rob Zombie is hit or miss for me, the films he has done some I like, some i do not and 1 I adore (Devil's Reject's). I give him credit to make his film his version and did not do a shot for shot remake. The films is how own, and he goes into his (Myers) backstory much more then John Carpenter did that I appreciated.. I just wish it was about 10 to 15 minutes less of it. Overall this remains a 7 out of 10 film which I liked but flaws and all.
25:15 thats what most people cite as a positive, how caring loomis seemed for meyers
Can you review pumpkinhead next?
The films main problem is it’s a Halloween film. If it didn’t have the Halloween name on it, it wouldn’t near anywhere the hate it gets. It would only be hated as much of all his other films.
I agree if it was a different Horror movie with the same "killer who was abused as a child" plotline, it still would've been decent not great but decent
Personally my favourite Halloween. I loved every aspect of it ., I watch it like at least once a year same with the Texas chainsaw with Jessica bell and the beginning . Way better than the originals
I love the cinematographic in Rob Zombie movies, when it comes to cinematographic. Rob Zombie os really good.
To be honest I don't mind that dialogue in the beginning. That is my kind of style.
His 2009 one is wayy better I think
It’s crazy how this movie gets so much hate I love this movie and the sequel, Rob zombie turned this movie into his own and didn’t try to copy & paste the original Halloween..
But at the end of the day he ruined Michael Myers the pure epitome of evil, by turning him into an abused and bullied victim. I'm all for remakes doing things different but when you remake Halloween with disgusting Rob Zombie dialogue and Anti-Hero Michael Myers i have issue with that.
Don't feel like watching or even acknowledging this one. But the second has become one of my favorites. I revisited it for the first time in years thanks to you, Drumdums, and sinistercinema.
Yeah I watched this with my Dad as well in theatres & that opening scene was bloody uncomfortable to watch together. I said “C’mon, let’s go watch The Heartbreak Kid instead” 😂 & I ended up going back on another day to watch Zombie’s Halloween. Definitely not the worst of the series though I like it more than 6, H20 & Resurrection.
Very uncomfortable
I thought the introduction of William Forsyths character was funny.
Devin Harbert Same 😂 when he said Michelle Ma Belle (beatles song) I died
Ngl that part made me laugh haha and when Ken Foree’s character introduced himself as “Joe Grizzly bitch” I thought that was pretty funny too
As a little kid this movie scared the fuck outta me lol, so gorey! The scene where he beats the bully to death has scared me for so long 😂
I enjoyed the concept of seeing what drove michael to go evil as a kid evn though i hated that family, they were just terrible. The best part of the movie is where it picks up looking like the origional with some changes. I didn't mind this ending.
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if i hear anybody in the comment section bash mine or Cody's opinion on Rob Zombie's Halloween Remakes you will all be blocked or terminated for cyberbullying and violating the guidelines. People have the right to not like Rob Zombie's Halloween Remakes. If you like this movie i respect your opinion but you have to respect other people's opinions. Getting angry and upset over people not liking this movie is very childish
Came home from work and popped this in my xbox, I really enjoy this movie even though it does so many things wrong.
I still can't believe we are getting a new Halloween film tomorrow!
Idk i thought this was the best modern halloween by far i didnt know anyone disagreed i was more then pleased with rob zombie halloween (in 2007)
On friday night I started to watch the (1978) "Halloween" and I'm already a fan of this franchise. And (78) Michael is one of my favorites because he so creepy, stealthy, quick and (2007) Michael is my second favorite Michael because of how big, bulky, intimidating, and how strong he is.
Cody i couldnt agree more about RZ being frustrating...love the opening. Review was spot on bro!
Once again, great review I'm enjoying the fuck out of this Halloween series of yours👏🏼 I think it's also great that you progressively look more frustrated in each intro than the last 😂 Thanks again Cody!
I definitely don’t care for the movie after watching it a few times over the years .
I would strongly recommend people to watch the Cole edit version of those movies (available on RUclips). He condenses brilliantly the first movie by even changing the music (borrowing from the original and the 2018 score) in some places adding a great vibe to some scenes, and he manages to keep whatever was good in the 2 instalment (just a few minutes). If that would've been the movie Zombie had put out it would have reach number 4 on my list of favourite Halloween movies. Also, it bothers me, that Rob was apparently not aware that it is illegal for a news network to release the name of a minor live on television.
I didn't make it past the first scene of this movie. It was traumatizing on a level that a horror movie shouldn't traumatize me. I came for the Cliff Notes lmao. Glad I'm not alone here (and can confirm that step-dads like that exist and they talk about their stepdaughter like that).
I love this film there's so many remakes that rubbish but he had balls to remake one greatest horrors all time love how he made it gritty there only one thing don't like in this film is the malcolm mcdowell version of doctor Loomis love fact as well rob zombie is devided u iva love or hate him it seems it's not as good as Origanal Halloween but for me it's got be 2nd or 3rd best Halloween film in ranking
I'm not going to lie... your review encapsulated the exact way I feel about this movie.
The rape scene is enough for me to hate this movie ...that's just trash
It lasted so long that's why I can't re-watch it now
Made me want to throw up.
This was the first Halloween I got to watch all the way through and made it my favorite of the series!!
Pretty much with you on this. I didn't mind the idea of spending more time with young Myers, ESPECIALLY the concept of seeing more of his interactions with Loomis at Smith's Grove. I just wish it was executed better. Even with the flaws I still don't understand the degree of hate though. People rank the RZ movies dead last quite often for the portrayal Myers in a franchise where we already have a crying, niece-raping, supernatural cult puppet version of him. Fuck I hate that bullshit story-line.
Other than the original this is by far the best 'Halloween' movie! I actually loved the 1st 30 mins and I really love 'Zombie's' dialogue!x
Me too what the hell this guys talking about he's a rock and roller heavy metal guy and he's crying about crazy fucked up dialogue that's my favorite part of rob zombie and Tarantino's movies
@@jasonjones7451 Me 2 lol!
I’ve always enjoyed Rob Zombie’s Halloween but that first section can be hit or miss for me. One day I’ll think it’s not that bad and some days I just can’t get through it lol. Despite all that I can still say I can pop this in (the theatrical cut) and get some Halloween enjoyment out of it love Tyler Mane as Myers too. Great review Cody almost to Halloween 2018!🤘🏻
Dylan Dearth I only liked your post because of the name. Dylan’s fucking rock bro.
Haha thanks man much appreciated! It’s a pretty common name out where I’m from.
Its basically Rob Zombie walking around with a knife - The Movie.
Zombie's a pretentious egomaniac who thinks his films are deeper and more meaningful than they really are so it's surprising that he didn't play Michael himself. If he had Michael would have talked every 2 minutes, probably spouting shitty lines like "I'm gonna stick this knife in your pussy you fuckin whore" whenever Michael was killing a woman and probably flipping Loomis off before going to kill Laurie.