Reviewing the ENTIRE WACACO RANGE (and Picopresso Workflow)

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    This is a breakdown of the entire Wacaco Coffee Brewing Gear Range, including the Minipresso, Nanopresso, Barista Kit, Picopresso, Cuppamoka, Pipamoka, Exagram, Exagrind, and the new Minipresso NS2.
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Комментарии • 128

  • @BrodieVissers
    @BrodieVissers  Год назад +7

    Which brewer is your favourite, and why?

    • @kingalthe1st160
      @kingalthe1st160 Год назад +11

      Picopresso. There is no comparison. Pico makes true, barista-quality espresso. The others all make tasty brews, but only Pico makes real espresso with correct body and crema. It's an amazing little device that creates a better shot than many $1000 machines.

    • @artlyc
      @artlyc Год назад

      @@kingalthe1st160 what happens if you used a regular medium/find grind coffee (not espresso) on the picopresso... will you get a decent brew of coffee or its not recommended to do so?

    • @kingalthe1st160
      @kingalthe1st160 Год назад +2

      @@artlyc that is a good question. I have not tried anything other than espresso, but my guess is that, while you'd get something drinkable, it probably wouldn't be great. It's definitely designed for a singular purpose, and does it extremely well.

    • @gombia
      @gombia Год назад

      @@kingalthe1st160 how is the durability of picopresso? what do u think?

    • @kingalthe1st160
      @kingalthe1st160 Год назад +3

      @@gombia very durable! The plastic is more dense and rubberized. It also uses metal parts, a robust pump, and thick silicone seals. It's wonderfully designed and executed. With reasonable care, it should last years and years.

  • @ErikKruse1
    @ErikKruse1 Год назад +17

    Wacaco Nanopresso user since April 2019 here! I'm also a flight attendant and rely on this device to save me time and money while also allowing me to choose my espresso on the road. I used the Nanopresso for about 18 months before switching to the NS adapter and using capsules, which greatly improved the cleanup and streamlined my brewing while traveling.
    I've used the Nanopresso at national parks, on aircraft, at airports, in hotels, at Airbnb's, among other places. I also use an immersion coil to boil my water in a collapsible silicone cup, as I have access to electrical outlets most of the time. I make Americanos, add sugar free syrup and/or agave syrup, a couple of half & halfs and the rest of the hot water I've boiled. I've saved hundreds of dollars over overpriced (and underflavored) airport 'coffee', and I have full choice of which espresso I want to use!
    Thanks for your recent Minipresso NS2 review. I'm considering switching to it, as it'll save me a little space. I'll ask a question about that device on the comments for that video, but I'm glad I discovered your channel today!

    • @salimshamim8779
      @salimshamim8779 9 месяцев назад

      The only reason I justify to buy a espresso machine is this literally. can you tell me what grinder do you use, as most of the grinders I watch videos off do just an ok job at best. Can you share your choice ?

  • @DANFELLOWScoffeecocktails
    @DANFELLOWScoffeecocktails Год назад +8

    Massive fan of the Picopresso right here 👋 awesome video!

  • @Sol-hl2rj
    @Sol-hl2rj 9 месяцев назад

    Nice review, bit you tamp waaay to light on the espresso - the water shall struggle to get through, and move through fairly slow.
    Love my Wacaco’s - It has changed the way I enjoy coffee outdoors!

  • @PittsBurgh772
    @PittsBurgh772 Год назад

    I upgraded to the picopresso from nescafe and found it quite lovely.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Oh wow, great jump! Glad you’re enjoying it :)

  • @tonyhollingsworth3168
    @tonyhollingsworth3168 Год назад +2

    Just got the nanopresso to dip the toe in espressso. I’m definitely going to save for the barista kit and that pico. Thanks for the reviews!

  • @Tomshon9909
    @Tomshon9909 Год назад +4

    I started with the minipresso and I used it for years! The head of GR has pressure valve, which means very consistent brewing. Then I skipped nanopresso and bought pipamoka. Pipamoka is completely different animal, jump from espresso to "filter-like" coffee is huge. Even my favorite baristas were amazed, how the pipamoka extracted new flavours from their coffee. Also pretty consistent, the only downside is its lid.
    I bought also the cuppamoka, that is "normal pour over filter" like V60. Cuppa comes with that awesome cup cap, but the coffee is the same as you brew at home, so 🤷 meh.
    My last wacaco thingie was picopresso. Pros: small but powerful, you can play with the coffee a lot, cons: somehow messy to prepare more than one coffee.
    The most awesome coffee? Pipamoka.
    The best in space saving? Picopresso
    The best workhorse for the office without coffeemachine? Minipresso or nanopresso.
    Enjoy your coffee!

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад +1

      Love the feedback, thanks for sharing!

    • @fabiosantoro8870
      @fabiosantoro8870 Год назад

      Minipresso ns2 o nanopresso?

    • @Tomshon9909
      @Tomshon9909 Год назад

      @@fabiosantoro8870 depends on if you like to have "proper espresso" or just good coffee and less hassle. Nanopresso means more proper espresso

  • @derrickw5805
    @derrickw5805 Год назад +1

    Pico just came in Yesterday!! One question, throw a link in for that Bag your using to carry the Wacacos please!!

  • @elangrizky8255
    @elangrizky8255 Год назад +1

    I like ur videos mate
    I had a plan to purchased between staresso sp200 or mirage, nanopresso, and picopresso
    Which one i should choose?? And why?
    Please help me to decide one
    Thanks!

  • @spartak_ivanov
    @spartak_ivanov Год назад +1

    Hey! Have a question regarding picopresso. Is there any wacaco or side company adapter for Nespresso capsules? I really personally more into picopresso instead nanopresso (not that portable and outdated), so nanopresso is not an option and would love to use picopresso with capsules🙈

  • @jtosti66
    @jtosti66 Год назад +2

    Great video, very informative. I have the minipresso, the barista kit, and the pipamoka and I love them all. I like quality products and this is what I like so much about Wacaco. Thanks

  • @tomanicodin
    @tomanicodin 10 дней назад

    Honestly, after brewing specialty and enjoying it, you saying mhhh to a nespresso capsule throws a lot of your credibility 😅

  • @mrjceltic
    @mrjceltic Год назад

    Very helpful tips & reviews but I'm just not that bothered with the scales, grind yes which took a bit of trail. I have a nano with the barrister kit & use larger basket but still use smaller tank. I love the quality coffee I get from it & use it every day at work. Last night I purchased a pico model so looking forward to comparing it when it arrives. 👍

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Let me know how it goes! I think you’ll see a big difference

  • @hamleyn
    @hamleyn Год назад +3

    I've had a Picopresso for about a year now and absolutely love the espresso it makes. It's not the most consistent machine ever but if I nail my puck prep, I'm able to get delicious coffee out of it.
    That being said, I am a bit concerned about longevity, particularly at the price. My pump just randomly stopped working after I hadn't used it in a couple of weeks. It was replaced under warranty which was great and very easy but still didn't do a lot to allay my longevity concern.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад +1

      Hmmm, well I can say I’ve been using mine for 2 years and still works well, it was the prerelease model too, sometimes these things happen, but I’m glad you got it fixed

    • @hamleyn
      @hamleyn Год назад

      @@BrodieVissers good to know you've have a good long term experience!

    • @tikoseip
      @tikoseip 9 месяцев назад

      I have my picopresso for two years, but have recently had the pump replaced for the second time. First time it started leaking really nad, the second time it stopped working. I really love the quality of the coffee it makes and i use it regularly (approx 2 cups a day). But i do share the longevity concern.

  • @Itsmikevardy
    @Itsmikevardy Год назад +2

    I just picked up the nano because I’m fairly new to espresso. The Picopresso seemed like it would be a bit more in terms of dialing in and such. Hopefully, I made the right choice!

  • @CaffeineJogger
    @CaffeineJogger 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have the NS model for pods. Can I buy an attachment to convert Pod model to GR? Cheers

  • @mitchbugnay
    @mitchbugnay Год назад +1

    I own a minipresso NS2. Super small, light, easy to clean, easy to use and very handy! Save money and my day.

  • @alejandroamezaga7679
    @alejandroamezaga7679 Год назад +1

    great video Brodie!! let me ask you... a got a picopresso for a while, I can not get cream... what I could be doing wrong?

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад +1

      Alright, so make sure you start with fresh coffee, and also grind it right before you brew (no preground). After that, play with the grind size to make sure it's not too fine or two coarse, but the main concern is probably freshness!

  • @PandaKitchen85
    @PandaKitchen85 Год назад

    Hello! Excellent video. What brand is your coffee mill?

  • @MatteoMi
    @MatteoMi 4 месяца назад +1

    As an Italian, I salute your tolerance to caffeine, you tried every single coffee for this video, true commitment to your audience! 😁
    Great video, very informative, thank you! :)

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  4 месяца назад

      Haha thanks, yes years of practice. But only sips

  • @Francois_Dupont
    @Francois_Dupont 9 месяцев назад

    you do not compress the ground coffee much on the nanopresso/minipresso ?

  • @ryankimura312
    @ryankimura312 9 месяцев назад +1

    Best product review video I've ever seen! Answered every single question I had. Great job! And thanks!

  • @beermanson3508
    @beermanson3508 10 месяцев назад

    can you use the filter cap on a octoroma cup? since the cuppamoka and octoroma look so similar

  • @plash6738
    @plash6738 Год назад +1

    Awesome video man. Just came across your channel, super high quality and love the color grading! Subscribed.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Oh wow thanks so much! Glad to have you along for the journey :)

  • @frugalcode
    @frugalcode Год назад +1

    Can the pipamoka hold the hot water in so I don't need to boil it before brewing or carry it in a separate thermos?

    • @patrickdolan.
      @patrickdolan. Месяц назад +1

      You could do that. Keeps hot water for 4 hours or so. They claim 8 hours but I find it's not hot enough to brew

  • @JiraK-z2x
    @JiraK-z2x Год назад

    Does the Picopress. has NS adapter as Nanopress.?

  • @TheBrad605
    @TheBrad605 3 месяца назад

    I use nanopress GR. It’s basically Starbucks in my kitchen. I do a super fine Starbucks espresso roast. I honestly can’t tell the taste difference. Mine might be a little stronger. Killer little machine.

  • @sohelnoman5709
    @sohelnoman5709 Месяц назад

    Hi i am using Nanopresso with Batista kit from 2018/19...til now it works fantastic...

  • @Araknalam
    @Araknalam Год назад +1

    I owned a Nanopresso and now own a Picopresso, Pipamoka and Cuppamoka. My favourite Brewer is the Pipamoka because it's easy to use also with preground coffee. I also like the Picopresso very much, but at home I use my Aram. Sometimes I also use a Cafflano Kompresso, because it is the only brewer that doesn't need a preheat.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Great to hear that you're getting good use out of the Pipamoka too! It's true, it's easier on coffee that's pre-ground if that's the case

  • @respen43
    @respen43 Год назад +1

    I'm interested in the Pico, but the lack of a cup is off-putting as I want to use it for camping/traveling. Are there any plans to offer a cup for the Pico? Otherwise, can you buy the Nano's cup separately or do you have a recommended travel cup for the Pico? Thanks.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад +1

      I understand what you mean, but I do like the aspect that it's more compact without the cup. I would say just pick up a small mug to travel with, and honestly the Octaroma comes in a 180ml size with tight-fitting lid, so that could be a good choice for the Pico!

    • @williamwong8550
      @williamwong8550 Год назад

      To drink espresso, I don't mind to bring a great cup even camping/traveling. The taste, smell and feeling get upgraded.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      @@williamwong8550 I'm particular about cups too ;)

  • @PositivelyNice
    @PositivelyNice Год назад +1

    I was so looking for this. I really don’t mind you being an ambassador at all. How else would anyone get their hands on everything?! 🙏 Thanks!

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Haha huge thanks, that means a lot :) glad you enjoyed!

  • @hamusyaigh3317
    @hamusyaigh3317 8 месяцев назад

    19:37 is there a defect in your purchase? My Pipamoka lid fits perfectly and doesn't leak at all.

  • @chandy-kane
    @chandy-kane 5 месяцев назад

    I love my mini NS2 the only downside is it hard to take off the bottom part after making the espresso shot

  • @Drandeanne
    @Drandeanne 5 месяцев назад

    New Picopressor owner here. Took it camping and so far pretty happy (once I finally dialed in grind size)

  • @fugglestick
    @fugglestick 7 месяцев назад

    It would be a lot easier to have a pack of instant coffee. Seems a lot of faffing around for a coffee

  • @NickWebster
    @NickWebster Год назад +1

    I got my Picopresso for use in the university office kitchen earlier this year and it's since accompanied me on two trips, one bringing it through three countries.
    Paired with my 1zpresso JX Pro, it's an outstanding brewer. The main issue is getting it clean and dry quickly when I'm in the shared kitchenette (but in the case where I was staying at a place long term with it, I'd leave it disassembled to dry which made it painless)
    I use the exagram which is lovely albeit far too loud on the beeps (hoping for a much quieter v2 in the future)

    • @Tomshon9909
      @Tomshon9909 Год назад +1

      Disassembe the body, find the beeper, attack it with office or electrician tape:-)

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад +2

      I think there might be something in the pipeline regarding the scale, stay tuned :)

  • @TangodownNZ
    @TangodownNZ Год назад

    With the barrister kit they recommend taking out the silicone bit out of the spring in the nozzle. You did not mention that. I was wondering what you thought about that

  • @suleymango
    @suleymango Год назад

    18:12 I used it my Thailand Travel too. Just wanna say after hear that 👋

  • @dpinhoo
    @dpinhoo Год назад

    Hello Brodie. Need some help..how many clicks do i have to make on the 1zPresso JX-PRO for the pipamoka brew a nice coffee.
    Thanks a lot 👍
    🇵🇹

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Hey there, sorry I haven't used the 1zPresso, but Pipamoka is more forgiving, just make it a bit finer than a pour-over grind and you should be fine.

  • @saintl1377
    @saintl1377 9 месяцев назад

    This is a GREAT review. I purchased one for my husband- he adores coffee and is highly critical....it was one of the best gifts I had bought him- pours an excellent coffee...and he can take on his drives to the mountains. Thanks for the excellent video.

  • @markookic7055
    @markookic7055 Год назад

    Please i need information...how much rotation needed for grind 18g of coffe?

  • @GeneralKato
    @GeneralKato Год назад

    I am curious about those presses if they leak after use. I see no o-rings at some points? If i just a a coffee, in the video you quickly turn the nanopresso around (3 mins into vid). Does it keep pressing out coffee? Even just drops? Too bad you showed everything but this.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      I turned the Nanopresso upside down to put it down after the brew is done, that’s how it stands up on the surface. I didn’t think there was much to show there. Without pressure it won’t press through

  • @pinikpikantv3555
    @pinikpikantv3555 Год назад +1

    I am a nanopresso user and considering to get the picopresso due to great claims it produce "true espresso". The nano is still `'the on the go coffee making king`' for me as it has lot of accessories like DG Gusto adapter, NS capsules and the Barista Kit. Great comparisons. Enjoyed every second of it.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад +2

      Good suggestion! Maybe I should make a video all about the versatility of the nano

    • @Dan-jf1nw
      @Dan-jf1nw Год назад

      I upgraded this week and don’t know how I lasted so long. If the NS kit didn’t burst capsules all the time, I probably would have been more satisfied with the Nanopresso. I used it exclusively with ground coffee which is beat by the Picopresso in every aspect.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      @@Dan-jf1nw Hey, nice to hear. Yeah the Pico will make superior espresso, but I still love the Nano. When you say bust capsules, what does that look like? I've tested a wide range of capsules and they all work fine for me

    • @Dan-jf1nw
      @Dan-jf1nw Год назад

      @@BrodieVissers In about 50% of cases, the foil on the top of the NS capsule exploded, leaving coffee grinds in the bottom of the cup. I eventually used a pin to prick tiny holes in the foil before using the capsules which helped most cases. There's a lot of commentary online about this, but since I had a gap in travel I didn't really care to use it so much anyways and stuck to the barista kit.

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 4 месяца назад

    which one do you use if youre going to a park? what about the cleanup?

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  4 месяца назад +1

      You can use any, if you want to make multiple just do a quick wipe for coffee grounds, and then back it up when you’re done and wash at home, just make sure you don’t let it sit too long or the coffee will mould

  • @howardbecdove9780
    @howardbecdove9780 Год назад

    Wow! I’ll have to look through your entire vid collection now. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Tomshon9909
    @Tomshon9909 Год назад

    What grinder are you using?

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад +1

      The Grinder is the Exagram from Wacaco :)

    • @Tomshon9909
      @Tomshon9909 Год назад

      @@BrodieVissers ahh, I missed that. Thanks, looks like I will need one

  • @Zengawolf
    @Zengawolf Год назад

    Great job using old plastic water bottle…. I hear it’s great for your health

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Haha, I think the impact is very minimal if not completely negligible, especially if you don’t heat the water. But feel free to send studies 🙏🏼

  • @ripkiwiz3619
    @ripkiwiz3619 Год назад

    I need some help, I ordered the picopresso, got it about a week ago. I dropped it within the first 3 days and it landed on its lid and the lid crack along the threads. I glued it back together and that seems to work but is there anyway of ording a new one?

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Try getting in touch with the Support team to see if they can mail you the extra part :)

  • @williamwong8550
    @williamwong8550 Год назад +1

    I am also a big fan of Wacaco. I got Nanopresso, Barista kit, Pipamoka, Picopresso, Exagram and finally Exagrind. Before I used 1Zpresso's Q2 grinder. It's light weight but the espresso is not satisfied brewed by Picopresso. I also have M47 and of course it is the best espresso grinder except outdoor usage even I love espresso very much. I ask myself is it enough to have Q2 and M47 only. Finally I get Exagrind today. It is not expensive but the output is in top grade, good match with Picopresso and other Wacaco products. The design is good to make it compact to bring anywhere. It is really a good news to Wacaco users.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      I’m glad to hear that! Exagrind really is great for the Pico :)

  • @kajin4j
    @kajin4j Год назад

    I have a pipamoka, and it does not leak!

  • @georgehugo561
    @georgehugo561 10 месяцев назад

    Hey! Good and helpful reviews, thank you. I appreciate the honest reviews, giving critique on some features despite the fact that you're a brand ambassador. I'm an industrial designer who also designs some coffee products and getting a wide range of reviews of existing products really help with troubleshooting my own designs.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  10 месяцев назад +1

      Oh thanks so much, and I appreciate the input :) glad I can help you out in some way!

    • @georgehugo561
      @georgehugo561 10 месяцев назад

      @@BrodieVissers I ended up watching your video about Orea and the Orea lean startup model and found that helpful too. The part about doing some form of low volume production or having as many people as possible test prototypes is such good advice! As a product designer I've learned that you ALWAYS learn something from user testing. I can think I know my design inside out, but just handing it to someone and having them use it without directing what they do will always show up ways you can improve the user experience.

  • @Reversedpi
    @Reversedpi Год назад

    My favourite wacaco must be the nanopresso + barista kit, without the pressurised valve rubber. Super versatile little brewer, from nespresso pods, pressurised valve for coarser grinds to espresso! I 3D printed a dosing funnel for the double shot basket too

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Oh wow that’s awesome! Did you post the dosing funnel in the Wacaco Facebook group?

    • @Reversedpi
      @Reversedpi Год назад

      @@BrodieVissers oh i did not know that there was a fb group. I just joined it!

  • @michabak472
    @michabak472 Год назад

    Where is Wacaco Nanovessel? Cool video!

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      I believe they discontinued it, but thanks for watching!

  • @Bowser558
    @Bowser558 10 месяцев назад

    Timestamps would be nice :)

  • @ryan6465
    @ryan6465 Год назад

    Pipamoka lid is not cool

  • @docNICU
    @docNICU Год назад

    I am disappointed by nanopresso, its a not breving coffe, i found fine pieces of powder coffee in the cup which is deficult to ingest. Its look like powder coffe dissolved in water.

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад

      Im sorry to hear that. I’ve honestly never had that happen. Maybe some of the particles in your grind are too fine?

  • @stan4620
    @stan4620 Год назад

    Does the exagrind work well with filter coffee?

    • @BrodieVissers
      @BrodieVissers  Год назад +1

      I’ll be honest, it’s better with espresso. I hope they can make some options to adapt better for filter soon, but yes it still can work

  • @AdaptivePrep
    @AdaptivePrep 7 месяцев назад

    The cupamoka only brews "15grams"?? Brodie, as an ambassador for Wacaco - you may want to check that info. It brews more than that, and you can dial it in for much more than that as well. I realize it's an older *(1yr) video, but yeah....

  • @error.418
    @error.418 Год назад

    nespresso capsules? ew, nooooo, that stale junk is not worth putting through these nice brewers

  • @jasongargiulo3984
    @jasongargiulo3984 Год назад +4

    This is EVERYTHING that is wrong in society today. Dear God 🤦🏼‍♂️. I’m still wondering if it’s a spoof video……

    • @tubecated_development
      @tubecated_development Год назад

      Why do you hate capitalism and consumerism?

    • @jasongargiulo3984
      @jasongargiulo3984 Год назад +1

      @@tubecated_development Are your children called Tarquin and Petunia?

    • @tubecated_development
      @tubecated_development Год назад

      @@jasongargiulo3984No answer from you.

    • @pancakefingers2889
      @pancakefingers2889 10 месяцев назад +5

      😂😂 if this annoys you maybe you should just stay off the internet

    • @tubecated_development
      @tubecated_development 10 месяцев назад

      @@pancakefingers2889 it’s pretty sad really. The Internet is turning people into asocial/antisocial bots who are replacing life experience with recycled and tired stereotypes. Full disclosure: I like an espresso so now I’m supposed to be an upper-middle class lush stereotype with ‘appropriate’ kids? What the OP didn’t consider is that my wife and I are old, working class, childless (ovarian cancer), both crippled with various ailments and struggling financially, mentally and physically while still doing our best to support both dying and disabled parents (cancer, diabetes, arthritis). We sold a piece of inherited furniture to afford this £50 espresso-maker to help us enjoy our walking trips and occasional days out. (We can’t afford ‘holidays’ so walk or drive from home instead).
      If we didn’t have the coffee maker it would cost £6 a go for two bad/shitty coffees from dispensers at service stations. We couldn’t afford that without ditching the broadband budget (which would buy us four service station coffees a month). I guess the OP would say that our being old and struggling but drinking coffee is ‘everything wrong with society today’! Great! Suggest me some better options I say.
      What do you say, ‘Jason’? Why is what we do worse than the worst murderers, r*pists, abusers, liars and thieves and internet-twatz in society today?