Batman Forever | An Underrated Blockbuster
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Batman Forever | An Underrated Blockbuster. It's an underrated gem. Batman Forever was a good movie. A little corny? Sure. It was trying to be lighter. But it gets lumped in with Batman and Robin too much. On its own, it had the potential to be part of a better on going series. Sit back, relax, grab a bat bag of popcorn, and let's take a look at the underrated Batman Forever.
🙏 PATREON: / scottydunn
☕ Donate to My PayPal: www.paypal.com...
👕 Merch: www.DunnitFilm...
🐦 Twitter: / mandaomovie
RECORDING:
- My Hard Drive: amzn.to/3UNwqzl
- My Voice Over Mic: amzn.to/44LJj1a
- My Lav Mic: amzn.to/3wQYf1v
- My Microphone Arm: amzn.to/4dNHncU
- My Lighting Kit: amzn.to/3WICSKs
OTHER PRODUCTS I LIKE:
- Fiverr Marketplace: go.fiverr.com/...
- Amazon store: amzn.to/3Kmf8o5
#batmanforever #batman #dc #videoessay #valkilmer #jimcarrey #joelschumacher #makingof #scottydunn
I love Batman Forever and I think Kilmer made a great Bruce.
Yeah he was good!
@@ScottyDunn he was good but stiff and kind of boring
Fax.
Just watched this movie again last night for the first time in years. I can confidently say now as a 22 year old, that this movie is great. Reminds me of a live action movie of Batman the animated series. Although the movie might not be a masterpiece like the dark knight, I feel like it definitely captures who batman is amazingly
Actually Tommy Lee Jones played an over the top character in the movie "Natural Born Killers" the year before "Batman Forever"
Totally underrated, I love the movie. It's dark and fun but not as silly as Batman and Robin. I think it captured a comic book feel really well and was so entertaining. And the soundtrack was awesome!
I came to be ridiculed every time I said my favorite Batman was Val Kilmer in forever but it was just such a great movie for my 11 or 12 year old self and I thought he was flawless! Admittedly, I’ve changed my mind to it being Keaton but Kilmer is a close second for me!
Exactly! It’s especially nostalgic to people who grew up with it. The hype was big at the time and it brings back the good vibes when watching it.
“Just Laura” you & I must be the same age? 1985? I was the same age when forever was released, but preferred Burton’s darker take, IMHO…
Kilmer is all time greatest. nobody will top him
Yes! Finally! Someone will be talking about this movie properly! Val Kilmer's batman performance is still my favourite batman on the screens and this movie (although not a masterpiece) is just criminally underrated in my eyes. For years people have assumed it is terrible when in reality that is far from the case!
Exactly, it is criminally underrated! We all know it's not perfect but it gets some unfair hate.
Batman Forever is such a fun movie. As far as I like '89 and Returns, watching Forever right after just breathes of fresh air of the Looney Tunes goofiness while also being serious in tone. Also Chase was like a Bond girl in this film I mean that scene of her falling from the tube kinda says it all for her.
So much fun! Yeah it’s a trip seeing the shift in color from Returns to to Forever.
It's an interesting film. Interesting to hear a younger person's perspective.
The first Michael Keaton batman film was my first batman film in theaters. Returns in drive in and saw the rest as rentals.
To add more evidence this is a sequel...Robin is wearing Keatons gloves!!!
Nice! I hadn’t noticed until now.
Loved it as a kid. As I got older it faded into my memory and I lumped it in with Batman and Robin as an epic turd. But when I finally rewatched Forever I was struck by how much I loved it. Nostalgia does play a factor, but nostalgia isn't a bad word. EVERYONE is ruled by nostalgia in one way or another when it comes to the media they love. And if they say they aren't, they're lying.
Despite the well known fact that the deeper character work of Bruce was trimmed and cut out for the theatrical release, it still retains a decent angle on Bruce as a character and the Robin story is actually well done.
Forever still stands and an absolute testament to when studio franchise filmmaking could still have bold, creative identity. This thing is a pop art juggernaut of lavish, neon soaked goth excess. Miniatures, nascent but still well executed CGI, costumes, set pieces...it's all big and bold and dripping with style.
Live action comic book films today WOULD NEVER.
Well said. It definitely has a bold creative identity. I want more of that in current movies.
It was beginning of the end as soon as they sign that coloring book Director!
I loved Kilmers Batman and the movie. More than 89s Batman no, more than returns, absolutely. It's also one of my favorite memories with my mom when she took me to see it and made my birthday party Batman Forever themed
Love that you had a Batman Forever themed birthday party!
@@ScottyDunn It was the shit. Got the bat boat, batmobile, figures. Even the cake was Batman Forever. Good memories
Heck yeah. The bat boat was awesome!
Val Kilmer would later tell this story about how Warren Buffett one day, visited the Batman Forever set with his grandkids but never acknowledged him once. And Val was even wearing the Batsuit and yet, the Buffett grandchildren were more interested in playing around with the Batmobile and what not.
I read about that as well. Must’ve been discouraging for Val.
Actually, that is not the version I heard him tell. What he did say quite clearly was that when young kids did visit the set they were often in awe and stood in a trance on seeing Val in the Bat suit and quite unable to speak. The truth is from my own experience working as a crew member in television and film production, in general, the public never know quite how to react when they encounter an actor on set, be they famous or otherwise. They are usually too self-conscious or embarrassed to say or do anything at all.
It’s crazy he recorded this film same time he recorded heat looking back at it now 2 classic films
12:12: There are unconfirmed rumors that Val Kilmer had an affair with Drew Barrymore, who played one of Two-Face's molls, Sugar. And that was allegedly, the ultimate or final impetuous for his wife to file for divorce.
Never head this before, interesting.
My favorite character from this movie is the wild over acted Bank Security guy who happens to had a convenient hearing aid. “Oh no, it’s boiling acid!”
I love that guy. I feel like it’s the same guy who screams “Batman! Ahh!” When Batman crashes through the roof at Riddlers party.
That actor's name is Joe Grifasi in case you're wondering.
Hey, that's my hearing aid !
What I like about Forever is that it went deeper into Bruce's psyche than Burton ever did. It showed his trauma and dared to ask why he would dress up as Batman. While it may not be a masterpiece, it is currently my third favorite Batman movie after The Batman and Batman Begins.
💯 percent.
@divinelightshine Your opinion? pathetic
for whatever reason I still have a soft spot for batman forever. little dark and little campy. I was in elementary school at the time I saw the flick. I still like the movie and still like the soundtrack.
Couldn’t agree more.
I’m glad Val Kilmer is one my top favorite Batman. He nails both roles as Batman and Bruce, his voice is Kevin conroy like amazing, and he does better martial arts than keaton’s and Bale’s Batman.
I agree, forever has it goofs and is inferior to Returns... but it's fine, even good.
This film is my favorite of the original four. The tone and characters were perfect for the story, and I felt totally immersed in the world that Schumacher and company attempted to create.
Loved batman forever and val kilmer is my favourite batman
7:59 - Those Batman Forever "ice mugs" were awesome, I have three sets and still use them!
I love those things. Cheers to having 3 sets!
I've actually read somewhere that, aside from sayin' "I don't understand why everything has to be so dark and sad", Schumacher was also a fan of the 1966 "Batman" TV show, starring the late Adam West. And since the studio decided for a lighter tone, he probably decided to pay a tribute to that 1966 show.
However, even if I'm certainly not a huge comic book reader, I also have to give him credit for bringin' on the big screen a VERY accurate origin story for Dick Grayson's Robin
It’s interesting that Robin hasn’t returned to the big screen since Batman and Robin in 97. I enjoyed Robin in Forever.
@@ScottyDunn Not on the big screen. But remember that Robin (played by Brenton Thwaites this time) is part of Netflix show "Titans"
I have been a Batman fan since as far back as I can remember
My Nana took my to Blockbuster video when I was 8 because Adam west was doing a Blockbuster tour signing autographs and he was so nice
The Dark Knight is my favorite Batman movie, it’s perfect IMO
My next favorite would be Rises followed by Begins
But at my number 4 I would put Forever I prefer it over the Burton films and definitely prefer it over the most recent Matt Reeves made film.
Batman Forever has always been underrated.
I agree with u I never understood the hate this movie got I maybe by myself on this but I loved jin Carrey as the riddler
Jim Carrey basically stole the show in my opinion.
Great video! I've loved Batman Forever since I was a kid.Its definitely better than people make it out to be. I recommend the novelization by Peter David. It adds more to the characters and has moments not shown in the final film.
Thanks Ethan! I’ll have to check out the novelization. I think I’ve actually got it in storage somewhere.
Val Kilmer was a better Bruce Wayne than Christian Bale even
Val is awesome
Excellent video and well said, i pretty much agree on everything . Keep up the good work imma share and subscribe. Much love ! #releasetheshumachercut
Thank you so much! 🙏
I was 17, my memories are 1989 the first Blockbuster hit with Keaton.
Sooo good Scotty. Trip down memory lane.
Thanks James! It was fun going down memory lane as well.
We are exactly the same age and I totally agree. I however didn't have such discerning parents. My dad took me to Returns and I loved it, also got the happy meal toys and a bunch of action figures from Returns. You can imagine I was stoked for Batman Forever and my little 8 year old self loved it. Also went to Batman and Robin and honestly I hated it even as a 10 year old lol
I love all the Batman stuff from West, keaton, Conroy, Kilmer, Clooney.
I loved Batman Forever. While Batman89 is still the pinnacle for me as far as Batman goes. Forever is still a fun watch in my 30s. I find myself putting it on in the background just to have something fun to watch. Batman89 is more when I need inspiration to work on a film.
As far as the sequel debate goes...it is a straight up sequel to Batman and Batman Returns. For all intents and purposes, it is Batman 3. This movie was made before reboots where done on a regular basis. While many now don't consider them a sequel, in 1995 it was.
Yeah it’s definitely a sequel to the Burton films, can’t be denied. Things really didn’t go off the rails until Batman and Robin which… woo boy I can’t wait to make a video on that. I agree wi the you about Batman 89. It’s still my favorite one as well.
I feel like forever is very different from the first 2 I feel like most ppl treat it that way....doesn't feel like a sequel to me rather a new lighter and campier vision which some ppl clearly like but wasn't my taste
People often say Kilmer is a better Bruce than a Batman. I have had issues with all actors who have played Batman for one reason or another. Bale’s growl was jarring and made it seem like he was playing a character instead of being Batman. Batfleck look and sounded the part, but lacked depth or complexity. Pattinson… he is a Robin, not a Batman, even his Twilight costar Kellen looks more like a Batman. Keaton was first but didn’t really standout except for “you wanna get nuts? Let’s get nuts! Come on!” Kilmer had the physique, the chin, the voice, the stare, psychological torment, the duality, the sex appeal, and intellectual cadence. The movie was goofy but it was the 90s where other superhero films included the very neon Spawn, Steel, and Starkid.
I think we all must get the lyrics to Kiss From a Rose wrong - I always thought it was "kissed by a rose on the grave" but it's grey, which is so not as good in my opinion
Nicole Kidman acted like a horny nymph
Val Kilmer had the right tone as batman
Jim Carrey is jim carrey
Chris o donnell who now
Tommy lee jones ok he’s batshit crazy
Batman forever is a dark flim and considering it’s a Tim Burton production you can tell it has his style in it by the time B and R came out it was pure Joel
I'm definitely team Carrey!
There’s definitely more going on in Returns (1992), creatively, than in Batman Forever (1995)… More to appreciate from an artistic and filmic level… Which isn’t to say Batman Forever (1995) lacks those qualities, it just happens to be more enjoyable as well. That’s what it comes down to sometimes. Entertainment value. I prefer it to Returns (1992).
10:19: Billy Dee Williams has attempted to debunk the reports that he had a "pay or play" clause in his deal, which can be found here: ruclips.net/video/O1NXl4C9Bzs/видео.html To make a long story short, unlike his deal with Star Wars, in which he was always going to do two movies (The Empire Strikes Back and then, Return of the Jedi), Billy Dee in his own words, was only signed to do Batman 1989.
Nice thanks for this clip!
I like this film. It had no more humor-and actually more properly timed humor-than the cheesy Marvel films made today. And it’s special effects were probably better, too
how do you know when something isn't underrated when everyone keeps calling it underrated and now I'm expecting some whiny replies
I don't really care about the alleged shanangans that are 'reported' to have gone on backstage. All that counts is what is on screen. As for the cuts that appear to have come at a later date, the print I saw in a huge cinema at Marble Arch in London had every single scene in tact. So as far as I am concerned, the film has never been underrated by me at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.
I just wanted to leave a comment to feed the algorithm.
Thank you good sir, the algorithm is pleased 😎
I will go as far as to say it was better than Batman begins
Batman forever is my favorite batman movie from the 90s despite for a few nitpicks and yet I'm still waiting for the Schumacher cut of the film.
I’d love to see the Schumacher cut as well.
@@ScottyDunn cool, and I hope it will happen.
The only good part of this movie was when they played U2 and Seal during the credits.
I think you’re wrong about TLJ as two face. I really like what they did with it and I think he did a great job..
Val Vs Joel
Tommy Vs Jim
That’s Seems Chaotic
You Should watch The Red Book Edition, it's a fan made cut of the film with some of the deleted scenes cut back into the film and a lot of the more silly parts of the film cut down. The film is so much closer to the Tim Burton films and Joel Schumacher's original vision for the film.
I want to see this. Where is available?
@@ScottyDunna guy promo here in RUclips. But instead is better support this #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut.
I love this movie i had the toy car from this movie it was awesome
Wish we got a real sequel & not Clooney 🤣
Same. Could've been good!
@@ScottyDunnyeah it would of still grateful for Heath Ledger & Affleck tho
Why did they recast it so soon after, it's weird. Maybe Val wasn't interested
@@jj-if6it they were mad Val was working on The Saint & recasted him 😪👎
@@Epgnz damn
I love this movie, but I’ll never forgive how they portray Harvey Dent. TLJ was made for that role. A perfect serious actor for a serious character, and they made him goofy. At least Jim Carrey is a comedian. Imagine if like Kevin Spacey played The Riddler and gave this goofy performance.
There’s probably a dimension where Kevin Spacey did Batman Forever instead of Se7en.
Yeah I know! What an absolutely wasted opportunity. Jones could’ve given an amazing performance. Instead we got a bad joker impression.
Heath Ledger is the only reason Batman Forever is not the best Batman movie
#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
💯Do it!
But what is the movie about again lol
I really like batman forever, just not as much the tim burton movies. It's all good though we like what we like.
For sure. Don’t get me wrong, Batman 89 is my favorite of that era. But I have a major nostalgic soft spot for Forever.
Anyone who likes this movie is suspect as a human being
I take you seriously…
Not even as a kid I liked this piece of crap. And I still don´t like it. 3 times I have tried and failed. It´s not even amusing bad, it´s just boring, idiotic, dumpster fire bad. Already seeing the lame, predictable comments: "such an underrated movie!" Can´t believe how people´s sense of reality is so easy to manipulate. If I had some more subs and would make a video about how turds eating is so underrated, I would get the same comments: "yes, finally some says it, turds flavor is so underrated, had my first at age 5 and loving them since!" Argh! Always the same, sheeps all over the place.
I like the movie, it's very entertaining. I don't care what anyone thinks? Now Batman & Robin on the other hand is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Just cause you have a different opinion doesn't mean you're right btw
Its not underrated ist garbage 🗑️
It’s…alright. But my take is Carrey was BRUTAL & over the top. Impossible to watch his scenes without noticing the hideous overacting.