If only! If only there'd been YT and HH in 1991 when, as a newbie, the harder I tried - the worse my slice got (over the trees onto the fairway next door). My handicap wasn't counted in strokes but balls left per round. If I'd viewed your fix, here, that day (when I sliced so bad I had to fossick for others' abandoned balls in order to finish) might never have happened. Rats. And muchas gracias, Amiga!
Recent subscriber here, great content , keep doing what you're doing I've found these videos very informative and interesting. Any content that gives you the bug to want to get out there and play is great. 👍🏻
Love the simple explanation on how to fix the dreaded slice,and as someone that has 2 bulging disc’s and arthritis in the spine I at times find it hard to get the face square and this sounds like something I can do Great work as always🎉
You know it did cross my mind to possibly write a book or start a RUclips channel with the title "How to play good golf when over 50 with spinal issues whilst trying to avoid serious injury and not necessarily looking pretty for the internet" Not sure how many takers I'd get though. That's one of the main problems with having back trouble ... the heart says:- "YES,THAT'S IT!!" and the back says ... noooooooooo! I recently drove a 305 yard par 4 and holed the putt for an eagle despite the bad back (although in fairness it was pretty dry and the ball was running long). Should I really worry what my swing looks like though and whether I slice it occasionally (especially when the wind is left to right?) I had a very serious spinal injury when I was about 14 playing cricket when my front foot slipped as a young fast bowler and was left statuesque unable to even bend down. I should have gone to hospital but didn't and played golf the next day not wanting to disappoint my partner in a foursomes competition. The only thing I could move on the first tee were my hands and arms. He looked really worried and asked if I wanted to pull out. I didn't and we came 3rd and won some prizes. It loosened up on the way round but the legacy has been appalling so I sympathise completely and have to take substantial amounts of ibuprofen to enjoy my sport despite the physical issues. All the very best to you good sir may you enjoy your game in whatever way you can. 🙏👍🙂
@@neilpeace7734 I’m not even 38 and im having all this trouble(I also have carpal tunnel in my left arm) and have had to recently retire from cricket where I played for my state and just missed out on national selection due to my injuries and I’m having to rely on painkillers just to get through the week so I can enjoy golf on the weekends,I can’t walk the course atm due to my back and can only use a motorised cart,and despite my injuries my GA handicap is 12.1,I did get it down to 9.8 before I played my last season with cricket and didn’t hit a golf ball for 5 months and when I came back I was injured and it’s gone back up which I hate but now I’m getting into the swing of things and haven’t lost a golf ball and have used that same ball for the last 96 holes I have played and now not worrying about losing balls i can now concentrate on having a better swing that isn’t taxing on my body
@@michaelgillies9075 G'day mate and nice to hear from you down under. That was a terrific achievement getting as far as you did with the cricket respect for that. The two games do seem to go together pretty well and I have always loved both since I was a kid. You just have to accept that as you get older the flexibility starts to go and I have been caught out on several occasions once when I was on a bike and turned my head too quickly resulting in an almost unbelievably painful neck injury which took about 2 weeks to recover and requiring a brace (a home made one). At the end of the day you sometimes have to sacrifice pretty for effective as many older players find but, as you have said, keeping it straight and in play is a big advantage. I was put out of action on another occasion just by putting on a pair of socks no joke and I had a hot water bottle on it for a couple of hours which was too hot and I ended up with blisters all over my lower back which apparently looked horrific so although these guys talk about rotation that can sometimes be a lot easier said than done. My back issues don't seem as severe as your troubles though tbh so wishing you all the very best in whatever sports you get involved in and especially the golf. Incidentally, when I first started playing cricket, I modelled my bowling action on Thommo with some success 🙂
@@neilpeace7734 your spot on there and unfortunately I have lost the passion to play cricket anymore and it feels like a chore to be there from 1-6pm but I’d gladly get up at 6am and spend 10hrs at the course and get there 2 hrs before my round starts so there alone is saying something
Great tips thanks. Just wondered do the same ideas work on the irons, say a 7 iron, given that its a steeper swing path. Should i still be trying to get my hand and arms back more?
thanks for brilliant advice on stopping a slice:) been hitting slices badly last while, even hitting a moving car near our course!!! fortunately only small dent on the roof😬😏
I completely disagree that 'slicers' don't get the club far enough back and inside - the exact opposite is most often true of slicers - I see it all the time. Your average slicer takes the club far too inside and their hands and arm are almost resting on their right shoulder - this results in the club being thrust outwards as a reaction to this stored energy in their rotated right shoulder - the resulting over-the-top, out-to-in swing path is then 100% guaranteed. If you can get slicers to do the opposite Matt Wolff-type steeper/more-verticle backswing, it immediately reduces left-to-right curvature by 50%+ on the first swing. This is also backed by factual data whereby Pros swing with a steeper shoulder tilt of 40% versus a much flatter and around shoulder plane of 20% that amateurs/slicers use. You can see this so clearly when you watch a brand new golfer try to hit the ball for the first time - they will swing the club super-flat in an extreme around their body motion. Can you learn to hit a ball from a super-deep flatter position? Obviously yes - but it takes a lot of practice to not have the body's immediate response to this stored energy position to have the club start down from the inside and to resist the body's stored shoulder energy to thrust the handle out towards the ball. The secondary effect of this too-inside flatter shoulder take-away is that the clubface will now be opening to the target line at a MUCH higher rate due to the flatter shoulder inside takeaway versus a steep upright takeaway with more pro-style shoulder tilt - this is just simple physics of the club face following the shoulder tilt (obviously yes the golfer can be overriding everything but mathematically this is true as a generalization). The too inside, too flat shoulders, too deep club, that is then trusted out as a reaction for an over-the-top delivery is basically the definition of what your average slicer does. The other issue that is happening is when a Right-hand dominant human puts their left hand on a golf club, in the brain-dominant fashion that we place our left hand on a golf club, is that the brain will now allocate resources in an attempt to tell the left hand, left arm how to hit a golf ball - and given we don't have much skill controlling our left side to do physically skillful things, the disaster is now guaranteed. I will jump to the answer of an experiment I have repeated many times - and that is if you take 10 slicers and have them remove their left hand from the club, and then have them hit an 8-iron with only their right hand, off a tee, with their right hand in the position it would naturally be on the grip, then 90% of the slicers will now draw the ball - even if they've been a slicer for 30 years - it's an immediate cure and insight into what is happening. If you can prove to a golfer that in 1 shot they can hit a draw, having been a lifetime slicer, you will get their immediate attention. The question is why, by taking the left hand off the club, will 90%+ golfers immediately draw the ball? The answer is that when a human holds a golf club with only their right hand and swings it back, they absolutely will not put their right wrist in flexion - it will naturally go into extension - just like it would do when they are throwing a ball - except these same golfers, when their left hand is also placed on the club, and their now confused brain starts to try and generate power with their left shoulder, left arm, and left wrist, will now 98% of the time force this same right wrist into flexion - which forces the club face to open. When you show people this, they simply cannot believe this is happening and frankly do not believe that their brain is overriding the body's natural right-wrist extension position, that their part of the brain controlling their right wrist knows to be correct. When people ballroom dance, someone has to lead and someone has to follow. After you show people that their uncoordinated left hand is leading their golf swing and forcing their right wrist into positions it shouldn't be in - the lightbulb goes on and their golfing life will immediately change. It is the job of the left wrist to be completely subservient to the right wrist and it, while most often initially uncomfortable, has to accept being uncomfortable, until it feels normal. A human acting in a naturally athletic manner will never, ever place their right wrist into flexion when throwing a spear, throwing a dart, throwing a ball, taking a slap shot in hockey, hitting a tennis forehand - they will never do it - yet this happens to 98% of slicers immediately when their left hand is placed on a golf club. Once they know this and can see the insanity of this, they will change and they will make the lead/left wrist bow into flexion so that their dominant power delivering right hand can be put into extension at the top of the swing.
I agree. When I started taking my backswing WAY outside, I immediately stopped slicing. If anything, the opposite issue started occurring. Oddly enough, the age old advice of backing the ball up didn’t work for me either. I started moving the ball more towards my front foot, and between those two things I never slice now. Sometimes have a bad snap hook, but that usually involves some sort of Jim or Johnnie (I am the town drunk, after all 😂😂😂)
The way he talked felt really rushed..would have helped me if spent more time elaborating on the specific concepts that he was describing and focus on the details.
If only! If only there'd been YT and HH in 1991 when, as a newbie, the harder I tried - the worse my slice got (over the trees onto the fairway next door). My handicap wasn't counted in strokes but balls left per round. If I'd viewed your fix, here, that day (when I sliced so bad I had to fossick for others' abandoned balls in order to finish) might never have happened. Rats. And muchas gracias, Amiga!
Recent subscriber here, great content , keep doing what you're doing I've found these videos very informative and interesting. Any content that gives you the bug to want to get out there and play is great. 👍🏻
Thank you!!
Love the simple explanation on how to fix the dreaded slice,and as someone that has 2 bulging disc’s and arthritis in the spine I at times find it hard to get the face square and this sounds like something I can do
Great work as always🎉
You know it did cross my mind to possibly write a book or start a RUclips channel with the title "How to play good golf when over 50 with spinal issues whilst trying to avoid serious injury and not necessarily looking pretty for the internet" Not sure how many takers I'd get though. That's one of the main problems with having back trouble ... the heart says:- "YES,THAT'S IT!!" and the back says ... noooooooooo! I recently drove a 305 yard par 4 and holed the putt for an eagle despite the bad back (although in fairness it was pretty dry and the ball was running long). Should I really worry what my swing looks like though and whether I slice it occasionally (especially when the wind is left to right?) I had a very serious spinal injury when I was about 14 playing cricket when my front foot slipped as a young fast bowler and was left statuesque unable to even bend down. I should have gone to hospital but didn't and played golf the next day not wanting to disappoint my partner in a foursomes competition. The only thing I could move on the first tee were my hands and arms. He looked really worried and asked if I wanted to pull out. I didn't and we came 3rd and won some prizes. It loosened up on the way round but the legacy has been appalling so I sympathise completely and have to take substantial amounts of ibuprofen to enjoy my sport despite the physical issues. All the very best to you good sir may you enjoy your game in whatever way you can. 🙏👍🙂
@@neilpeace7734 I’m not even 38 and im having all this trouble(I also have carpal tunnel in my left arm) and have had to recently retire from cricket where I played for my state and just missed out on national selection due to my injuries and I’m having to rely on painkillers just to get through the week so I can enjoy golf on the weekends,I can’t walk the course atm due to my back and can only use a motorised cart,and despite my injuries my GA handicap is 12.1,I did get it down to 9.8 before I played my last season with cricket and didn’t hit a golf ball for 5 months and when I came back I was injured and it’s gone back up which I hate but now I’m getting into the swing of things and haven’t lost a golf ball and have used that same ball for the last 96 holes I have played and now not worrying about losing balls i can now concentrate on having a better swing that isn’t taxing on my body
@@michaelgillies9075 G'day mate and nice to hear from you down under. That was a terrific achievement getting as far as you did with the cricket respect for that. The two games do seem to go together pretty well and I have always loved both since I was a kid. You just have to accept that as you get older the flexibility starts to go and I have been caught out on several occasions once when I was on a bike and turned my head too quickly resulting in an almost unbelievably painful neck injury which took about 2 weeks to recover and requiring a brace (a home made one). At the end of the day you sometimes have to sacrifice pretty for effective as many older players find but, as you have said, keeping it straight and in play is a big advantage. I was put out of action on another occasion just by putting on a pair of socks no joke and I had a hot water bottle on it for a couple of hours which was too hot and I ended up with blisters all over my lower back which apparently looked horrific so although these guys talk about rotation that can sometimes be a lot easier said than done. My back issues don't seem as severe as your troubles though tbh so wishing you all the very best in whatever sports you get involved in and especially the golf. Incidentally, when I first started playing cricket, I modelled my bowling action on Thommo with some success 🙂
@@neilpeace7734 your spot on there and unfortunately I have lost the passion to play cricket anymore and it feels like a chore to be there from 1-6pm but I’d gladly get up at 6am and spend 10hrs at the course and get there 2 hrs before my round starts so there alone is saying something
Brilliant description of how to slice. Makes it easier to understand what I’m doing wrong when it goes wrong.
Off to practice now 😁
Great lesson with very good questions. As an older woman I haven't the torque I used to so was very glad you asked about the turn.
Yes lots of people will be in the same boat! good to have an alternative
Really enjoyed the tips for less flexible players, great vid!
Now that is a great explanation . Unless I concentrate on the backswing, as you describe, I keep slicing. Thank you so much. 🥳🎉🌺🇦🇺😎
Excellent tips for the driver swing!!
Glad it was helpful!
Hannah I know I've been bugging you on Instagram to make a "Fix your slice" video, so thank you for this! You're the best!
Told you it was coming!
50 years now i have been fighting a cut. I have just learned to play it. In many cases, it is actually beneficial if you can control it.
Great tips thanks. Just wondered do the same ideas work on the irons, say a 7 iron, given that its a steeper swing path. Should i still be trying to get my hand and arms back more?
Yes!
thanks for brilliant advice on stopping a slice:) been hitting slices badly last while, even hitting a moving car near our course!!! fortunately only small dent on the roof😬😏
I completely disagree that 'slicers' don't get the club far enough back and inside - the exact opposite is most often true of slicers - I see it all the time. Your average slicer takes the club far too inside and their hands and arm are almost resting on their right shoulder - this results in the club being thrust outwards as a reaction to this stored energy in their rotated right shoulder - the resulting over-the-top, out-to-in swing path is then 100% guaranteed. If you can get slicers to do the opposite Matt Wolff-type steeper/more-verticle backswing, it immediately reduces left-to-right curvature by 50%+ on the first swing. This is also backed by factual data whereby Pros swing with a steeper shoulder tilt of 40% versus a much flatter and around shoulder plane of 20% that amateurs/slicers use. You can see this so clearly when you watch a brand new golfer try to hit the ball for the first time - they will swing the club super-flat in an extreme around their body motion. Can you learn to hit a ball from a super-deep flatter position? Obviously yes - but it takes a lot of practice to not have the body's immediate response to this stored energy position to have the club start down from the inside and to resist the body's stored shoulder energy to thrust the handle out towards the ball. The secondary effect of this too-inside flatter shoulder take-away is that the clubface will now be opening to the target line at a MUCH higher rate due to the flatter shoulder inside takeaway versus a steep upright takeaway with more pro-style shoulder tilt - this is just simple physics of the club face following the shoulder tilt (obviously yes the golfer can be overriding everything but mathematically this is true as a generalization). The too inside, too flat shoulders, too deep club, that is then trusted out as a reaction for an over-the-top delivery is basically the definition of what your average slicer does. The other issue that is happening is when a Right-hand dominant human puts their left hand on a golf club, in the brain-dominant fashion that we place our left hand on a golf club, is that the brain will now allocate resources in an attempt to tell the left hand, left arm how to hit a golf ball - and given we don't have much skill controlling our left side to do physically skillful things, the disaster is now guaranteed. I will jump to the answer of an experiment I have repeated many times - and that is if you take 10 slicers and have them remove their left hand from the club, and then have them hit an 8-iron with only their right hand, off a tee, with their right hand in the position it would naturally be on the grip, then 90% of the slicers will now draw the ball - even if they've been a slicer for 30 years - it's an immediate cure and insight into what is happening. If you can prove to a golfer that in 1 shot they can hit a draw, having been a lifetime slicer, you will get their immediate attention. The question is why, by taking the left hand off the club, will 90%+ golfers immediately draw the ball? The answer is that when a human holds a golf club with only their right hand and swings it back, they absolutely will not put their right wrist in flexion - it will naturally go into extension - just like it would do when they are throwing a ball - except these same golfers, when their left hand is also placed on the club, and their now confused brain starts to try and generate power with their left shoulder, left arm, and left wrist, will now 98% of the time force this same right wrist into flexion - which forces the club face to open. When you show people this, they simply cannot believe this is happening and frankly do not believe that their brain is overriding the body's natural right-wrist extension position, that their part of the brain controlling their right wrist knows to be correct. When people ballroom dance, someone has to lead and someone has to follow. After you show people that their uncoordinated left hand is leading their golf swing and forcing their right wrist into positions it shouldn't be in - the lightbulb goes on and their golfing life will immediately change. It is the job of the left wrist to be completely subservient to the right wrist and it, while most often initially uncomfortable, has to accept being uncomfortable, until it feels normal. A human acting in a naturally athletic manner will never, ever place their right wrist into flexion when throwing a spear, throwing a dart, throwing a ball, taking a slap shot in hockey, hitting a tennis forehand - they will never do it - yet this happens to 98% of slicers immediately when their left hand is placed on a golf club. Once they know this and can see the insanity of this, they will change and they will make the lead/left wrist bow into flexion so that their dominant power delivering right hand can be put into extension at the top of the swing.
I agree. When I started taking my backswing WAY outside, I immediately stopped slicing. If anything, the opposite issue started occurring. Oddly enough, the age old advice of backing the ball up didn’t work for me either. I started moving the ball more towards my front foot, and between those two things I never slice now. Sometimes have a bad snap hook, but that usually involves some sort of Jim or Johnnie (I am the town drunk, after all 😂😂😂)
I never slice driver or woods, only irons
"people don't have a very good perception of where straight is" .... ✋ .. 😕
Brilliant point
Great vid! Show 3 wood vs driver off the box for us bums😂
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great video but sad i didn't get to see her swing.
Oops, more golf swings next time!
Where’s the video on fixing a snap hook? LOL
I can place the request 🤣🤣
The way he talked felt really rushed..would have helped me if spent more time elaborating on the specific concepts that he was describing and focus on the details.