Staying In a Ultra Luxury British Estate - Cliveden
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Today i'm checking into one of the most prestigious and historic estates in all of England. It's called Cliveden house and for more than 172 years, it has stood as a staple of British wealth and power, occupied by some of the wealthiest families in history. Today, it serves as an ultra luxury, 5 star hotel and i'm here to find out if this $1,000 a night room is actually worth the money!
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Honestly, if I was a millionaire, I would probably stay in properties like this all the time. But as a working class brit, I could spend a week abroad for the same as one night in this hotel.
I fully agree with you. However, compared with other similar places I think this is a bit of a rip-off. Two of the three restaurants looked quite cheap and yet they charge a lot for food that is not spectacular. Overpriced and overrated.
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As a fancy taste (modest income) thousandaire myself, I have to agree
You’re only working class in your mind.
Your reviews and descriptions of the properties that you visit are so detailed but not overloaded with superfluous information. Keep up the great work this is definitely my favorite travel channel on RUclips!
Thank you very much!
I guess it looks quite nice. But for that kind of money, I would expect a few more Edna Mode posters.
It's great to see you in the UK! Also, if anyone reading this is interested in historic buildings, English Heritage has multiple properties that are a lot cheaper than this one; it's definitely worth looking at.
Going next summer and intend on staying at least once in a historical hotel/manor but not looking at spending 1k + per night (canadian).
Do you have any suggestions? I will be around London, York and Bath.
Thanks
@@ugosmith7529i dont know much about sleeping in properties like these BUT Ive been living in the uk for a few months and I have found great value in doing daytrips to different historical towns and just researching "name of the town + castle". Most of them have at least one castle that, as he said, you can pay up to 20 pounds to visit, as well as churches. Visiting the castles for just a few hours feels just as magical as it would be staying in them in my opinion, and way cheaper! But if you have the money to stay in them thats amazing as well. Bath specially, i dont remember visiting any castles there but the town itself feels like one continuous castle.
Hilarious seeing Americans stumble over "Buckinghamshire" - gets em every time!
Great review, although I have to say as a UK native I found this funny to watch. I can see the appeal maybe for those from across the pond but the "history" of the place really isn't that novel when you realise there are tonnes of old properties you can stay at like this - which I'm glad you point out although Im sure you can find more grand locations for less in other parts of the UK. Personally it looks like they've used the history of the place as an excuse not to renovate much.
Also not to be pedantic but worth noting the National Trust is not a government organisation but a separate charity with a long history.
And like just in general you can find a lot a lot all over Europe that will generally be cheaper and older. It's pretty easy to find old inns for example and if you hop across to france there are a ton of small hotels in medieval buildings.
I've stayed in budget chain hotels that are in older buildings than this. 180 years old really isn't that much for Europe....
@@bobjim4566 I know right. Hes remarking at the novelty of staying in a 180 year old building, while my house is 300+ years old and isn't even close to being the oldest in the village or the oldest I've stayed in
Man you are too nice to that room. Looks like a Best Western
I agree. They could at least put the tv on the wall instead of the ugly stand. I get its a historical property so people don't want a modern style. But the room looks old fashioned in an 80s kind of way, not a beautiful antique way.
I think a great point you made was there quite a few other properties that come very close to this and quite a lot are cheaper and if you don't mind being further away from London their are hundreds of others and almost all cheaper. With spectacular ones in the Lake District and ones like Burgh Island Hotel which also has a cool special vehicle that can transport you to the hotel.
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Also just in general in Europe this isn't unique, and while it certainly has a unique history so does the hundreds of other locations around Europe. I mean there are some places you can stay in that used to be royal palaces and others that are much much older, and they might even be cheaper. 178 years isn't actually very old in Europe, you can find much older buildings everywhere and many are still actively used.
@@hedgehog3180 yeah exactly it's a beautiful house, but there will be one just as beautiful just as old or older a 30 minute drive away.
Ha, I spent most of this video thinking ‘but it’s a National Trust location, so you can visit the grounds for about £15!’ and then you got to that bit 😂 Great video as always, Jake. It’s a stunning location but it does feel like you are paying a heck of a lot for the hotel side of thing. I can imagine it being an amazing location for a honeymoon or something if you can really splash out for it though.
Minor point: the National Trust is a charity, not part of the government. Though its president is the King, and it has >5 million members (ie. about 1 in 10 people in England), so it does feel pretty much like a state institution at times.
That's very interesting information about the Trusthank you so much for that. How do they get so many members? They contribute with money? How much does it cost if it managed to get so many members?
I could see Paying those Prices if your Meals and the Spa and Boats were Included!
I think it's a rite of passage for many in the UK when you hit 50 to get a national trust membership. These places are usually full of middle aged and retired couples wandering the grounds and filling up the tea room.
@@Croz89 Definitely, though pretty much every family with kids I know has a membership too - a lot of the sites are pretty good for a vaguely educational day out with plenty of grounds to run around in once they get bored.
@@Zveebo Depends on if it's a weekday or weekend/school holiday.
Beautiful property but like your ratings show you're not necessarily getting all of what you should be for what you're paying
My partner and I stayed there last year to attend his mate's wedding and we drove from Glasgow all the way down south. It's a beautiful property and also had the most expensive GBP 30 fish and chips and it was nothing exceptional. But if you get a chance to visit India, do try the Taj Mahal Palace and only the old wing. The service is excellent and full of histories. Another one which I highly recommend is Wildflower Hall, An Oberoi Resort, Shimla. Service is exceptional and also the most beautiful indoor pool with chandeliers and outdoor jacuzzi overlooking the valleys.
The fact that people used to just live in these as their full time residence is insane to me. The amount of wealth.
People still live in giant mansions today
the trick is to stay at a cheap hotel and visit a National Trust property for free (grounds usually free, often have to pay to tour the house but it's never $1,000 a night)
the overwhelming majority of NT properties charge you to visit the grounds. Membership is a good deal if you will visit many places.
I always look forward to these videos. Really appreciate you putting so much thought into them.
I appreciate that!
What a spectacular place and kudos to Britain for having a national trust to preserve historical places and make them financially lucrative for many generations to come.
For me a 5 star hotel without the service to match is not a 5 star experience.I can forgive most of your other complaints but for about $1000 usd a night they better have the service to match. My rule of thumb for hotels and restaurants: 1) I need to enjoy (for the price) my stay or food, 2) Service needs to match where they are positioning themselves, it's not the same expectation a Holiday Inn from a Four Seasons, 3) Price should be a little less from what I was expecting. If all 3 are met I will recommend it and when possible be a return customer. Awesome review!!! keep them coming.
A simple room with two queens beds in a normal hotel here in British Columbia costs $1000 a night in peak season. And people gladly pay it, they don't even do nightly turn downs anymore lol
I would not accept unreliable hot water and worn carpet in my room for this price point and location. Just because a building is old and furniture simetimes antique, does not mean it cannot be well maintained or refurbished to at least good modern standards 🤔 The room, honestly with the look and less than impressive view, is not worth the price. Especially since you can enjoy the location without sleeping over 🤷♀️ So the high price really is just for the room you are sleeping in and the breakfast. Also, no 5 star service at a hotel that positions themselves as 5 star is quite ridiculous imo
As soon as he panned over the bar I thought "ooh, Lagavulin 16" ...and then he says it's his personal favorite. Good man, that Jake.
I will always be here to watch these! Thank you for sticking with it
A lovely detailed video! Let have more unusual destinations such as these please
I swear I so look forward to this series, I'm so suprisingly into it just ugh I actively got excited seeing a new entry was released
I love that you guys visited England ♥️ I hope you have more plans to come here in the future.
Its damp , Its dark , They constantly bug you , Your not allowed to walk on the grass , The food was cold , The wine was off due to being stored incorrectly, Staff are underpaid and it shows as they only do what they have to do nothing more. And its a 3 star at most. The furniture is old but not Antique. Hot water has a long way to travel so got cold quickly.. Its definitely not worth the price….
The fact that it is close to Heathrow is the reason why I like it.
Usually I don’t watch travel/hotel vlogs unless it’s from my own country (coz at least I can afford it)
But knowing what your other channel is based on, it’s really fun to see you actually go to the hotel locations this things
Oh surprised to see you in UK! I grew up nearby and always remember seeing "the big house on the distant hill" but didn't visit it until much later. The stonework looks much better maintained now than when I last saw it. Enjoy your British travels!
The reason it’s priced so high is what normal hotels call “maintenance” but in the cases of National Trust and similar patrimonie worldwide is “ongoing conservation”.
While folk are more likely to factor in the social value of expensive stays in hard to get “adventure” travel in the underdeveloped world, it’s less obvious when staying 30 miles from the centre of one of the worlds most developed and capitalist cities.
That heritage conservation premium has to be precariously balanced across all revenue areas. Charge too much in the restaurants which serve more day visitors than guests and they’d lose that patronage, vs fine dining at “hotel rates” and they may have to substantially increase the room rates.
As a tourist you may feel “maybe a bit ripped off”, but perhaps realising that you paid a wee part in maintaining a heritage property for generations to come helps assuage that feeling.., just a little bit…
Yikes. Being under the flight path for Heathrow would completely ruin the experience for many. Here you’re trying to have this vintage premium experience but with noisy jets overhead from one of the busiest airports in the world. That’s a fail.
Not sure if this is a U.K.-ism but 170 years old isn’t that special. Sleeping there perhaps but buildings from the 1850s are relatively common.
Stunning location with great views. Staying in a place like, since the general public can visit, I'd want to be able to do things the general public wouldn't normally get, when just visiting for the day and not just getting a room to stay in. I'd also expect a 5 star service for a 5 star hotel. I grew up in a country estate that is now owned and managed by the National Trust, which is actually a charity, not a government owned company. That was a great experience and a bit different of an experience than just visiting the estate.
Oh you guys would love hotel Terworm in the Netherlands. I stayed there in April of this year and also, had amazing views and surroundings like this one..
Just a bit smaller.
Stunning environment. Really enjoyed this video.
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Great to see this channel growing! Video on hotels before they get abandoned, then again after LOL
Listen agree most of the comments. But as a retro boutique hotel operator, clean the carpets and furniture 😊
Loved this. Excellent review.
I disagree that old carpet and unpredictable hot water are too be expected in an old structure. At that price point carpet should be updated regularly and hot water a tank should localized closer to each room. imo.
I think the hot water is more understandable. As a historic property, there will be all sorts of restrictions on changes to the structure of the property, which are likely to make things like changing plumbing much more difficult, especially when the operator is only leasing it. Carpets should be fairly easy to keep up to date though!
Mindboggling to think that this whole ass property was owned by a single family, really shows how wide the gap is to an average citizen even in modern times let alone 19th century
The national trust is not a government owned company, i should know i work for them.we are a registered charity
Old carpet and worn sofa's are certainly NOT "something to expect for an old structure". Certainly not at that price point anyway.
Been for more Northern England and living in a town close to a stately home ok not as grand as this one but one I can visit daily if i wanted using a £50 a year pass, this kind of thing just doesn't appeal to me for the price, there many homes like this around the country you could visit and enter for a day for small cost and do activities and go in the house for a tour but then go stayover elsewhere way cheaper close by, Maybe its cool for tourists or the rich or people into history but for a general English person i dont think it quite hits the spot not even for a one off experience, because you can get 95% of the experience for way way less money at other stately homes.
A beautiful old building is no excuse for crappy, dirty old furniture. Or carpet.
My wife and I stayed here for a weekend a couple of years ago, and it was not a good experience. We found the furnishings very tired and with deep new scratches on some furniture. Stairways were dusty and the service was poor and one meal we sent back three times because it was cold. We also had one of the 'wing' rooms and had a view of rubbish so we changed to the main house. It certainly was not an ultra luxury hotel. It also played far to much on the 1960s candle which was tasteless at times. Would not recommend
It's pronounced Buckinghamsheer. Not shyre. Top man. Cheers for the vid
Edit: most things here ending in shire are pronounced sheer, Worcestershire sauce is just pronounced Woosta. No sheer at all.
Whoops!
I think it's pronounced more like Buckingumshear
I think it's pronounced more like Buckingumshear
And he pronounced Cliveden wrong. It’s ‘Clive-den’. Plus he said the National Trust was a government agency - it’s not.
Great video Jake ! Can you go up into that amazing tower on the property, or is that off limits.
Dirty anything is NOT acceptable at this price point.🇨🇦
Can’t believe you came to England, we live pretty close to where you stayed!
Fun Fact: If you go up to Scotland you can stay on the King's land at Balmoral though its not a marketed as anything luxury and its just some cottages but you can do it.
You can’t on one hand claim your standard is x and then have some rooms with terrible outlooks. Better to not have the extra rooms and maintain that higher standard. I’d be really annoyed to have that room for the money.
Wow! You got ripped off!! Parking lot view?? Lol!!! The room decor was dreary and sad. It looked like a servant's room. Nice pool and riverside location. But nah.
Interesting...less than $100 more than a room at the Disney World Contemporary Resort ($970/night), though I would hope the rooms are decorated better at this one.
"Buckingham, shire"
I could totally see Otho Sackville wanting to go for this, if not for his untimely "retirement" by Sharkie and Wormtongue..
Beautiful place! Love you reviews.
I've visited the grounds hundreds of times with family (we live less than half an hour away and entry is free with a National Trust membership), but I've never seen inside the hotel.
Maybe if I ever pull my life together and get a decent job I'll stay a couple of nights there.
Looks like blenheim palace... So many palaces in the great Britain... awesome... 🌐🇬🇧❤️
I wanted to see what Relais & chateaux own in Australia since we were only colonised in 1888 so… everything is pretty much new (the main reason I love travelling Europe so much), and they don’t have any hotel properties but they DO operate Tetsuya’s, one of Sydney’s best restaurants (and in the world). It was a complete wtf moment 😂 but the restaurant is in a heritage listed property in the middle of Sydney City so that makes more sense I guess.
The British sometimes find the American idea of good service a little overwhelming.
House looks fab but bedroom decors is a bit boring grey and other grey. not exactly luxury. ugly wires hanging everywhere. Doesnt exactly scream countryhouse ambiance.
It costs $1000 a night to stay at a local resort in BC for a room with two queen beds side by side. This is an amazing deal
I was looking at the carpet in the suite thinking that it looked a bit grubby and then mention was made of it
Surely replacing the same couldn't be a major outlay in terms of operating cost?
Would it kill them to put the television in an armoire. That room looks so much like a dorm room
14:27 How would you rate AG1 if they were not a sponsor? 2/10, or is that too generous?
Beautiful estate . Lackluster rooms.
Love your videos Jake but just one minor point that the National Trust is a charity rather than a government agency.
Source: Am a Member!
Would love to see footage from the Marriott hotel you stayed in.
Just another wonderful video from the bright sun crew. Thank you!
Not very related to the video, but thank you so much for continuing to make travel content. Always so much fun to watch, and you take such a different approach to it, I love the format compared to typical travel vlogs
Well thank you for continuing to watch!
Probably worth mentioning that service is better when you stay more than one night at a hotel. I generally stay a minimum of 5 nights and the service gets better with familiarity, you can actually become 'friends' with the staff, if you are lucky. Just saying, not being critical.
"Especially if you want to get VERY British." lol
The website of this property is a bit disappointing.
Images of the rooms are obscured by a drop down window (that cannot be removed) when using a tablet or mobile handset.
[I have double checked the settings on my device]
Many of the images of the rooms are under exposed, of course this can be corrected by adjusting the brightness on my screen which is something that I normally needn't bother with.
If the sofa and carpet are a bit tatty, it probably makes the experience more authentic, as many old money English houses are like that.
Relais and Chateaux does not operate or manage any hotel, but is an association of small family run boutique luxury hotels around the world!
SCREAMING at your pronunciation of Buckinghamshire 😂
It’s pronounced ‘Clive - den’. And it’s ‘Buckingham-shure’. Oh and the National Trust isn’t a government agency.
Bu-ck-in-gh-am-sh-ire…yo got to love the Americans😂😂
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@@BrightSunTravels Don't worry, you will be "American" soon enough 😁
Less than 50 years left before the USA annexes Canada, if you go after Fallout's timeline.
It is just me or 5 stars or luxury hotels aren’t as good as they used to be?
I remember the first times I’ve stayed in a 5 start hotel and I remember being amazed with everything. I’ve had been in many other 3/4 stars hotels, some were way better than they should be. So the first 5 star hotel was an experience to remember.
Since then, I’ve stayed in several other 5 stars hotels and I was so unimpressed. Since bad breakfasts, not many amenities and the service was underwhelming
My old co worker. Him and his wife has a bnb out side of paris. He says its wonderful place to stay.
The National Trust is a Charity governed by its board of trustees, it is not a Government body, although it has some special legal powers.
Nicely done
There is or was a tv series on Clivedon. I think it would give you a better insight on what goes on. They are having difficulty with staff, as in understaffed. This is due to their location and Covid did not help that situation any better. The kitchens are illogically placed and in my opinion not safe for staff, due to its location on the property. Would I stay there, why yes, yes I would. It is on my bucket list, but at the price, unreachable.
Your link isn't free. What am I missing?
no excuses...5 star means 5 star....this is no where near that.
You can assign that rating to many aspects of a property or hotel. What this hotel lacks with a modern 5 star, more than makes up for it with features that are completely unique to it, because of its history and age. Apples and oranges
Americans being amazed by old buildings always amuses me lol, my house growing up is over 250 years old and the primary school I went to was based around a victorian building so it's just like normal for things to be that old lmao
The price is 'if you have to ask...' but that property would cost a large fortune to maintain indeed
I wonder if Jake has seen 4 In a Bed or Hotel Inspector and is going to visit some of the places on that show 😂
There is a point where even if you are filthy rich, spending $2649 CAD on a 'hotel room' per night becomes a grotesque obscenity. It's oft stated that the ultra-wealthy live by a different set of rules. If that's the case, spending this sort of coin just to go to sleep and miss it all puts you in a class apart that I would respectfully categorize as 'rich dummies'.
Not a great price for the room you got room abit crap
The fact that the turned it into a hotel, but not a Waldorf Astoria
I hope you do some Japan hotels.
The whole front of the building being relegated to just being a damn parking lot is kind of sad. There is so much more potential in there.
Going to the Uk (england and scotland) as well as Ireland next summer. Looking to spend at least 1 night in a posh/luxury hotel/manor/castle but maybe not as expensive as this place.
Anyone have any suggestions? So far the Bath Priory is on the list as are a few slightly less glamorous places.
NANCY ASTOR'S HOME....has played such a large part in BRITISH history
love ur videos!!
You had to see the help through your window? Uggh.
Mr Lee was the Astor’s butler
"A place like this should be owned by the government." Not where I'm from. Beautiful place, though.
Is the Cottage called
'Mr. Profumo'?! 😮
You should check out Malmaison in Oxford it's a old UK prison most of the rooms are the old cells :)
Glad you enjoyed your stay in the UK :) If you ever return and want to do abandoned videos here theres a ton of fascinating abandoned places in and around London!
Worth noting that anyone who's a National Trust member can visit Cliveden as part of their membership, and you can usually get a few days free as they have offers throughout the year for 2-3 day of free passes for familes.
My mum broke her ankle here. Nice to see you cover something in the UK.
Haha Doug wants his score back
If I go there imma eat at the ruby Tuesday across the street 🤣