I’m a military officer and Im going be honest it’s not what you think it is, most pilots can’t wait to leave the service. Mostly because you’re an officer first then a pilot. Also many pilot want to leave because of pay the airline pay is very lucrative with seniority so many try to leave as soon as possible to get their time.
@@jonasbaine3538For one thing, from what I have read, military pilots especially fighter pilots don’t get that much flight time for the most part, so building hours can take forever if one is in the military. Additionally, as someone else already mentioned, in the military, one is an officer before one is a pilot. The needs of the military will always come first.
A lot of people recommend going into the military to build flight hours. It’s not as good of an option as it sounds. Not only would I not recommend the military in this train wreck that the DoD has become, but while you might come out with all your flight hours and great training, that’s a 4-6 year commitment and a lot of that time won’t even be flying.
If you’re a pilot and you want to join the military a little piece of advice: try the reserves or guard. That way you can fly for whatever airline and take some time off a couple days a month flying whatever military aircraft. I do not recommend active duty military flying because you don’t fly that often. When you’re in the reserves or guard, you have to keep flying a couple days a month to stay proficient on your airframe, all the while making a good living flying in the airlines.
Most of us who are in the military and ending our pilot careers wish we would have done it the civilian way. While its been a priveledge and weve had some adventures, most of our souls have been crushed these last 5 years. Its a 13ish year contract usually.
Dont associate the military with giving you flight training, ask any military pilot they will laugh at that idea. Needs of the military first, not yours.
@@Moheezy lol very funny I know, but this is humbly coming from the top pilot producing detachment next to the Airforce academy. Det 157. The way they trained us from the get go is to accept the fact your first function is to be an officer. Unfortunately the way the U.S. military advertises aviation jobs in the military is very “top gun” esque, but really it’s not. It’s actually a lot of paperwork lol
My advice to my younger self would be….”Find your own passion, figure out what motivates you to get up every morning and keeps you moving forward in life”
@@swift82-pilot as someone who is a few years behind you (I’m doing college for my own reasons, but I’m open to warrant flight officer when I finish), how are the career prospects for during/after warrant officer flying?
750 hours instead of 1500 hour requirement. Free flight training and get paid during hour building and training. Contract is long. You don't build hours as quickly as you could outside. You can be a CFI on the weekends.
You try out for it after you get a degree and commission saying you will serve 8 years even if you never get to be a pilot ever. To put it into perspective, the training cost the military about $2 million per person at UPT and the multiple planes you fly will cost over hundreds of millions of dollars, think about the type of people they are looking for to fill those positions
I did go on, I retired...It was the easiest job I've ever had, and now I get two monthly checks for the rest of my life for doing an easy job that sent me all over the world many times over. Signed up broke and walked out debt free with comfortable savings account, two free degrees and two free certs. If you hated your service time, you were either a f-up or in a low asvab career field...
I was prior enlisted in the military. Definitely needs of the military first. If you wanna be an airline pilot I’d say the military isn’t your first choice. Currently getting my A&P license. 2 separate worlds. All hardworking people.
If you want to fly, you had better look at the needs of the military _before_ you sign the dotted line. If you do it correctly, then you get trained without going $100k or more in debt. It's better to fly multi-crew planes than single seat fighters. Don't be combative in the flight deck. Luck and timing are critical to the outcome you get out both the military and flying.
Two different things though. I guess it matters what type you flew as well in the Air Force. A lot easier to transition if you are flying multi engines. Civil is obviously extremely respectable but it’s like being a bus driver compared to a fast jet pilot like a Euro fighter or F-15. Most people here in England join the RAF with top degrees or the ability to get one but choose to go straight in. They could go and work in the city and be on 6 figures but choose to get paid around $30,000 to be pilots instead. Because that’s all they ever wanted to be. We probably have way less military planes per capita in the uk than in the USA. So the ones that do fly them, would do the job for free if there was no salary. Sure work is work after a while, but they aren’t in there to train to be civil aviators eventually. They are genuinely fulfilling their dreams and are the best people for the job. They have standardised aptitude testing and evaluations that last for days at RAF Cranwell. There are hundreds of top quality A+ grade applicants not accepted as they only have so many places to applicants. Don’t get me wrong, many are disillusioned when they leave, but also have no regrets too if you know what I mean. Im sure all their anecdotes would be from RAF life even after they come out. But that’s everywhere now, the disillusionment. Because we are more connected to other cultures. So when told to bomb crap out of wherever, it’s not as simple as doing your duty. Because people are waking up that to do their duty as a human being is first and foremost actually. Even as an individual. If it’s justified, they will do the job and insist. But if it isn’t, then people are starting to get annoyed. And rightly so. It’s not cowardice. It’s mercy. They know that UK and US aircraft losses will be minimal if any, compared to the typical belligerents we fight against, so it’s not about being scared of combat or anything.
Did 3 years of air cadets and fuckin hated it. We did 2 outtings in those 3 years to an airport, and both times were to ride passenger in a glider. Almost like a "field trip". Everything else was outdoor survival "in case you're shot down", living off MREs, all that shit. It was like other people are saying, military first, pilot second.
Been in almost 9 years trying to be a pilot in the active duty military. 100 flight hours, Masters, PRK, passing officer test scores, good appraisals, awards, and still no entry into any type of aviation. Granted, I did get picked up to be an IT officer for which I’m grateful for. However, often times the military doesn’t give you what you want or think you deserve. It gives you what it wants you to have.
Yeah that’s what made me change my decision on joining the air national guard air national guard. You could possibly get hired on for a pilot slot but they don’t need you just yet so it can be a long wait time
@@jd8184 nah I just decided to finish out school and go the civilian route for flight instead. I guess the commitment and the uncertainty of actually getting the job I wanted in the force was what changed my decision
What branch are you in? Are you interested in flying helicopters? If so become an Army warrant officer and flight helicopters I got picked up as a 2 year specialist and now I'm going through Army flight school
@@christopherbassit2757He would have still had the same job. He could have gone in the military to be a pilot after college. The military would pay for flight school and everything. You serve 10 years then get out and fly for the airlines. That’s my current path. Military is a great option.
@@rohenry9962Yeah, and you leave out the part nobody wants people to know: You don’t just get to decide whether you’ll fly or not, and you’ll lose 10 years of your life to a military that potentially doesn’t allow you to become a pilot.
lol all 🧢 from this man . Anybody in the aviation industry knows that anyone with military flight experience has an automatic foot in the door that’s the real reason he said he would’ve gotten military because it would’ve saved him from going to the regionals.
The advice applies more to structure and routine than to actual flight training. Part 61 schools will allow you to be prepared to finsh necessary training in a matter of months instead of years for the disciplined and self motivated.
The military is the type of company that will pay to have you do very expensive flight training over 2 years and then hardly ley you fly and judge your career over multiple desk jobs at once instead. Insane. In one sense, he is right. Flight training is extremely expensive otherwise. The military basically pays its pilots get the expertise to leave since the military won't pay them to do the job they trained them for.
I was going to join the military for the same reason, almost 4 years now later I'm glad I didn't make that decision. Many veterans are not encouraging young men anymore to join neither.
Nope. Seems like a nice guy but The real answer should’ve been,,,get your training done fast as possible and get that seniority number ASAP. No time to waste.
If he were being honest, that pilot would have said, he would have become a physician or a lawyer instead. Being a pilot is one of the most thankless and unrewarding careers. 🤣
@@afridgetoofar1818 nah Riddle is 250k with a bachelors degree bro.💀 100k is about how much vocational flight school program costs, like ATP for example.
I’m a military officer and Im going be honest it’s not what you think it is, most pilots can’t wait to leave the service. Mostly because you’re an officer first then a pilot. Also many pilot want to leave because of pay the airline pay is very lucrative with seniority so many try to leave as soon as possible to get their time.
air force or navy
Can you share why?
@@jonasbaine3538because it’s all BS. The US hasn’t fought a meaningful war since at least the 1950’s.
@@jonasbaine3538For one thing, from what I have read, military pilots especially fighter pilots don’t get that much flight time for the most part, so building hours can take forever if one is in the military. Additionally, as someone else already mentioned, in the military, one is an officer before one is a pilot. The needs of the military will always come first.
A military officer that says “ima”….greaaaat
A lot of people recommend going into the military to build flight hours. It’s not as good of an option as it sounds. Not only would I not recommend the military in this train wreck that the DoD has become, but while you might come out with all your flight hours and great training, that’s a 4-6 year commitment and a lot of that time won’t even be flying.
If you’re a pilot and you want to join the military a little piece of advice: try the reserves or guard. That way you can fly for whatever airline and take some time off a couple days a month flying whatever military aircraft. I do not recommend active duty military flying because you don’t fly that often. When you’re in the reserves or guard, you have to keep flying a couple days a month to stay proficient on your airframe, all the while making a good living flying in the airlines.
Does that depend on if you fly fighters or heavies? heavies needed to move people and cargo around
@@geddon436fighters are one engine. So it would have to be heavies. Since they are equivalent to airliners
Most of us who are in the military and ending our pilot careers wish we would have done it the civilian way. While its been a priveledge and weve had some adventures, most of our souls have been crushed these last 5 years. Its a 13ish year contract usually.
Dont associate the military with giving you flight training, ask any military pilot they will laugh at that idea. Needs of the military first, not yours.
needs of the military in terms of what aircraft you fly.
@@connor2701 EVERYTHING
You’re an officer first, THEN a pilot. Coming from an ex AF rotc cadet.
@@alexturnqest6202 lmfao. Relax mr Almost Sir 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Moheezy lol very funny I know, but this is humbly coming from the top pilot producing detachment next to the Airforce academy. Det 157. The way they trained us from the get go is to accept the fact your first function is to be an officer. Unfortunately the way the U.S. military advertises aviation jobs in the military is very “top gun” esque, but really it’s not. It’s actually a lot of paperwork lol
My advice to my younger self would be….”Find your own passion, figure out what motivates you to get up every morning and keeps you moving forward in life”
We would all be eating food all day , swimming in pools we can’t afford, telling old housewife tales off and masterbating with that logic bro.
Best advice
Lol
Guard/Reserve is the way to go IF you want to fly for the Military!
That’s probably the best advice I’d give anyone.
Been flying in the National Guard for 17 years now, no college degree (Warrant Officer). It’s provided a great life for my family.
@@swift82-pilot as someone who is a few years behind you (I’m doing college for my own reasons, but I’m open to warrant flight officer when I finish), how are the career prospects for during/after warrant officer flying?
Damn im interested
@theyoutubecommentsthats a fucked up thing to say to someone
That guy is nice.
I talked to him and asked him a few questions as well.
He is STILL a Flight Instructor.
Hes talking about structure for his life. Like holding yourself accountable, being responsible etc.
He’s just trying to be the best version of himself he can be
750 hours instead of 1500 hour requirement. Free flight training and get paid during hour building and training. Contract is long. You don't build hours as quickly as you could outside. You can be a CFI on the weekends.
You try out for it after you get a degree and commission saying you will serve 8 years even if you never get to be a pilot ever.
To put it into perspective, the training cost the military about $2 million per person at UPT and the multiple planes you fly will cost over hundreds of millions of dollars, think about the type of people they are looking for to fill those positions
Odds are better if you go into officer program with a ppl
You got the right job already.
He would have become a mechanic…pilots need heroes too.
He's he's telling you to go to the military because he's never been in the military..... Do not go to the military!
Nah I’ve been there, best phase of my life
I would redo my 21 years of military service without hesitation!
@@F110mech Go on then .
I did go on, I retired...It was the easiest job I've ever had, and now I get two monthly checks for the rest of my life for doing an easy job that sent me all over the world many times over. Signed up broke and walked out debt free with comfortable savings account, two free degrees and two free certs. If you hated your service time, you were either a f-up or in a low asvab career field...
@@F110mech thank you for your service but it is nothing like it was your day
The military is very dangerous captain you stuck with the right choice of coming to delta
It’s really not. Level of danger is is mainly dependent on branch and if he was referring to the AF that’s essentially the safest branch to serve.
AF as in Armed Forces? The safest? 🤔
I was prior enlisted in the military. Definitely needs of the military first. If you wanna be an airline pilot I’d say the military isn’t your first choice. Currently getting my A&P license. 2 separate worlds. All hardworking people.
If you want to fly, you had better look at the needs of the military _before_ you sign the dotted line. If you do it correctly, then you get trained without going $100k or more in debt. It's better to fly multi-crew planes than single seat fighters. Don't be combative in the flight deck. Luck and timing are critical to the outcome you get out both the military and flying.
Two different things though. I guess it matters what type you flew as well in the Air Force. A lot easier to transition if you are flying multi engines. Civil is obviously extremely respectable but it’s like being a bus driver compared to a fast jet pilot like a Euro fighter or F-15. Most people here in England join the RAF with top degrees or the ability to get one but choose to go straight in. They could go and work in the city and be on 6 figures but choose to get paid around $30,000 to be pilots instead.
Because that’s all they ever wanted to be. We probably have way less military planes per capita in the uk than in the USA. So the ones that do fly them, would do the job for free if there was no salary. Sure work is work after a while, but they aren’t in there to train to be civil aviators eventually.
They are genuinely fulfilling their dreams and are the best people for the job. They have standardised aptitude testing and evaluations that last for days at RAF Cranwell. There are hundreds of top quality A+ grade applicants not accepted as they only have so many places to applicants. Don’t get me wrong, many are disillusioned when they leave, but also have no regrets too if you know what I mean. Im sure all their anecdotes would be from RAF life even after they come out.
But that’s everywhere now, the disillusionment. Because we are more connected to other cultures. So when told to bomb crap out of wherever, it’s not as simple as doing your duty. Because people are waking up that to do their duty as a human being is first and foremost actually. Even as an individual. If it’s justified, they will do the job and insist. But if it isn’t, then people are starting to get annoyed. And rightly so. It’s not cowardice. It’s mercy. They know that UK and US aircraft losses will be minimal if any, compared to the typical belligerents we fight against, so it’s not about being scared of combat or anything.
Did 3 years of air cadets and fuckin hated it. We did 2 outtings in those 3 years to an airport, and both times were to ride passenger in a glider. Almost like a "field trip". Everything else was outdoor survival "in case you're shot down", living off MREs, all that shit. It was like other people are saying, military first, pilot second.
Been in almost 9 years trying to be a pilot in the active duty military. 100 flight hours, Masters, PRK, passing officer test scores, good appraisals, awards, and still no entry into any type of aviation. Granted, I did get picked up to be an IT officer for which I’m grateful for. However, often times the military doesn’t give you what you want or think you deserve. It gives you what it wants you to have.
Yeah that’s what made me change my decision on joining the air national guard air national guard. You could possibly get hired on for a pilot slot but they don’t need you just yet so it can be a long wait time
Why didn't you just drop a warrant packet? Also, can't you revert? We have aviators the reverted from major to aviator warrant.
@@Obbijyou mean you switched from applying to active duty to reserve/ air guard?
@@jd8184 nah I just decided to finish out school and go the civilian route for flight instead. I guess the commitment and the uncertainty of actually getting the job I wanted in the force was what changed my decision
What branch are you in? Are you interested in flying helicopters? If so become an Army warrant officer and flight helicopters I got picked up as a 2 year specialist and now I'm going through Army flight school
I wouldn't do that if I was him. My opinion.
Why?
@@malice-SB look at his current job
@@christopherbassit2757 super nice
@@christopherbassit2757He would have still had the same job. He could have gone in the military to be a pilot after college. The military would pay for flight school and everything. You serve 10 years then get out and fly for the airlines. That’s my current path. Military is a great option.
@@rohenry9962Yeah, and you leave out the part nobody wants people to know: You don’t just get to decide whether you’ll fly or not, and you’ll lose 10 years of your life to a military that potentially doesn’t allow you to become a pilot.
100% Agree
I agree with him 💯%!!!
lol all 🧢 from this man . Anybody in the aviation industry knows that anyone with military flight experience has an automatic foot in the door that’s the real reason he said he would’ve gotten military because it would’ve saved him from going to the regionals.
The advice applies more to structure and routine than to actual flight training. Part 61 schools will allow you to be prepared to finsh necessary training in a matter of months instead of years for the disciplined and self motivated.
I’m 19 years old but I’m scared of the debt
I feel they should force everyone to join between the ages of 21-30. This would make our country so much better.
@@Zenith-pq7qh you been watching the Batman joker movie to much.
@@Zenith-pq7qh oh boy, what meds you taking ?
bruh don't go to the military if you wanna quit and work for airlines
both are pretty similar but completely different
Correcet❤👍Agree
huh??!!
the military route probably won't pay as much as going straight to commercial flights
Damn it, I was getting inspired until all these comments brought me down
Haha it’s a secret 🤫 recruitment tool for aspiring pilots
But the last video, vietnam vet dude, said to stay out of the military
The military is the type of company that will pay to have you do very expensive flight training over 2 years and then hardly ley you fly and judge your career over multiple desk jobs at once instead. Insane.
In one sense, he is right. Flight training is extremely expensive otherwise. The military basically pays its pilots get the expertise to leave since the military won't pay them to do the job they trained them for.
help !!! Emergency!!!!!
I'd feel much safer flying in an airliner commanded by ex military. I'm curious if airliner crash stats would bear that out. 🤔
I want an airline captain with red formal jacket suit and a black necktie, please.
Isn’t he the guy that gave the speech that it was gonna be his last flight?
He could still be in the miltary and have that job
Yooo I remember that
in usa military too much yelling SIR YES SIR, whats the point of all that noise lol
Same
I was going to join the military for the same reason, almost 4 years now later I'm glad I didn't make that decision.
Many veterans are not encouraging young men anymore to join neither.
Because the political administrations are changing how the military should be instead of how it really should be.
Nope. Seems like a nice guy but The real answer should’ve been,,,get your training done fast as possible and get that seniority number ASAP. No time to waste.
This is the absolute worse piece of advise 😂
Best piece of advice is not get advice from a you tube video
If he were being honest, that pilot would have said, he would have become a physician or a lawyer instead. Being a pilot is one of the most thankless and unrewarding careers. 🤣
Mind over matter
would airforce be good before going into flying
DO NOT JOIN THE MILITARY
Odd thing to say, many would say the other way round
The military doesn't give you that many benefits for that at all
Military is all about politics nowadays, that’s why I’m spending $100k from my pocket to become a pilot.
Embry Riddle?
@@afridgetoofar1818 nah Riddle is 250k with a bachelors degree bro.💀 100k is about how much vocational flight school program costs, like ATP for example.
@@alexturnqest6202if you go millitary you can use GI BILL to cheat your way to free embry riddle 4 year degree
Bro, never expected so good scripted propoganda in 2023 👍😂
Hire
Worst advice ever
Eat less maybe??