@StormTheSquid 2 of them did but it's not gonna go very deep or do any damage. You're more likely to kill them by infection rather than bleed-out considering the depth they entered to
That depends. If you don’t have another weapon you might be better off keeping the arrows to use in close quarters. I imagine _stabbing_ someone with an arrow is pretty effective under the right circumstances.
@@Amaranthyne It's actually not I believe he has another video where he showcases him stabbing a target with an arrow and explains that due to the very flimsy nature of the arrow it's actually very impractical.
@@unordinary2715 I imagine it did more damage than throwing it. I’m not saying it’s ideal, but I also think it’s better than being *unarmed. *as a person without extensive training in unarmed combat.
@@Amaranthynehe showcased that it can be effective if you have heavy thick arrows but lighter arrows don't do anything just like the thrown ones in this video
I think it's mostly for variation. They don't want the archer to just continuously shoot arrows for a few minutes every time there's a fight. To make it more interesting, they add variation by pretending that the archer doesn't have time to shoot efficiently.
@@9nikolai The weird thing about this is that archers should realistically carry knifes or daggers or some close melee weapon to kind of solve this problem. Imagine the enemy gets too close and she pulls out two saxe knifes. Metal
Its simply a matter of fantasy filling. where general viewership wants to see the role by what it mainly is you see an Archer you want it to do Archery in some animations and even in Avengers 1 with Hawkeye (after he runs out of arrows), there's cases where they'll make the bow also be armored so that it can be used melee wise but always keep the usage of the bow/arrow at all times Its just common trope Viewers tend to eat because average viewers dont really consider that a character, save for sword wielders or an inherently dual wielder; would be wielding secondary weaponry and movies adapt to that public view so Fantasy stays by what it is: a fantasy
Throwing normal arrows might the least scary thing you can do with them. Still very nice content! (I also think throwing arrows looks pretty stupid. If your bow is broken, grab your sidearm like a dagger or sword or mace.)
@@khrashingphantom9632 According to several sources in the Bundeswehr the P1 pistol was all about throwing it. 8 warning shots, one deadly throw, because it was that inaccurate.
@@HereticalKitsune Is that the game or are you being serious? Lol. I just know I saw 2 knights sword fighting then one pulls out a pistol and just freaking shoots him. Lol. I haven't laughed that hard in a while. 😂.
The Romans used hand thrown plumbata, which were roughly the size of lawn darts, but they added lead weights to give them enough heft for a useful terminal effect. There aren't any complete surviving examples but a few of the iron head and lead weights have survived and modern reconstructions have each of them weight about 4-5 ounces. The Todd's Workshop channel did a couple of video's about them linked below. ruclips.net/video/EfgMfSZiQSU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/vNlgb79A4mM/видео.html
Yeah as someone more skilled in thrown weapons there are a lot of flaws with his testing not least of whuch is his arrow heads are entirely wrong, her arrows are bladed tips not conical if I remember correctly and that's a HUGE difference
Flat throwing plumbata directly at someone isn't that trustworthy either. There's no time for them to steady themselves in the air and half the time your victim just gets bonked with the weight.
@@Ithirahad Todd's Workshop did another test using a javelin thrower from a local college athletics team (see the link below). He threw the plumbata gripping the base like a lawn dart and like a regular javelin (at two forty in the video). Even thrown from the base it didn't take long to correct. ruclips.net/video/xK96h2dyJfI/видео.html
I interpret the movie scene as showing not only the enchantment on the Santa gifted gear, but hinting at the superhuman power that the Pevenseys would come to wield as they grew into their roles as Kings & Queens. In some of the later books they pull off some pretty crazy stuff, well into superhero/demigod/mythic character turf!
Oh that's actually a good point! In the books it's stated that being in Narnia changes the Pevensies. They run faster, can run farther, laugh louder, and just...have more life in them. (In the movies it never explicitly said so I'm not sure if it's a plot point in the movie) It's part of why being back in England is such a shock I would imagine, because they're not only losing their friends/home/leadership roles, but they've also become...something different. Even just a few hours in Narnia can change them. In Prince Caspian, a few nights into their return to Narnia, Peter has the thought that he can run faster and further and with surer footing, far beyond what he could do in a simple footrace in England. That they've traveled so much in the past day and they're only able to do so because they're in Narnia and stronger, while they don't have the capability to travel as far in England
This guy is educating me on the powers of wool shirts. I have worn wool sweaters here and there and mine would have done almost nothing for me if someone attacked me with a pointy object
I recognized this guy for the "How D&D classes shoot Arrows" video, I don't know why is never occurred to me that he did other cool things but I'm here for it now
I like how he mentioned the enchantment on the arrows. now you know for sure that the arrow throw was executed with Magic assist on XD although, not sure if that guy probably died. He more likely fainted seeing the arrow stuck there XD
A quick thought, though. Back when I was learning knife throwing I realized that the best approach was to kind of hold it by the middle, with the index and middle finger up on the dull edge. Then, throw and release, allowing the back of the knife to sort of glide under the riff between those two fingers, as to establish balance from the get-go. With arrows it should be easier. I know I might've not made it super clear as I am not a native english speaker, but if you happen to see this reply and want a demo, let me know and I'll upload a video about it and tell you when it's up. I would really like to see you trying that strategy!
You CAN actually throw arrows effectively with something like an atlatl. Obviously they didn't have one of those in Narnia and sometimes the arrows or darts are different, but it would be cool to see you test oflne of those!
@@aarkproductions Arrows just don't have enough mass to do much at the speeds you can throw them. You'd do more damage if you grabbed a nearby rock and threw that instead. War darts were a thing, but they were basically short javelins.
@@aarkproductionsThere's a sweet spot for throwing weight depending on biomechanics. A little bullet is too light and a kettlebell is too heavy to make a good missile. (Dropping is different ofc) When you use an atlatl or sling, the longer arm makes it possible to throw light missiles faster - the sweet spot is lighter and more deadly. Bows and crossbows make this effect even stronger even though you lose more energy to internal friction. The sweet spot principle still applies, that's why arrows and bolts need the right weight for the draw weight and length.
i just got into archery your an inspiration and a hero for me i love your videos and want to keep learning about archery and investing into better stuff for me to be able to perform better
I wish that war darts, like the roman Plumbata, were more commonly featured in medieval/fantasy settings, they would be perfect for exactly this sort of situation, where an archer in close combat wants to kill an enemy more quickly than they can nock and shoot an arrow. Only time I've really seen anything like them in popular media is in CW's Arrow.
I throw knives as a hobby. The sidearm flick is kinda hard to pull off, but will get you the most power if you don't have the time/space to properly wind up, works for short distances. The magic accuracy helps. Arrows aren't weighted to be thrown, but if you manage to hit an unarmored bit a thrown arrow would put someone down.
when i was 12 i was the youngest person competing in a “mountain man rendezvous” competition through the boy scouts and i won first place in archery in hatchet throwing and in black powder which where pretty much the main categories but for each one i was given a custom hand crafted wooden arrow with white goose feathers from some artist in canada and it had two kinds of wood in the shaft and target tips. i didn’t have a bow and my brother and i used to throw those incredibly far. we would grab it by the notch and fletching and raise one foot so you body moves in a pendulum and throw it with your arm straight the entire time but swing it overhand with the arrow pointed straight with your arm but swing it like it was the arm of a clock. these arrows would glide forever because the fletching caused them to turn really well. i’ve always been really good at throwing a frisbee but i could throw those arrows further maybe 500ft and i can only throw a frisbee less than 400 ft. i’ve tried it with a few other arrows and it doesn’t work at all. i think if there were an arrow made for throwing that it would be effective.
hugely disappointed that the impact of the last thrown volley isnt shown, but at the same time it got a good laugh out of me I wouldnt have gotten otherwise
Not sure how I ONLY discovered this channel recently, as a writer who is working on a fantasy fiction series, this is valuable information🥰...sort of...not sure if there would ever be a 'need' to throw arrows, but it's interesting nonetheless😅
If you’ve got nothing else but a quiver of arrows and no bows around to make use of ‘em, them the best offensive use of them is to try to use them as stabbing weapons (We’ve had Legolas do this, but he also has useful knives for melee combat), not throwing weapons. The quiver and arrows could be used defensively to ward off a sword blow or two.
Most of us has at some point tried shooting an arrow with the typical low pound kids/toy bow. But seeing warbow-size arrows being thrown like spears? they actually look like they could be used for that purpose xD
Thrown large arrows (not spears) have been used for thousands of years in various forms. Flesh is much more yielding than an archery target, but cool video! I love your stuff!
In shurikenjutsu there is a metal spike like dart that is thrown as an overhand pitch. Ideally you'd fit the butt of the dart in your palm, folding your palm in to cradle it (just reach your thumb toward the base of the pinky,) and rest the shaft between your middle and ring fingers. It has a "slinging" sensation when done right. But again, these are metal darts, not longer wooden arrows.
You could try a technique known as a no-spin, or quarter spin throw in knife throwing. You palm the handle of the knife with your pointer or middle finger down the side of the handle and as you throw you push against the knife with your finger and stabilize the spin. It can still over and underspin, but it's a lot more consistent than just lobbing a knife. You change the amount of force you use to push against the knife with your finger to adjust for length of the knife and distance to the target. Arrows are quite a bit lighter than knives so I don't think you are ever going to get it to be as effective, but may be worth a shot. Heavy throwing knives stick alot easier and hit a lot harder.
Just imagine charging towards someone and they just hurl an entire assload of arrows at you. Sure it might not hurt that much but the intimidation factor alone would make me wanna go home
I have to ask: do you know how to throw knives no-spin? It's a hobby of mine and while I'm not sure how it would work on an arrow with no blade at the sides it might be worth a shot.
I thought that was just another TV show gimmick thing. XD Throwing a knife without spin seems like it would not have much force either. On a spin throw even if the blade end doesnt stick, its still a metal object thrown with serious force, and could still hurt, or hinder depending where it hits. Of course again… like here shown, if a target has on any bit of armor leather lets say for fantasy… or a gambeson… it wont do much, even with the blade most likely.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist Please note that I'm just a person playing with sharp bits of metal not an expert in any way shape or form. It doesn't seem like it would have much force at all, you're right. It's really hard to explain but the easiest way to put it is that the knife is flying with all the centrifugal force of the thrower's arm rather than the force of the knife flipping over itself. On that note, throughout my couple months of playing with different knives I've found that I actually get more force from no spin, but that might just be me. You can look up the videos of (I think) Aaron Judge if you'd like to see a world champion in action! XD Hope this helps!
Can I offer a suggestion? The concept is not half bad. There is a device that archers used back then to throw an arrow by hand, rather than launch it from a bow. It was a long, fairly thin piece of wood, with a divot carved into the wood, where the flight of the arrow would get put. Then, using the piece of wood, they would swing their arm forward, effectively providing a longer arm for throwing the arrow. It’s kind of similar to that plastic scooper arm toy that dog owners buy for throwing tennis balls. If you held the arrow by the back end of the flight, you might be able to make the concept work!! 😊
Hey just an idea, what if you tried throwing the arrow using a no-spin knife throwing technique. Grip the shaft (point facing target) with a loose palm grip and your index finger extended with the tip of it just after the balancing point of the arrow. Then when you throw it, release the palm grip and let the length of the shaft slide along your finger (basically guiding the arrow) and break contact with the arrow just before your finger touches the flights. This technique helps me in throwing a knife with no spin so I thought it might work with an arrow too (I don't have arrows so I can't test it myself). Also, just so you know, the throw won't have a lot of power in it but hopefully enough.
You should use a no spin knife throwing technique, you could get a lot more power and it should actually work pretty well with a sharp tip from a few yards away. Not sure how the fletching might effect the throw but I don't think it would too matter much, might even help it.
You can throw them like the "nospin" knife technique. Hold them a bit father up the shaft, use the side swing technique and use your finger to slide down the shaft, canceling the tumble of the arrow, while still keeping the momentum of the side swing technique. I'm not saying it's more powerful than a bow shot, but it's definitely better than just throwing it like a club.
I feel it’s more about technique. Knife throwing for example. You have to hold the knife in a very specific way and allow your finger to run the spine of the blade after release to stop it from continuing to rotate in the air. Takes a lot of practice and even more to get any meaningful power behind it…. Without it spinning in the air.
It seems she holds it a bit higher than the end… which may b closer to its equilibrium, it may b similar to a no spin technique which is thrown a bit different than the other methods you tried, it is also more powerful, but with a longer and lighter mass per inch I still doubt it will have as much force as a smaller object meant for no spin… so it’s still not practical
I seriously want to know the science behind why the individual “javelin thrown” arrows don’t penetrate the shirt but 1 or 2 did when the whole quiver was thrown. Like, whaaaat?
I'd guess it's one (or both) of 2 things: 1- it's actually quite hard to put your full weight behind a throw if the thing you're holding is very light and narrow, so you can actually throw the bunch a lot harder. 2- the odds of penetrating the shirt were low but not zero. Throw enough arrows and some of them will find a gap in the weave.
The reason why Susan decided in the end that Narnia wasn't real and all of her experiences there was just playing with her siblings in their childhood is she remembered this moment and went "Naaah, that couldn't have actually happened, it's far too silly!"
You didn’t mention it but I’m sure you noticed: when you threw the whole quiver at once, one arrow did actually stick through the wool shirt, probably not enough to change the “non-lethal” part, but I imagine they’d want to get it looked at sooner rather than later if they could, and it might hamper their ability to pursue you even if their will to try is still strong.
Other factors may be at play to make it impossible but distance is a factor when it comes to rotation I know knife throwers often stand at fixed locations when the throw because they know how many rotations their knives will travel during a rotation and usually place themselves about the distance it would take for their knives to rotate enough to stick into a target. It looks like she was 10 to 15 ft away in the clip.
Generally magic enchantments add some minimal amount of “magical hardening/sharpening/honking enhancement” just innately. As well, magic items generally have to already be of high enough quality material to not asplode from the magical force out into it. Finally, I doubt her intended target was the armor instead of dude underneath.
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Throwing a whole quiver-worth of arrows instead of shooting them looks like an ultimate insult.
Like "You're not even worth the effort of loading up my bow, Imma just chuck these arrows at you instead" 😂
Like that Rambo parody with Charlie Sheen that throw bullet at the enemy
Am I the only one who saw one arrow pierce the shirt and stick in the target when he did that?
@StormTheSquid 2 of them did but it's not gonna go very deep or do any damage. You're more likely to kill them by infection rather than bleed-out considering the depth they entered to
@@codedsky Still, he said they wouldn't even pierce, but they did anyway
I always just accepted that she’s able to do the arrow throw because of the enchantment and that it’s realistically impractical 🤷🏻
Magic
No kidding?
It's almost exactly what he mentioned at the very beginning.
We can have fun recreating it though.
why she need a bow then?
@@rapidtreal4612style points
I call it bad choreography in a bad movie
If i were a knight and some archer just lobs a quiver full of arrows at me, I'd probably just let him go. Dude's got tenacity i could respect.
Maybe... He let YOU go😏
The archer still has knives for melee distance
Like the scene is saving private Ryan where the two guys run out of ammo and just throw their helmets at each other.
If your bow is broken in a combat scenario I think the best course of action is not to be concerned with how much ammo you have left lol
That depends. If you don’t have another weapon you might be better off keeping the arrows to use in close quarters. I imagine _stabbing_ someone with an arrow is pretty effective under the right circumstances.
@@Amaranthyne It's actually not I believe he has another video where he showcases him stabbing a target with an arrow and explains that due to the very flimsy nature of the arrow it's actually very impractical.
@@unordinary2715 I imagine it did more damage than throwing it. I’m not saying it’s ideal, but I also think it’s better than being *unarmed.
*as a person without extensive training in unarmed combat.
@@Amaranthynehe showcased that it can be effective if you have heavy thick arrows but lighter arrows don't do anything just like the thrown ones in this video
@@he3004 Bet the light ones work fine if you aim for the eyes.
Came for the D&D content, stayed for the educational and funny content. 😁
Thank you!
Same here
RIP wool shirt. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten.
Great video!
Thanks! That shirt had it coming tbh- so itchy!
It seems like the reason this happens in movies is that the filmmakers are for some reason under the impression that you can't shoot a bow point-blank
I think it's mostly for variation. They don't want the archer to just continuously shoot arrows for a few minutes every time there's a fight. To make it more interesting, they add variation by pretending that the archer doesn't have time to shoot efficiently.
@@9nikolai
The weird thing about this is that archers should realistically carry knifes or daggers or some close melee weapon to kind of solve this problem. Imagine the enemy gets too close and she pulls out two saxe knifes. Metal
@@seraphywang4638 Yeah but when they want an archer character, they don't want the archer character to constantly not use their archery.
Its simply a matter of fantasy filling.
where general viewership wants to see the role by what it mainly is
you see an Archer you want it to do Archery
in some animations and even in Avengers 1 with Hawkeye (after he runs out of arrows), there's cases where they'll make the bow also be armored so that it can be used melee wise but always keep the usage of the bow/arrow at all times
Its just common trope
Viewers tend to eat because average viewers dont really consider that a character, save for sword wielders or an inherently dual wielder; would be wielding secondary weaponry
and movies adapt to that public view so Fantasy stays by what it is: a fantasy
Lord of the Rings movies go opposite that, with scenes like Legolas shooting the cave troll or Lurtz against Boromir
Throwing normal arrows might the least scary thing you can do with them. Still very nice content! (I also think throwing arrows looks pretty stupid. If your bow is broken, grab your sidearm like a dagger or sword or mace.)
Also, HAVE a sidearm in the first place, so you can use it when someone gets too close or you run out of arrows or your bow breaks.
Or a .45 Colt according to some stuff I've seen. I'm not sure what game that is, but that had me crying laughing. Lol.
@@khrashingphantom9632 According to several sources in the Bundeswehr the P1 pistol was all about throwing it. 8 warning shots, one deadly throw, because it was that inaccurate.
@@HereticalKitsune Is that the game or are you being serious? Lol. I just know I saw 2 knights sword fighting then one pulls out a pistol and just freaking shoots him. Lol. I haven't laughed that hard in a while. 😂.
@@khrashingphantom9632 Yes, I have talked with several vets and they all told me the P1 sucks big time. P8 is pretty good, tho.
The Romans used hand thrown plumbata, which were roughly the size of lawn darts, but they added lead weights to give them enough heft for a useful terminal effect. There aren't any complete surviving examples but a few of the iron head and lead weights have survived and modern reconstructions have each of them weight about 4-5 ounces. The Todd's Workshop channel did a couple of video's about them linked below.
ruclips.net/video/EfgMfSZiQSU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/vNlgb79A4mM/видео.html
Yeah as someone more skilled in thrown weapons there are a lot of flaws with his testing not least of whuch is his arrow heads are entirely wrong, her arrows are bladed tips not conical if I remember correctly and that's a HUGE difference
@@ConstantChaos1i feel ive seen you before, in the Click's channel perhaps?
@foxinabox5103 that's a solid assumption I'm all over there
Flat throwing plumbata directly at someone isn't that trustworthy either. There's no time for them to steady themselves in the air and half the time your victim just gets bonked with the weight.
@@Ithirahad Todd's Workshop did another test using a javelin thrower from a local college athletics team (see the link below). He threw the plumbata gripping the base like a lawn dart and like a regular javelin (at two forty in the video). Even thrown from the base it didn't take long to correct.
ruclips.net/video/xK96h2dyJfI/видео.html
I interpret the movie scene as showing not only the enchantment on the Santa gifted gear, but hinting at the superhuman power that the Pevenseys would come to wield as they grew into their roles as Kings & Queens.
In some of the later books they pull off some pretty crazy stuff, well into superhero/demigod/mythic character turf!
Oh that's actually a good point! In the books it's stated that being in Narnia changes the Pevensies. They run faster, can run farther, laugh louder, and just...have more life in them. (In the movies it never explicitly said so I'm not sure if it's a plot point in the movie)
It's part of why being back in England is such a shock I would imagine, because they're not only losing their friends/home/leadership roles, but they've also become...something different.
Even just a few hours in Narnia can change them. In Prince Caspian, a few nights into their return to Narnia, Peter has the thought that he can run faster and further and with surer footing, far beyond what he could do in a simple footrace in England. That they've traveled so much in the past day and they're only able to do so because they're in Narnia and stronger, while they don't have the capability to travel as far in England
I love that you always end these videos on impractical tricks by giving a legitimate use case for them.
These videos are wonderful. Recommending them to all my fantasy writer friends.
Thanks 😁
I’m here as a fantasy writer very interested in archery!! Nice to see that we’re on your mind XD
This guy is educating me on the powers of wool shirts.
I have worn wool sweaters here and there and mine would have done almost nothing for me if someone attacked me with a pointy object
I recognized this guy for the "How D&D classes shoot Arrows" video, I don't know why is never occurred to me that he did other cool things but I'm here for it now
I like how he mentioned the enchantment on the arrows. now you know for sure that the arrow throw was executed with Magic assist on XD although, not sure if that guy probably died. He more likely fainted seeing the arrow stuck there XD
Wow! I love your full dedication to each “arrow thing” you tackle. Even sacrificing a wool shirt! 😂😘
A quick thought, though.
Back when I was learning knife throwing I realized that the best approach was to kind of hold it by the middle, with the index and middle finger up on the dull edge. Then, throw and release, allowing the back of the knife to sort of glide under the riff between those two fingers, as to establish balance from the get-go.
With arrows it should be easier. I know I might've not made it super clear as I am not a native english speaker, but if you happen to see this reply and want a demo, let me know and I'll upload a video about it and tell you when it's up. I would really like to see you trying that strategy!
Yess, I would love to see the video!!!
"You won't escape me, your bow is broken!"
*"YEET"*
"Do not throw the arrow that returns against you." -some ancient proverb
I don't think you'll have anything to worry about...
You CAN actually throw arrows effectively with something like an atlatl. Obviously they didn't have one of those in Narnia and sometimes the arrows or darts are different, but it would be cool to see you test oflne of those!
Spear chucking is a thing right?
But arrows are maybe too flimsy
@@aarkproductions Arrows just don't have enough mass to do much at the speeds you can throw them. You'd do more damage if you grabbed a nearby rock and threw that instead. War darts were a thing, but they were basically short javelins.
that's more launching than throwing, but yea atlatls are freaking sweet
@@aarkproductionsThere's a sweet spot for throwing weight depending on biomechanics. A little bullet is too light and a kettlebell is too heavy to make a good missile. (Dropping is different ofc)
When you use an atlatl or sling, the longer arm makes it possible to throw light missiles faster - the sweet spot is lighter and more deadly. Bows and crossbows make this effect even stronger even though you lose more energy to internal friction.
The sweet spot principle still applies, that's why arrows and bolts need the right weight for the draw weight and length.
@@jordanrodrigues1279 I see
But cavemen couldnt of know any of that went throwing spears
i just got into archery your an inspiration and a hero for me i love your videos and want to keep learning about archery and investing into better stuff for me to be able to perform better
I wish that war darts, like the roman Plumbata, were more commonly featured in medieval/fantasy settings, they would be perfect for exactly this sort of situation, where an archer in close combat wants to kill an enemy more quickly than they can nock and shoot an arrow.
Only time I've really seen anything like them in popular media is in CW's Arrow.
I appreciate you bringing up the enchantment. A lot of other youtubers and such just dont mention stuff like that and end up sounding ignorant.
Rules are different when your arrows are magic.
I mean, I still wouldn't want to get hit in the chest with a quiver full of arrows anyway
I throw knives as a hobby. The sidearm flick is kinda hard to pull off, but will get you the most power if you don't have the time/space to properly wind up, works for short distances. The magic accuracy helps. Arrows aren't weighted to be thrown, but if you manage to hit an unarmored bit a thrown arrow would put someone down.
That cut at the end, whyyyy
I’ve been wandering how practical it is ever since I see the movie! Thanks!
Aside from all of the amazing stuff you do, your editing is really impressive
This has the same energy as running out of bullets so you throw the gun at Superman.
Just discovered this channel and its awesome!
TLDR, If you could get them to point at the target after a fast swing, it should be possible, but you won't so it isn't.
You would have be super human or the main character
You’re bloody awesome, thank you for your videos!!
I love these videos. You are easily my favorite archery twink.
there's also the issue of stabbing someone with an arrow and then pulling it out without breaking it. The first victim was still moving (if falling).
when i was 12 i was the youngest person competing in a “mountain man rendezvous” competition through the boy scouts and i won first place in archery in hatchet throwing and in black powder which where pretty much the main categories but for each one i was given a custom hand crafted wooden arrow with white goose feathers from some artist in canada and it had two kinds of wood in the shaft and target tips. i didn’t have a bow and my brother and i used to throw those incredibly far. we would grab it by the notch and fletching and raise one foot so you body moves in a pendulum and throw it with your arm straight the entire time but swing it overhand with the arrow pointed straight with your arm but swing it like it was the arm of a clock. these arrows would glide forever because the fletching caused them to turn really well. i’ve always been really good at throwing a frisbee but i could throw those arrows further maybe 500ft and i can only throw a frisbee less than 400 ft. i’ve tried it with a few other arrows and it doesn’t work at all. i think if there were an arrow made for throwing that it would be effective.
I don’t know the universe for me. But this guy is still awesome to watch and listen to.
hugely disappointed that the impact of the last thrown volley isnt shown, but at the same time it got a good laugh out of me I wouldnt have gotten otherwise
0:21 love the delivery here got me cracking up 😂❤
So, Rule of Cool on arrow throwing; got it! Thank you for posting.
I like how an arrow actually stuck when throwing all of them.
The answers I needed
Not sure how I ONLY discovered this channel recently, as a writer who is working on a fantasy fiction series, this is valuable information🥰...sort of...not sure if there would ever be a 'need' to throw arrows, but it's interesting nonetheless😅
If you’ve got nothing else but a quiver of arrows and no bows around to make use of ‘em, them the best offensive use of them is to try to use them as stabbing weapons (We’ve had Legolas do this, but he also has useful knives for melee combat), not throwing weapons.
The quiver and arrows could be used defensively to ward off a sword blow or two.
Throwing the whole quiver's worth is actually pretty awesome. Seems like a good distraction so you can start running.
"Do with that information what you will."
[Starts yeeting handfulls of arrows at people]
Congratulations: you have discovered the javelin.
I didn't realize I needed this 😁
Remember, hurling your entire quiver of arrows is always faster than reloading
This dude looks really comfortable
Unless you're a monster hunter character, then instead of throwing your arrow you can just use it like a spear
Most of us has at some point tried shooting an arrow with the typical low pound kids/toy bow.
But seeing warbow-size arrows being thrown like spears? they actually look like they could be used for that purpose xD
Thrown large arrows (not spears) have been used for thousands of years in various forms. Flesh is much more yielding than an archery target, but cool video! I love your stuff!
In shurikenjutsu there is a metal spike like dart that is thrown as an overhand pitch. Ideally you'd fit the butt of the dart in your palm, folding your palm in to cradle it (just reach your thumb toward the base of the pinky,) and rest the shaft between your middle and ring fingers.
It has a "slinging" sensation when done right. But again, these are metal darts, not longer wooden arrows.
Thanks mate !! I will remember that for the next time I go to a war.
You could try a technique known as a no-spin, or quarter spin throw in knife throwing. You palm the handle of the knife with your pointer or middle finger down the side of the handle and as you throw you push against the knife with your finger and stabilize the spin. It can still over and underspin, but it's a lot more consistent than just lobbing a knife. You change the amount of force you use to push against the knife with your finger to adjust for length of the knife and distance to the target. Arrows are quite a bit lighter than knives so I don't think you are ever going to get it to be as effective, but may be worth a shot. Heavy throwing knives stick alot easier and hit a lot harder.
Susan herself is a straight shooter, and it is impossible for her arrows to behave differently
I won't ever do anything with that information but I'm glad i have it
"Who threw this thing at me? ... Baby."
Keep in mind that their strength and endurance increased when they are in Narnia compaired to their reality. Same as with their intelligence.
I'm sitting here thinking "oh yea...those movies do exist"
I guess a thrown quiver will be good at getting someone to flinch.
God that was such a good book.
Long Big War Darts: are we a joke?
Spears with fancy feathers: are we a joke?
Thank you for debunking this movie for me, I thought it was legitimately possible 🤣
Just imagine charging towards someone and they just hurl an entire assload of arrows at you. Sure it might not hurt that much but the intimidation factor alone would make me wanna go home
I have to ask: do you know how to throw knives no-spin? It's a hobby of mine and while I'm not sure how it would work on an arrow with no blade at the sides it might be worth a shot.
I thought that was just another TV show gimmick thing. XD
Throwing a knife without spin seems like it would not have much force either.
On a spin throw even if the blade end doesnt stick, its still a metal object thrown with serious force, and could still hurt, or hinder depending where it hits.
Of course again… like here shown, if a target has on any bit of armor leather lets say for fantasy… or a gambeson… it wont do much, even with the blade most likely.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist Please note that I'm just a person playing with sharp bits of metal not an expert in any way shape or form.
It doesn't seem like it would have much force at all, you're right. It's really hard to explain but the easiest way to put it is that the knife is flying with all the centrifugal force of the thrower's arm rather than the force of the knife flipping over itself.
On that note, throughout my couple months of playing with different knives I've found that I actually get more force from no spin, but that might just be me.
You can look up the videos of (I think) Aaron Judge if you'd like to see a world champion in action! XD
Hope this helps!
Me imagining someone yelling~~your not even worth my bow and just throws the arrow instead 😂😂
This is what it looks like when your dad doesnt teach you to throw a ball
That type of throwing I remember as a type of throw you can do with throwing knives
1:04 bro pulled out the Riekling Spears
I don't know why I'm watching this, I'm not going to throw arrows, but thanks for such cool and detailed explanation
Can I offer a suggestion? The concept is not half bad. There is a device that archers used back then to throw an arrow by hand, rather than launch it from a bow. It was a long, fairly thin piece of wood, with a divot carved into the wood, where the flight of the arrow would get put. Then, using the piece of wood, they would swing their arm forward, effectively providing a longer arm for throwing the arrow. It’s kind of similar to that plastic scooper arm toy that dog owners buy for throwing tennis balls. If you held the arrow by the back end of the flight, you might be able to make the concept work!! 😊
Hey just an idea, what if you tried throwing the arrow using a no-spin knife throwing technique.
Grip the shaft (point facing target) with a loose palm grip and your index finger extended with the tip of it just after the balancing point of the arrow. Then when you throw it, release the palm grip and let the length of the shaft slide along your finger (basically guiding the arrow) and break contact with the arrow just before your finger touches the flights.
This technique helps me in throwing a knife with no spin so I thought it might work with an arrow too (I don't have arrows so I can't test it myself). Also, just so you know, the throw won't have a lot of power in it but hopefully enough.
You should use a no spin knife throwing technique, you could get a lot more power and it should actually work pretty well with a sharp tip from a few yards away. Not sure how the fletching might effect the throw but I don't think it would too matter much, might even help it.
You can throw them like the "nospin" knife technique. Hold them a bit father up the shaft, use the side swing technique and use your finger to slide down the shaft, canceling the tumble of the arrow, while still keeping the momentum of the side swing technique. I'm not saying it's more powerful than a bow shot, but it's definitely better than just throwing it like a club.
I feel it’s more about technique.
Knife throwing for example. You have to hold the knife in a very specific way and allow your finger to run the spine of the blade after release to stop it from continuing to rotate in the air. Takes a lot of practice and even more to get any meaningful power behind it…. Without it spinning in the air.
Susan... This isn't lawn darts okay?!
It seems she holds it a bit higher than the end… which may b closer to its equilibrium, it may b similar to a no spin technique which is thrown a bit different than the other methods you tried, it is also more powerful, but with a longer and lighter mass per inch I still doubt it will have as much force as a smaller object meant for no spin… so it’s still not practical
You gotta use centrifugal force and let it slide out of your hand while having your hand guide the arrow to its target.
Better to use them as a club
He cut the end because he threw the arrows through the target with his power.
throwing a whole quiver of arrows look soo cool! despite it being very desperate.. !
I seriously want to know the science behind why the individual “javelin thrown” arrows don’t penetrate the shirt but 1 or 2 did when the whole quiver was thrown. Like, whaaaat?
I'd guess it's one (or both) of 2 things:
1- it's actually quite hard to put your full weight behind a throw if the thing you're holding is very light and narrow, so you can actually throw the bunch a lot harder.
2- the odds of penetrating the shirt were low but not zero. Throw enough arrows and some of them will find a gap in the weave.
The reason why Susan decided in the end that Narnia wasn't real and all of her experiences there was just playing with her siblings in their childhood is she remembered this moment and went "Naaah, that couldn't have actually happened, it's far too silly!"
"Do with that information what you will"... Mostly, I'll just recall it from my brain for memory entertainment 😂
Ah yes, the "end them rightly" of the archery world.
It will leave you without any arrows. But with a broken bow, you won’t be needing those arrows anyway
She’s lucky to have magic arrows then
Dude, they are magical arrows given to her by Santa Claus!
The extra mass of a broadhead might make this a bit more possible
I picture your neighbour peering through your fence, watching you hucking dozens of arrows over and over again with bow in hand hahaha
You didn’t mention it but I’m sure you noticed: when you threw the whole quiver at once, one arrow did actually stick through the wool shirt, probably not enough to change the “non-lethal” part, but I imagine they’d want to get it looked at sooner rather than later if they could, and it might hamper their ability to pursue you even if their will to try is still strong.
If your bow breaks, just draw your daggers or sword from its scabbard.
"It looks incredibly cool"
Does it? 😂
Honey, the neighbor is throwing arrows at a target again…. No, he’s got the bow in his hand…. Now he just lobbed the whole quiver…
Im imagining if u live with family and ur family just see u throwing arrows everywhere the absolute confusion in their faces xD
Other factors may be at play to make it impossible but distance is a factor when it comes to rotation I know knife throwers often stand at fixed locations when the throw because they know how many rotations their knives will travel during a rotation and usually place themselves about the distance it would take for their knives to rotate enough to stick into a target. It looks like she was 10 to 15 ft away in the clip.
Distracted by the fact this guy has an uncanny resemblance to Nicholas Hoult
Generally magic enchantments add some minimal amount of “magical hardening/sharpening/honking enhancement” just innately. As well, magic items generally have to already be of high enough quality material to not asplode from the magical force out into it.
Finally, I doubt her intended target was the armor instead of dude underneath.