Eternal Security - The End of all Dispute
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- Опубликовано: 17 янв 2021
- The subject of 'once saved, always saved' has been fiercely debated for centuries. Yet, as this video reveals, the dispute about eternal security was ended once and for all when the book of Hebrews was written.
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Just found this, another eternal security video- FABULOUS!!! Hallelujah!!! Once a son, always a son, AMEN!!
Praise God a child of God can NEVER lose their salvation 💯
Amen :)
@@KenLegg”the end of all dispute”
No sir OSAS is a false teaching. You can’t claim that it’s not disputed after this video. I can biblical disprove all your false assertions
@@Keepitoriginalministry If a person can lose his salvation once he believes The Gospel, the Lord would have to die over and over. That supposes that the individual would need to "earn" his salvation again. If anyone could earn it in the first place, The Lord Jesus Christ wouldn't have had to die at all!
Amen indeed 🙏🙏🙏
No, afraid you cannot prove Him wrong.
If we are not eternally secure, we are not secure at all!
You are the one that is wrong!!!!!!
Lovely presentation brother. This issue caused me much anxiety for many years but was finally settled by the Father 3 years ago and I now have total peace ..God bless you and your ministry
Blessed to be a blessing 😊
@@KenLegg YES SIR
Good exposition pastor, scripturally, humbly and graciously presented. This teaching provokes in me a deep sense of love and indebtedness to Jesus for paying the price for my once-and-for-all redemption. I first learnt this truth 21 years ago, 6 years into my salvation, from a book entitled "The permanence of salvation". Belonging to the Pentecostal Movement, this has not been taught since until I was able to access RUclips recently.
Blessings! My background too is Pentecostal. But I never learned this precious truth there
@@KenLegg Amen. Continue teaching for I opine that anyone who does not know or teach this teaches legalistic righteousness though they may deny it.
Excellent! God is sooo good! I love His Word of promise! Nothing is more beautiful than the promise given through faith in His Son!
Amen
THIS IS THE OUT STANDING GREAT NEWS PERIOD OSAS IS VERY TRUE.
Wonderful message. This subject has bothered me for years. Mostly because of my past, Many many sins that bring crippling regret. Also i knew a Calvinist and that really messes with my mind. Thank you for your message. It does bring a bit of hope.
Blessings Eric. You may also enjoy my series on RUclips 'Salvation is Forever'
There is no gospel without OSAS.
Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of *eternal life* to all who trust Him alone for salvation.
This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ (alone) for salvation.
Well said!
Ur a gem sir... I'm always happy to hear someone else in another country who knows and shares the true gospel... May God bless ur ministry
Good to have your feedback...which country are you living in?
@@KenLegg Jamaica
@@berry6287 Excellent!! Keep sharing the good news there. Blessings
@@KenLegg Will do... trying hard, but 99.99% of churches and even those who don't attend churches have been hoodwinked by the works-based salvation.. So it can be depressing sometimes..
Those who say you can lose your salvation must not trust in the final work of Jesus. When you trust in Him you are justified and sangtified. How can you lose it? It is impossible! God loves us and we are his forever.
Amen
My thoughts exactly. If someone, at the moment of salvation, believes that they must add something to what Christ did on the Cross, then they are not placing their faith and trust in Christ and are therefore not saved.
I grew up in a Lutheran church back in the 70s in Minneapolis, that was not exactly works based in its ministry but SO many in the congregation were works salvation type of people, that it might as well been a works based church. And then throw politics and political pride into the mess, and it was a pressure oven of pure spiritual pain. Took me years, to recover from all that pressure and the chronic depression that followed.
Thanks for your feedback. I pray that the truth will continue to bless you and grant you the sweet assurance that the work of our salvation was truly finished at the cross and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ
Thanks so very much Ken. I will confess, that I am one of those wayward/prodigal son types of (let’s be honest here) at least 25 of my 50 years. Growing up surrounded by works salvation type of people did not help me. I used to be very suicidle, because I felt like I could never measure up. It has become astounding to me, in just the last 2 weeks, of how absolutely mind boggling it is, that there are so many people running around on the internet Christian channels with works salvation attitudes/mind sets. And they are so relentless too, holy cow, it’s exhausting. I am doing alot better with discerning now, when the enemy is attacking me with accusations. I used just try and hide in shame and bitterness toward myself from accusations. And for years, I couldn’t tell the difference if the Lord was angry at me, or the Devil was tricking me. I’m really feeling very blessed to have found your channel!
Thanks so much again, Steve in Minneapolis, Minnesota
A very good friend of mine was studying to be a pastor based on the Lutheran doctrine. He became free of religion and defended the true gospel of grace till he passed sadly this past January ..he is greatly missed was a dear friend to me...
Im one who battles and been tormented with doubts of salvation for over 7 years and I accepted Christ 8 years ago! satan wasted no time in getting to me and messing me up ive heard so many different teachings that im a confused mess and wondering am I really saved did I lose it if I was all sorts so I appreciate this message a lot!
May God fill you with His peace in trusting in His dear Son alone for your salvation.
@@KenLegg Amen Its by Christ alone 🙂
I can relate so much. My mind and body have been wrecked by relentless doubt, continuous research, and continual changes of heart (not for the better). I’ve been feeling like I’ve been trapped on a rollercoaster, destined to keep changing my mind and getting swayed left and right. I’ve had no peace. I’ve even started to think I was under a curse of some kind. Now, I have believed (again), in the finished redemptive work of Jesus and I don’t want to change my mind about it again. I can’t let it happen, I’ve been praying it doesn’t happen, I’ve been calling out to God in Jesus’s name. May He keep us both secure and comforted in His eternal embrace.
May the Holy Spirit provide you guidance and comfort.
JESUS CHRIST WILL NEVER ,UN,,, REDEEM HIS OWN.
You know that hit the nail right on the head that makes a lot of sense. Once a son always a son. You can’t be a son and then not a son that does not make sense. I ask God the Holy Spirit to show me the truth and he did today.
Praise God!
Pastor Ken, I like you to come to our church in Sydney to preach Eternal security because hardly we heard the Gospel message but behaviour message/law keeping😊
I would be very happy to come :)
Jesus Christ can not and will NEVER ,,,,UN,,, REDEEM HIS OWN ABORT THEM OR PUT THEM ON PROBATION END TO DEBATE SATAN
Beautiful message. Praise God !!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it
A most reassuring message Ken. I was fascinated with the ‘towns of refuge’ and the comparison with our hope of eternity with Jesus. A good message to share too. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it Ruth. Yes, please share with others :)
This is making me soooooooo happy because I believe every word you are teaching, yessssssssss
May God continue to fill your heart with His peace in believing, Edwina
Amen, teach yesssssssss aren't we sealed with the holy spirit?, eternal life.
Amen Edwina. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit ruclips.net/video/v_j4NeKPosA/видео.html
thanks Ken, for all the details of a town of refuge, and explaining our security, it is very strenghing
You're welcome Karen...and thanks for the feedback
Great message Ken. God bless you
Thanks Ben and Carla. God bless you and your ministry too
Great message, thank you.
I have subscribed to your channel, thank you for this truthful medsage of assurance. God bless! ♥️🙏🙏🙏
Blessings David. Thanks for subscribing
The prodigal son is the prime example he walked away from the father he left. He took all his inheritance, and he came to himself, and the father came and threw himself on the son’s neck and kissed him while he was still away off!!!!!
Thank you Ken. I love you
Blessings Damian. Hope you are doing well
God bless you!
God bless you too
WHY Paul warned believers that if they practiced the sins of the flesh they will not inherit the kingdom of God if no sin causes loss of salvation? "Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I warn you, just as I warned you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." Gal. 5:19-21
Blessings Enrique. There is a difference between salvation and inheriting the kingdom. Please see here ruclips.net/video/FSgDUga7uI8/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/WxO9on3OThA/видео.html God bless you
From Myanmar.
Blessings
Amen🙌
Amen.
Do we need to take Communion to be Saved? In John Jesus says if you don’t drink my blood and eat my flesh you have no life in yourselves If you drink my blood and eat my flesh I will give you eternal life but Jesus also says in John Verily Verily I say unto you whosoever Believeth on Me hath Everlasting Life I am confused Are we Saved by doing certain things or by Grace Alone through Faith Alone in Christ Alone? Thank you for All your Help and Time God Bless you
We need to take communion because Jesus told us to, and the apostles practiced it. But you are correct in saying that we do not do it for salvation. Salvation is by faith alone in Jesus alone. We do it, as He taught us, in remembrance of what He did for us. Blessings
Doesn't the apostle Paul speak of sinning against his will? He speaks of having a willing mind to serve Christ, but that his flesh wars against his mind and he finds himself doing what he doesn't want to do.
WHY this writer warned believers of the danger of final apostasy, a return to Judaism, if not even apostasy can cause loss of salvation to a saved person? BTW only a saved person can apostatize. "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame." Heb. 6:4-6
Please understand the context of any passage you wish to quote. See ruclips.net/video/8ctmE5rUNJE/видео.html
Heb_6:6 If they shall FALL AWAY, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Luk_8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation FALL AWAY.
1Co_10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
In Luke 8:13 you have answered your own question. The seed on rocky ground had no root. We are either rooted in Christ or we are not saved. These were not rooted in Christ, never saved. See Eph.3:17-19; Col.2:6&7. Hebrews 6:6 is not referring to Christians, but to Hebrews who were making the transition from Judaism into Christianity, but were now considering not taking that step. If you seriously believe this was written to Christians then you would have to say that those who backslid could never come back to Christ according to this passage. It's 'impossible for them to be renewed to repentance'. Do you honestly believe that? Please watch this video. ruclips.net/video/8ctmE5rUNJE/видео.html
WHY Jesus warned that behavior, good or evil, is the criteria that determines in which resurrection one belongs if behavior is irrelevant and determines nothing like these OSAS wolves teach? "....the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth-those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." John 5:28, 29
Enrique, please read this passage in context v.24 clearly says that the one BELIEVES will have everlasting life and not come into judgment. There are 150 verses in the New Testament which tell us that we are saved by faith alone. You are teaching that we are saved by our works. This is another gospel. I urge you to repent and to teach people to trust in Christ alone, not in their works
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The biggest flaw in the thinking of the enemies of Eternal Security is that they fail to realize just how sinful they are themselves. Their own pride and arrogance blind them. They hypocritically condemn other believers who live in unrepentant sin or backslide, failing to realize that they're just as sinful in God's eyes. If salvation can be lost, then who is righteous enough to keep their own salvation? Only a self-righteous hypocrite would claim to be sinless, holly and righteous enough to please God and earn their place in Glory. The Word of God in the Old Testament puts them to shame...
Isaiah 64:6, “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.”
As for me I am a filthy rotten sinner deserving the pits of Hell and the ONLY righteousness I have is the Imputed Righteousness of Jesus Christ:
“And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was IMPUTED to him; But for us also, to whom it shall be IMPUTED, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead” (Romans 4:22-24).
I agree Mike. One question they never seem to be able to answer is 'At what point do you lose salvation?' And you can be sure that if they were to answer it they would say that it's at a point below where they are at :) They clearly do not understand that every Christian is equal in righteousness because our righteousness is not our own, but the righteousness of God imputed to us through Jesus Christ. Blessings.
@@KenLegg I agree they are so ignorant of the Bible and Theology in General. The concept of the difference between Justification and Sanctification is LOST on them. All they can spout out like a parrot is their proof texts taken out of context.
I have been saved for 40 years. I have known many true believers. I have never known anyone to lose their salvation. And for those that think you, can't name one person that has. Finished work!!
I would like to share some things with you, as a counterpoint, from someone who no longer believes in eternal security.
Today I believe the Scriptures show how salvation can be lost, which is also consistent with what I've read about the beliefs of the early Church.
I don't condemn other professing Christians, because I am not their judge. Instead, I'm more preoccupied with worry about myself.
I don't believe that my (or anyone's) actions could ever be holy and righteous enough to "earn" or "keep" salvation, but I do believe that the actions of man are important in the salvation process. Our actions demonstrate repentance (or its lack). Also, our actions support a clean conscience (or condemn it). Good conduct is part of being right before God. Either we have the peace that comes with a clean conscience, or we're being convicted about something. If we ignore holy convictions, then that could make trouble for us. I believe this state of peace or conviction is how God intends to lead me, and so I should pay attention to that.
For me, this isn't a point of pride or arrogance, because I don't believe I'm in great standing with God or his son (my future judge). To the contrary, I struggle with sin, and so I worry greatly about eternity and my future. I don't believe I (or anyone) can really know where their soul would go until their life's journey is over.
I may have lost some (presumably false?) peace related to eternal security, but I have gained some things too. I have gained a fear of the Lord (and the coming judgment), a desire to obey and draw close to him, and a need to endure to the end. I'm far more serious now about living a holy and righteous life. Also, the testimony of Scripture is more unified and makes more sense to me than before. I see these as being good things and not bad.
I believe people are saved by faith, but I also believe faith is not just mental agreement. If we believe in the Lord Jesus, let's also believe in what he said about the coming judgment and how men ought to live. If we are really his sheep, then we will hear his voice and obey him. If we hear his words and obey them, we are building a future on him -- the solid rock. If we hear his words but do not obey, we are building our future on the shifting sand.
May the Lord bless and keep and help you along the way.
@@timf8792 Thanks for sharing Tim. And I appreciate the humble way in which you have done so. It is clear, from what you have written, that you do not have assurance of your final salvation and that the reason for this is because you are looking to your behavior to give you that assurance. The Bible teaches clearly in many verses that God not only wants to save us but also He wants us to have the assurance that we are saved (e.g. Jn.3:36; 5:24; 1 Jn.5:11-13). Furthermore, all these verses, and many more, teach clearly that this assurance comes from believing what Christ has done and is not looking to our works (see also Eph.2:8-9; Tit.3:5). An assumption many make is that when one believes in salvation by grace through faith alone that this negates works. We do not teach this. But works are to be seen as the fruit of salvation and not it's root (Tit.2:11-14). Blessings to you, Ken
I am tired of arrogant self-righteous hypocrites, religious Pharisees, who go around teaching that salvation can be lost. Let me tell you something: If salvation could be lost, then we all lost it a long time ago, because we are all guilty, dirty, rotten, hell-deserving sinners. Do you understand that?
Those who believe that salvation can be lost have a completely different mindset than the genuine born-again Christian. This is why I say confidently that the proponents of losing one's salvation are not saved. To the true believer, Christ is our only hope. In Jesus we rest completely for our righteousness, sanctification and eternal life. However, to the unbelieving person who thinks he or she can lose salvation by committing sin, they errantly think they have a key role in their own salvation.
The entire false doctrine of losing one's salvation is firmly rooted in self-righteousness. Those who believe that salvation is lost when a believer willfully sins are calling God a liar, Who PROMISED eternal life before the world began (Titus 1:2). Romans 10:13 promises salvation to whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord. There is no added stipulation that a person must abstain from willfully sinning. Jesus said in John 14:6 that He is the way, the truth and the life. The Scriptures couldn't be more clearer concerning this matter.
Amen!!🎚️❤️
"Once a son always a son" so you could become a rampant homosexual and still be saved even though 1cor6:9-11
4:15 all sin is not deliberate meaning that its not all premeditated; anger and rage is just one example
Thanks for your comment Justin. There is a difference between gift and reward. Many Christians do not understand this and so interpret all warning scriptures to Christians as a reference to the possibility of losing salvation. Please watch this video ruclips.net/video/FSgDUga7uI8/видео.html Blessings, Ken
I'm wondering what your view on John 3: 1-8 is? I believed for most of my life and always hoped I would go to heaven. It wasn't until the miracle of being baptized in the Holy Spirit on February 13th 2020 that I now know I am saved. It is a gift from God that we have ZERO control of. Like our natural birth. We are all deserving of hell yet God chooses some to be saved. God told Moses I will have mercy on whom I will. I hope that I am wrong as I have many loved ones that this didn't happen to. I just don't know how you can discount Jesus saying you must be born from above to enter the kingdom. Peace 🙏♥️🙏
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Context matters. Calvinism is a modern day pharisaical doctrine. "We are the chosen and everyone else is already damned." Jesus also spoke against the Pharisees for preventing others from entering the kingdom who DESIRED to enter. They prevented them because they believed they were not the "chosen." Study the character of the Pharisees and you will see that Calvinism is a false gospel, a false Jesus, and a false spirit. It is a doctrine of demons that is disguised as God, but it is not. The character of Calvinism is the character attributed to Satan in the Word of God. Cunning, deceptive, manipulative, abusive, controlling, etc. Calvinism does NOT reveal the true character of God. He is no respecter of persons! You are reading the Bible in the wrong context. The main problem, I believe, is that some people create a different gospel according to doctrine. But, clearly, the Bible teaches that doctrine must be built on the foundation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You are putting the cart before the horse. If doctrine seems to contradict the Gospel, it is because you are building backwards. You can't build before the foundation is laid and "set." The Gospel is the ONLY foundation you can build on. Nobody lays a foundation on top of the building (doctrine). That is foolishness. Without the stable foundation, you are building in vain.