3 Common Myths About Starting a Coding Career in 2020.

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  • @CodingAfterThirty
    @CodingAfterThirty 4 года назад +124

    Soooooo. I have been watching your channel for a while now, and you guys talk a lot about c#.
    I have specifically only been doing React and JavaScript.
    And... I just recently got hired. And quests what? Our backend API is written with C#. So guess what I am learning now.
    Anyway, just wanted to say that first. But yes it’s possible to get your foot into the door.
    I am 39 years old and I just got hired as a junior dev.
    The question of my education did come up, and I feel that because I did not have a degree my starting pay definitely not as high as it could of been.
    But to say you won’t get a job is just not true.
    Few takeaways. You need to be self directed, be prepared to read a lot, and be prepared to test code.
    Also, believe it or not, there is plenty of busy work that a junior dev would be perfect for.
    Part of me getting hired was to make sure that the senior and mid level devs are not wasting times on low level tasks that are perfect for junior dev.
    So true about smaller companies.
    Anyway great video.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +6

      Thanks. I'm glad to hear that you broke in. Awesome work!

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +11

      I’m going to pin your comment. Thanks for sharing your story.

    • @CodingAfterThirty
      @CodingAfterThirty 4 года назад +6

      Coder Foundry thanks guys. Even though I started out studying React and JavaScript I always got a lot of great tips from your channel.
      Especially, the advice to build a bug tracker app for my portfolio. Since all I do now is find and fix bugs.
      Lol. And now I decided to learn C#. Not only because it is now a requirement at my new job, but also it will add more value on top of my JavaScript and React knowledge.
      I am big fan of self study, but I spent a lot of time making mistakes. So if someone is able to afford paying for education or a coding bootcamp, I highly recommend it.

    • @professionalcheekclapper7608
      @professionalcheekclapper7608 3 года назад +1

      What did tools do you recommend to start learning code? I want to start learning app languages. So I can learn to build apps. Was thinking about going thru thinkful or lambda.

    • @obey_giant
      @obey_giant 2 года назад +1

      What resources or tolls did you learn JavaScript and react ?

  • @sin42170
    @sin42170 4 года назад +106

    "So 2020 is a great year"
    That didn't age well

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +23

      We meant 2021 🤔

    • @catharsis222
      @catharsis222 4 года назад +4

      A great year for many people who work very hard and watch videos and code. And who dabble in network/cloud/AI

    • @xcrewx2
      @xcrewx2 3 года назад +6

      A very good year for tech though

    • @nishpatha5847
      @nishpatha5847 3 года назад +1

      @@xcrewx2 yes

    • @liselotte6384
      @liselotte6384 2 года назад

      "...and it's also the beginning of a great decade."
      Oh f**k.

  • @christianjamesguevarra6257
    @christianjamesguevarra6257 4 года назад +45

    Gatekeeping senior/elitist devs are the cancer of programming community. Youll usually find them in their natural habitat (stackoverflow/hacker news) doing their favorite pastime: scaring away beginners invading their precious livelihood.

    • @cautarepvp2079
      @cautarepvp2079 4 года назад

      yeah hilarious, same for most jobs, i thought in progrsmming people dont hate others succeding

    • @Anony584
      @Anony584 4 года назад +8

      Trevor Belmont their aim is to keep their salaries high by causing a manufactured shortage

    • @JD-vj4go
      @JD-vj4go 4 года назад +1

      @@Anony584 if the salaries weren't high no one would want the job.

  • @JohnDoe-sz5jh
    @JohnDoe-sz5jh 4 года назад +36

    I got hired as Junior Application Developer by a national Insurance marketing agency. No degrees and no bootcamp certificates.

  • @HashimWarren
    @HashimWarren 4 года назад +78

    7:22 "senior dev 5 or 6 years down the road". Compare that timeframe to any other career. What other jobs will label you as a senior after just five years???

    • @panovalexander
      @panovalexander 4 года назад +32

      There's a notion of 10,000 hours to become an "expert". Guess what 40hr/week * 5 years gives you 10,000 hours spent on a craft. If that doesn't qualify for a "senior" label, your standards are unreasonably high for most occupations.

    • @Itsdanielpeng
      @Itsdanielpeng 4 года назад +13

      lol, 5 to 6 years? it's more like 2 to 3 years!

    • @cieltan7179
      @cieltan7179 4 года назад +13

      Not to burst your bubble but senior engineer is pretty low on the chopping block. Person can then go on to be Tech Lead -> Tech Manager -> Architect -> Senior Architect -> Principal Engineer/Principal Architect and so on and so forth up to C-level suites.
      A senior engineer is essentially an equivalent to a senior consultant at EY, Deloitte (accounting) *5-6 years* or a senior associate at a Big Law firm *5-6 years*. Those are just some examples in other industries that have the same progression.

    • @felipechaves6100
      @felipechaves6100 4 года назад +5

      ​@@cieltan7179 for me that is a falacy, I don't like how you rank architects above devs, totally different jobs... with different responsabilities and things they should master. Of course a lot of people do both in their companies, but still I don't see being an architect as a natural evolution to a developer... That is like saying a civil engineer is the next professional level for an architect... two different jobs and professions, despite having some things in common.

    • @Rajmanov
      @Rajmanov 4 года назад +4

      Felipe Chaves wrong, the appreciation from cieltan it's correct. The principal engineer is far away from a Sr dev, and the wages are even more far away.

  • @007phokus
    @007phokus 4 года назад +57

    Thanks for words of encouragement! I'm on month 2. Just learned HTML and CSS now onto JavaScript...
    Slow and steady...

    • @StayFlyJW
      @StayFlyJW 4 года назад +13

      007phokus remember to build a great foundation on css and the basics of design. Good luck!

    • @thetowerfantasymusic
      @thetowerfantasymusic 4 года назад +1

      Me too

    • @lacarpetaraiz
      @lacarpetaraiz 3 года назад +3

      Remember to learn Git and create an account on GitHub or Gitlab. It would help you a lot believe me.

    • @donklee3514
      @donklee3514 2 года назад +1

      Very few developers master HTML/CSS. Learn how to use bootstrap or whatever the latest library of the day is. Your time will be better spent. Don't reinvent the wheel. Most of the browser problems have already be solved. Take it from someone who went through the browser wars, build on the back of giants. I've developed multiple web apps from scratch that change CSS on the fly based on permissions. They gave me a great deal of satisfaction, but never resulted in any monetary gain or compensation. Code because you enjoy learning all the time. Expecting compensation is the path to pain. Good luck.

  • @gregap8282
    @gregap8282 2 года назад +7

    There're always gatekeepers, people trying to keep you out of the room. I remember this time in my early 20s, I was starting in photography and I met this huge photographer, he would do shoots for Coca Cola, Toyota, etc and I showed him my early pictures, I was excited and anxious to know what he thought, but his answer was very cold, he simply told me "you don't have what it takes". He really tried to discourage me, well after time passed I kept trying and I had a lot of success. I became the main photographer for some big companies and a couple of my personal pictures were featured in Vogue Italia's website. So I guess, I did had what was needed to make it. This photographer over the years, would follow my work, he would drop accidental likes on Instagram, comments trying to tell me how to edit my work differently and then, after some time a couple of congratulatory messages, to me it was funny that he was keeping an eye on me. Sometimes, gatekeepers have other motives when they try to keep you out, you just got to believe in you. Now, that I'm 30 I wanted to change my career, so I began studying coding, programming, and I'm also in college studying Software Engineering and let me tell you, it is hard and people will tell you it's hard, but F that. Keep pushing and you will be who you want to be.

  • @dynamo3059
    @dynamo3059 3 года назад +10

    got laid off from my first junior dev job 13 months ago and haven't been able to find anything since. endless rejections. so the fact that junior devs are not particularly in demand is pretty true.

    • @isaiahlowe3788
      @isaiahlowe3788 2 года назад +5

      have you been able to find a job since then?

    • @a1337turtle
      @a1337turtle 2 года назад

      update please

    • @dynamo3059
      @dynamo3059 2 года назад +1

      @@a1337turtle i found something at the 15 month mark, had to move 2300 miles away. it was a huge bait and switch for almost a year till i got moved to a different team (wasn't doing any development). finally i am developing stuff.

  • @perfectionbox
    @perfectionbox 4 года назад +7

    I've seen junior coders who make it and those who don't. A big dividing line is the junior who will listen and learn, and the one who insists on doing things his way and flailing about not realizing how much they are sinking further into technical debt.

    • @chipmunk4928
      @chipmunk4928 4 года назад

      Can you tell something more about it??

    • @perfectionbox
      @perfectionbox 4 года назад +1

      Rohit Tiwari Such as..? The details aren't that important. All I can add is that some juniors are resistant to spending extra time and effort learning how to plan their code, use loose coupling, etc.

  • @bjornarmar2462
    @bjornarmar2462 4 года назад +58

    I’ve been self-teaching for about a year now, and in the last month or so I’ve finally begun applying.
    By now, I have sent literally hundreds of applications, and I haven’t heard back from hardly anyone other than a few recruiters, let alone gotten to any actual interviews.
    Last week I seriously considered just giving up since it didn’t seem like anyone would care to look at a self-taught aspiring junior dev without a million years of experience, so I went an entire week without even touching one of my projects or sending another application.
    But between you, Stefan Mischook, and Brad Traversy, I’ve been convinced to just take it on the chin and keep moving forward. Maybe I’ll just freelance if no one wants me on their payroll...

    • @didactic02
      @didactic02 4 года назад +8

      Hang in there. I am beginning. I wish you success

    • @KineticCode
      @KineticCode 4 года назад +4

      We're in a similar position. I'm going to freelance because my area actually has no openings for a junior dev. It's gonna to the point where applying feels like a waste of time even though I have good projects and an aptitude for programming. I'll do solo dev and as soon as I release commercials projects I'll wait for companies to reach out to me rather than the other way around :P keep it up man we'll get through it

    • @MatthewRhodes
      @MatthewRhodes 4 года назад +7

      Dude, I have friends who have applied to 700+ employers. Finally got 3 interviews landed a job.

    • @lifeisgood1631
      @lifeisgood1631 4 года назад +2

      Many companies still look for education, so often if there's no education / work experience it's automatically discarded.
      The best thing you can do is work on your own cool stuff. I remember being on Upwork a couple of years ago & having no luck finding a job as a selftaught.
      Since then, I haven't wrote a single application. Companies nowadays usually reach out to me. (I have almost a decade of experience though, so I'm not as fresh in as you are)
      When you do cool stuff, make sure to put it up on github, forums etc.
      I was even approached by the Unity hiring team when I had my hobby projects on Unity Connect.

    • @lifeisgood1631
      @lifeisgood1631 4 года назад +2

      Also, it's good to focus your portfolio on 1 or 2 areas. The kinds of companies that you would want to work with (i.e. serious, reliable) don't want jack of all trades. They usually look for something more specific.

  • @LeftoverSundriesMan
    @LeftoverSundriesMan 4 года назад +22

    While I get your argument that more experienced devs have to come from somewhere (namely be trained up from junior ones), lots of businesses simply don't see it that way. So many of them are still in the .com bust era mentality that the talent pool will never run out and that they can continue asking for (at the risk of sounding cliche) mid-level or senior level work while offering entry-level pay. They would rather just spend more and more trying to poach each other's experienced employees than take on the cost and risk of training college or bootcamp graduates that are likely to leave in a year or two anyway. As depressing as the prospect is, maybe it will take the industry running itself into the ground before businesses change their ways.

    • @vulkansfire9666
      @vulkansfire9666 2 года назад +3

      Saw one yesterday asking for a masters degree in computer science, 5 plus years with a dozen different languages, and fluent in english and chinese..... salary 50k.

    • @donklee3514
      @donklee3514 2 года назад

      Your are spot on. Unfortunately, the industry has been operating like this in a state of perpetual shortages for many decades. It doesn't show any desire to address the systemic problems of maintaining its own workforce and the government's efforts with corporate welfare for the education industrial complex has been producing extremely poor results. It is instead creating student debt problem for the unemployed and unemployable. The trends that are showing promise is the great resignation, quite quitting, and for the more conservative folks, the John Gault movements all just quietly doing their thing. With a little luck the peter principle managers and bean counters they usually work for are going to be dealing with problems the old tools won't handle. we are certainly living in interesting times. Get your popcorn and enjoy the show.

  • @claraharmonson2181
    @claraharmonson2181 3 года назад +5

    Starting coding Bootcamp on Monday, I needed to hear this. Than you!

  • @quantumgirl4423
    @quantumgirl4423 3 года назад +3

    I'm right now on a .NET programming course...and this channel really lift up my spirit when it comes to the future of what I'm learning.
    Being able to live from doing something I love sounds like a dream nowadays.
    Greetings from Argentina

  • @nickrodriguez7293
    @nickrodriguez7293 4 года назад +4

    Very informative. As a former engineer I worked without an engineering degree. So being self-taught is an amazing thing. As my skills surpassed many in the industry who had an engineering degree but no hands-on experience with electronic Hardware. And of course this also applies to Software. Any trained professional must know how to troubleshoot whether it's software or electronic Hardware. This is where experience is key.

  • @bkucenski
    @bkucenski 4 года назад +7

    It depends on the business you're applying to. A well established small to medium company doesn't have the money or people resources to train junior developers. Small businesses just getting started don't have the money to hire seasoned people so they are more willing to hire people who are inexperienced but ambitious and will be able to figure things out as they go in a timely manner that does not hold the business back. Large businesses have so much grunt work to do they are always looking for low skill developers to do the work that senior developers don't want to do. They don't want to waste the time or efforts of highly skilled people doing the work a low skill employee can do.
    Someone fresh out of college with a good amount of high quality hobby work to brag about can either go for a small business to try to do everything and learn a lot, or head to a big corporation and start at the bottom.
    Your first challenge as a new developer (or any job) is to find a champion or a mentor. Someone who will bring you along wherever they go. It's not about who you know, it's about what you know and who knows it. Impress someone important and they'll keep you moving up and keep finding appropriate opportunities for you.

    • @Argonm3
      @Argonm3 4 года назад

      I totally agree small medium companies haven't got the time or resource to mentor or train a junior dev. It takes away the time from the senior which has more difficult work to do and needs to finish it. Also it's kind of doing the job with the junior he she propably needs help in completing the task which makes you think, you better could have done the job yourself and save 1,5 hour for example.
      I would recommend if they are kind of interested in you, ask them if you can come work for free for like 1 or 2 days. That way you get a better feeling with the people and them with you. It also shows your commitment. They can show you the work they do and how and what tech they use etc.
      Working for free 1 or 2 days tops, is quite common in Europe now a days.

  • @agniwebdev774
    @agniwebdev774 4 года назад +14

    Great advice. Thank you. Appreciate it. If it's one thing that pisses me off it's a gate keeper. I'm busy self teaching web development right now. I'm telling you, I'm going to become like the devil for gate keepers in the Web development industry. I will not allow people to stand in the way of me getting the coolest job in the world! 😈

  • @madifz
    @madifz 4 года назад +47

    Thanks for this video, it’s encouraging to new learners. I’m just started learning python last month and putting in the hours every day.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +4

      Keep it up Danial!

    • @OcultaManu
      @OcultaManu 4 года назад +2

      Danial Faizsal are you teaching yourself? What kind of resources have you found

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 2 года назад +1

      How's the Python journey going?

  • @lastactiongamers2619
    @lastactiongamers2619 4 года назад +7

    I find more time then not are job ads asking for junior developers with a experience level in the senior level. Basically, wanting a senior developer but not pay for it.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +2

      We've certainly seen this too. They will have a very hard time getting a senior dev for junior pay.

  • @benjibt8384
    @benjibt8384 4 года назад +16

    I started learning C# back in September 2019. Now I have landed my first internship, built up a decent portfolio, and even got my first private project! The future for programmers is looking really good.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад

      That's awesome! Congrats Benji.

    • @XistenceX1
      @XistenceX1 4 года назад

      Benji BT if I may ask, where are you geographically where they hire junior developers? Silicon Valley is too expensive for me to ever live in, so I’m looking to find a place to live grind and find.

    • @edward_t450
      @edward_t450 4 года назад

      Nice

    • @benjibt8384
      @benjibt8384 4 года назад +1

      @@XistenceX1 I'm actually not located in the US at all. I live in Sweden! As long as you learn the right techniques and develop your portfolio, everything should work out just fine for you!

    • @corajeelperrocobarde3987
      @corajeelperrocobarde3987 4 года назад

      @@benjibt8384 how many hours have you put in since September? And what's the best way to learn? I myself started learning c++ around the same time as you but I've been on and off so I haven't made as much progress as I would like.

  • @redmer89
    @redmer89 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for the encouragement, really needed it! I am looking to change my field and a big leap like this is really scary. Stay well!

  • @fart1234
    @fart1234 4 года назад +11

    Im 15 and im studying in Softuni, im not doing so well but this gave me hope.

    • @PlayRiteProductions
      @PlayRiteProductions 4 года назад +2

      Keep at it! Build as much as you can and you'll get better. You'll only get better if you stick with it though. It'll get easier. By time your 18-20, you'll be really good at it.

    • @fart1234
      @fart1234 4 года назад

      @@PlayRiteProductions These days it seems like if you dont succeed at 20, someone is literary gonna come and kill you.

    • @PlayRiteProductions
      @PlayRiteProductions 4 года назад +3

      @@fart1234 ha yeah it's a lot of pressure and really competitive nowadays. You have a lot of time tho. Just take your time, learn things the right way, and enjoy the journey. Don't make the pressure take the fun out of coding 👍

    • @fart1234
      @fart1234 4 года назад +1

      @@PlayRiteProductions thanks for the kind words

  • @gloriareyes6556
    @gloriareyes6556 4 года назад +4

    Thank you!!!! 💜 Motivated 💪🏼

  • @Fyzyx
    @Fyzyx 4 года назад +4

    Saw a job post today that required 12 years experience and was marked as "Entry Level"

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      Not all job posts are like that. Some posts are unreasonable but you can always apply anyway. Try and find a direct contact thru LinkedIn send them a note asking for a conversation.

    • @Fyzyx
      @Fyzyx 4 года назад

      @@CoderFoundry Appreciate the help :)

    • @Argonm3
      @Argonm3 4 года назад +1

      12 years... entry level that's just a joke. If you read that then don't apply at all those companies aren't serious and don't know what they are talking about.

  • @ebros2898
    @ebros2898 3 года назад +1

    It’s cool that you’re optimistic but all you have to do is look at job listings on Indeed for 5 mins to realize that no company is actually hiring junior developers. With 2 years experience required on 90% of the listings it’s clear that no company is willing to take risks with recent bachelor graduates. A bootcamp also doesn’t help very much because everyone is asking for a Bachelors degree

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  3 года назад +1

      As an example, one of our students who graduated our last cohort told us yesterday he just got hired at a FAANG company. So it’s 💯 possible!!!

    • @ebros2898
      @ebros2898 3 года назад

      @@CoderFoundry 1 out of 65,000 isn’t a lot but that’s great for him. Any tips besides joining your bootcamp?

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  3 года назад

      @@ebros2898 I was just trying to give you an example of one literally from yesterday. Do you have a portfolio I could look at?

  • @larrylaconi3480
    @larrylaconi3480 3 года назад +1

    This is GREAT advice and information. I just graduated from UConn's coding bootcamp and I'm struggling to find my way into the job market. The advice here is very helpful and gives me a much needed jolt of hope. thank you!

  • @KGcodes
    @KGcodes 4 года назад +2

    No one knows everything and new things are always coming. Coding is a life-long learning journey. Focus on a niche you are interested in push forward!

  • @michaelparker6871
    @michaelparker6871 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video,I started computer boot camp in October,just getting into the beginnings of coding!

    • @Jose-rj6nj
      @Jose-rj6nj 3 года назад

      And how does it go men?

  • @AArco-vc1jj
    @AArco-vc1jj 4 года назад +2

    Let's be honest:
    Coding is the type of job you must do well to hope getting hired. It's not a job you can do halfway and expect to pursue as a career. I was at IT helpdesk before coding and sometimes some agents would do tickets halfway and other more productive and professional colleagues would pick them up. Guess who remained lvl1 support and who evolved in their careers.
    Companies and specifically managers don't want to drag in their team a newbie for whom they must constantly review the code or make him sit next to a more experienced dev he can nag 10 times/day whenever he has a question. This delays the project and budget and deadlines are tight, unless you're lucky enough to start in the public sector like I did.
    My answer to everyone asking about coding and what to learn is the following:
    1. Are you able to sit and CONCENTRATE on smthg for AT LEAST 1h without interruption ? (Consider that you must code well at least 4hrs/day on your 8h work day)
    2. Are you someone who can learn to solve issues yourself by reading/searching in documentation or online? Or do you constantly need for someone to review your work or feel frustrated whenever you hit a roadblock?
    If just 1 of those answers is no, then you're just not fit for coding. Sorry to pop the dream in your mind.
    Recruiters and managers don't want to test having a dev with little experience, hence will all the juniors are stuck in the job hunting phase.
    I advise all juniors to work as contractor to pump up their cv.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      Not everyone can be a coder. But more can than people think. It is a skill but it is a skill that can learned. It’s difficult but not impossible.
      You are correct if you don't enjoy it you probably will not be good at it.

    • @AArco-vc1jj
      @AArco-vc1jj 4 года назад

      @@CoderFoundry Correct. One can improve his/her concentration skills but there's a limit to how much you can improve it. I had a fairly short high-intensity focus time but improved it. Unfortunately we live in a world where people have ever shorter concentration time spans, I see the impact tablets and phones have on my nephews compared to reading and it's scary.
      And thank you for the reply ! I subbed :)

  • @loveoneanother8760
    @loveoneanother8760 2 года назад

    I subscribed. You’re just so humble and nice and encouraging. I can just imagine how patient and amazing of a teacher you are. Thank you for the great video I really enjoyed it.

  • @glennadams8833
    @glennadams8833 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for that reminder. Gatekeepers and "luminaries of the day" can be buzzkills for folks trying to break into a new career, and I've got caught up in paying too much attention to that line of talk myself. I've found that If one is aligned with a growing market and the enthusiasm is there, get the training and jobs will appear.

  • @burhanbudak6041
    @burhanbudak6041 2 года назад +1

    No gatekeepers, its clueless recruiters, bad requirements of several years of experience. Many educations are there to filter talent. Guarantee for a job is to work for the same company or being a child genius.

  • @JD-vj4go
    @JD-vj4go 4 года назад +1

    Last 3 companies I worked for hired tons of junior devs. They're all offshore but there are tons of them.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      There are many opportunities for people who know how to code at all levels.

  • @karolveg
    @karolveg 2 года назад

    I like this channel. These are the best motivation videos for C# I found on RUclips. I want to specialize in C#. I am not a professional programmer. I am a physicist. I am doing more like engineering. My first project in C# was automatization of measurement, where I synchronized the motorized stage and detector in my experiment. Wau, it was so easy to write a program in C#. In my project, I needed TCP/IP connectivity to send commands to the hardware. I also needed to do some image manipulation. It is so good language. I also purchased a Visual studio. I believe this man. He recommended creating a few projects in C#, and I will do it. I think he is right. You should learn by doing. Actually, I replace my LabView codes with C# ones. Once more, great videos. Not only for IT specialists. You are hitting a broader audience.

  • @thehumanchannel9004
    @thehumanchannel9004 4 года назад +3

    I just realised hackers and phishers ensure there are jobs for developers
    Why? Because like you said if AI generates pages/coders the bad guys will re-engineer it.

  • @HelloThere-xs8ss
    @HelloThere-xs8ss 4 года назад +14

    Seriously, a person applying for a job needs to consider how they will contribute to the profit of the company. Otherwise, they are just a burden.

  • @tjmarshLoL
    @tjmarshLoL 3 года назад +2

    Quote”2020 is going to be a great year”. 🤣🤣 Jokes aside, there’s still so much to be thankful for.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  3 года назад

      Admittedly that didn’t age so well. But on the plus side, plenty of devs jobs still.

  • @qwarlockz8017
    @qwarlockz8017 4 года назад +2

    Oh my gosh! I started with Power Builder as well!!! So funny! I love study. I love coding. My biggest challenge is looking for work, doing contracts that after 6 months you need to go do it again... the instability gets me. Thanks for the vid! Made me feel great!

    • @qwarlockz8017
      @qwarlockz8017 4 года назад

      By the way... I have been in the industry for a while. But what process do you suggest for people to get the gigs. I would prefer full time perm. But mostly they give you contract work. So best case.. you are looking again in 6 months.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      See if you can work with a recruiter.

    • @albirtarsha5370
      @albirtarsha5370 4 года назад

      Be sure to sharpen your resume with each contract. At some point you will cross the badass threshold.

  • @rxspicychicken2402
    @rxspicychicken2402 4 года назад +4

    See I am about to graduate with my associates in software programming, but I feel like I learnt hardly anything and I have almost a 4.0 gpa. I've covered vb.net, python, php, javascript, jquery, html, css, sql, java, used 7 different IDE's but I can't tell you how many times they taught us what an array was, or what variables were over and over.
    So I bought a book to teach myself asp.net core with mvc.

  • @xesiusprime9360
    @xesiusprime9360 3 года назад

    awesome thanks man much appreciated. I am encouraged to continue.

  • @yannkelsendonastien5112
    @yannkelsendonastien5112 3 года назад +1

    The way that chopping video was interwoven had me sooooo weakkkk

  • @BryceDoe
    @BryceDoe 4 года назад +3

    I learned node js and didnt listen to you talking about C#. I regret it now trying to find an internship

    • @bobbydavisjr007
      @bobbydavisjr007 4 года назад

      Keep working and don't give up. Start looking at c# while you are interviewing.

  • @king-manu2758
    @king-manu2758 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this, I'm feeling a bit hopeless lately. I've been studying by myself since April and some days I think I may have talent for this and some other days I feel I don't have what it takes. I'm gonna keep pushing through, I hope it's worth it in the end.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  3 года назад +6

      Start building a project. You don't have to know everything. Build a custom project and use that during interviews.

    • @cecamix4711
      @cecamix4711 3 года назад

      Thank you❤

  • @henryboy19
    @henryboy19 4 года назад +1

    Hi Bobby. Thanks for the video. It has disheartening just how challenging it is to not only get a job but just to get an interview. I have been learning to code for several years and I am constantly turned away because of the lack of experience on my resume. It makes one just want to look elsewhere seeing how those trying to get into the field are treated. Certainly there will be a ramp up and beginner blues when someone new is starting but someone willing to learn and work hard should have the opportunity to at least try. Especially given the shortage and desperate need for coders.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      Do you have a portfolio?

    • @henryboy19
      @henryboy19 4 года назад

      @@CoderFoundry yep I have a github with some projects I have worked on and show the potential of my projects. I currently am working with react native on a chat mobile application

  • @danielvantsant
    @danielvantsant 3 года назад

    Thank you I needed to hear this. I'm choosing this career to match my personality.

  • @ascourter
    @ascourter 2 года назад

    I have hired and worked with many self taught programmers and it really is up to the individual to learn and shape their career. You don't need a degree to be successful and I have several friends who started in a bootcamp who have gone on to have very good careers in software.

  • @Abzman96
    @Abzman96 3 года назад

    I been using Treehouse to study coding. I recently completed a Web design track with them which covers HTLM, CSS, JavaScript and Many more. But now I am going to focus on Python and see how I get on.

  • @HologramJay
    @HologramJay 3 года назад +1

    Does the “job market isn’t saturated” still hold true in December 2020? I keep seeing all kinds of people that got laid off flocking towards web dev as their new career. The number of applicants for jobs is pretty insane too.

    • @TitaniumTronic
      @TitaniumTronic 2 года назад +2

      Coding becoming a common skill would suck for the salaries 😭

  • @zekea7873
    @zekea7873 3 года назад

    I’m studying compsci in college; it’s kind of daunting, and idk exactly how what I’m learning will apply in the workplace, but I’m hoping I can break into the industry. Great video ❤️

    • @ntantar
      @ntantar 3 года назад +1

      Oh it really will..If I never learned C before learning Javascript I probably would've been lost. Keep at it and start doing personal projects now. Good luck!

  • @logan4179
    @logan4179 4 года назад +2

    I'm not really sure that this is true. I don't believe that it's a gate-keeper mentality telling people it's difficult as hell to land your first job. I think it's just the truth. From my experience, you often need to have experience that quite-closely matches exactly what the company lists. Companies aren't generally willing to take what they see as a chance on someone who doesn't closely match their required qualifications. And before some of the less-nuanced of you start to tell me all the justifications, might I remind you that experienced developers don't just materialize out of thin air. I once heard a statistic that about half of software developers in the US are foreigners on H1B. That's a shocking amount, and does a lot to explain why competition for these jobs is so cut-throat. I would be quite skeptical about what this guy is saying.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад

      My only response is I run a coding bootcamp, a software consultancy and we spend our day recruiting people into software jobs. I never said it was easy you have to acquire skills. But our bootcamp grads get jobs everyday. So that means we are placing people into roles that were not previously software developers. Also half the people working are not h1b visas it is not even close. There is a cap on h1b visas in the us. Even if all h1b were software devs then why would there be 24k open c# positions in the us today. This means there is tons of opportunities for us based devs.

  • @vinayrwt
    @vinayrwt 3 года назад +1

    2020 was my coding year

  • @developerhabits
    @developerhabits 4 года назад +3

    Great thoughts. The fact that almost all industries are utilising tech makes the profession of developers really valuable. Let's hope the mindset of giving newcomers an opportunity to prove themselves also spreads.

  • @Sora_Nai
    @Sora_Nai 3 года назад

    When people say that 69% people are self taught is not true only 1% of people that get in are self taught you need to be part of a creditable school or training system.

  • @stoneageprogrammer432
    @stoneageprogrammer432 3 года назад +1

    Thank you. Great video.

  • @mpedersen9975
    @mpedersen9975 3 года назад

    Thank you so much. I've developed a few basic apps, am an intermediate level coder in python and Java, but I keep getting discouraged to increase my skills because I don't see the point. It seems impossible to get a job, because they all want at least a few years of experience and a computer science degree. So this kinda helped.

    • @jenkathefridge3933
      @jenkathefridge3933 2 года назад

      Go for internships to show experience for coding and put projects you made in a portfolio

  • @xiam5941
    @xiam5941 3 года назад

    great vid thanks! my feedback for the visual aspect is try to make the lighting more balanced. i just thought it was a bit weird looking with the one eye being dark lol just some feedback my friend, thank you again and all the best :)

  • @Zaph_Kiel
    @Zaph_Kiel 2 года назад

    In my opinion its the structure that is lacking: in any other industry you have a pyramid of layered management and workers but less so in development.

  • @yadullahkurt2189
    @yadullahkurt2189 3 года назад

    I love your channel so much. thank you for all advices!

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching. We appreciate it.

  • @usurpercries
    @usurpercries 3 года назад +1

    He goes “2020 is a great year” ohhh I see this was made before March huh

  • @kchemutai3483
    @kchemutai3483 4 года назад +2

    Definitely a Great motivation and it just makes Me Focus More

  • @deanaldo.
    @deanaldo. 4 года назад +1

    Ar and VR is on my radar and sparks my interest alot

  • @1973sophia
    @1973sophia 4 года назад

    You are so encouraging! I am getting discouraged and thought ill not be able to chnage career as my background is in nursing but i really like to get into software. Ill do some self study first to get some foundation and look into your coding camp school. Thank you for this video.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      Keep at it! We have a student in our current cohort with a nursing degree.

  • @lawrence6120
    @lawrence6120 4 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @solidcat3917
    @solidcat3917 3 года назад +1

    In my country they post Jr Dev jobs but you need to have 2+ years exp and needs to know like 5 programming languages. So I'm starting to lose hope XD

  • @cydriicvhelk204
    @cydriicvhelk204 2 года назад

    Wow thanks!

  • @robnoodle1
    @robnoodle1 2 года назад

    I’ve been a general laborer all my life
    My last job was modest pay. But I was content on what was I was making.
    But now due to Covid it effected the business I was working for & I’m out of a job & @ 54 I feel I’m going to age my self out of further general labor jobs & not make the sufficient living.
    So I need to work with my mind & not my muscles. As an uneducated old fool I’m interested in coding as my last career.

  • @harrahcreary15
    @harrahcreary15 2 года назад

    Thank you

  • @adamromero
    @adamromero 2 года назад

    I like how the video starts: "2020 is a great year..."

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  2 года назад

      yeah that didn't age very well :/
      Still a great year to learn to code though. Lots of coding jobs and lots of remote opportunities.

  • @micjakes1
    @micjakes1 4 года назад +1

    Is there another IT crash happening now? All the layoffs in the news are really scary. Is there cause for concern?

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад

      I don't think so. Hiring will always happen in dev. We are becoming more connected not less. So we need devs to fill those jobs.

  • @matthewhayes9734
    @matthewhayes9734 2 года назад

    Well this video was pretty scary for me because according to your predictions about what the average senior developer makes that's less than what I'm currently making at my sales job. And I wanted to get into software engineering to give myself more stability but also hopefully a pay raise.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  2 года назад

      Sales can pay really well. Software dev with 5 years experience can be pay really well.

  • @suburbanblackboyradio2663
    @suburbanblackboyradio2663 4 года назад +1

    Very sound advice. 🙏🏾

  • @TheCoolj1212
    @TheCoolj1212 4 года назад +2

    So would a good be to freelance and build a clientele/portfolio? I was actually under the impression that this field was in high demand.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад

      Try to break in with a job/contract first. It’s much easier to continue your learning journey in a non-freelance position. Get a job then if you prefer go back to freelancing.

  • @OneManCanStopTheMotorOfWorld
    @OneManCanStopTheMotorOfWorld 3 года назад

    Haha “ we break in all the time” truer words have never been said about us coders ;)

  • @donklee3514
    @donklee3514 2 года назад

    You know what "self taught" really means? It means all the time, money, and effort is on you. Not the employer who wants and gets all this effort for free. When you learn some useless "up and coming technology" that doesn't catch on with the employers than all the time, money, and effort is totally on you. The learning curves in tech are steep and relentless and on you. I've been hearing growth projection like this for decades. For decades, software developer positions have been in a perpetual state of shortage at the prices being offered by employers. The learning curve is one of the main reasons why the costs of entry are so high and why the pay being offered is too low. Because all the time, money, and effort is all on you.

  • @eberronbruce1328
    @eberronbruce1328 3 года назад +1

    If software devs are in short supply, then why do companies expect at least 3 years of experience for entry level and pay really poorly for those roles?

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  3 года назад

      It's really about building a career. Sure your first role may not pay what you want but after three to five years you can make more and get better positions.
      Not every job is asking for 3 years experience. Apply anyway. Those are job descriptions. Look at the number of open jobs.

    • @eberronbruce1328
      @eberronbruce1328 3 года назад

      @@CoderFoundry Face the same issue after having 5+ year experience in mobile app development. Except I get hundreds calls a day from so called recruiters who want me to work for their clients but want me to accept really low pay for the skills, the kind that have you second guessing career path. I have a feeling that businesses don't understand the value of software engineering.

    • @eberronbruce1328
      @eberronbruce1328 3 года назад

      @@CoderFoundry I do get some decent opportunities that are willing to pay well, but the majority of them want to take advantage of you.

    • @esamcoding
      @esamcoding 3 года назад

      @@eberronbruce1328 in what way they want to take advantage of you?

    • @eberronbruce1328
      @eberronbruce1328 3 года назад +1

      @@esamcoding By wanting to not pay or extremely under pay for your skills and expertise. Had a company short change me and had another didn't pay me for 2 months until I had to tell the end client. Then some of them want to pay you below what you can make flipping burgers. There are a lot of trash companies out there, so beware.

  • @jakepyrett1715
    @jakepyrett1715 2 года назад

    Update: two years later. AI has GPT-3 that can write code. Github co-pilot.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  2 года назад +1

      Gpt3 at best can write simple programs. Co-pilot suggests code. It may get there one day but not today.

  • @akhilnlb
    @akhilnlb 4 года назад +1

    ​Hi, I was doing little bit of ASP.NET backend web dev 2 years before. I am currently learning JS (React) , Python (django). I am doing my masters , I have 6 months to graduate, I want to work in large enterprises post master's in Germany. Can you suggest if I should go back to learn .NET stack rather than spending time to learn React/Django?

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      Check job postings in Germany. But asp.net has wide adoption in the US.

  • @ReasonNLogic
    @ReasonNLogic 4 года назад

    Zero years are the concluding years of decades, centuries and millennia. Just because array indices start with zero doesn’t mean calendars do.

  • @IvanIvanov-po6nw
    @IvanIvanov-po6nw 4 года назад +1

    Hello, I’m 50 years old living in Boston, MA and started learning the coding a few months ago after our family’s small business fell through because of the Corona virus. Is there a slightest chance for me to break into the industry and get my 1st job? Do you think my age could be an issue? thanks in advance

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      Yes there is a chance. Agesim is real but.. you can overcome that with a great portfolio and learn how to interview. It is not easy but it is possible.

    • @IvanIvanov-po6nw
      @IvanIvanov-po6nw 4 года назад

      Coder Foundry thank you so much for the encouragement sir! I appreciate it!

  • @Christopher.dreamless
    @Christopher.dreamless 3 года назад

    If you’re young and watching this.....
    Join the Military, lock yourself in your barracks for 3 years, setup your lab, collect a definite paycheck and security, get out after theee years now you have coding knowledge, VA benefits, VA home loan, good credit, and free college. Easy money. (And be IT in the military)

  • @rahuldutta8386
    @rahuldutta8386 3 года назад

    Netlify offers 100GB

  • @CraigDrummond
    @CraigDrummond 4 года назад

    You said that the average salary for a Senior Software Engineer is 105k per year but this doesn't match any of the places that report salaries. A Google search for "average salary for senior developer" indicates a range between 86 and 200 with places like LinkedIn having the range be 160 - 200k. Perhaps 105k is the average for where you are but there are lots of places outside of Silicone Valley that have higher average salaries

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      I was quoting a source from this study. But certainly people make more than 105.
      money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/rankings/the-100-best-jobs

  • @TheExperiment24
    @TheExperiment24 Год назад

    Ive lived in Winston-Salem most of my life and now that I have moved across country I'm just now hearing about you guys???? ughhh

  • @sinebar
    @sinebar 4 года назад

    Which should I learn. iOS or Windows?

  • @chazzman4553
    @chazzman4553 4 года назад +1

    Don't jump the hype, it's not worth it, you don't have that much life to meet constantly growing requirements. No one will pay for your education, no one will tolerate you not knowing how to work! They hire slowly and fire quickly.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. Is this based on an experience you have had?

  • @joebloggs3907
    @joebloggs3907 4 года назад +1

    You mention in 4:08 you mention you taught yourself PowerBuilder and started coding. I'm in a similar position I am involved in two PowerBuilder projects and in a .NET project in the company I work for. Since you have experience in this topic, what is your perception towards PowerBuilder? I had nearly 5 years of experience as a BI/DWH Specialist and some Developer experience as well before changing company and learning PB. What is your opinion regarding the technology?

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад +1

      Powerbuilder is not in high demand today. I was using powerbuilder in the 90s. I would try and convince them to move the PB project to .net.

    • @joebloggs3907
      @joebloggs3907 4 года назад +1

      @@CoderFoundry Cheers.

  • @timlawrence7204
    @timlawrence7204 4 года назад

    So you started as a COBOL Developer? I am transitioning to C# but COBOL has been a big part of my 22 years in software development!

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад

      I actually never used cobol after college. So I started as a windows dev using powerbuilder.

    • @dKonstructed
      @dKonstructed 4 года назад +2

      I heard that there are some fat contracts available for COBOL folks to help companies transition main frames over to modern tech stacks -- or just to keep them running. Any truth to that rumor?

  • @KG-ck9hb
    @KG-ck9hb 3 года назад +1

    Can i break into coding jobs without a college degree and being self taught?

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  3 года назад +2

      Sure! People do it all the time.

  • @nxet2669
    @nxet2669 3 года назад

    Is coding is a secure field as medical

  • @talkingSkunk
    @talkingSkunk 3 года назад

    I heard tell of Coding, and it brought me here, but I don't even know where to start... Could you give any guidance? Thanks.

  • @brendonanderson8673
    @brendonanderson8673 4 года назад +1

    Great content! I just want to find out if the MCSA and MCSD certifications can help me land a job as a junior dev?

    • @bobbydavisjr007
      @bobbydavisjr007 4 года назад +1

      I think certs are helpful. But the portfolio is more important.

    • @johnjordan3552
      @johnjordan3552 3 года назад

      Where's the new Stormlight Archive book?

  • @miunify
    @miunify 4 года назад +1

    Oh...

  • @ashukersma1987
    @ashukersma1987 3 года назад

    I have been learning python and java certificate program at a continuing education university program in 2021. I'm also learning js, CSS by myself as well. I get solution ideas for problems I come up with, but it becomes frustrating when converting it into code. I think I need a mentor, Any advice?

  • @lachocolatada
    @lachocolatada 4 года назад

    Hi,
    Just a quick question. I come from a visual career (illustration) and want to change paths. Problem 1: I am 43. Problem 2: I would love doing UX UI design but my English level is not quite good. What do you suggest? Should I start as a Front End developer and then migrate to UX? Do you think companies would take me being so old (we have to accept now even a 10 year old can code...)? Do I have real chances of being hired or should I go directly to the freelance world? I would love to have your input on this since I think in UX/UI I could shine because of my empathy and personality, but I am afraid of starting studying and then knocking my head on a wall (even if the next decade would be the one for coders as you say.) Many thanks in advance and thanks for your encouragement! I really love your videos! ♥️

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад

      43 is not old at all. Work on your skills and show them to an employer via a portfolio.

    • @lachocolatada
      @lachocolatada 4 года назад

      @@CoderFoundry Thank you! I will! 😊♥️

    • @j.d.singer8517
      @j.d.singer8517 2 года назад

      @@CoderFoundry How about 50? I started just very recently

  • @SimplicityForGood
    @SimplicityForGood 3 года назад +2

    I like to make an AI program that take out all Lawyers! 😎👌🏻🤣👍🏻

  • @djfdevelopment
    @djfdevelopment 4 года назад +1

    Cant go wrong with angular 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @whenlifegivesyouLSD
    @whenlifegivesyouLSD 4 года назад +1

    I really wanna get into .net core 3.0 but I can't find any good courses on it. any help ?

    • @Argonm3
      @Argonm3 4 года назад

      Why .net I think there are better and more popular programming languages like python!

  • @didactic02
    @didactic02 4 года назад

    Thank you for the encouragement. I will keep pressing.

    • @CoderFoundry
      @CoderFoundry  4 года назад

      You're welcome Mark. Keep at it!

  • @ConnoisseurOfExistence
    @ConnoisseurOfExistence 4 года назад +1

    Super encouraging!

  • @enterblue67
    @enterblue67 3 года назад

    iam a 25 year old civil engineer (2018) batch from india with (1 year of experience) and currently not working due to covid restrictions,
    my question to you is -can i apply for a coding job in India and after completing 1or 2 years of coding experience & then can i apply for MS in "computer science" or "Data science" in USA and get a good 6 figure IT job there?

  • @J3FFXO
    @J3FFXO 3 года назад

    10 years???