tbh it was unfair for Jun's team too. the rules were too vague. they should've put a minimum and maximum amount for the price. This way, it would be entertaining because the difference wouldn't have been too big. e.g. each member should have a total of 1M worth in total. because, realistically speaking, Mingyu's team would've won right away if they just wrote his original plan (-5,000 won, etc.)
Everyone's talking about Mingyu and Jeonghan. Meanwhile, Hoshi is contemplating about the Mousebusters episode where he didn't get enough screentime. And in the Mousebusters episode, he was thinking about the booster he didn't get.
okay but is nobody thinking about how seokmin was like “the director wouldn’t betray us, right? he won’t betray us?” like sldfkjs TRUST YOUR GUT INSTINCT SEOKMIN
Reminds me of Don't Lie 1 when He was the only one who questioned if Mingyu was a citizen. And Woozi said he was insane for thinking that 🤣🤣 turns out he was right. Always trust Seokmin's gut feeling
YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE REASON WHY JEONGHAN AND MINGYU SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SAME TEAM. The way their brain works it's different but so f awesome also wonwoo damn
jeonghan's disbelief when dino, vernon, and woozi got caught in the first round lmao thats why he came up with a strategy in the end.... he never disappoints he clever af
Yoon Jeonghan is crazy lucky like the universe favors him. At this point the only thing that could bring Yoon Jeonghan down is Hybe's face verification.
Not so underrated but the reason it has low views is because when this episode aired, a lot of people got mad at the PDs HAHAHAHAHAHHA i got annoyed but a show is a show.
Jeonghan was probably one who has a plot twist words running in his mind always, this show will never end until he releases his twisted mindset. At first I thought he’d be playing fair. Its so fun to watch this over and over AHAHHAHHAH
What I love about him it's that he will do ANYTHING to make his team win and he never betrays his partnes (even if they're on different teams, if you partner with him, he won't betray you and will do whatever to make you win, like cheat). And here it's the perfect example, he was 100% playing fairly until the first round ended and he saw there was no way they were winning, so he came up with a plan to do it.
Jeonghan negotiated with PD without batting an eyelid. He is genius when it comes to manipulating/utilizing people for this kinda game. Good thing he is a good person.
Negotiated with PD and bribe them is really not a genius thing. It's cheating. But yeahh we know that all on this episode had been planned by their team creative, so we can blame jeonghan. Still, i hope they giving us an episode without jeonghan being cheating, bcs of him, i can predict the ending of this episode
@@sophietecle2991 LOLL of course thats make sense.. So you really think that all this going episode is just a pure of 13 adult people playing around without direction from PD nim?of course not, that's how they get money from carat/cubic view who enjoy going episode.. But for this one I think they are a bit too much to use jeonghan to bribe to get duration
@@fernandaadriana3083 yes Jeonghan cheated, but so did the other team. They agreed with the deal the pd gave them. If they had denied, I would agree Mingyu's team should have won. But they both cheated, it cancels each other out.
I honestly was expecting Jun and Jeonghan One is sharp and the other is manipulative. But I really wasn’t expecting the PD to be bribed. I swear Seventeen’s staff is as crazy as them and us.
"hyunseok wont betray us...right?" dk having the BEST instincts and gut feelings about people and their true nature but not having enough esteem to go through with them (hence why he always questions himself) I really love dk with all my heart like he captures my attention every single time and honestly seeing his pure and alluring smile just makes my heart go all soft
The audience being divided between wanting a clean game and being in awe of jeonghan's con artistry is exactly what makes GoSe entertaining. The fact that you have 13 people who are different in philosophies and mindsets all together in a battle of wits, physicality, and even charisma is what keeps people coming back for more. In the end, it's all just a game, but what makes it fun is that it's Seventeen playing it.
Mingyu cheated too but S.Coups and Jeonghan has a better bribe. Mingyu did tell the director he will give him 20% of pot money if he will leak the other team strategy.The director betrayed him because Jeonghan and S.Coups did raised the bribed to 60%.😂😂😂 Both them cheated,but the director betrayed the Mingyu team
@@caribbeanstudies5340 Nah, what the need Seventeen eduquate you doing cheating??..on their show??.. thats not that way.. you are wrong perception about this game. no body cheated here... , here you learn how to think smart. Not to think cheat. You are has a wrong mind set about Seventeen especially toward Jeonghan. he is not a cheater. but the smart thinker.
Idk why he keeps repeating that when he obviously always gets a lot of screen time when members like wonwoo is on the screen less than 20% of gose episodes
@@caribbeanstudies5340 I guess he's just so passionate with his work that he makes sure that every effort he exerts will be worth it😆 love him for that
I'm telling you guys, having Scoups and Jeonghan in the same team is already a real deal, but if you have Scoups, Jeonghan, Mingyu, and Wonwoo together in one team, this team will be unstoppable. Having Mingyu and Wonwoo' strategies, Jeonghan' wittiness and Scoups as strength plus how his mind work, it's time to be scared and back out from the game....these 4 are so scary to fight with in both mind and strength games...
That scene where jeonghan is watching everyone down the building and guiding his team where is who-he freaking looks like a mastermind controlling his dummies. Also for ppl still butthurt about the cheating part, the PD lured Gyu's team in a pretense of making the show fun -once again showcasing how sly yoon jeonghan's mind works. Hes my main reason why i watch gose episodes over and over again
Every competitive Going Seventeen episode is always "How Do We Outsmart Yoon Jeonghan" and I think that's what makes it more exciting and more challenging for them and also for us Carats. Mingyu's Team really did their best - they were /almost/ there when they agreed to make a deal with the PD - it's just that Jeonghan is always thinking a couple of steps ahead. I'd like to think Jeonghan is training them to become smarter.
Jeonghan pulled tricks everytime he can and to think svt already living together for years but still fall into his trick is actually scary, he's so gifted
@@tarutariya5313 it is because all of the seventeen is NF type while jeonghan is the only one with SF so that means he is more aware of his surroundings and more practical and strategic than the others. He can trick all of them easily because all of the seventeen is pure intuition and he is the only one that can sense lol
It doesn't matter if his team is currently losing, if they're weaker physically or mentally, if they're playing fair or cheating, Yoon Jeonghan will always win.
at the end of the day, jeonghan is literally one of the pillars in going seventeen. no one can deny how fun he makes these episodes....so many plot twists and legendary scenes thanks to him... he's amazing
for me it’s jeonghan and jun holding up gose, the effortlessly funny things that come out of juns mouth never fail to make me laugh, and ofc yoon jeonghan
wow dk is so considerate with myungho taking pictures of the sunset like they're not shooting plus the way they hyped jun when he caught six of them is so wholesome. svt really treats their china line well
Lmao why is this so accurate? In a way, both of them are impressive, working hard is an important quality to have and working smart is a really useful one that doesn't always come to everyone
Nah Mingyu actually both Work smart and work hard, he's thinking smartly even the members said Mingyu is the brain of svt he's the smartest and won the brain games many times, Jeonghan is more street smart and know how to trick etc
@@dxnce7593 svt members said Jeonghan is the smartest though. It's just that Mingyu is also one of the smartest as well Mingyu had the dexterity while Jeonghan is tricky and unpredictable.
*THE WORLD WAS JUST GLAD, THAT JEONGHAN BECOME AN IDOL, AND NOT BECOME AN ATTY UNDER INTELLIGENCE OF A CERTAIN GROUP, THAT MUST BE HARD IF YOU PASS THE PATH WITH HIM*
things you learn in this gose episode: - s.coups' switches between being a prey and a predator is like second nature - jonghan is really scary good in scheming - joshua just wanted to win against the seunghan tandem - jun used his power of "redirection" to be one with nature - hoshi cannot be average; he's either too good at hiding that no one can find him or too bad that he gets caught in just a few seconds - wonwoo's speed is not to be underestimated; also, he is easy to corrupt - wooji just want to have fun but not get tired (let the guy rest!) - dokyeom is too honest for his own good - mingyu is too good-natured to be a schemer but, still, a schemer nonetheless - the8 will always find a way to reach a higher ground - seungkwan really loves vernon and dino - vernon is so chill no one notices he was still hiding until the last minute - dino really is their baby until to this day; its subtle but you can see it that he loves how they take care of him and give him attention
근데 뭔가 게임으로만 넘기기엔 돈도 걸려있고 승패가 있는건데 아무리 준팀이 pd매수 먼저 했다지만 제작진이 민규팀한테 먼저 분량 목적으로 스파이 제안하고 속이면 민규팀 애들은 열심히 해봤자 반칙이나 꼼수가 짱이다는 인식이 생기니까…ㅠ 보물섬때도 그렇고… 진짜 멤버들끼리만 머리 써서 개입없이 반전 보는게 더 재밌을거 같아요 원우 속상해하는거 맴아파
no because wonwoo is jeonghan’s greatest enemy when it comes to mind games. it’s just so satisfying everytime they’re against each other and i think it would be really difficult and dirty for the members when they team up together. 🤣
MinWon in same team is probably the best and most likely combination to win against JeongCheol (actually, they would win if "fairplay" existed in Jeonghan's dictionary)
@@anime-ye1qs exactly!! but since jeonghan is almost always cheating, so we probably won't see minwon winning a lot in the future😂 but then again jeonghan is the one who makes games more fun even if it's not fair lol
@@minttea4503 ikr Jeonghan cheating basically is a daily occurence in GoSe now - he can literally cheat even in contents where one would wonder if it's even possible to cheat
wonwoo really got that sexc brain and u can see it from him in literally every gose eps out there especially these mind games 😭 hes so attractive like damn. and tru @anime when wonwoo n mingyu work together it just gets even more powerful like the way they play these games is just so satisfying to watch 😭 imagine them + jeonghan it’s over 😭
As I always say jeonghan is unpredictable, and that's what makes gose so brain twisting, funny and thriller. He deserves an award for his smartness. I'm still on awe about how he played them no wonder everyone wants jeonghan in their team lmao... Mingyu had smart plan in small scale but jeonghan played it on high scale.
Jeonghan trying to calm everyone and misdirect everyone from his bribing schemes by saying, 'let's all forget about this and sit down and have nice delicious meat with the money we earned' is so cunning lol I love him.
He is just saying it is a game let’s move on. Why is everyone forgetting that Mingyu bribed the PD too. Just Jeonghan gave a bigger incentive for PD to choose them. Mingyu not succeeding in his scheme does not erase he scheme too.
@@kellypope9682 i’m not trying to defend either of them cuz they all are precious to me but the difference between mingyu and jeonghan was that pdnim approached mingyu’s team by asking them to make the content fun and to increase their sum and if they do follow pdnim’s suggestion, he’ll act as a spy for them. here, we can’t forget that mingyu didn’t think of cheating in the first place, it was pd’s idea whereas jeonghan was the one who proposed the whole spy and incentive thingy in the other team’s case.
@@maitreyeebhargude195 still, Mingyu team accepted the offer so both teams cheated. He could have declined the offer because they were winning anyway but he didn't. It's not like the PD forced them to accept. The game could have just ended with them winning and could have played extra games to lengthen the episode. If Mingyu team was really worried about the content in the first place, then they shouldn't have played safe. Mingyu team's strategy was good, but anyone who would have gone 2nd would also think of that strategy tbh.
@kellypope9682 isn't it!!! Bro it's 2024, I still enjoy Jeonghan's lethal intelligence in this episode with the same energy that I had when I watched this for the first time. I mean disliking someone just because of his "unmatched and literally unreachable intelligence" is wild. I can't comprehend it!!
@@maitreyeebhargude195 Kim Mingyu consented to the PD's plan to gain insight into the opposing team's stocks, effectively agreeing to cheat without realizing it was a trap set by the other team. His willingness to cheat alongside PD is undeniable, as he had the option to decline but chose not to. This intention of him to cheat can't be disputed and nobody can say that he didn't "intend" and all. On the other hand, Jeonghan exhibits a different kind of genius - one that's ruthless and strategic, always prioritizing victory over emotions. In contrast, Mingyu's approach is more cautious and diligent, yet emotionally immature at times. Both display unique forms of intelligence, with Mingyu's being more risk-averse and Jeonghan's being boldly cunning as well as brilliant. Jeonghan masterfully turns the game into a 'SHOW', expertly playing and outdoing all others. ❣️🔥
Istg Dino have the purest heart 42:21 .. the way he feel bad & didn't know how to react with the situation make me love him even more.. Our precious maknae ever.. 🤍🤍
Exactly.. only the maknae felt bad about betraying the other team meanwhile the hyungs were convincing it's just a game.. Think about it, even if its just a game, if you are in mingyu's team, how much u would have felt utterly betrayed.. I don't deny that Jeonghan is a good startegist but.. this episode wasn't that good..
And for those who still can't move on from this episode... I hope you get the part that this is a show, they are Seventeen. They won't break just because of this. They have a stronger bond than we think. Okay? Spread love.
@@abhilipsasahoo6998 His turning into that ‘wattpad leading male character’ a good looking guy who debut as an idol but actually is an elite secret agent of the government who is under a top secret mission and in the process of doing the mission he was discovered one by one by the members and then he recruited the the SVT members eventually 💕💕
Not gonna lie, I high-key wish the Mingyu team had won. But I will also never deny that Jeonghan deserves every bit of success and good luck that he has on all his plans xD He is insane. I bet the world is glad (or sad, depending on who you ask) he chose to sing and perform instead of like, building empires or cracking master plans and stuff. And can we appreciate Minghao being truthful, as always. "The world truly is like that." Such a true and bittersweet note to end on. Man, I love Seventeen and the GoSe team.
Also, I've been reading that there were a lot of hate comments (even though I haven't come across any, thank GOD). But y'all people writing them don't really watch Going Seventeen, do you? Cuz if you did you would know that when they want to play it fair, they play it FAIR (please refer to eps 3 and 4 of GoSe 2021), and when they want their show to be a chaotic cheating mess, they do. Because they can, and it's their show. Y'all need to chill.
@@tequerer8463 yeah I agree with you or maybe some keyboard warriors who only wants to mess around with the carats 😂 you can't bring the carats down who love seventeen so much ❤️❤️❤️
I'm soo behind on watching GoSe but I heard (read) on Twitter that there are people who's mad on Jeonghan and the staffs. And I've been guessing which GoSe episode it is then realized its this episode. I've been a Carat since YMMD and watched GoSe and honestly instead of getting mad I'm amazed. I actually want to reach Jeonghan's intellegence when it comes to games.
@@omniscientview lmaoo yesss and those same people on Twitter failed to realized that the other guy (I dont know all the members names, bc im new) was "cheating" also but only wanted to hate on jeonghan for "cheating"
In this episode, dino is so adorable, he is the only one that has conscience about the strategy you can see it on the ending credit and he is the one who warn seungkwan to be careful when climbing the ladder, he is so kind eventhough dino kind of quiet but still happy in this episode.
the fact that Jeonghan thought of watching other teams positions from the window and Mingyu warning "don't go out yet they can see us" really shows mingyu and jeonghan think almost same except Mingyu is a bit more innocent than Jeonghan is😂
Not at all they think the same bruh...😂 It's just how much they know each other's level of intelligence in every game.... Jeonghan is a Ruthless genius whereas Mingyu is a diligent genius 😅 both are brilliant but they hold a a major emotional difference in it.
Started watching gose svt and i must say i am in love with JEONGHAN. He makes everything so interesting. Its kinda sad that some dumheads are hating him for this. They need to understand that so many people watches gose svt because of this guy ( all members are extremely lovely people too). But hating someone just because of a game is not cool at all. JEONGHAN FIGHTING❤
True true, if he guest in RM and pairing with kwangsoo/ jaesuk/ haha, it will be more interesting and funny. But sad 😔 cause he's not into variety shows much if he's not with his members, haha
Those two are really good kids haha. When Dino said "I dont know how to feel" after they won big time, I can see his innocence. He felt bad but again, its just a game.. Eventho this eps made me absorbed sooo into it lol. As they said "once you're being emotional, you lost", and i think i lost this time hahaha
@@her9271 this happened to me once in an argument, it wasn't that big actually. 70% of that fight is me being overly frustrated and 20% is the other saying how dramatic I am, pretty sure the argument is only 10% lol. it bothers me for so long how the argument ended until I realized that I was probably the only one who's upset of it since I couldn't control my emotion. Even though she's the one who's at wrong, I feel really bad for saying so many mean things to her especially since she's older. If I could somehow meet her in the future, I will totally apologize because I was being unnecessarily rude If anyone actually reading this then thank you so much. I've been troubled by this for a while now and it's nice to finally vent it out
@@her9271 Same here honestly :( I just want to see the team without Jeonghan n Coups win for once without any tricks involved from either parties ahhh I rlly lost this time I became wayyyyy too emotional lol
Dino being the only one feeling a bit guilty and the hyungs just teaching him that this is what World is, was the funniest! Though it doesn't show that Dino is the maknae very often..here it was so evident lol
근데 그래도 애들이 진짜 착한게.. 게임일 뿐!하면서 좀 열심히 한게 서운했을텐데 이쁘게 웃음ㅜㅜ… 내가 민규 팀이였으면 배신감 쩔어서 길길이 화날듯ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 예능 그림을 위해서라고 모든걸 포장하면… 열심히 하는 사람은 그냥 땀만 흘린게 되지만..ㅜ 사실 첫라운드때 금액 정할 때 기준을 정확하게 정했어야하는게 맞음..룰이 허술했음..
이건 감정이 안 상할 수가 없는데... 다들 대단하다 진짜 웬만한 사람이면 정색하고 화냈을 거 같은데 그래도 프로들이라서 저 정도로 넘어가네. 애초에 제작진이 개입하는 거 자체도 별로고, 그것도 준 팀 제안 받아서 손잡아 놓고 민규팀 작정하고 속이려고 먼저 제안하는 것도 너무 비열함. 재밌고 즐겁자고 보는 건데 진짜 이게 뭐야. 보물섬만큼이나 결말이 짜증난다. 그래, 현실에 주가 조작하고 거짓 정보 퍼뜨리는 세력들이 있지. 근데 그건 불법이라서 법에 따라 처벌을 받지. 근데 이런 걸 그냥 이렇게 웃고 넘어가고 끝이라고? 그래서 뭘 말하고 싶은 거야? 시스템이 배신하면 아무리 룰에 따라 정정당당히 플레이해도 결국 농락당하고 패망하게 된다고? 아니면 사기에 넘어간 사람이 잘못인 거라고? 진짜 이래도 돼? 이게 맞아? 이거랑 비슷한 반전 많이 봤지. 지니어스 같은 데서. 근데 거기서 반전이 짜릿하고 재밌는 건 참가자들 사이에서의 딜과 연합이기 때문이지, 거기에 제작진이 끼는 건 말이 안되는 거잖아. 웃고 즐기라고 만든 아이돌 자컨 보고 이러고 있는 내가 더 웃기는 꼴이란 건 알겠는데 그래도 불쾌한 건 어쩔 수 없다.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 개인팬들 물 작작 흐리세요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 버라이어티 게임에서 뭔 형평성이니 공정함이니 하나하나 따지고 앉아있음ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그렇게 따지면 다짜고짜 피디가 주가조작하자고 제안한 상황에, "주가 조작"이라는 단어가 게임 전체에서 적용된다는 사실을 캐치못하고 자기네들한테만 주가 조작을 제안했다고 생각한 게 더 멍청한거임ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 상대팀에게는 주가 조작을 제안 안했을 거라 생각하는 것 자체가ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 니네들이 말하는 넷플 서바이벌 지능게임 같은 거랑 비교해보면, 궤도같이 머리 탑찍는 지능형 애들은 피디가 주가조작이라는 개념을 오픈한 순간에 상대팀에게도 같은 딜이 들어왔겠구나..!라는 사실을 이미 캐치했었다고ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 걍 멤버들끼리 서로서로 장난치고 웃기려고 하는 친목형 예능에서 과몰입해서 진지빨지 마시고 예능은 예능으로 보세요.
Jeonghan is a genius, his sly thinking is what got me into seventeen in the first place. It's so unpredictable and fun every time and always makes me excited. Please know that it's all for entertainment y'all don't take it so seriously, if we didn't have characters like him, the show wouldn't be as fun
the never ending saga between jeonghan and mingyu proving how terrifying their minds can work together with seventeen’s cooperation and the staff is honestly the highlight of GoSe. In every way, no show can compare to how great this is.
@@princessmaelara9769 bro exactly! jeonghan and mingyu are like the perfect definition of street smarts vs book smarts. the combination would be unstoppable.
In the last ep when Dino said he was a “spare” member, even though I understood that it was a joke it made me feel quite sad (because I definitely don’t think so), but he was kindhearted and conscientious to care for Seungkwan, and also feel guilt for the cheating plan… I just want to give him a big warm hug to tell him that he’s the one and only sweetheart;)
At this rate JEONGHAN can be secret agent. He can pretend to be anyone, think fast, convince people so smoothly, be little manipulative. DAMM HE WOULD BE A TOTAL BOSS
@@renatah5680 oh my god same I most of the time root for his team like he strategically plans his own game I understand jeonghan is smart but he wins by cheating I am not hating but Mingyu is the real mastermind 😊
@@WinterXvibes-gaming yes, I understand Jeonghan makes it for the show and to make it fun, but all this makes me appreciate Mingyu's brain and strategizing even more
There are two types of genius: Sly genius-Jeonghan Diligent genius- Mingyu And there's Wonwoo, who's naturally gifted but going to dark path, the future sly genius.
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Mingyu and Wonwoo are smart but they played it too fair without realizing this world is never fair at the beginning lol.
tbh it was unfair for Jun's team too. the rules were too vague. they should've put a minimum and maximum amount for the price. This way, it would be entertaining because the difference wouldn't have been too big. e.g. each member should have a total of 1M worth in total. because, realistically speaking, Mingyu's team would've won right away if they just wrote his original plan (-5,000 won, etc.)
But didn't they try to cheat too? Wasn't it like karma 😂
both teams cheated, the PD just went with the highest bidder😂😂😅
They offered 20% to the PD too, so basically no one played it fair
@@donnalynmata1029 no one played …mingyu’s also offered 20%
In fact mingyu’s were the first to offer money to cheat
Everyone's talking about Mingyu and Jeonghan.
Meanwhile, Hoshi is contemplating about the Mousebusters episode where he didn't get enough screentime. And in the Mousebusters episode, he was thinking about the booster he didn't get.
that got me really laughing 🤣
lmaoo he's so cute lol
True his saga continues
in future episode, he's gonna talk abt how his team was being fooled in this episode
HAHAHAHAHHQQH
no one:
Dk considerately reporting: “well, Minghao is now taking pictures bc the sunset is so beautiful. i ask for your understanding”
Time stamp?
HHHAHAHAAHHA LT
Hahaha Minghao is me, taking a pict of beautiful sunset automatically 😂
True. Hahaha
@@guiamariegelacio1573 33:45
The way Jeonghan flip the game is what I expected, coz I knew he won't give up after his plan in 1st Round failed . He really is a MASTERMIND✨✨
wht r u tryna say@@niesaawaazir
@@niesaawaaziryou've been complaining in every comment section whenever Jeonghan wins. Cry about it if it helps.
@@niesaawaazirdon’t watch lol
Fr otherwise the game was too clear after the 1st match when they caught 3 members that mingyu's team would win 😂😂
Lol what did they say@@teegeedee1651
If Jeonghan wasn’t a celebrity, he might be a genius negotiator or strategist cause he really thinks differently
or a con artist, especially that he's handsome. jk 😂
he’s too handsome to be a normal person…
Ikr
@@kitsidney5906 lmaooooo
Like these typicals boys of k-dramas, that is handsome and have a successful company xd
다 모르겠고 보물섬때부터 원우한테만 무슨일이냐..
사기도 안치고 오로지 실력과 노력으로 해내려고 열심히 뛰어다니는 얘한테
너무 가혹한 에피가 아닌가.. 라는 생각도 드는데 또 제작진으로선 이게 최선이였을수도 있다는 생각도 들고.. 하.. 원우야 넌 진짜 진국이다
그런데도 걍 허허 웃고 끝내는게 참 순하다 싶어요ㅋㅋㅋ
아 진짜요ㅠㅜ 원우는 두번다.. ㅠㅠ
righttttttt
하... 진짜 제 심정 그대로 적어주셨음..
그래도 다음엔 안 봐준다하고 결국 원우가 진짜 사기치진 않는게 너무 좋음... 그렇지만 찐흑화해서 사기치는 모습도 보고싶다ㅋㅋ ㅠㅠ
울 전씨..최고얌..흑륵흑흑
Wonwoo constantly saying hes gonna cheat after every gose competition but not actually cheating WILL ALWAYS BE FUNNY
He keep saying that but is not doing it, is the funniest of all!!!
I'm waiting for the day Wonwoo does cheat.
wonwoo doesn't keep his words smh HAHAHAHAHAH
@@carolynann5634 He is already cheating on me.
SO TRUE
Jeonghan guiding his team from the terrace is one of the coolest in the whole episode 💜🔥
When Jeonghan said, “You want to beat me? At that moment you just lost.” he ain't lying.
This man has an absolutely terrific iq and high thinking- He'd probably pass any exam without studying just by using his brains 💀
When did he say that
@@hihi-bd3jm in the One million won ep
@@iloveadinosaur fr
He can do it with his eyes closed 🤧
okay but is nobody thinking about how seokmin was like “the director wouldn’t betray us, right? he won’t betray us?” like sldfkjs TRUST YOUR GUT INSTINCT SEOKMIN
Reminds me of Don't Lie 1 when He was the only one who questioned if Mingyu was a citizen. And Woozi said he was insane for thinking that 🤣🤣 turns out he was right. Always trust Seokmin's gut feeling
He never learns
nah it's not that the pd would betray them, it's that jeonghan already did lmao
@@kazishuhratjahannavera9537 he's so awesome
YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE REASON WHY JEONGHAN AND MINGYU SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SAME TEAM. The way their brain works it's different but so f awesome also wonwoo damn
AND! I love seeing them fight. They're like lowkey rivals as they're both smart. Only JH is the evil, tricky kind of smart and Mingyu is street smart.
verkwan’s scene on the rooftop is so cute, seungkwan was getting angry and vernon’s giggles 😭😭😭 i love them so much
Broooooo, Jeonghan really owns the quote "Don't work hard, just work smart" He is born with unique intelligence men!
unique intelligence called cheating kkk…
@@jjang5066 it's for entertainment purposes only besides in RL he is truly intelligent 😊
@@jjang5066 are you jealous?? seriously? hahahaha cuz carat always love his intelligence in cheating anyways🤣❤️
@@jjang5066 Only smart people can cheat like him u can't relate 😌he is a MAN with handsome face and smart brain
yes😌
jeonghan's disbelief when dino, vernon, and woozi got caught in the first round lmao thats why he came up with a strategy in the end.... he never disappoints he clever af
my man fr
@@alya6373FR him>>>
That's my bias fr 😅
real, i knew he will get the team’s money back 🗣️‼️‼️🔥🔥💯💯
Yeah he just scratch his head LOL
Yoon Jeonghan is crazy lucky like the universe favors him.
At this point the only thing that could bring Yoon Jeonghan down is Hybe's face verification.
🤣🤣"HYBE'S FACE VERIFICATION" This comment!! 🤣🤣
thats funny omg, tho it's "hybe"
🤣🤣🤣
O MY GOD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dude HAHAHAHAHHA
This is criminally an underrated episode. The brains of Seventeen and Going Seventeen team is really something 🔥
I swear .... I became a carat this year and only watched some really popular episodes...but damn girl this episode was journey!!!
Not so underrated but the reason it has low views is because when this episode aired, a lot of people got mad at the PDs HAHAHAHAHAHHA i got annoyed but a show is a show.
Seventeen everytime they finished shooting gose: DON'T TRUST PEOPLE. THIS IS HOW WORLD WORKS.
Lol
or… team up with jeonghan
soooo TRUE..... but they never FAIL TO FALL FOR HANNIE's cheat cards each time..... seems like they never learn
Okay but Wonwoo and Mingyu work so well together, finding flaws with eachothers plans and working together to make them better with no hesitation
no one:
jun out of the blue: "i'm reporter jun at the scene, hoshi is catching jeonghan"
also jun running away with money check 😂
Juns brain is different..his humor comes out of nowhere 😅
Honestly it would be such a funny skit for them to have Jun go interview different people and it's just svt role playing
Yess I loved that part!
we love Jun's brain
Junhui made the smart move by adding Jeonghan to his team.
jeonghan literally never loses, if he's losing no he's winning somehow
Ikr he's great with strategic gameplay, he just a bit lacking on physical-only game I think
he lose once. and thats it. the power of this boy
@@paarseleeuwin4978 his stamina is kinda like weak but he is so witty
JEONGHAN the great
he’s only losing cuz he wants you to think like that😭
The confidence that Jun’s team has because of Jeonghan an Scoups mentality of “Life with risk” makes them cool
Kmt
Hoshi hiding too well, but always caught quickly, HOSHI'S DESTINY NEVER CHANGE😌
hahaha finally I saw this comment 🤣🤣🤣
He's impatient and is a sucker for screentime 😭
He is a spider, he is a tiger
Hoshi being the smartest idiot to ever exist
@@arpitamukherjee5282 😂🤣🤣🤣
Jeonghan was probably one who has a plot twist words running in his mind always, this show will never end until he releases his twisted mindset. At first I thought he’d be playing fair. Its so fun to watch this over and over AHAHHAHHAH
Im so invested with this show that it got me till 4am watching😢😂😂❤❤
touche! that is why he's my ult bias although they're all my favorite! ^-^
What I love about him it's that he will do ANYTHING to make his team win and he never betrays his partnes (even if they're on different teams, if you partner with him, he won't betray you and will do whatever to make you win, like cheat). And here it's the perfect example, he was 100% playing fairly until the first round ended and he saw there was no way they were winning, so he came up with a plan to do it.
Jeonghan negotiated with PD without batting an eyelid. He is genius when it comes to manipulating/utilizing people for this kinda game. Good thing he is a good person.
Yeah he is Seventeen's Loki when it comes to game. But he is the one who always take care of the members. He loves them so much.
Negotiated with PD and bribe them is really not a genius thing. It's cheating. But yeahh we know that all on this episode had been planned by their team creative, so we can blame jeonghan. Still, i hope they giving us an episode without jeonghan being cheating, bcs of him, i can predict the ending of this episode
@@fernandaadriana3083 you just said it was planned by the creative team, how does that make sense?...
@@sophietecle2991 LOLL of course thats make sense.. So you really think that all this going episode is just a pure of 13 adult people playing around without direction from PD nim?of course not, that's how they get money from carat/cubic view who enjoy going episode.. But for this one I think they are a bit too much to use jeonghan to bribe to get duration
@@fernandaadriana3083 yes Jeonghan cheated, but so did the other team. They agreed with the deal the pd gave them. If they had denied, I would agree Mingyu's team should have won. But they both cheated, it cancels each other out.
김민규가 머리가 진짜 좋은게 상대방의 생각을 파내고 자신의 생각을 하면서 반전의 의견을 내는게 진짜 머리 좋다는거 같고, 주식도 잘하는거 보니까 김민규 두뇌력 좋네 … 윤정한 그에 비해 그 민규 생각을 바꿨으니 완전 김민규 만큼 천재인거고 ..
I honestly was expecting Jun and Jeonghan
One is sharp and the other is manipulative.
But I really wasn’t expecting the PD to be bribed.
I swear Seventeen’s staff is as crazy as them and us.
So we don't know where they hid in the 1st round at all?
Frlll
@Hu E. it might be were the8 and hannie were in the first round in beginning 1st ep
@@shreyadeshmukh3172 but they spotted jeonghan outside and the other members all appeared outside, not inside
@@shreyadeshmukh3172 i was thinking they really went up to where the8 wanted them to hide in the beginning 🤣🤣🤣
흑화한다던 원우가 정정당당한 방법으로 돈라이 우승한걸 보고나니 이 캐치스탁에서 쌓인 울분이 다 씻겨나가는 기분. 오랫만에 다시 봐도 속상한건 속상함
Hoshi: Don't worry about me, because I'm a spider.
Editor: He's a human being
Just a few minutes earlier
Hoshi: This is Tiger :')
That was legend:]
I have a feeling the editors will eventually convert to Hoshi animal cult, because SVT eventually did
@Hu E. spiger
so funny how members ignore him they are used to it
"hyunseok wont betray us...right?"
dk having the BEST instincts and gut feelings about people and their true nature but not having enough esteem to go through with them (hence why he always questions himself) I really love dk with all my heart like he captures my attention every single time and honestly seeing his pure and alluring smile just makes my heart go all soft
THIS 😭💯
Exactly!
The audience being divided between wanting a clean game and being in awe of jeonghan's con artistry is exactly what makes GoSe entertaining. The fact that you have 13 people who are different in philosophies and mindsets all together in a battle of wits, physicality, and even charisma is what keeps people coming back for more. In the end, it's all just a game, but what makes it fun is that it's Seventeen playing it.
more salty fans should read this lmao
위의 글에 동감하는 바이나 마음이 상하는건 상하는거다.
AGREED! I am a carat with just 2 days experience. I've been watching GoSe this whole time. All I can say is no one does it like Seventeen.
Mingyu cheated too but S.Coups and Jeonghan has a better bribe.
Mingyu did tell the director he will give him 20% of pot money if he will leak the other team strategy.The director betrayed him because Jeonghan and S.Coups did raised the bribed to 60%.😂😂😂
Both them cheated,but the director betrayed the Mingyu team
@@claredeguzman4775 if you watch it clearly please it was THE DIRECTOR WHO ASKED FOR 20% FROM MINGYU
MINGYU DIDNT TRIED TO BRIBE HIM ON HIS OWN
YOON JEONGHAN - you're the reason why I always watch "Going Seventeen" with too much interest!!!!!
Same dear!!! He's the ultimate reason for me being way too obsessed in going seventeen 😅😊
same here, I just love the way he play
sameeeee!!!!
Sameeeeee with me😅❤❤❤
The plot twists in going seventeen is better than any kdrama 😂😭
lmao so true😭
for real tho!!! u'll always left in shock... 😭😂🤣
Fr😭😭
@@caribbeanstudies5340
Nah, what the need Seventeen eduquate you doing cheating??..on their show??.. thats not that way.. you are wrong perception about this game. no body cheated here... , here you learn how to think smart. Not to think cheat. You are has a wrong mind set about Seventeen especially toward Jeonghan. he is not a cheater. but the smart thinker.
@@hartarira446 you said a bunch of nothing it’s cheating no matter what you want to say
Hoshi: *worries about his screen time bc he's just hiding*
Also Hoshi: *got more screen time than Joshua & Jun who were running non-stop*
Just gotta say random stuff for content lol
Lol 😂 Our Hoshi 🐅
joshua and jun always get less screen time, vernon and even the 8 and wonwoo too
the louder members always end up getting more
Idk why he keeps repeating that when he obviously always gets a lot of screen time when members like wonwoo is on the screen less than 20% of gose episodes
@@caribbeanstudies5340 I guess he's just so passionate with his work that he makes sure that every effort he exerts will be worth it😆 love him for that
I'm telling you guys, having Scoups and Jeonghan in the same team is already a real deal, but if you have Scoups, Jeonghan, Mingyu, and Wonwoo together in one team, this team will be unstoppable. Having Mingyu and Wonwoo' strategies, Jeonghan' wittiness and Scoups as strength plus how his mind work, it's time to be scared and back out from the game....these 4 are so scary to fight with in both mind and strength games...
I think it should be Jeonghan's strategies. He always win with that like what he did in this ep.
@@loisacustodio whatever it is, if Jeonghan can do it he/his team will win, he almost never lose in every game.
and the fact that theyre in one group as Seventeen makes Seventeen a strong af team
i wanna see them on a team together… i think that that would be such a great show
seungkwan too lol, it may not look like it but he's also smart but unlike 95's liners he's just not cunning ~
That scene where jeonghan is watching everyone down the building and guiding his team where is who-he freaking looks like a mastermind controlling his dummies. Also for ppl still butthurt about the cheating part, the PD lured Gyu's team in a pretense of making the show fun -once again showcasing how sly yoon jeonghan's mind works. Hes my main reason why i watch gose episodes over and over again
and im totally forgot that jun is their captain 😂
okay jeonghan is playing smart but mingyu's brain is wow. he works very hard to win each game. mingyu & wonwoo chemistry is 100%
It doesn't matter who is leader, if Jeonghan is in the team he will be the mastermind.
❤❤
IKR every svt member has a unique way of playing, planning and i'm totally here for it 😂😂😂
Every competitive Going Seventeen episode is always "How Do We Outsmart Yoon Jeonghan" and I think that's what makes it more exciting and more challenging for them and also for us Carats. Mingyu's Team really did their best - they were /almost/ there when they agreed to make a deal with the PD - it's just that Jeonghan is always thinking a couple of steps ahead. I'd like to think Jeonghan is training them to become smarter.
THIS
YES
I need Jeonghan in my life
gosh jeonghan is such a mastermind… he’s always a couple of steps ahead?!
jeonghan first negotiated with the pd ending with the pd fake negotiated with mingyu. they are all frustrated and i understand
난 오히려 진실거짓을 제대로 활용하지 못한거에 대한 아쉬움은 있음 그러기엔 시간이 짧기도 했고 이런걸 잘 활용해서 탄탄하게 기획해달라는 말 정도는 대체적으로 공감하고 피디님한테도 생산적인 피드백이 될거 같은데ㅋㅋㅋ
맞아요 이런 피드백보고 더 좋은 컨텐츠 나오는거죠..
맞아여 진실거짓 가지고 애들 뭐했어요? 암것도 안보여쥼
그러게요 저건 언제 사용할까.. 계속 생각했었어요
그래도 디노 착해서 나중에 알면 진짜 화날거같다고 리액션 못하겠어,,,이러는게 아기천사야 ㅠㅠ 배신 당했는데 화도 안내는 민규팀도 천사,,,🖤
디노가 그 말 하는거 몇분인가요🥺
42:16
원우 흑화라 했지만 그냥 혼자 다짐한 에피로 마무리,,, 너무 귀엽다 전원우 ㅠㅠ
The fact that they still don't see Jeonghan's strategies coming amazes me, it just goes to show how freaking clever he is.
Jeonghan pulled tricks everytime he can and to think svt already living together for years but still fall into his trick is actually scary, he's so gifted
I DEFINITELY AGREE.
AGREE22
@@tarutariya5313 it is because all of the seventeen is NF type while jeonghan is the only one with SF so that means he is more aware of his surroundings and more practical and strategic than the others. He can trick all of them easily because all of the seventeen is pure intuition and he is the only one that can sense lol
Yesss
vernon is so good at hiding we didn’t see him for a WHOLE turn 😭😭 and jeonghan’s mind is crazyy he always wins
FOR REAL
It doesn't matter if his team is currently losing, if they're weaker physically or mentally, if they're playing fair or cheating, Yoon Jeonghan will always win.
아니 솔직히 그냥 앉아서 머리 싸움만 하는 컨텐츠였으면 모르겠는데 애들 온 건물 다 뛰게 만들어 놓고 김 빠지게 하는 건 진짜 제작진 측에서 너무 사악했음 ㅠㅠ 민규 팀 애들은 그냥 온 건물 뛰어다니고 게임 진 것 밖에 안되는거임....ㅠ
이 후에 찍은 콘텐츠가 보물섬이었다는게...원우 진짜 사람 못 믿어도 할 말 없다
진짜...두번다 배신당하고 ...흑화 안하는게 이상할 정도네요...
헐...한두번은 재미로 넘어간다지만..매번 저러면 재밌다고 생각하는건기?저러고 매번 당하고도 열심히 하는 멤버들 정말 안쓰럽다..ㅜㅜ
at the end of the day, jeonghan is literally one of the pillars in going seventeen. no one can deny how fun he makes these episodes....so many plot twists and legendary scenes thanks to him... he's amazing
for me it’s jeonghan and jun holding up gose, the effortlessly funny things that come out of juns mouth never fail to make me laugh, and ofc yoon jeonghan
and Hoshi shining during Don't lie episodes
Yess he makes everything funny and I always look forward to how he is gonna do something that we didn't even imagine he is the main brain of GoSe
No fun
@@내일의집-b4kthen just don't watch it if you don't find it fun
The way Jeonghan strategizes is just - I’m speechless. This is why I love this man. HAHAHA
항상 느끼지만 고잉에서 민규 원우 조합이 진짜 쩌는 것 같음.. 정직하면서도 영리하게 판을 짜는게👍
wow dk is so considerate with myungho taking pictures of the sunset like they're not shooting plus the way they hyped jun when he caught six of them is so wholesome. svt really treats their china line well
게다가 민규네가 먼저 제작진에 딜 걸고 역관광 당한 것도 아니고 걍 가마니 잘 하고 있었는데 딜 걸려와서 굳이 안해도 되는데 방송 재밌게 만들라구 하다가 뒤통수마즘ㅠㅜ
맞아요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ먼저 딜걸고 역관광이면 재밌네ㅋㅋㅋ하는데 이기고 있는데 딜 걸어서 뒤통수 맞으니까 뭐지.....? 반응이 나오는 것같아요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
아 진짜 인정요 ㅠ 과몰입하면 안 되지만 제가 다 서운하네요
울 댕댕이 밍구.. 뒤통수를 맞아버린 거시여..
i feel like mingyu is a great representation of ‘work hard’ while jeonghan’s definitely the ‘work smart’ typa person 😭😭😭
Lmao why is this so accurate? In a way, both of them are impressive, working hard is an important quality to have and working smart is a really useful one that doesn't always come to everyone
@@lauraaa3049 right 😭 and the fact that they’re both really good at what they do makes it even more fun to watch 😭😭😭
Nah Mingyu actually both Work smart and work hard, he's thinking smartly even the members said Mingyu is the brain of svt he's the smartest and won the brain games many times, Jeonghan is more street smart and know how to trick etc
@@dxnce7593 svt members said Jeonghan is the smartest though. It's just that Mingyu is also one of the smartest as well Mingyu had the dexterity while Jeonghan is tricky and unpredictable.
@@dxnce7593 Jeonghan is the most intelligent member tho; twas mentioned couple of times
이렇게 무인도보다 열받는 고잉은 처음이다...ㅋㅋㅋ우리 막냉이랑 민규팀 착한거 봐....진짜 더 호감이다
*THE WORLD WAS JUST GLAD, THAT JEONGHAN BECOME AN IDOL, AND NOT BECOME AN ATTY UNDER INTELLIGENCE OF A CERTAIN GROUP, THAT MUST BE HARD IF YOU PASS THE PATH WITH HIM*
lesson learned: Do NOT be on jeonghan's opposing team. You.will.always.lose.
YESSS
it's over once that happened sweetie hahahaha
things you learn in this gose episode:
- s.coups' switches between being a prey and a predator is like second nature
- jonghan is really scary good in scheming
- joshua just wanted to win against the seunghan tandem
- jun used his power of "redirection" to be one with nature
- hoshi cannot be average; he's either too good at hiding that no one can find him or too bad that he gets caught in just a few seconds
- wonwoo's speed is not to be underestimated; also, he is easy to corrupt
- wooji just want to have fun but not get tired (let the guy rest!)
- dokyeom is too honest for his own good
- mingyu is too good-natured to be a schemer but, still, a schemer nonetheless
- the8 will always find a way to reach a higher ground
- seungkwan really loves vernon and dino
- vernon is so chill no one notices he was still hiding until the last minute
- dino really is their baby until to this day; its subtle but you can see it that he loves how they take care of him and give him attention
"The8 will always find a way to reach a higher ground." T^T Philosophically and literally
Hoshi and The8 one lmaooo
I love this comment so much
*woozi lmfao
Also Mingyu is a titan in a suit (1:48)
근데 뭔가 게임으로만 넘기기엔 돈도 걸려있고 승패가 있는건데 아무리 준팀이 pd매수 먼저 했다지만 제작진이 민규팀한테 먼저 분량 목적으로 스파이 제안하고 속이면 민규팀 애들은 열심히 해봤자 반칙이나 꼼수가 짱이다는 인식이 생기니까…ㅠ 보물섬때도 그렇고… 진짜 멤버들끼리만 머리 써서 개입없이 반전 보는게 더 재밌을거 같아요 원우 속상해하는거 맴아파
ㅇㅈ.. 그리고 내가 본게 맞으면 민규팀은 pd님이 먼저 제안하걸로 봤는데...흠...
@@민초세상-h4j 준팀이 2라때 먼저 60퍼로 매수했어여 제작진이 민규팀에 스파이한거에여 마지막에 말을 걍 정한이가 그렇게해서 순서가 그래보이는데 2라운드시작때 정한이가 먼저 제안한거에여 ㅋ
워누야 삐뚤어지자~~!
I have to appreciate Mingyu here. He did a great job.
no because wonwoo is jeonghan’s greatest enemy when it comes to mind games. it’s just so satisfying everytime they’re against each other and i think it would be really difficult and dirty for the members when they team up together. 🤣
MinWon in same team is probably the best and most likely combination to win against JeongCheol (actually, they would win if "fairplay" existed in Jeonghan's dictionary)
@@anime-ye1qs exactly!! but since jeonghan is almost always cheating, so we probably won't see minwon winning a lot in the future😂 but then again jeonghan is the one who makes games more fun even if it's not fair lol
@@minttea4503 ikr
Jeonghan cheating basically is a daily occurence in GoSe now - he can literally cheat even in contents where one would wonder if it's even possible to cheat
wonwoo really got that sexc brain and u can see it from him in literally every gose eps out there especially these mind games 😭 hes so attractive like damn. and tru @anime when wonwoo n mingyu work together it just gets even more powerful like the way they play these games is just so satisfying to watch 😭 imagine them + jeonghan it’s over 😭
@@mmckth ikr 😭 My two favorite Wonwoo Mingyu 😭🔥
I love how Jeonghan and his team mates always wins, if he don't win he still wins somehow... *If you know, you know*
No matter what happened even though he loses, he still wins...this guy is something else
NAUR NOT THE *LUCK* CARD
well he’s jeonghan lmao
its easier to win if you don't have values
@@missayoshaa7798 touché
수트입고 달리는 기럭지 갑인 13명의 남정네들을 보는 기분이란..
젼나좋쿤^^
멤버들이 머리 넘길 때 내 손가락도 자동으로 몇 초 앞으로 넘기기.......
진심 애들 수트입고 머리도 쓰면서 추격전에 흐트러진 머리까지 그저 갓벽
@@nnaacc217 키야...
+ 무전기ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
고잉셉 다시 정주행중인데 이때쯤이 딱 과도기같음 고속성장으로 이것저것 시도해보면서 이렇게 욕먹는 편도 생기고 참신하고 새로운 편도 생겼던거 같음 22년도쯔음부터 안정기
As I always say jeonghan is unpredictable, and that's what makes gose so brain twisting, funny and thriller. He deserves an award for his smartness. I'm still on awe about how he played them no wonder everyone wants jeonghan in their team lmao... Mingyu had smart plan in small scale but jeonghan played it on high scale.
Jeonghan is a risk taker! and I love him for that. A trend setter>>>>
the main reason I love his brain. He takes 100 percent of risk
Cheat is not funny at all
@@내일의집-b4k he only cheats for making things fun ... And it makes gose more interesting and fun
@@내일의집-b4kbeing anti is not fun either
권호시 맨날 잘만 숨어있다가 나오면 아무것도 못하고 잡혀 ㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㅋㄱㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄱ큐ㅠㅠㅠ ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
Jeonghan trying to calm everyone and misdirect everyone from his bribing schemes by saying, 'let's all forget about this and sit down and have nice delicious meat with the money we earned' is so cunning lol I love him.
He is just saying it is a game let’s move on. Why is everyone forgetting that Mingyu bribed the PD too. Just Jeonghan gave a bigger incentive for PD to choose them. Mingyu not succeeding in his scheme does not erase he scheme too.
@@kellypope9682 i’m not trying to defend either of them cuz they all are precious to me but the difference between mingyu and jeonghan was that pdnim approached mingyu’s team by asking them to make the content fun and to increase their sum and if they do follow pdnim’s suggestion, he’ll act as a spy for them. here, we can’t forget that mingyu didn’t think of cheating in the first place, it was pd’s idea whereas jeonghan was the one who proposed the whole spy and incentive thingy in the other team’s case.
@@maitreyeebhargude195 still, Mingyu team accepted the offer so both teams cheated. He could have declined the offer because they were winning anyway but he didn't. It's not like the PD forced them to accept. The game could have just ended with them winning and could have played extra games to lengthen the episode.
If Mingyu team was really worried about the content in the first place, then they shouldn't have played safe. Mingyu team's strategy was good, but anyone who would have gone 2nd would also think of that strategy tbh.
@kellypope9682 isn't it!!! Bro it's 2024, I still enjoy Jeonghan's lethal intelligence in this episode with the same energy that I had when I watched this for the first time.
I mean disliking someone just because of his "unmatched and literally unreachable intelligence" is wild. I can't comprehend it!!
@@maitreyeebhargude195
Kim Mingyu consented to the PD's plan to gain insight into the opposing team's stocks, effectively agreeing to cheat without realizing it was a trap set by the other team. His willingness to cheat alongside PD is undeniable, as he had the option to decline but chose not to. This intention of him to cheat can't be disputed and nobody can say that he didn't "intend" and all. On the other hand, Jeonghan exhibits a different kind of genius - one that's ruthless and strategic, always prioritizing victory over emotions. In contrast, Mingyu's approach is more cautious and diligent, yet emotionally immature at times. Both display unique forms of intelligence, with Mingyu's being more risk-averse and Jeonghan's being boldly cunning as well as brilliant. Jeonghan masterfully turns the game into a 'SHOW', expertly playing and outdoing all others. ❣️🔥
when minghao said at the last part "the world is really like that" he's spitting facts tho
Jeonghan is scarily has slytherin traits the best, he's so cunning, ambitious, resourceful, great determination , and clever
Yeahhh..that's what I think in all mind game episodes too
That's my man
Yeah and i love it haha i love that man 😂❣️
thus the 1million won ep.even the staffs notice how he can control anyone if he wants to .i hope they will have another season of this .
THAT MY BIAS❤
Istg Dino have the purest heart 42:21 .. the way he feel bad & didn't know how to react with the situation make me love him even more.. Our precious maknae ever.. 🤍🤍
Exactly.. only the maknae felt bad about betraying the other team meanwhile the hyungs were convincing it's just a game..
Think about it, even if its just a game, if you are in mingyu's team, how much u would have felt utterly betrayed.. I don't deny that Jeonghan is a good startegist but.. this episode wasn't that good..
자꾸 민규팀이 먼저 매수했다 하는 사람들 있는데 그건 편집을 그렇게 한거고 시간상으로는 준팀이 2라 때 먼저 60퍼 매수 딜 했고 민규팀은 그 다음에 제작진이 먼저 20퍼 딜 걸었음
@하나 김 정한이가 2라운드때 딜치고 그 다음 3라운드때 피디님이 민규팀에 말하신거예요 원댓이 맞음
@하나 김 뒤에 대화땜에 헷갈리시는거같은데 다시 보시면 2라때 준팀이 먼저 딜건게 맞아요 선공인 민규팀이 필승이라 준팀쪽에서 딜건거..
@하나 김 얜 걍 윤정한 싫어하는듯
@하나 김 다시보세요 2라때 준팀에서 먼저 피디한테 딜걸음 그리고 매수당한 제작진이 민규네 속이는거에여 마지막에 말을 그렇게해서 그렇게 생각한거같음 정한이네가 먼저 매수했음
And for those who still can't move on from this episode... I hope you get the part that this is a show, they are Seventeen. They won't break just because of this. They have a stronger bond than we think. Okay? Spread love.
머리 쓰는 민규 원우가 보완해주는게 너무 좋다 처음에도 원우가 룰 제대로 알고 있어서 민규가 작전을 제대로 짤 수 있었음 그리고 민규가 -+-+,+-+-말하니까 원우가 바로 ++--도 하자는 부분에서 둘이 정말 머리 잘 쓰는거 알 수 있었음
이거 ㄹㅇ…
Certainly if Jeonghan’s not an idol, he will probably be recruited as part of the government intel group. I mean that brain is so extraordinary
frrrrr
I mean who knows if he is part of the government intel and being an idol is his part time job.... 🤔🧐😂
Like with his brains anything is possible 😂
@@abhilipsasahoo6998 His turning into that ‘wattpad leading male character’ a good looking guy who debut as an idol but actually is an elite secret agent of the government who is under a top secret mission and in the process of doing the mission he was discovered one by one by the members and then he recruited the the SVT members eventually 💕💕
@@meraki4574 I neeed this drama, right now!
Jeonghan was going to be a politician but he decided to become an idol instead. He'd be a great politician lmao
Not gonna lie, I high-key wish the Mingyu team had won. But I will also never deny that Jeonghan deserves every bit of success and good luck that he has on all his plans xD He is insane. I bet the world is glad (or sad, depending on who you ask) he chose to sing and perform instead of like, building empires or cracking master plans and stuff.
And can we appreciate Minghao being truthful, as always. "The world truly is like that." Such a true and bittersweet note to end on. Man, I love Seventeen and the GoSe team.
Also, I've been reading that there were a lot of hate comments (even though I haven't come across any, thank GOD). But y'all people writing them don't really watch Going Seventeen, do you? Cuz if you did you would know that when they want to play it fair, they play it FAIR (please refer to eps 3 and 4 of GoSe 2021), and when they want their show to be a chaotic cheating mess, they do. Because they can, and it's their show. Y'all need to chill.
@@dsofic ive never come across hates comments yet coz carats knows how all these 13 boys are sly in their own way.maybe it's the new fans.
@@tequerer8463 yeah I agree with you or maybe some keyboard warriors who only wants to mess around with the carats 😂 you can't bring the carats down who love seventeen so much ❤️❤️❤️
I'm soo behind on watching GoSe but I heard (read) on Twitter that there are people who's mad on Jeonghan and the staffs. And I've been guessing which GoSe episode it is then realized its this episode. I've been a Carat since YMMD and watched GoSe and honestly instead of getting mad I'm amazed. I actually want to reach Jeonghan's intellegence when it comes to games.
@@omniscientview lmaoo yesss and those same people on Twitter failed to realized that the other guy (I dont know all the members names, bc im new) was "cheating" also but only wanted to hate on jeonghan for "cheating"
민규네가 먼저 딜하자고 한 것도 아닌데 통수를 치네
In this episode, dino is so adorable, he is the only one that has conscience about the strategy you can see it on the ending credit and he is the one who warn seungkwan to be careful when climbing the ladder, he is so kind eventhough dino kind of quiet but still happy in this episode.
Dino best maknae!!
YESYES
the fact that Jeonghan thought of watching other teams positions from the window and Mingyu warning "don't go out yet they can see us" really shows mingyu and jeonghan think almost same except Mingyu is a bit more innocent than Jeonghan is😂
THIS
mingyu is intelligent and wise. jeonghan is sly and cunning. that's the difference
@@camilleniel6484shut up. Jeonghan's brain > Mingyu's brain
Not at all they think the same bruh...😂 It's just how much they know each other's level of intelligence in every game.... Jeonghan is a Ruthless genius whereas Mingyu is a diligent genius 😅 both are brilliant but they hold a a major emotional difference in it.
The way hannie was watching them from rooftop that was so hot 🔥
고잉셉 진짜 재밌게 봐왔지만 이번엔딩 내가 민규팀 멤버도 아닌데 왕서운함ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 현실에서도 불공정하게 살아가고 있음을 느끼고 있는데 예능에서까지 아 인생은 이렇구나..를 느껴야 하는게 너무 슬픔 ㅠㅠㅋㅋㅋㅋ
맞아요 딱 이느낌이에요 예능에서까지..
Started watching gose svt and i must say i am in love with JEONGHAN. He makes everything so interesting. Its kinda sad that some dumheads are hating him for this. They need to understand that so many people watches gose svt because of this guy ( all members are extremely lovely people too). But hating someone just because of a game is not cool at all. JEONGHAN FIGHTING❤
people are really hating on him for this? wth it’s just a game
True true, if he guest in RM and pairing with kwangsoo/ jaesuk/ haha, it will be more interesting and funny. But sad 😔 cause he's not into variety shows much if he's not with his members, haha
He makes GoSe so much more interesting
다른 건 몰라도 원우한테 무슨 일이여ㅠㅠ 보물섬 때도 그렇고ㅠㅠ 진짜 맨날 당하고도 헤헤 하고 넘기는 원우가 귀엽기는 하지만 너무 안타깝다ㅠㅠ
When they were trying to get money, we got the PD.
- Yoon, Jeonghan 2021 🙌
While rewatching this again I realized Minghao and Dino really don't like tricking their members 😂
Those two are really good kids haha. When Dino said "I dont know how to feel" after they won big time, I can see his innocence. He felt bad but again, its just a game.. Eventho this eps made me absorbed sooo into it lol. As they said "once you're being emotional, you lost", and i think i lost this time hahaha
@@her9271 this happened to me once in an argument, it wasn't that big actually. 70% of that fight is me being overly frustrated and 20% is the other saying how dramatic I am, pretty sure the argument is only 10% lol. it bothers me for so long how the argument ended until I realized that I was probably the only one who's upset of it since I couldn't control my emotion. Even though she's the one who's at wrong, I feel really bad for saying so many mean things to her especially since she's older. If I could somehow meet her in the future, I will totally apologize because I was being unnecessarily rude
If anyone actually reading this then thank you so much. I've been troubled by this for a while now and it's nice to finally vent it out
Minghao has always been judging Jeonghan's cheating ideas lol
Minghao is so sincere.
@@her9271 Same here honestly :( I just want to see the team without Jeonghan n Coups win for once without any tricks involved from either parties ahhh I rlly lost this time I became wayyyyy too emotional lol
There are so many people criticising jeonghan here..but as a baby carat who's trynna know more abt them..I just fell in love man! What a brain!
If Yoon Jeonghan is in the Squid Game, I just swear that he'll win. This man.
🤣🤣true though, can happen 😂
i couldn't agree for more 😂
True😭😭
if he was in squid game, he would be the organisator
@@sunwoocore goosebumps
역시 민규 원우가 진짜 똑똑해... 둘이 반칙없이 진짜 머리써서 이기는걸로 진짜 잘해
Dino being the only one feeling a bit guilty and the hyungs just teaching him that this is what World is, was the funniest!
Though it doesn't show that Dino is the maknae very often..here it was so evident lol
Dino seems to always be concientious tho. You hardly see him cheat in games.
@@idiosyncraticsociety I agree.
@@idiosyncraticsociety very true
Yeahh that's why i love him🥰
진짜 이 편은 거의 뭐 보물섬… 애들 정장 입은게 좋아서 다시 봤는데 다시 봐도 어이없네요… PD면 제발 PD역할만 해주시면 감사하겠습니다 이게 뭐하는거에요 정말ㅜㅠ 마지막 원우랑 민규랑 승관이 얼굴만 봐도 속상하네여
I was like, "wow Jeonghan has been playing pretty fair this whole time," I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
Literally SAME HERE!!!!!!
Knew something was wrong when Jeonghan was doing nothing and losing (well, he was calm so there was something wrong)
“when they were trying to get money, we got the PD”
- YOON JEONGHAN, BIG BRAIN. I KISS YOUR SMARTEST BRAIN
That one line by Jeonghan is like literally going down in history books mannn!!!!
윤정한의 저 말이 똑똑한걸로 들리다니!! 피디를 매수하는게 똑똑한거 구나. 한국인의 정서로는 굉장히 안 좋은 행동.
근데 그래도 애들이 진짜 착한게.. 게임일 뿐!하면서 좀 열심히 한게 서운했을텐데 이쁘게 웃음ㅜㅜ… 내가 민규 팀이였으면 배신감 쩔어서 길길이 화날듯ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 예능 그림을 위해서라고 모든걸 포장하면… 열심히 하는 사람은 그냥 땀만 흘린게 되지만..ㅜ 사실 첫라운드때 금액 정할 때 기준을 정확하게 정했어야하는게 맞음..룰이 허술했음..
그래서 이 편 화나서 못보게써여,,,ㅋ큐ㅠㅠㅠ
뭐여...허무해요.. 제작진이 승패를 결정하게 되버린 꼴이라 이게 뭔가 싶은데 항상 보면 멤버들은 승부욕도 있고 항상 열심히 하는데 결과가 어떻든 항상 웃고 인정하고 서로 리스펙하고 하 이래서 입덕하지요ㅠㅠ
Right. Who were working hard they know how it feels😭😭
이건 감정이 안 상할 수가 없는데... 다들 대단하다 진짜 웬만한 사람이면 정색하고 화냈을 거 같은데 그래도 프로들이라서 저 정도로 넘어가네.
애초에 제작진이 개입하는 거 자체도 별로고, 그것도 준 팀 제안 받아서 손잡아 놓고 민규팀 작정하고 속이려고 먼저 제안하는 것도 너무 비열함. 재밌고 즐겁자고 보는 건데 진짜 이게 뭐야. 보물섬만큼이나 결말이 짜증난다.
그래, 현실에 주가 조작하고 거짓 정보 퍼뜨리는 세력들이 있지. 근데 그건 불법이라서 법에 따라 처벌을 받지. 근데 이런 걸 그냥 이렇게 웃고 넘어가고 끝이라고? 그래서 뭘 말하고 싶은 거야? 시스템이 배신하면 아무리 룰에 따라 정정당당히 플레이해도 결국 농락당하고 패망하게 된다고? 아니면 사기에 넘어간 사람이 잘못인 거라고? 진짜 이래도 돼? 이게 맞아?
이거랑 비슷한 반전 많이 봤지. 지니어스 같은 데서. 근데 거기서 반전이 짜릿하고 재밌는 건 참가자들 사이에서의 딜과 연합이기 때문이지, 거기에 제작진이 끼는 건 말이 안되는 거잖아.
웃고 즐기라고 만든 아이돌 자컨 보고 이러고 있는 내가 더 웃기는 꼴이란 건 알겠는데 그래도 불쾌한 건 어쩔 수 없다.
당신 말이 100% 맞다 내 동생
예능은 예능으로 보세요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 넷플같은 지능싸움을 보고싶으면 넷플 다큐를 가서 보시고ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 진짜 과몰입해서 분탕치는 종자들 겁나많네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 걍 서로 재밌고 케미 보여주는 팬서비스 예능에서 뭔 불법이니 넘어가니ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
이런걸로 감정 상하면 진작에 불화설 나고 해체했죠ㅋㅋ 예능이라 재밌게 하려고 그러눈건데…
예능은 예능으로 보세요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 넷플같은 지능싸움을 보고싶으면 넷플 다큐를 가서 보시고ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 진짜 과몰입해서 분탕치는 종자들 겁나많네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 걍 서로 재밌고 케미 보여주는 팬서비스 예능에서 뭔 불법이니 형평성이니ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 노력으로 승부받고 정당하게 평가받는 걸 보고싶으면 올림픽이나 가서 보시든가ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 무도에서 노홍철이 사기쳐서 정준하 부하로 삼는다고 시청자 게시판에 쌍욕박는 개청자들이랑 니네들이랑 다를 게 뭐에요?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 입털지 말고 얌전히 처보세요. 찐캐럿들은 억울해하는 모습 귀엽다고 짤 소장하고 멤버들의 새로운 모습도 귀엽다면서 훈훈하게 재밌게 웃고 넘어가는데 님들은...ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 고나리질도 적당히 하세요. 16년 무도 시청자 게시판이랑 분위기 ㄹㅇ 똑같네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 분위기 이상하게 조성해가면서 분탕질 치지 마세요들^_^
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 개인팬들 물 작작 흐리세요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 버라이어티 게임에서 뭔 형평성이니 공정함이니 하나하나 따지고 앉아있음ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그렇게 따지면 다짜고짜 피디가 주가조작하자고 제안한 상황에, "주가 조작"이라는 단어가 게임 전체에서 적용된다는 사실을 캐치못하고 자기네들한테만 주가 조작을 제안했다고 생각한 게 더 멍청한거임ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 상대팀에게는 주가 조작을 제안 안했을 거라 생각하는 것 자체가ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 니네들이 말하는 넷플 서바이벌 지능게임 같은 거랑 비교해보면, 궤도같이 머리 탑찍는 지능형 애들은 피디가 주가조작이라는 개념을 오픈한 순간에 상대팀에게도 같은 딜이 들어왔겠구나..!라는 사실을 이미 캐치했었다고ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 걍 멤버들끼리 서로서로 장난치고 웃기려고 하는 친목형 예능에서 과몰입해서 진지빨지 마시고 예능은 예능으로 보세요.
Everyone telling how smart Jeonghan, meanwhile Moon Arthur Junhui pick Jeonghan as a teammate, actually he's the real Boss 😂😂😂
Junhui's a secret genius wbk aksjsj
Junhui mvp always
Jeonghan is a genius, his sly thinking is what got me into seventeen in the first place. It's so unpredictable and fun every time and always makes me excited. Please know that it's all for entertainment y'all don't take it so seriously, if we didn't have characters like him, the show wouldn't be as fun
yes u all must know how interesting yoon jeonghan is. i also became carat after see yoon jeonghan used his brain (a.k.a cheat LOL) in going seventeen
Tbh he's the reason I'm here today as a carat
the never ending saga between jeonghan and mingyu proving how terrifying their minds can work together with seventeen’s cooperation and the staff is honestly the highlight of GoSe. In every way, no show can compare to how great this is.
Totally agree! Yeah Jeonghan and Scoups is the dream duo but what if it's a combi of Jeonghan and Mingyu?
@@princessmaelara9769 bro exactly! jeonghan and mingyu are like the perfect definition of street smarts vs book smarts. the combination would be unstoppable.
되게 재밌어 보이는데 추천 목록에 없던 이유를 ..늦덕은 이제야 알았네요.....................고구마 먹은것 같어ㅠㅠㅠ
In the last ep when Dino said he was a “spare” member, even though I understood that it was a joke it made me feel quite sad (because I definitely don’t think so), but he was kindhearted and conscientious to care for Seungkwan, and also feel guilt for the cheating plan… I just want to give him a big warm hug to tell him that he’s the one and only sweetheart;)
Right🥺🤍🤍🤍
NO ONE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW SMART MINGYU IS? HE'S REALLY SMART
True 👍👍
Exactly, His smart brain together with WONWOO 🧠🔥
THIS. HE NEVER GETS TALK ABOUT FOR HIS SMARTS AND EMOTIONS.
he is the smartest.
Everyone talks about how smart mingyu is
At this rate JEONGHAN can be secret agent. He can pretend to be anyone, think fast, convince people so smoothly, be little manipulative. DAMM HE WOULD BE A TOTAL BOSS
I feel like Mingyu is mastermind of Svt the. Way he plans his every move without cheating is amazing 🤩 bruh ❤❤❤😊
He totally is. He is very smart and I love that he can strategize so well without necessarily cheating. this is why I mostly root for his team
@@renatah5680 oh my god same I most of the time root for his team like he strategically plans his own game I understand jeonghan is smart but he wins by cheating I am not hating but Mingyu is the real mastermind 😊
@@WinterXvibes-gaming yes, I understand Jeonghan makes it for the show and to make it fun, but all this makes me appreciate Mingyu's brain and strategizing even more
@@renatah5680 I know
@@renatah5680 I know this is why for me Mingyu is mastermind
There are two types of genius:
Sly genius-Jeonghan
Diligent genius- Mingyu
And there's Wonwoo, who's naturally gifted but going to dark path, the future sly genius.
Ya waiting to see wonwoo being evil... Till now he has been too honest
@@meow_meow6019 i hope not 😅
Wonwoo feels like a whole character arc. I can't for the episode where he betrays everyone🤧
@@claudiabortey4789 bad clue 2? 🤭
Maybe Wonwoo will be the main character in the next Don't Lie
MyungHoon being 100% rational... The world is 100% like this game. That's life.
민규팀 마직막 표정 보니까 정말 세상사람 밑으면 안되겠다는 생각이 든다
39:13 greatest plotwist ever. They actually forgot about Jeonghan’s skills. No one can outsmart that guy 🤣