I had a discussion with David about the Commander X16 at PRGE back in 2018 I think. My opinion was an FPGA was required and it wouldn't be remotely as cheap as $50. I'm fine with being wrong but what really grinds my gears is when I give good advice and it's ignored, as the CX16 now has - shocking! - an FPGA and will probably cost hundreds.
Watching and listening to you get all excited over the image polarizers is absolutely infectious, and I absolutely LOVE it. Coincidentally, my cat Turbo has the zooms right now, too. It's approximately 6:15am...
The 8bit guy bit was super funny. I'm pretty sure a lot of the people that got upset about the paperclip have all had their own "8bit guy moment". I know I have.
We're all hack frauds. I think all amateur preservationists learned a lesson from that incident, and I think he did too. Now make fun of him gently but let him make his videos in peace!
Seeing the Canadian Tire logo when he opens the box. Then remembering Ben throwing shade at the great white north in the gamegear mod video. Here we go again
I love these old LCD/VFD games and thankfully still have a few from when I was a kid (and the boxes). Astro Wars, Firefox F7, Puck Monster, Scramble etc. and a couple of the 3D Tomytronic games.
damnit I could have won Ben Heck Bingo if he'd have simply used Funky Foam under that battery door instead of getting all 3D fancy. DAMN YOU, HECKENDORN!!!
Haha. I was not expecting 8bit guy references. I wonder if Ben heck doesn't like him? I've chatted with him a few times on FB about the games he's made. He's alright in my book.
@@jothain so does Ben, I think there are some disagreements but Ben has "watched every 8 bit guy video". I think I get it, he can be overly opinionated and blunt but I always get laughs from that, every time the 8 bit guy says "irritating" I literally laugh out loud.
@@awesomeferret they're both old school tech RUclipsrs with personal opinions I definitely disagree on, but haven't done anything to be cancelled over (unless you wanna bash David over that paperclip fail). I'm a blunt person as well and can feel some sympathy for David and he's admitted he leaves in mistakes to be honest with viewers. Ben is clearly the more expert of an engineer and David has said numerous times that he himself isn't an expert and doing this all as a hobby, so I think it's somewhat unfair to go after him for being imperfect or not knowing every little thing. I do think David really needs to stop working on stuff aggressively because he "has no time to get the right tools". Like using a dremel to open stuff up as opposed to buying an iFixIt kit with all the right bits.
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. My wife gifted me with this tabletop for Christmas and the images were monochrome over a colored background. This video helped me correct the issue and now it plays in color once again. Someone had installed the polarizer in the wrong direction. Again, thank you!
I had one of those as a kid. The 'start' music is different than I remember it, I wonder if there was a firmware change. My 8yo self discovered you could bounce the battery/power a few times and it would enter a diagnostic mode, play all the 100 pt tunes and show all the LCD cells. If you set the clock and alarm, a guy comes out of the passenger side of the right truck and rings a bell when the alarm goes off. The original battery cover slid in and locked into position. Thanks for showing this, I remember playing with this toy a lot growing up.
I've found that most LCDs are polarized at 45 degrees like this one is. My guess is this is so the display is still readable through sunglasses even if mounted in another orientation.
I find Ben's rambling so therapeutic. For some reason it reminds me of student days drunkenly catching the last bus home after a night out to find the resident lunatic quietly raving on the top deck... happily minus the smell and puddle of urine - the lunatic not me!
Fun fact: Nintendo still holds a patent on that screen design to implement color on an LCD. When I was a kid, I didn't like the Game & Watch style LCD games but now that I'm older, I get them better. They are essentially juggling/timing games. I've found Nintendo's to be the better designed games of all of them. The other companies tended to lack a certain craft to their design.
"Really crude quality..." "impersenation back and forth with yourself?" "...print..." "ah yes that too I guess. Also coolest still open fan of R&M in 2021
AFAIK the polarizers DO work backwards but, since they are 45 degrees, flipping actually rotates the polarizer 90 degrees. You would need to cut them rotated, preferably after sticking to the backing plastic.
They originally adapting this games plot for the second Super Mario Bros. movie. Following the critical drubbing they got on the first film they eventually retooled the script as Locke starring Tom Hardy as Luigi and Andrew Scott as Mario.
I have a rarity I would love to get working again, a Sega CDX. I already troubleshooted it to the BIOS on IC 11, it would keep freezing on the Sega CD logo for the disc functions, the CD player function works perfectly, so do cartridges, so right now I tracked it back to the mainboard BIOS which had no problems. I tried reflowing the BIOS chip. Light touch to each pad, and noticed one of the pads literally slid out from the leg, #13. So I need assistance rebuilding the trace through the via, which is really easy to find. Seems like an intermittent error, because the moment that happened, nothing else works.
It is a Game and Watch, they called it the Game and Watch Tabletop line. Check the logo near the joystick. They also sold one of their models to Coleco who recolored it and released DK Jr. It's a fascinating line! By the way, it's super awesome you recreated the polarizing sheets. I can see people replicating what you've done to fix models they thought were unfixable
I had a discussion with David about the Commander X16 at PRGE back in 2018 I think. My opinion was an FPGA was required and it wouldn't be remotely as cheap as $50. I'm fine with being wrong but what really grinds my gears is when I give good advice and it's ignored, as the CX16 now has - shocking! - an FPGA and will probably cost hundreds.
I like you guys both. Please don't fight.
@@ognyanbelchev4190 It's not a fight. Just giving my reasons for throwing jabs.
David is a software guy. Be patient with them. Easier to make friends and maintain our cover that way. 🥂
@@BenHeckHacks Now I get it! I'll remove my comments about not getting it now.
I love your work but you can be a total ego dick even if you maybe aren't realizing it. Work on them social skills G
"paper clip in a power supply moment" lol i love the stupid lore that shows up as canon in this show
I like the 8-bit guy. But there is a reason the phrase "knows enough to be dangerous" exists.
Ben is the eccentric uncle that we all look forward to hanging out with in the garage at family gatherings while he does cool stuff.
I'm like Rich Sanchez just more drunk.
"I'm the 8-bit guy and I've got 10 electric cars" LOL!
Shots fired!!
Haha I lost it laughing
And I like retro brighting everything!!
actually 4 and he built the first one himself 😂
The paper clip comment got me! 🤣
I came for the restoring but stayed for the 8bit Guy shade
Haha #me too
And me.
He can sing, he can repair, he can clean, he can explain, he can scifi life like if it was normal, he can reuse packaging, Ben Heck. 🐱👤
"ahee hee i have 10 electric cars" -the 7bit guy
There is a certain charm to the narration being done while Ben is eating
Poor 8-Bit Guy. Getting shat on by Ben Heck himself
Ya that sounded Kinda dickish, but then also sounded just like David lol. He does love his retrobrighting.
Nerd on Nerd hate, when will it end?
The glee in Ben's voice when he said "It's a screwdriver!" had me laughing my ass off.
Great 8-Bit guy impression lol. His and Voultars retrobriting tips saved my PCE and JP Sega Saturns refurbs haha...
I'm here for the electronics and the regrettable acting.
Watching and listening to you get all excited over the image polarizers is absolutely infectious, and I absolutely LOVE it. Coincidentally, my cat Turbo has the zooms right now, too. It's approximately 6:15am...
Mario is the ultimate handyman.. he also does plumbing, emergency rescues and even practices medicine!
Considering his pill usage, I'd expect that everything else chronologically came _after_ the medical license suspension.
I always thought there was something about his erratic driving now it all makes sense
A little of everything but nothing well.
I love the impersonations you do of everyone. This is the only retro gaming channel that's actually funny.
Not gonna lie, "Mario's Cement Factory" sounds like one of those fan games that are really messed up.
Restoring that plastic it looks like Ben inadvertently created Nuka Cola Quantum
Haha I always thought the 8-bit guy sounded like The Simpson's comic book guy. "Best episode ever"
Hi I’m the 8 bit guy - today, we cover the game I designed for the shed I built in my Tesla.
HAHAHAHAHA God Damn whyd i just piss myself at that????
Startup song sounds like “another one bites the dust”
Edit: ha! Never mind that’s what Ben says!
In the game boy advanced game game and watch gallery 4 the graphics are different and there is no startup sound
Considering how every wrong move in this game kills him, the song seems oddly appropriate
Hahahahha, I was thinking about the 8-bit guy when you were sticking that polarizer. Good thing you remembered
"Kitten, get a hobby!"
"This is my hobby!"
*Why don't you tell us how you really feel about 8-bit Guy*
The 8bit guy bit was super funny. I'm pretty sure a lot of the people that got upset about the paperclip have all had their own "8bit guy moment". I know I have.
We've all let the magic smoke out at least once
I had the opposite problem getting frustrated why my phone screen was showing nothing...through my polarised sunglasses...
He made 8 bit guy sound so derpy
David is pretty derpy if we're completely honest. I like the guy, but he's very much a bull in a china shop when it comes to vintage hardware.
@@bruwinHe is..but I still watch his channel. Saw him let the smoke out with the paper clip in the rare IBM.
Oh my God that 8bit guy roast is giving me life
He was also roasting the people that complained about it.
That guy is such a hack fraud! Can't stand him
We're all hack frauds. I think all amateur preservationists learned a lesson from that incident, and I think he did too. Now make fun of him gently but let him make his videos in peace!
@@voodooroller His videos are low effort and he is a overall cringe lord.. Btw... lol at your last name
Seeing the Canadian Tire logo when he opens the box. Then remembering Ben throwing shade at the great white north in the gamegear mod video. Here we go again
No one is safe from my shade!
10:30 This is Nintendo in a nutshell. Cheap as chips, but skillfully applied technique makes it worth something.
You ARE the Kitten's hobby.
How dare you insult the 8-bit-guy! The retro computing gods will now smite you
"Ate some things that aren't legal in all states" I knew it...
that is one of the best Connery impressions i have ever heard
This is the game that shows everyone the "pie factory" in Donkey Kong is actually a Cement Factory! Awesome!
“I wanna live in a world with
Star Wars againnnnnnn!” - Ben
Never stop singing.
14:50 his voice impressions are spot on.
And yeah I’ve seen the young Indy chronicles it’s actually very historical and (gasp) educational.
you are roasting the shit out of the 8-bit guy rn lol, are you gonna get a commander 16?
ChickenLips 16!
I love these old LCD/VFD games and thankfully still have a few from when I was a kid (and the boxes). Astro Wars, Firefox F7, Puck Monster, Scramble etc. and a couple of the 3D Tomytronic games.
Your Sean Connery is immaculate!
Lmfao, Luigi getting Mario a job legit made my face hurt
Next on ben heck hacks, how to change out the clock on the wash and cure to support 36 hour cycles
Best video about Mario mini arcades
being fixed by a karaoke singer I've ever watched
Add the 8 bit guy to the techvelling willburies!
Not only an educational vintage electronic game repair, it's an Indiana Jones revue!
damnit I could have won Ben Heck Bingo if he'd have simply used Funky Foam under that battery door instead of getting all 3D fancy. DAMN YOU, HECKENDORN!!!
I always assumed bens glasses were what he used to see into the future. Now the magic is all lost.
Odd tinkering is the RUclips guy that fixes old toys and electronics
I thought he was referencing "Rescue & Restore".
@@JekyllJones he could have been, I have never watched that channel though
Damn Ben, throwing shade at 8bit guy right out the gate!
I know right!
Wow the dig at 8-Bit Guy nearly killed me!
Decent impressions got me lmaoing
the 8-bit-guy dig nearly killed me...lamo
Okay now it's time for 8-Bit to throw it back.
Haha. I was not expecting 8bit guy references. I wonder if Ben heck doesn't like him? I've chatted with him a few times on FB about the games he's made. He's alright in my book.
It kinda sounded that he dislikes him. I think he makes excellent content.
@@jothain so does Ben, I think there are some disagreements but Ben has "watched every 8 bit guy video". I think I get it, he can be overly opinionated and blunt but I always get laughs from that, every time the 8 bit guy says "irritating" I literally laugh out loud.
@@awesomeferret they're both old school tech RUclipsrs with personal opinions I definitely disagree on, but haven't done anything to be cancelled over (unless you wanna bash David over that paperclip fail). I'm a blunt person as well and can feel some sympathy for David and he's admitted he leaves in mistakes to be honest with viewers. Ben is clearly the more expert of an engineer and David has said numerous times that he himself isn't an expert and doing this all as a hobby, so I think it's somewhat unfair to go after him for being imperfect or not knowing every little thing. I do think David really needs to stop working on stuff aggressively because he "has no time to get the right tools". Like using a dremel to open stuff up as opposed to buying an iFixIt kit with all the right bits.
Also, I figured at the beginning, Cement city was referencing the lab in the basement. Perhaps the lab should be called Cementwerks
Do every single one of your videos get copyright strikes?
Fair use is a thing.
Thank you SO MUCH for this video. My wife gifted me with this tabletop for Christmas and the images were monochrome over a colored background. This video helped me correct the issue and now it plays in color once again. Someone had installed the polarizer in the wrong direction. Again, thank you!
I love how people are taking jabs at Ben about his opinions on 8-Bit Guy as if he legit cares about your opinions
I had one of those as a kid. The 'start' music is different than I remember it, I wonder if there was a firmware change.
My 8yo self discovered you could bounce the battery/power a few times and it would enter a diagnostic mode, play all the 100 pt tunes and show all the LCD cells.
If you set the clock and alarm, a guy comes out of the passenger side of the right truck and rings a bell when the alarm goes off.
The original battery cover slid in and locked into position.
Thanks for showing this, I remember playing with this toy a lot growing up.
Ah, mine sounded more like this one: ruclips.net/video/fZyU7P9LVoc/видео.html
I've found that most LCDs are polarized at 45 degrees like this one is. My guess is this is so the display is still readable through sunglasses even if mounted in another orientation.
We're polarized glasses a thing in 1983?
@@mopenstein It looks like they were introduced in 1936 by Polaroid. Before their cameras Polaroid made polarizing sheets (hence their name).
2:00 the imitation is just hilarious.
Do 8bit guy and Ben not like each other?
Sounds like playful Gen X banter between two youtubers to me.
Naah, Ben and David r Buddies!!! Like the bootcamp said, " Playful Gen X Banter"!!!
Love it. Commentary is always the best part.
Oh man. I had one of these as a kid in the 80's. That theme song starting up just brought me back. Thanks!
Considering how lethal Mario's job there is maybe some union-enforced OSHA compliance is what it actually needs.
I find Ben's rambling so therapeutic.
For some reason it reminds me of student days drunkenly catching the last bus home after a night out to find the resident lunatic quietly raving on the top deck... happily minus the smell and puddle of urine - the lunatic not me!
Sometimes puddles of urine are still involved.
I lost it at the 8-bit Guy impersonation. Great stuff!
Come for the repair, stay for the old man stories
The camera angle makes me feel like I'm watching upside down.
oxiclean decomposes into hydrogen peroxide. So, your adding hydrogen peroxide to hydrogen peroxide...
Mario's Cement Factory was actually the first and only Game and Watch that I owned. I still have it and it still works perfectly.
Watching this really makes me want to see a project with a custom LCD display, such fun old tech
Poor Ben's arms never stood a chance against buddy's claws
Fun fact: Nintendo still holds a patent on that screen design to implement color on an LCD.
When I was a kid, I didn't like the Game & Watch style LCD games but now that I'm older, I get them better. They are essentially juggling/timing games. I've found Nintendo's to be the better designed games of all of them. The other companies tended to lack a certain craft to their design.
Oh boy that brought back memories, I used to have one of those as a kid. As soon as that tune started up it all flashed back into my head! lol
"Really crude quality..." "impersenation back and forth with yourself?" "...print..." "ah yes that too I guess.
Also coolest still open fan of R&M in 2021
AFAIK the polarizers DO work backwards but, since they are 45 degrees, flipping actually rotates the polarizer 90 degrees. You would need to cut them rotated, preferably after sticking to the backing plastic.
1:58 (EDIT: 22:47 also) -- nice 8-bit guy jabs there lololol
Love a new episode, this is a great piece of history.
Top shelf ramblings this time around, Ben! 👏👏👏
Throwing shade at 8 Bit Guy...glorious.
"My rule of THUMB for fingers...." Nice!
Come for the tech-nerd goodness, stay for Bens impressions and hilarious commentary. 💯🤣
They originally adapting this games plot for the second Super Mario Bros. movie.
Following the critical drubbing they got on the first film they eventually retooled the script as Locke starring Tom Hardy as Luigi and Andrew Scott as Mario.
Didn't expect to see you comment here.... and lol.
This is a pretty advanced, to a point it actually looks like a game. Maybe because it has a lot more states than the one I had as a kid.
After the day I've had I needed this episode
Come for the content, stay for the 🎵
Seeing this always reminds me as kid in the 90s playing Tiger Electronic games and those hose fun to drive games that look like car dashboard.
The real question is, why is a plumber working in a cement factory?
For job references obviously. A man of many talents isn't easy to find these days.
Union strike~ must seek alternate employment.
Would you mind posting the STL file for the battery door to 3D print? Thanks!
I could use a new door. 😊
Actually, Jesus was already gone and they stabbed him to make sure.
Zombie Jesus!
Nice restore! As usual, really enjoyed this.
Wow that 8bit guy impression was spot on especially the laugh
pretty darn good singing coconut crab impersonation, nevermind remembering the lyrics 🤣
I have a rarity I would love to get working again, a Sega CDX. I already troubleshooted it to the BIOS on IC 11, it would keep freezing on the Sega CD logo for the disc functions, the CD player function works perfectly, so do cartridges, so right now I tracked it back to the mainboard BIOS which had no problems. I tried reflowing the BIOS chip. Light touch to each pad, and noticed one of the pads literally slid out from the leg, #13. So I need assistance rebuilding the trace through the via, which is really easy to find. Seems like an intermittent error, because the moment that happened, nothing else works.
Electronic restoration and Barenaked Ladies references? Hell yes.
@Ben the original battery cover is just a simple sliding mechanism :) here for your reference ruclips.net/video/VUbZI3Odwvk/видео.html
Love seeing the Canadian tire tape.
It is a Game and Watch, they called it the Game and Watch Tabletop line. Check the logo near the joystick. They also sold one of their models to Coleco who recolored it and released DK Jr. It's a fascinating line!
By the way, it's super awesome you recreated the polarizing sheets. I can see people replicating what you've done to fix models they thought were unfixable
A lot of shade in here today.
It's not about polarized and non-polarized, it's about vertical versus horizontal polarization.