What's so special about new Russian tanks? T-90M & T-80BVM tank review
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2018
- Everything you need to know about new Russian tanks revealed last year, T-90M and T-80BVM
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"T-90 Standard Tank" by Steven J. Zaloga
www.thalesgroup.com/sites/def... - Catherine FC
www.thalesgroup.com/sites/def... - Catherine XP
btvtinfo.blogspot.rs/2017/09/b... - Dubler sight
bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/T-72... - Hawkeye has Catherine XP
tass.com/defense/987833 - T-90M order and deliver date
www.niistali.ru/products/nauka... - Relikt
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NOTE: In the documentary from Telekanal Zvezda about the T-90M tank it has been said that the side skirts do in fact have ERA blocks, and more and more sources emerge confirming that they do have ERA
@MY ZQUAD IZ GODZILLA’z ??
Did you know that the thermal imaging system is from a western company?
Arved Ludwig Yes he knows he said it’s from Thales and it’s a French armement company
There are relict elements
You should less listen to Zvyzda
..And to those who are speaking in the comment section saying that one tank is automatically better and would smash the other; tank warfare isn't just about the equipment. Better tactics and training always can trump equipment. Even older out of date tanks can defeat newer more modern tanks if their tactics are sound. Even a T-55A could penetrate rear of M1A2 Abrams in ideal ambush. Point is combat is more than just stat numbers.
Condidering US Tanks would all become pillboxes by Russian EW, T-55's would easily be used for "mop up".
It amuses me when people start talking about US vs Russian weapons and they don't consider nuclear weapons as part of equation. There is movie from late 80's "The day after" Soviets attacked and NATO launched nuclear weapons on their ground forces. It really doesn't matter how good equipped is your infantry if they got hit by nuclear weapons. Hundreds of thousands of soldiers are in open. Thy would simply die without any chance to survive. Same goes both ways. Tactical nuclear weapons would prevent both sides from gaining any advantage on battlefield.
@@zpetar I'm pretty sure Russia has the most ready tactical nukes as well
@@DavidWatersJames go spread your propaganda elsewhere
@@zpetar As you noticed, tactical nuclear use entails strategic nuclear use.
Find any Red Effect video on Russian tanks, go to comments, Sort by New, sit back and watch them go ham
The T-90M/MS sounds amazing. The crew protection seems tremendously well engineered.
Still a hit to the autolader kill the whole crew.
Maverick86 Well, only a direct hit because of an armoured carousel. Which is much harder now considering the improved frontal protection
@@tankman6930 the armore will probably not protect against most modern projectiles at 2km
The base armore probably couldn't be increased to a whole new level if they are also upgrading older tanks to the T-90M Standart.
The T-14 Armata still is way better, but also way more expensive.
@@Tankliker the new t90m variant can protect itself from modern apdfs, finally comparable to modern western tank stnadards, although still not as amazing like them. And yes, Russia intends to upgrade all the T90A to T90m standard. This is because T90m is designed as a "tweaking" of T90A body. So that is the reason why T90A can be modified. Actually, the armoured carousel already exists in t90a, but not as good as t90m ofc. When 30 T90M was being produced, 10 of them were factory made while the other 20 was made by upgrading T90A. However, I am not sure if T90 can be upgraded to T90M since the jump is huge. Russia says " they will upgrade all the T90 tanks to T90M standards."
@@zayden4309 no? modern apfsds like m829a4 and dm73 were made to go through morder modern era like relikt, so probs can go through t90m like butter.
The new T-80BV is likely going to be put to use with the Naval Infantry armour battalion. When I did 5 years in the Naval Infantry, we had mostly T-72's. We used to have PT-76's but I think they were all put into storage or sold off.
Where you in the Russian military? If so how was it?
I think they will go to norther regions, die to they superior ebgine for low temperstures.
What type of t 72s
Probably that and a shit load of bumerangs.
@@anushmikael2540 it depends when he served, if it was now it would likely be t-72b3m or b3 at least
*DID YOU FORGET THE...*
*RED EYES?*
That's the t 90a
Unfortunately
The red eyes can see the invisible. Maybe the Russian abandoned it because they've seen.... things..
@@dimitri_tsm "wait what's that white thing walking around" "RUN b*itch RUN!"
They are still fixed on a tank, they are just smaller now
this is one of those few channels that hit the thumbs up before even watching the video. Bravo again RE!
Thanks a lot!
Best weapons are those you never have to use!
I know it doesn't make sense, yet,it's like having a home defense AK or AR,nobody is crazy enough to test your resolve to use it!
Bravo paso
aged
As usual super informative and detailed :) 5/5
Thanks :D
Great video Red Effect. You are my new favorite tank info channel. Super informative, keep up the good work man!
when I hear "completely safe" I know where I am, and I feel... reinsured
This thing Is coming to War Thunder next update. Nice recomendation RUclips
I think the T-90MS is an outcome from the syrian war experience. They need to make the tank safe against threats in urban enviroments. Thats why the use the 360° field of view with independent commander sight and so on... The armor packages on the sides and rear of the tank are also important for the protection aspect. All that is a trend , which we can observe in all other nations too. That is a real important development in tank history.
Siegfried Mueller true and honest opinion,unlike some trolls
T-90MS was first revealed in 2011
mahesh padeniya Syrian war started in 2011 too
bullshit
he meant the T-90M
Tanks for watching! WD
I did a charcoal drawing of a t90 tank driving through a desert with a burning oil filled in the background.
It's hung up in my living room
Shtora is removed? NOOOO!
Turret ejection technology is getting seriously advanced 😮
Regarding the never ending discussion on automatic loader VS crew loader :
Keep in mind that a human loader get's tired while an automatic system doesn't.
After all I imagine handling those 120mm shells to be quite exausting. That's while the combat effectiveness of a manually loaded tank suffers over time in long battles
Moreover think going over 120mm is almost impossible with a human loader.
Great video by the way :)
well, they have reloaded kv-2 which iz a 152mm but it took ages to reload.. x3
It's about space, human loader requires more space to work. More space = bigger tank = heavier tank= need more armor, bigger engine and transmission, more fuel = costs lot more money.
Not that even with all the upgrades T90M is still 20 tonnes lighter than its NATO counterparts and costs about half of the price....
Can you post about the upgraded of T72B1 MS?
Finally putting myself re crew protection. Wonder how the engines deal with the new weight distribution
Can you do a video on the M1A2 SEP V3?
When I have enough info on it I will
RedEffect thank so much 👍
Just imagine if the Russkies brought all of their T-80 tanks (which ever version), to Ob'yekt 640 'Black Eagle' standard. Imagine that reincarnation, bristling with cutting edge tech of a tank guarding the Arctic =D
A zamisli to da mi u dalekoj budućnosti poboljšamo naš m84... Ma šta ja pričam, to će se samo u bajkama desiti.
@@thewaddlingduck4966 Neka, poslaće Putin višak T72 :)
@@thewaddlingduck4966 ❤️ М-84 АС1! Десило се братац, ДЕСИЛО СЕ! ;-) Извини што касним са одговором, тек сада сам случајно видео коментаре, свако добро и поздрав!
ruclips.net/video/HQC0hn1jlYw/видео.html
@@--X-- Још боље, таман и тај вишак да доведемо на АС1 стандард као и српску М-84 ❤️
@@StefanBlagojevic haha, nema veze, drago mi je da smo nasli resenje. Najbolji ERA placement koji sam video
Im kind of dissapointed. I was expecting some kind of inclusion of Armata tech into T-90M (it was rumored T-90M was to be equiped with 2A82 gun), or at least some version of ARENA.
It seems the T-90M is the same as T-90SM unveiled a couple years ago.
Including some Armata tech into it would have been too expensive, but yes T-90M practically is T-90SM
At least T-90M has its base armor improved or is it just an upgrade in the ERA area?
T-90M has the same armor as T-90A, only difference is implementation of Relikt package
RedEffect how come it doesn't have aps hard kill or new canon
As I said, it is too expensive, but Arena APS can be mounted on any Russian tank, but no tank has it in active service, the new gun is not mounted because current T-90A to T-90M upgrade does not require any gun change, so it is far cheaper and quicker to not implement the new gun, the gun of T-90M is good enough to deal with most threats.
When will they make a variant with side and rear composite armor Too? Its lighter than regular armor and does the same or more protection depending on the materials. Plus if you leave a little room you can still add ERA on top of it. I would be willing to sacrifice a little bit of speed for that.
Do these have crew killing breach closure problems like the T-72's?
Obviously best tank because of high tech, natural, extreme composite LOG side armor
7:35
That red flag at the bottom right is very similar to the ones used in DCS, IMO
While Aramid (para-aramid) armour makes sense to me, most English speakers know it only by its trade name of "Kevlar"... Or "Nomex" if you were talking about the fire resistant meta-Aramid.
Thank you!
New tanks coming left and right, god it's gorgeous, I love me some new bad ass tanks
Love how you say ERA
French Leclerc ; 2-forward gears, 8-reverse gears. Automatic White Flag system, (deploys when detects first loud noise). Speeds: 30km/h forward, 80km/h reverse. Combat Range: 120km (if inside France), 45km beyond French border.
David James I guess you’re always the funny one at parties/s
@@vassilistzaferis4277 I don't go to parties with drunken idiots. I actually use my time usefully. I do have my moments however.
The french have one of the most prestigious military's ever and its only fools morons and yanks that think otherwise if I remember correctly they won the American rebellion for the British colonials and created America and the cost of bankrupting France and causing a true revolution in their own country but then spawned a European empire and won many great battles and created the corps system they way all modern armies work now
That's true
The italian ariete is studied to neutral steer very fast, to hide you position to your allied and to connect with your enemy....
Another great video.
Curious to see the upgrades go to older T-80BVs and not later T-80Us, considering the latter has better base armor.
They decided to go with T-80BV because there are 3000 of them in stock
@@RedEffectChannel
Is it impossible for the Russians to install the AZ autoloader in the T-80?
What about T-80U tanks? Are they all stored or retired? No upgraded versions of those, instead of mostly obsolescent T-80BM?
T-80Us can hold their own even against modern tanks they are still soviet tanks from late 80s but they are highly advanced tanks while T-80BV are no match for modern ones so they upgrade them to bring them on par at least in firepower and protection rather than scraping them it is heard that T-80 production will restart after many years i hope they produce a new tank instead of a upgraded existing tank
This is a great channel 🤘🤘
nice and thanks for the video.
Are you sure for the autoloader protection on the t90m ? Because I read that somewhere (will try to find where) that the autoloader protection was only in the t90ms not in the t90m
SpookyTheCat T90M is basically on par with the MS model now.
I thought that the preview had two eyes from the shtora t-90 and for some reason was scared
tanks for watching ;P
Hope we will learn alot more about the T90M since one was captured.
Good video red.
What’s that music at the end tell or gulag
Since when does T-90A store ammo in turret?
8:56 @RedEffect What is the song at the end of this video? It's rather catchy. :)
Its just some free 8bit music, I think you can find it on YT
Cool Thanks.
I searched the for "free 8bit music) and over 100 songs came up on the playlist and it was not there. :/
Oh well.
M-84 AS1 review + ERA M19 armor on it review. Let's go! Come on!
Where's the explanation about the stalinium usage?
When I search proryv 3 there is also T-90MS
i saw the T-80 autoloader. it reloades the shell in 4 sec!. i am i wrong?
Depends on the position of the shell.
*make a video on Indian T-90 S tanks as they have components from France Israel’s and India* Also how indian T-90 M will be different from Russian
Do these tanks have proper reverse gear now?
great another tank added to the war thunder russian tech tree in the future
Please do a videa on Leclerc attempt 1
T-90M, second best tank in the world by looks.
but who is number 1?
Great video! How would T-90M compare to Leopard 2A7+?
T-90M is on the same level as Leo2A5, maybe 2A6 I think.
@@jem2779 are you idiot. We are gonna be realist. They are at the level of leo2a7. Dot be a Ignorant
@@ser43_OLDC bruh he does not even said leo2a7 LOL!
can someone correct me if I am wrong, the T90MS is the first Russian tank to get a CITV? and putting the ammo at the back of the turret with blast door make the T90MS much better in terms of survivability (in my opinion) than the lets say latest chinese tanks like type99a and VT4. This is one of the design I really like.
sorry and my second question is how do we classify second gen and third gen thermal viewer? how many tanks now have third gen CITV?? thanks.
first generation thermal imagers are referred to have basically only one larger detector, with a mechanical scan creating a "2D" image
second generation thermal imagers already have a few dozen detector elements, and their mechanical scanner can also create "deeper" images
the third generation devices have a two dimentional arrays of detectors and usually have way higher resolutions. Some 3rd generation modules also don't have to use any scanning mech at all
HOW MANY TANK AND JET VERIANTS DOES RUSSIA HAVE ?!?!
I swear it feels like they have a brand new tank ever week or i find out that they have something that i hadnt discovered yet. So hard to keep up with.
Hmmm worrying lack of Abrams fanboys in the comment section...
They were scared off by actual facts and an unbiased review of a Russian tank. :P
^Another "all Russian tanks are crap because Russia sucks" idiot. Proves how little you actually know.
Israel; T-62s (a VERY old tank now) were found to be more than a match for M-60s and 105mm armed Israeli Centurions. Iran-Iraq war; T-72M1s butchered British Chieftain tanks. Chechen wars; tanks were found to be vulnerable to urban ambush (but that's not new, and applies to everyone.)
T-72's no match for any allied vehicle? OK. I'm done. Its confirmed, you are an idiot fool who knows nothing of Russian tanks.
Nope. Go actually research the tank. You'll find it was mostly superior to anything NATO had that wasn't a Leopard 2, Challenger Mk.1 or an Abrams. Event those tanks early tungsten sabot rounds would have struggled with a T-72A's turret at longer ranges (+750m) The T-72Bs turret had the Soviet equivalent to Chobham armor and was far tougher. In addition; the early 120mm HEAT rounds available in the 1980's for the L44 were not powerful enough to penetrate either tanks frontal turret cheeks. They tested this on acquired East German T-72As after the iron curtain collapsed in the 1990's.
I prefer proper infantry support to the tanks but the upgrades are good
Nice.
What is his reverse speed?
Great video!I've never understand how they could simply abandon 3000+ T-80s already in reserve!
Do these T-80 versions all have remotely controlled 12.7mm MG?
Will any of the T-90s or T-80s or BMP-3s feature Arena APS?
No, T-80BVM doesn't have remote MG, it's a common misconception, only T-80 variants with remote MG are T-80UD and T-80UE. There is no information on Arena being implemented on any tank in active service
Too bad they didn't allow tank commander to use the HMG from inside and not implementing any "hard kill" system is strange since Russia pioneered them...
Hard kill is too expensive for mass production, it is implemented on T-14 but T-14 is already a premium tank. But that does not mean they will never mount Arena on the new tanks, since Arena was designed to be universal for Russian tanks.
Thank you!Also it's good that the army decided to incorporate BMPT vehicles cause I see them as very useful!Back in 1991 during the battle of Vukovar we lost 100+ tanks & other armor due to lack of infantry support but lightly armored SPAAGs had more success!
I am not sure if you are familiar with these events, but anyway, what do you think about BMPT?
BMPT is excellent, it is designed to take on everything, even Attack Helicopters, two 30mm autocannons, 4 ATGMs and armor of a tank
How are they going now ? Battlefield outcomes seem quite poor. Tank or strategy ?
Crew with bad training
Only 6 (out of 200) have been destroyed
while no tank is perfect, there is no denying that some inexperienced crew is most definitely prevalent in a few russian tanks
Anyone know what those little square plates are on the front of the side skirts on the -90As? It's killing me as I can't figure it out.
Explosive Reactive Armor plates
Kontakt 5 ERA
Looks like i have to save money again
I have a soft spot for T-80 for some reason
Am I right in saying that you can buy a batch of t72s... buy new turrets and upgrade kits and turn them into t90m ... and if so.. how much for the turrets etc. . As you can get a full t72 for about 100k usd in spanking new condition ..
It's basically possible to upgrade any T-72 as long as the upgrade kits exist. But to be honest, I see no way a T-72 can be upgraded to a level, equal to a T-90MS or T-90M.
Just imagine how huge a T-90M upgrade kit is! And it's definitely not a cheap one. Well and then there's the fact that T-90M is meant for Russia only so I doubt that there will be any "T-90M upgrade kit" for any export tank variant in the future.
@@dmitrit.4862 you see the main issue is politics.. not technology... USA likes to screw with philippines denying them useful kit in quantity.. whilst scrapping perfectly good up armoured humvee by the hundred.... also blocking countries like Israel from selling off upgraded f16 purely to promote use of their own expensive options... usa kit is good.. but cost to bulk buy and political strings attached are bad.. very very bad...
Trade sanctions are imposed to promote domestic power rather than cause any real harm to russia.
Philippines is in very real danger of being rolled up... provision of real military equipment at all levels must take asap as the danger is only increasing at a very rapid pace...
Purchase and use in training dash minor opps of very basic t72 from former operators can not be realistically blocked....
A stock of such vehicles will provide a depth against parts and attrition issues. ..
India upgrading these.. in batches would be very little to do with sanctions... and certainly a whole lot less issue creating than the russian navy swinging into port and dropping off a dozen t90m maybe even a few armata... perhaps with instructors and suitable support staff...
@@blogsblogs2348 Yeah politics can be a pain in the ass but then again, no legal arms deal is done without politics. But then again, there's no way to make a (legal!) arms deal without politics.
I came across an article from the South Chinese Morning Post. It seems like Russia is ready to help the Philippines to produce their own small arms, for civilian and military use. (Source: www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3034460/russia-offers-arms-technology-philippines-no-conditions-us-ties ) That's not much but it's definitely a start. Hope it'll work out well.
Tanks on the other hand...that's more difficult.
T-14? Forget it! The only T-14 tanks the world will see for the next 5-15 years will be the ones that serve in Russia. I haven't read anything about planned export variants. Same goes to T-90M which is made for Russia only. Other nations can purchase the T-90MS which is the export variant. Those cost around 4.5 Million USD each. The good thing is, there's no upgrading etc. necessary. And 4.5 Mil USD isn't that much for one modern MBT. And believe me, sanctions or not, Russia can sell weapons to pretty much every nation they see as a trustworthy partner. Who'll stop them from doing it? Those maggots from the EU? The US? Russia doesn't care and that's good.
@@dmitrit.4862 Unfortunately the sanctions would be imposed on the philippines if any direct sales were made.. hence round about.. progressive increase etc... if philippines is subject to sanctions it's game over.. and you might as well hand china the keys....
The t90m dash t14s I mentioned were those with instructors .. wink wink.. and support staff.. ahem... maybe they could set up next to the new US humvee camps.. for which they aren't even paying rent this time...
If the philippines had serious financial capacity that would be a different matter.. Unfortunately. . Not only are they strapped for cash.. but the usa doesn't realise that they are a bit too proud to ask for the sort of help they seriously need.. and this is not helped by a strange definition of the term ally by the recent administrations...
If this was Israel. . There would be a fleet of strategic transports lifting in.. 5000 assorted vehicles and enough kit to equip half a dozen light divisions from deep reserves and that would be that.. China could go whistle... and USA would save a ton of money and lives in the long haul...
Unfortunately the philippines is not Israel and no one's going to go upfront and help a country that's viewed as the worlds domestic workers....
With Indonesia giving china the big middle finger a month ago.. it's likely that the philippines.. long viewed as the softest target will be getting a visit in the very near future.. not helped by having to redeploy a lot of units to the southern insurgency area..
Well the t90ms got the secured carrousel not the t90m if I remenber well
My god, why is your outro about 5x as loud as the rest of the video, apart from that, love your vids.
Every tank has it's strengths. The Leopard 2 has the most powerful gun, the Challenger has the greatest range and accuracy for its gun, the Abrams has the best armour, the T90 is the most mobile. The Leclerc goes the fastest in reverse.
+Curtis Waters
Most powerful gun how? Range and accuracy? As compared to what? There is no such thing as best in such a vague setting, not to mention the fact the M1 has two types, one of which with three generations of armor protection. Mobile as compared to what?
Curtis Waters I thought smooth bore is superior to rifled. Also Russian tanks fire atgm so their gun is technically more accurate
Western tanks can also fire ATGM's. The Challenger II's gun is typically the most accurate, and it also holds the record for longest kill at 7km, without an ATGM. Smoothbore has the benefit of using APFSDS ammunition.
+Curtis Waters
Not even close. The _Challenger I_ has that record. And it's at 4.7km. (2.9mi.).
Nathan Peterson and also the Crew admitted it was pure luck
But can they fire the new Vacuüm-1 and 2 apfsds?
nope, it still use 2A46M-5 gun
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Soo isnt better for them to make upgrade for t80u over bv?
Is there some kind of upgraded t80u or did they just upgraded t80bv's to bvm?
Yes it is better, but there are not nearly as many T-80U tanks as T-80BV tanks, there have been updates to T-80U, T-80UE-1 being the newest variant from 2005 features new gun and FCS along with some engine upgrades. Only difference between T-80BVM and T-80UE-1 is protection, T-80UE-1 has better base armor (much better) but has old Kontakt-5 ERA, T-80BVM has old armor but has new Relikt ERA, when you look at it, they are pretty similar in protection, but T-80BVM has much better HEAT protection while T-80UE-1 has better APFSDS protection because the armor behind ERA is more modern with ceramic and steel plate inserts in the cast turret cavity.
RedEffect yeah sure.
Ty for answer..
One more q.
About new russian shell
Vacuum 1 was it?
Does it have better pen than its western counterparts and how much pen it has if there is info about that round?
A think there is vacuum 2 too but not sure..
Yes there is info on it, from Tula confirmed penetration is 900mm at 2km which is, based on what we know, better than current western projectiles. And yes there is Vacuum-2 APFSDS but it is tungsten variant of Vacuum-1 which is DU, and because of that it is slightly inferior to Vacuum-1. It is in modern Russian practice to make a tungsten variant of original DU, like Svinets-1/2 I don't know they do it tho
RedEffect but isnt tungsten stronger than DU?i am not sure but i think brits changed DU for tungsten in challys cause its better material?
I think DU is cheaper right?
It is stronger material by nature, but when it comes to penetrating DU is superior. There is a thing called sharpening effect which greatly enhances penetration, but the problem is that tungsten needs to travel 2000m/s to achieve that effect but so far there is no single APFSDS that reached that speed, for DU it is way less, that is why, for example M829A3 which is DU has very similar performance to DM53/63 (fired from L55) although having muzzle velocity of 1555m/s compared to DM53/63 that has over 1800m/s. Another thing is that because of sharpening effect DU melts and the damage done to the interior of the tank is much more devastating compared to tungsten.
0:28 unmanned or remote controlled
I have seen so many red effect videos I think I know how to design a tank
Guys take popcorn and look at the spectacle between those who defend the Abrams and the leopards. And those who defend the t80 t90 and t14.
What? No Robot voice?
Yes please!
Russian T-90M tanks use the own produced Irbis-K more powerful and advance than Thales katerine thermal sight.
I heard somewhere that the RHA of the T72B turret against APFSDS is 690mm while the US APFSDS ammo developed to counter the Kontact-5 was of 730mm penetration, so with the supposed better armor of the T90A/T90M turrett plus the minimal but present protection on these ERA blocks would this ammo be stopped by the armor?
The RHAe of T-72B vs APFSDS is 530mm without Kontakt-5. I don't know what does that have to do with T-90M, since it has completely different turret. Official information from UVZ states that together with Relikt it has over 800mm RHAe and also states that it can sustain fire from modern APFSDS such as US M829A3
RedEffect so the front turret of the T90M can sustain fire from a Modern APFSDS, but what about the T80BVM? And does the front glacis of the T90M and T80BVM have ERA kits like the T72B3? And if it has which ones is it?
As I said in the video, some experts believe T-80BVM can not sustain a hit from modern APFSDS and if it can, it would be from a distance.
T-90M and T-80BVM have Relikt ERA while T-72B3 has Kontakt-5 ERA, T-72B3 definitely can not sustain a hit from a modern APFSDS.
RedEffect also the T72B3M has relict as the front turret armor or just as these blocks on the side of the turret
T-72B3M has no Relikt on the front, the blocks on turrets side are most probably 4S24 blocks so T-72B3M does not have Relikt at all
Ok so the way I see it the T80BVM is probably a pretty good idea. T80BVM is going to be a fast and maneuverable alternative to the less mobile T90A or T90M, and it will also cost less than T90M because much less work is put into the modernization while still putting in necessary features like 2nd gen thermal and the modern auto loader. The lack of CITV may be a problem, but M1A1 did very well in the gulf spotting targets at over 2 km without CITV and communication between units with CITV and without could offset the disadvantage. Also, I'm pretty sure Russia has a LOT of T80BVs because the soviet union wanted it to become their main MBT, but I could be wrong about that.
If APDS rounds are so good how come all tanks dont just use those when engaging other tanks? Sorry I do t know tanks very well.
Maybe they would. But if you check recent conflicts, RPGs (and alike) are often used against tanks. Of course, it all depends on the conflict.
I want to redeffect favourite tank of all time?
beautiful tank.
Did the BVM at least get protected ammo storage for the auto loader rack like the T90 she needs blast doors and same optics of T90m to fight Western tanks bet she would take more losses compared to T90m
T-80BVM is the equivalent of T-72B3, modernization for minimal costs. In the future, they will be upgraded to T-80UA-1 with welded towers, like the T-90M analog
The Japanese empire flag at the end of the video is a bit questionable
minus one new t90m destroyed
Maby next time m26 pershing vs tiger 1
2:05 Was this really done because Russian research found or because the foreigners have been telling Russia since the Gulf War that Russian tanks go pop as a result of the ammo getting detonated and destroying the tank and the crew?
I worked for company on prototypes and R&D of the XM 1 or M1's tank developments in 70's with info from ? I'm glad you say we don't know , But we do know, But should not say we know ....LOL 🇺🇸
i guess you were around in your late 30s when the m1 project started? so you are 80 years old now?
@@yopiee8342 Your could be correct if you know what your talking about. Take another hit stooge....
Why is it called T-90M and T-90S and T-90 MS which one is the correct name!?
T-90M is Russian designation of the domestic variant. T-90MS is export variant of T-90M, letter S in a name of a Russian tank indicates it is an export variant, T-90S is export variant of older T-90
RedEffect thanks alot sir.
The problem with the T80 and all it's variants is they are built on a very old hull design. The T14 is a step in the right direction, for many reasons.
t80 problem is also gas turbine... but no of course there are some problems with old hulls like 2 piece ammo that i doubt can be changed i mean armata keeps that one anyway... t14 might be a step too far so not the best anyway
@@jebise1126 Perhaps a step too far for Russia at this time. However, western tank producers could make the concept work. The automation, unmanned turret and advanced sensors, lends itself to being fully AI controlled at some time in the near future.
@@gusgone4527 russia made it work too... but they cant afford many. and neither could west powers. if russian version costs 5 million western would cost 15 maybe 20 million per piece. so no they would not be able to afford it
@@jebise1126 Abrams and Challenger 3 cost roughly $8 or 9 million. AMX-56 Leclerc $12.6 Million. A new future tank will cost approximately the same. Mass production would significantly bring the price down. Western nation can afford it, they already do.
Remember that R&D will be shared among two or more nations. A fully automated tank with just three or even two crew members, will be smaller and cheaper by design.
@@gusgone4527 no. armata is few times more expensive than t90 the same would go for such tank in west.
surprising to me that france would allow Thales to sell russia the thermal sights
T90M and T90MS same tank?
No
I think T90M is the russian army version while the T90MS is the export one
What the difference between T-90AM & T-90M ?
There is no difference, tank was supposed to be named T-90AM to indicate that it is an upgrade for existing T-90A tanks, but since on top of upgrades new units will be made from scratch they simply named it T-90M
RedEffect Ok, thanks
Tactical log at its service :)
After watching this, I wish Cambodia government will buy a new T90M to replace Old but experienced T55/54.
Are the exposed sights and imaging systems bullet proof? Cause they are just asking to get shot.
They do have backup sights tho, idk that but could be
I fucking love that introooo
boah , that loud sound at the end.... :-((