Perfect review. Numbers and visuals speak the loudest when you can’t taste the brew from either of them. Truly helps in making my decision to buy either. THANK GOD IM BILINGUAL.
@@jeffgrayum acidity and "amplifcation" in aroma, C40. M47, smooth and balanced cup. Anyway, what I realise about western reviewers is that they tend to "demonise" the M47 for pourovers. While it is absolutely true that the C40 has a slightly better grind for pourovers, the M47 isn't far behind. I bought the M47 Phoenix last week at a discount and it is spectacular coming from a trashy blade grinder. Good luck and have fun deciding!
@@reefqandi1736 c40 is 'much' faster at the finest setting according to his test. But c40 seems to have more coarse grinds in it compare to m47. See around 7min mark.
I think this is the top wanted video about manual grinders and you've done it visually and technically - just brilliant! It is very unfortunate that I can't understand a thing :( If you could use google translate to write in the description which one you've decided to keep for yourself. Or rephrasing the question, if you could have only one of them, which one would you peek after your testing? Thank you!
For people who want stronger aroma and acidity C40 is better For people who want more sweetness and smoother body Kinu m47 is a better choice If you sometime want more acidic coffee and sometime want more balanced coffee without modifying any brewing method/configuration, then just buy both.
@@TheChiou13 can you enable "cc" option? I saw one of your vdo have "cc" Option and I can select "Auto Translate" option to let RUclips translate your voice to English automatically.
鎖C40接粉杯方式真是屌爆了，讚👍
Perfect review. Numbers and visuals speak the loudest when you can’t taste the brew from either of them. Truly helps in making my decision to buy either. THANK GOD IM BILINGUAL.
Brandon Lee mind sharing the conclusion for us stupid folks? Which performed better?
@@jeffgrayum acidity and "amplifcation" in aroma, C40. M47, smooth and balanced cup.
Anyway, what I realise about western reviewers is that they tend to "demonise" the M47 for pourovers. While it is absolutely true that the C40 has a slightly better grind for pourovers, the M47 isn't far behind. I bought the M47 Phoenix last week at a discount and it is spectacular coming from a trashy blade grinder. Good luck and have fun deciding!
@@billyleecw which one is the best for espresso based on the video?which one are the fastest to grind beans for espresso?
@@reefqandi1736 c40 is 'much' faster at the finest setting according to his test. But c40 seems to have more coarse grinds in it compare to m47. See around 7min mark.
I think this is the top wanted video about manual grinders and you've done it visually and technically - just brilliant! It is very unfortunate that I can't understand a thing :( If you could use google translate to write in the description which one you've decided to keep for yourself. Or rephrasing the question, if you could have only one of them, which one would you peek after your testing? Thank you!
非常棒的影片，在15分鐘內就將兩支差異做個深入簡出的說明，值得儲存起來傳給有選擇障礙的朋友。
謝謝你的喜歡。如影片有幫助可多多分享給朋友囉～~~
感謝實驗比較~👍如果增加受測咖啡豆量(50g) 配上小數點後兩位的秤, 兩支頂規手磨的細粉差異應該會更顯著
感謝建議，或許以後可以拉高到30g測試，會更顯著
那個微距有強 值得大推 第一看到這種拍攝手法
謝謝您的喜歡~~
支持，非常清晰的测试结果，流程和设计
不知道現在有沒有推薦購買C40的地方？或網址？
這個微距太專業了，真是用心，給個讚！ 這兩隻頂級手搖跟小飛馬601N相比呢？
電磨跟手磨。等級還是有差的啦～基本上手磨的均勻度都比電磨還好~~5月份會換拍電磨喔～敬請期待^^
用心拍攝值得推薦
謝謝你啦～只是想讓大家可以看的更仔細點~
拍片挺專業的，要繼續加油哦。想看LIDO2 或者該系列的評測視頻 期待你來拍~~
謝謝您的鼓勵。我會努力拍出更多手磨視頻的~~！！
微距畫面推推
很用心地比對 感謝分享
Is Phoenix consistent in coarse grind setting and smooth rotation handle ? Thanks
c40最近漲好大，現在要多少錢呢？
您好，请问您在视频中用的c40手冲33格是针对标准主轴还是升级主轴的呢？等待您的答复。如果是针对升级套件的，那么标准主轴的手冲格数是不是用17左右呢。
視頻用的是升級套件喔~
這個微距拍攝覺得用心 👍 👍 👍
謝謝喜翻啊～那個微距真的很利害~一目了然~!!
perfect and smart comparing. thx
老闆我c40 mk40刻度10搭配9B ,不知道為什麼永遠煮出來都黑焦黑焦的沒有crema,能給新手一些建議嗎，感謝！
您可以先判斷煮出來的流速是否太快（會有點噴發現象，液體黏稠度低），如果是可以朝3個方向調整，1.把粗細度調細，2.粉量增加，3.填壓力道增加。
@@TheChiou13 感謝大大，9b新手養成很久...
請問一下，為什麼我的c40轉緊後沒放豆子但阻力很大？ 謝謝
初步判定是內外刀盤磨到，造成的阻力，這個情況下別千萬別使用，會傷刀盤的！
下次也能让 Rosco 也加入对比😍
我覺得就別驚動Rosco這不同級別的手磨啦～Rosco很兇啊！我惹不起 QQ
打擾了老闆 ，請問m47習慣退37格的話，約莫於C40退幾格呢？ 非常謝謝
嗨～您好。因我目前所有手磨只抓了一種基準。如果要重抓另一種基準其實相當費功。可以提供給您的資訊為kinu m47義式刀盤42格=C40+升級套件33-36格。但每台手磨還是都有誤差。如要很精準數值。建議可買一個20目的標準篩回家玩玩唷^^
@@TheChiou13 謝謝老闆回覆，也就是C40不加升級套件是16～18之間嗎？因為加了套件是2倍的格數 謝謝
@@mats0816 嘿嘿。按照常裡應該是如此。但是我從頭到尾都是用升級套件在抓。所以也沒辦法給您正確數值>
is Kinu M47 Powder cup fit for C40 MK3 粉杯?
not fit ~~
@沐萃Mucrafts 大大請問一下我最近在入手一隻M47手磨，但我發現內刀盤裡面和下中軸中間接觸的空洞部份很容易卡豆子沒有研磨到，不知道沐大使用的是否也會這樣這是正常現象嗎？感謝你～
您的意思是說磨到最後會有殘餘的粉，卡在內刀盤跟外刀盤中間嗎???
@@TheChiou13 這個也有，但殘粉我都是用拍粉杯和把手迴轉在順轉磨豆，殘粉就會下去，但是我現在都會有一些完整的咖啡豆有大顆和小顆都會卡在固定承軸（下承軸）的支柱下方跟外刀盤之間的縫隙中，這樣說明不知道大大是否清楚
@@panhoho_1101 我懂您的意思了。卡在那邊我覺得是有可能的。通常是豆子太大顆才有可能卡在那個。這個我認為無解呢~~
@@TheChiou13 所以大大的也會嗎？我以為是我的有問題，因為我搜尋時找不到有人提過這問題，我有另一個問題就是M47如果有問題台灣保養的話，要找那個代理商呢？大大知道嗎？
@@panhoho_1101 其實m47我都磨淺焙居多。還沒有遇到豆子卡在中間的問題呢~~如果m47有問題要維修。可以詢問您買的那間店家唷～通常都會幫您處理的^^
M47有3種 以你所知 差異大嗎
差外觀而已 刀盤一樣
感谢分享，微距好评，能看到具体切割的形状，如果能有kinu加配的手冲磨盘的微距，那就更好了
好的~有機會我可以試試唷～
Привет! Молодец!
老闆真用心，訂閱起來
感謝訂閱。揪咪~
請問影片中的電子秤可以手機連結的是哪台？謝謝
您好。品牌是HIROIA喔～
谢谢你的测评，很棒！有机会再玩一下M47手冲刀盘可以吗？谢谢！
手沖刀盤連結在此。請參考~~
ruclips.net/video/de8UKjYZSpE/видео.html
谢谢，加了你的IG.
@@JerryLiArt 好哦好哦。謝謝~~^^
請問你的C40顏色是櫻桃木嗎?
對~
“防呆设计”听起来好可爱啊🐶
Anyone know which grinder he preferred ?
Both have their own characteristics, I don’t particularly like which one
For people who want stronger aroma and acidity C40 is better
For people who want more sweetness and smoother body Kinu m47 is a better choice
If you sometime want more acidic coffee and sometime want more balanced coffee without modifying any brewing method/configuration, then just buy both.
Can you translate to English as I find your videos very interesting?
Sorry. I don't have the ability to use English subtitles >
@@TheChiou13 can you enable "cc" option? I saw one of your vdo have "cc" Option and I can select "Auto Translate" option to let RUclips translate your voice to English automatically.
c40，61圈，m47，46圈，15g
Can you write your verdict somewhere in Chinese so I can use google translate to understand ?
可以将判决书用中文写出来，以便我使用Google翻译来理解吗？
好的。我試試怎麼使用喔～
求m47手磨賣場連結謝謝
太精彩了，謝謝！
English subtitle please...
I can't speak english sorry...QQ
In short, if you prefer strong aroma with great acidity go for C40, if you prefer a more balanced taste with smoother body go for kinu m47
在評論區看到有些外國友人看不懂，慶幸自己懂中文誒🤣🤣
小弟才疏學淺。英文真的不會。實在對不住外國朋友~>
你講錯了，不是精密度，是精緻度
看完其他的再看這評測只覺得....參考價值不太足夠
我也覺得可以拍的更有參考價值些。請問您有具體優化建議嗎？謝謝
C40沒m47精細就是因為沒你說的削切刀盤！ 效率要用同樣的粗細往回比圈數，不是只比圈數！量準整完全不同！根本是滷蛋比雞腿！ 而且C40玻璃一不小心很容易摔破，整體用料C40根本不值這錢！ C40紅是因為經銷商銷售做得好！大家被C40吸引就是看似不會停的旋轉......但最重要的耐用度才是真正體現出精準度！看看人家虎仔是怎分析的！這傢伙細節分析都沒到位！
感謝指教~~
C40手沖風味比kinu 好；kinu 較適合義式。沐萃老闆就已經杯測過，珈品老闆也用多人杯測+盲測過。
確實kinu 用料和品質比C40好，但價位也不同啊。C40前陣子賣8500，Kinu simplicity 9800還是給你塑膠粉杯，比玻璃沒好到哪去。還要classic 12800才有磁吸粉杯，滾珠軸承中低階機都給你移除了。這樣比較起來純手沖的玩家買C40也ok啊。
视频挺好，听台湾男人说话真的太费劲，自带五分娘，喜欢彭于晏和虎记老板，够男人！
為何不直接說 "視頻挺好，謝謝“... 有必要加上之後的廢話嗎？
看你的簡化字根本是忘本，真夠文盲
听大陆男人说话，多数一股大老粗味，沟通费劲的很。
没必要人身攻击po主，po主这个语气语调还蛮可爱的