It’s not the best in terms of sound only in comparison to other M engines, but i’d say the performance compensates for that. The platform is still one of the best tuner/track toys for the money, and i’d say it’s the best looking in its price range too.
You pretty much nailed it with the AA suggestions. The changes made with their equal length setup give S55s the much desired “clean” sound you spoke of in your vid.
I really like the sound, especially with certain exhaust systems. But it's big problem is how it often sounds way too raspy on camera. A buddy of mine has a capristo system installed and it sounds amazing irl, but on video it sounds like a riced out civic lol
It's grown on me alot. I love my E92, and the sound is unmatched.. But the S55 is a monster and the F8x chassis is seriously delightful. I will be making the jump soon.
This was quite informative. I’ve always found the stock version way too tinny and raspy sounding without depth which was disheartening for an M4. I ended up with a B58 440i with the MPPSK exhaust instead which is less frantic, deeper sounding without being M4 screamo. Your set up with he Dinan sounds amazing though!
Yeah same, I would’ve loved an m2 comp for the s55 tuning potential but the sound really breaks it for me so i went n55, not the most tunable but love the warm sound from the m performance exhaust
This is a quality explanation. Your car sounds pretty nice, I don't mind that at all. The problem is some S55's seem to be completely straight piped and sound like a 90's civic with a really tinny sound.
The thing is, I own a 2018 F80 M3 and I use to own a 2015 M235i and the 235 sounded so much better. The S55 is much better overall, obviously but the N55 sounds amazing!
I installed the AA equal length midpipe (unresonated) and it sounds like a hyper I-6 jet turbine engine. It shed about 35lbs on my 2020 M4 Comp. After 5 exhaust shops (including a Euro-focused shop) all denied installation, I did it myself. Took the time to level and ensure it fit sweet. I almost sold the car but now have kept it going on three years. No issues!
I think the s55 sounds good, but the b58 sounds better. I have an m240i with the full Remus setup, and I’m sure I give Vietnam flashbacks when it pops and crackles.
I love it when I talk to people who see eye to eye. Although i’m confused-in one segment, he says he thinks BMWs need lots of resonators to not sound poopy, which is the opposite of what most do. But then he says he loves stock S55 sound. I’m ever searching for perfect exhaust note. Have heard it on single turbo N54s. Gonna try to find it on my B58-it’s a 3.5” downpipe tapering to the stock 3.25” piping that gets turbulence switching from round to oval pipe. Either want to go 3.5” round piping all to end with bottle resonators no muffler, or 3”
I love the throaty rumble and sheer earth-shattering loudness of that generation of m4, absolutely obnoxious and i love it. It's insane how loud it is at barely above idle while in traffic...
There is a thing called equal lenght mid pipe. it fixes the sound by making it sound more like a flat 6. If you have a base f80 yeah the sound is not very good but in a competition f80 zcp exhaust sounds alot better.
My theory is the s55 sound has nothing to do with the downpipes. Its actually the manifolds. Even with equal length downpipes, it still sounds like garbage. When you listen to the single turbo s55's, the sound is SO much better...
The reason for the "farting" is the DME doing a "micro-split-second" cut of the sparkplugs firing to enable the micro-split-second gear change without damaging the transmission! BMW was doing this back in the mid 90s as well,....for instance, my '97 M4 Sedan (Auto) did this,...but not so pronounced like contemporary turbo cars! Edit: I should note that naturally aspirated cars didn't make the 'fart',...LOL!
I was worried I was going to hate the sound coming from a V8 Mustang but I've come to really like the raspy 6 cylinder sound. It sounds so racey, especially combined with the crackle in between gears with the DCT
If you leave it in econ mode I agree sounds super soft but I personally like the sound in sport mode or sport plus. It could use a little extra bass for sure but I don't see where people who hate it are coming from.
I had an e46 m3 for 4 years and hated the sound. Ive had my F83 non-comp for almost a month and i love it. Bare with me.. In efficient mode, after the cold start, it's nearly silent. Easy to live with, comfortable to drive, not offensive to others. In Sport/Sport+ mode and the valves open it sounds like a proper sports car and, being a non-comp, has none of the obnoxious pops and bangs. It's not as loud as my e46 was, even in sport and doesn’t sound like a hornets nest is living in my midpipes. Also, gonna be controversial here. The 2JZ isn't a special sounding engine whatsoever. Using that as a template isn't really very indicative of a good sounding inline 6. Tbf, most turbos sound a bit meh. A good inline 6 NA is something like an older Jag or TVR with nearer 4L than 3L
i know this is a very weird opinion but the s55 seems like its the m version of the n54 instead of n55 they have many similar components and also have a similar exhaust note imo
@@SimplyCarThings soooo....funny story. I bought my F82 18 months ago and had it shipped from Seattle to Austin. I could see in the various pre-purchase pics and videos that it had MPE but I didn’t ask / confirm. I feared they might raise the price because it was priced low w/o the MPE. The other great surprise upon delivery was that 1/2 the car had top of the line paint protection film and full ceramic coating! The dealer had no idea! Around 8 - 9K in freebies! 😀
That sound clip with the equal length exhaust just demonstrates how bad the s55 sounds. Yeah it can sound ok on it’s own but when you compare it to other I6 sound there’s no comparison. (With the equal length exhaust the s55 sounded so good)
Do E46 M3 has the equal length header or downpipes? Inline 6 engines have two headers, and every 3 cylinders share a header, so it should have different length naturally. I agree the equal length midpipe has great sound, but I think if you have two equal length pipes that creates V6 sound not I6. I am still a little confused.
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S55 sounds worse is because it has 2 turbos interfering with the exhaust instead of one on the N55
I respect you as a presenter, and the research you've done, but it's Toretto Brian, it always has been. It's the second turbo, end of story. Evidence of this can be found it the thousands of equal-length DP's with every configuration of exhaust you can imagine that are unsuccessful at fixing the sound. Unsuccessful. Period. The only way to combat the sound is to remove a turbo, and it's a non-negotiable position. BMW themselves can't fix the issue because it literally can't be fixed with 2 turbo's attached to the car. Mitigating it to a 30-45% more pleasing tone with the ELM's is a great idea IMO, but it can never make it sound as good as a base N55 to most ears. It's unfortunate, it's why I chose the OG M2 over the Comp, but the chassis is just fine with 450/490, so all is well.
Sounds great! 18 months ago I bought a 2017 stock GT86, and I was not impressed with sound. But now I have to drive it everyday just to hear the 4500rpm+ boxer sound. You have to give it time because as my man says sound is subjective!
This is one of the main reasons I couldn't ditch my E93 and get a new M4, other than the plasticky feel of the interior and weird steering. The sound is extremely important to me and I think for a lot of people as well. That M4 sound is embarassing.
There's a lot that can be attributed to the difference in sound. But even a stock supra with its twin turbo setup doesn't have the cleanest I6 exhaust sound. Most people switch over to a large diameter titanium, single exit exhaust that essentially has no bends in it to get the clean, smooth tone.
Cool vid man! Just for anyone's benefit in the comments - an EL S55 does not sound exactly like an N55. The "raspy" and "sharp" qualities of the S55 are still present, just the exhaust tone has changed and is much more balanced and pleasing. It sounds like an inline 6 should now, but still maintains the S55 character. I've owned both, and I actually like the EL S55 better due to these character traits - has more exotic qualities.
As a M2C driver in Europe I like the sound of the S55 and would like to drive equal length midpipes, but that’s not allowed here. OPF makes it hard to get any sound out of those cars and they legally can’t be louder than stock. I have an Akrapovic muffler with a mod to the midpipe and it has some racing sounds to it, even if there are better sounding cars out there.
Also I heard from an engineer it has to do with the firing order aswell. Its sounds aggressive but not pretty its the audible equivalent to a huge female body builder
When i had my b58 i used to think the s55 sounded bad. However, i now have an m2c and i love the sound of the s55, i think they sound bad if you just straight pipe them but like the video says, if you equal length or single mid pipe them they’re re much better!
Whoever thinks that it sounds like a weedwacker, well i would love a weedwacker that sounds like that! Come on, that M4 sounds just the way it looks, beautiful!
Commenting prior to watching the full video, but s55 doesn’t sound bad if you go catless down pipe and the main thing that completely changes the tone is a catless 3.5” mid pipe. The mid pipe takes away the rasp and gives it a much better deep tone.
Yep, the S55 sounds like crap. It's the fault of the twin turbo design. It's basically two 3 cylinders motors at the exhaust end. There's not much you can do about it unless you go big turbo. I drive a 2018 M2 it's no contest in the sound department.
I'm in the market for a F8x, getting frustrated that couldn't find any cars in my price point because how they sky rocketed in the past months. I really want to make track build after I got the car, do you think it's a good idea to find a car that has 30k or more mileage? (which is in my price point) Is the chassis good enough for track purpose with higher miles?
Excellent explanation, very interesting stuff, I had not heard this explanation before. I suppose the new S58 might suffer from the same issue as it has also the twin-turbo set-up? I didn't hear many M4 S58 videos yet, I guess early next year when the deliveries are starting.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 Good suggestion. X3M sounds smoother, way less raspy as the S55. But lacking character, it seems that the OPF filters have sucked the living daylights out of it.... aaaaargh...
Ats v and ct4 v sound way better than any s55. I’m a bmw purist but the s55 no matter how you slice it sounds not so pleasant. Boxer engine sounds amazing with unequal length systems . The s55 when single turboed sounds amazing though. Even with equal length pipes it sounds a bit better but that tin and rasp sound still exist esp on DCT models.
Hey I know you had an M235i in the past, I recently got an M240i and I was wondering if you knew any affordable exhaust options that sound better or a way to make it louder . I would really appreciate it. I’m in high school and don’t want to drop a ton of money on it, but if you have anything that could help me that would be great!
I actually think the single mid pipe sounds better then the equal length, I really like how my exhaust sounds with the single I’m hoping I don’t ruin it with the arm resonated down pipes
It sounds good in standard trim, and sound better with an EL setup (have an EL on my S55 M2comp). I have massive resonators in the EL setup and still sometimes it's trumpetlike raspy. It is just the nature of the engine setup / OEM tune I am afraid. Mounting an EL setup (and removing your OPF's) immediately bumps your top-end power bij 10-12ish hp, which was a surprise......
anyone else seen that video where they compared the F8x to a honda? both stock for stock and a nasty honda with a big as fart can out the back up against a Akrapovic exhaust and they sound almost identical.
Im struggling to decide I have the option to get a f82 but I wont be able to do a crankhub fix, and I drive pretty damm hard, I would probably do a gts tune just for the burbles. Or I have the option to get a m2 with the n55 which I would be able to do pretty much anything too. Any opinions?
Haha I’ve always wished my F80 sounded more like an N54 car. I don’t want more volume so maybe the AA resonated equal length midpipe is the way to go along with my otherwise stock non ZCP exhaust system.
@@daltoncope6537 singles do help but i personally think the 1jz and 2jz sound good w twins. single exit makes all bimmers(straight 6) sound better imo.
The tough part was that it followed the S65 V-8, as that car sounded like a German Ferrari at high rpm
Yea absolutely, the soundtrack is incredible
if anything is sounded more like an American muscle car. the old merc 6.2 sounded the nastiest.
I personally love the sound of my E63 M6 lmfao No future cars from BMW will ever compare to it.
It’s not the best in terms of sound only in comparison to other M engines, but i’d say the performance compensates for that. The platform is still one of the best tuner/track toys for the money, and i’d say it’s the best looking in its price range too.
Couldn't agree more with you, I still love the sound !
👍
M4 with single turbo sounds 10x better. in my opinion .
I honestly love the sound!
100% me too! 👌🏼
Yuck
You fellas are ageing...
sound of speakers? ))
Main Reason Y I bought mine. S55 sounds crazy in person but superrr shit on cam.
You pretty much nailed it with the AA suggestions. The changes made with their equal length setup give S55s the much desired “clean” sound you spoke of in your vid.
I really like the sound, especially with certain exhaust systems. But it's big problem is how it often sounds way too raspy on camera. A buddy of mine has a capristo system installed and it sounds amazing irl, but on video it sounds like a riced out civic lol
It's grown on me alot. I love my E92, and the sound is unmatched.. But the S55 is a monster and the F8x chassis is seriously delightful. I will be making the jump soon.
Exactly, best chassis in a recent M car.
Finally somebody who noticed that mooooing noise coming out of the M4
This was quite informative. I’ve always found the stock version way too tinny and raspy sounding without depth which was disheartening for an M4.
I ended up with a B58 440i with the MPPSK exhaust instead which is less frantic, deeper sounding without being M4 screamo. Your set up with he Dinan sounds amazing though!
I love the aggressive ROAR and sounds that this car makes..It's a beast
me too!
Tbh this was a key factor in why I got an n55 over an s55.
Yeah same, I would’ve loved an m2 comp for the s55 tuning potential but the sound really breaks it for me so i went n55, not the most tunable but love the warm sound from the m performance exhaust
I would get a M2 over the comp for that reason too, power isn’t everything
@@rambow70 y'all trippin get gapped by my s55 just get equal length exhaust or mpe
N55 M2 with the MPE is truly a golden combo. I love the S55 but you can't go wrong with that route
@@rambow70 That's like saying you would rather the gt mustang over the GT500 because of the exhaust note.
Active autowerkes equal length midpipe sound awesome especially on M2C
Yes they do, I want one for my car :D
Awesome? No. Better? Yes. Still sounds bad
I have an intake tune and AA exhaust. Sounds way better.
I currently have a 2018 M3 Comp. While I love the power, I miss the beautiful sound of my old 340i so much.
get some Akrapovic :)
holy shit the equal length mid pipes makes a HUGE difference
@Chris something about single turbo engines bothers me, maybe the lack of symmetry and the fact that “twin turbo” and “bi turbo” just sounds cooler
@Chris that’s kinda odd, maybe your exhaust setup?
I personally think the car sound fine
me too tbh
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I love the way my M4 sounds it gives you a Motorsport feeling
Yea it really does, I agree!
This is a quality explanation. Your car sounds pretty nice, I don't mind that at all. The problem is some S55's seem to be completely straight piped and sound like a 90's civic with a really tinny sound.
The thing is, I own a 2018 F80 M3 and I use to own a 2015 M235i and the 235 sounded so much better. The S55 is much better overall, obviously but the N55 sounds amazing!
N55 sound is truly amazing
Still an amazingly powerful engine and awesome body.
Absolutely!
All I hate is the “fart” sound when the dct changes gears. But my solution is single top mount turbo swap, with a whole single downpine and midpipe.
I used to not like it but it’s definitely grown on me ! It’s true an exaust + catless dps can completely change it !
Yes, absolutely! DP's with a proper exhaust sound killer
Wouldnt be a s55 without the rasp, but n55 definitely gives that inline 6 turbo jdm vibe
For sure !
B58 u mean
@@bman1668 n55
@@2w0nGranTurismo b58 is better
@@bman1668 performance and reliability wise yes. Sound wise it’s N55 all day
I installed the AA equal length midpipe (unresonated) and it sounds like a hyper I-6 jet turbine engine. It shed about 35lbs on my 2020 M4 Comp.
After 5 exhaust shops (including a Euro-focused shop) all denied installation, I did it myself. Took the time to level and ensure it fit sweet. I almost sold the car but now have kept it going on three years. No issues!
its annoying when people say it sounds bad it sounds fucking amazing in person!!
facts!
Finally someone did a video on this. Worst sounding straight 6 in the history of car manufacturers... never understand it
Been saying this for years, n55 sounds great not sure what happened.
I thought I was crazy being the only one in my city thinking that this engine sounds like trash...
I think the s55 sounds good, but the b58 sounds better. I have an m240i with the full Remus setup, and I’m sure I give Vietnam flashbacks when it pops and crackles.
I love it when I talk to people who see eye to eye. Although i’m confused-in one segment, he says he thinks BMWs need lots of resonators to not sound poopy, which is the opposite of what most do. But then he says he loves stock S55 sound.
I’m ever searching for perfect exhaust note. Have heard it on single turbo N54s. Gonna try to find it on my B58-it’s a 3.5” downpipe tapering to the stock 3.25” piping that gets turbulence switching from round to oval pipe. Either want to go 3.5” round piping all to end with bottle resonators no muffler, or 3”
Freaking F8x cars are INSANE! I’m picking up a upgraded turbo M4 this week and can’t get over the badass sounds it makes.
I love the throaty rumble and sheer earth-shattering loudness of that generation of m4, absolutely obnoxious and i love it. It's insane how loud it is at barely above idle while in traffic...
They sound wicked!
I have the full signature active autowerke exhaust + downpipes and I can say that this helped a lot the sound of this car!
I bet! My friend has that same setup and it sounds great in person!
@@SimplyCarThings yeah!
the crispy sound makes me smile every single time, i love the s55 sound
me too bro, its great!
AA mid pipes cures everything, the single or the equal length sound amazing
Most definitely
@@SimplyCarThings the single 3.5 inch mid pipe from AA
There is a thing called equal lenght mid pipe. it fixes the sound by making it sound more like a flat 6. If you have a base f80 yeah the sound is not very good but in a competition f80 zcp exhaust sounds alot better.
My theory is the s55 sound has nothing to do with the downpipes. Its actually the manifolds. Even with equal length downpipes, it still sounds like garbage. When you listen to the single turbo s55's, the sound is SO much better...
The n54 is also twin turbo and has two separate down pipes I wonder why that sounds better in my opinion???
I feel like they sound similar tbh
@@Daniel-uw1wt Yea I think they sound kinda similar as well
I love the way your car sounds. The s55 sounds a lot like the e46
Thank you bro, yes i completely agree. Reminds me a lot of the S54 engine note
The reason for the "farting" is the DME doing a "micro-split-second" cut of the sparkplugs firing to enable the micro-split-second gear change without damaging the transmission! BMW was doing this back in the mid 90s as well,....for instance, my '97 M4 Sedan (Auto) did this,...but not so pronounced like contemporary turbo cars!
Edit: I should note that naturally aspirated cars didn't make the 'fart',...LOL!
ohhh! Thanks for explaining that, I always wondered what was going on behind the cause of that sound.
My S65 and S62 sound way better, the S54 is better too. The S55 is lawmower on crack.
I think the S55 sounds pretty similar to the S54 if im being honest. Of course the N/A V8's will always sound better haha
@@SimplyCarThings Completely agree☝🏼
Well the s62 and s65 are V8s...
I was worried I was going to hate the sound coming from a V8 Mustang but I've come to really like the raspy 6 cylinder sound. It sounds so racey, especially combined with the crackle in between gears with the DCT
If you leave it in econ mode I agree sounds super soft but I personally like the sound in sport mode or sport plus. It could use a little extra bass for sure but I don't see where people who hate it are coming from.
I had an e46 m3 for 4 years and hated the sound.
Ive had my F83 non-comp for almost a month and i love it.
Bare with me..
In efficient mode, after the cold start, it's nearly silent. Easy to live with, comfortable to drive, not offensive to others.
In Sport/Sport+ mode and the valves open it sounds like a proper sports car and, being a non-comp, has none of the obnoxious pops and bangs.
It's not as loud as my e46 was, even in sport and doesn’t sound like a hornets nest is living in my midpipes.
Also, gonna be controversial here. The 2JZ isn't a special sounding engine whatsoever. Using that as a template isn't really very indicative of a good sounding inline 6.
Tbf, most turbos sound a bit meh. A good inline 6 NA is something like an older Jag or TVR with nearer 4L than 3L
i know this is a very weird opinion but the s55 seems like its the m version of the n54 instead of n55 they have many similar components and also have a similar exhaust note imo
I think people who doesn't like BMW's hearing different sounds lol.
Great vid as always! Personally, I really like the sound of the MPE exhaust on my F82 Comp. 👍.
I am such a fan of the MPE, i’m so jealous 😂 It’s my favorite exhaust for these cars
@@SimplyCarThings soooo....funny story. I bought my F82 18 months ago and had it shipped from Seattle to Austin. I could see in the various pre-purchase pics and videos that it had MPE but I didn’t ask / confirm. I feared they might raise the price because it was priced low w/o the MPE. The other great surprise upon delivery was that 1/2 the car had top of the line paint protection film and full ceramic coating! The dealer had no idea! Around 8 - 9K in freebies! 😀
That sound clip with the equal length exhaust just demonstrates how bad the s55 sounds. Yeah it can sound ok on it’s own but when you compare it to other I6 sound there’s no comparison. (With the equal length exhaust the s55 sounded so good)
Bmw has totally lost it.
So would getting the equal length mid pipe get rid of it?
Yes
Check out valvetronic eq length exhaust
Do E46 M3 has the equal length header or downpipes? Inline 6 engines have two headers, and every 3 cylinders share a header, so it should have different length naturally. I agree the equal length midpipe has great sound, but I think if you have two equal length pipes that creates V6 sound not I6. I am still a little confused.
S55 sounds worse is because it has 2 turbos interfering with the exhaust instead of one on the N55
I respect you as a presenter, and the research you've done, but it's Toretto Brian, it always has been. It's the second turbo, end of story. Evidence of this can be found it the thousands of equal-length DP's with every configuration of exhaust you can imagine that are unsuccessful at fixing the sound. Unsuccessful. Period. The only way to combat the sound is to remove a turbo, and it's a non-negotiable position. BMW themselves can't fix the issue because it literally can't be fixed with 2 turbo's attached to the car. Mitigating it to a 30-45% more pleasing tone with the ELM's is a great idea IMO, but it can never make it sound as good as a base N55 to most ears. It's unfortunate, it's why I chose the OG M2 over the Comp, but the chassis is just fine with 450/490, so all is well.
Sounds great! 18 months ago I bought a 2017 stock GT86, and I was not impressed with sound. But now I have to drive it everyday just to hear the 4500rpm+ boxer sound. You have to give it time because as my man says sound is subjective!
Yes sound is subjective. However the vast majority, including die hard BMW fans, conclude the S55 sounds like a turd.
Love your content man! Nicely explained!
thank you very much!
s55 sounds insane nice
This is one of the main reasons I couldn't ditch my E93 and get a new M4, other than the plasticky feel of the interior and weird steering. The sound is extremely important to me and I think for a lot of people as well. That M4 sound is embarassing.
I love the sound
Easy fix. downpipes and an el midpipe with stock muffler= great sound. downpipes with single midpipe and aftermarket muffler like dinan= great sound
I mean 2JZ and RBs are also unequal length downpipe stock lol and if you hear them catless they sound amazing
There's a lot that can be attributed to the difference in sound. But even a stock supra with its twin turbo setup doesn't have the cleanest I6 exhaust sound. Most people switch over to a large diameter titanium, single exit exhaust that essentially has no bends in it to get the clean, smooth tone.
Cool vid man! Just for anyone's benefit in the comments - an EL S55 does not sound exactly like an N55. The "raspy" and "sharp" qualities of the S55 are still present, just the exhaust tone has changed and is much more balanced and pleasing. It sounds like an inline 6 should now, but still maintains the S55 character. I've owned both, and I actually like the EL S55 better due to these character traits - has more exotic qualities.
It honestly sounds amazing if you have the competition pack. I love mine
Or if you have the M PERFORMANCE EXHAUST. If people would stop trying to compare it with a V-8, maybe they could come to actual like it.
totally! Ive got the Dinan setup on mine and I love the growl it has, really nice!
As a M2C driver in Europe I like the sound of the S55 and would like to drive equal length midpipes, but that’s not allowed here. OPF makes it hard to get any sound out of those cars and they legally can’t be louder than stock.
I have an Akrapovic muffler with a mod to the midpipe and it has some racing sounds to it, even if there are better sounding cars out there.
I always liked the way my old s55 sounded when I'd partially gun it and abruptly let off. I think that shit sounded tough!
Facts! I love that sound too, it’s mean as hell
I love the sound of the stock exhaust F80/82 👌, even its cold start is just music to my ears ! With an Akra catback system even betta man 😎
Also I heard from an engineer it has to do with the firing order aswell. Its sounds aggressive but not pretty its the audible equivalent to a huge female body builder
That’s honestly a great comparison
I love the way it sounds, it’s an iconic BMW sounds, definitely more intense and vocal, but more subdued late 90s 5 series were similar in sound
Clicked on this video like wtf 😂😂
RB26DETT is a straight 6 and has unequal length downpipes and sounds amazing so there's more to it, probably valve angle?
I personally like the DCT farts lol
Me too lmao different ppl different taste
I guess Ill never understand yall lol
@@youtubemanswagroy212 it does sound good lol
@@chongxina237 eehh i heard the farts in person not my cup of tea kinda messes up the driving experience it would drive me nuts as a daily driver
@@youtubemanswagroy212 yea i know for you maybe it not your taste but try search about single turbo m4 they sound good
what's the exhaust setup in the intro clip?
“Laughs in s65”
S63tu sounds better😉
When i had my b58 i used to think the s55 sounded bad. However, i now have an m2c and i love the sound of the s55, i think they sound bad if you just straight pipe them but like the video says, if you equal length or single mid pipe them they’re re much better!
Whoever thinks that it sounds like a weedwacker, well i would love a weedwacker that sounds like that! Come on, that M4 sounds just the way it looks, beautiful!
Commenting prior to watching the full video, but s55 doesn’t sound bad if you go catless down pipe and the main thing that completely changes the tone is a catless 3.5” mid pipe. The mid pipe takes away the rasp and gives it a much better deep tone.
Great video! I always wondered why the M2 sounded so much better than the M3 even tho the M3 is the top dog.
Yep, the S55 sounds like crap. It's the fault of the twin turbo design. It's basically two 3 cylinders motors at the exhaust end. There's not much you can do about it unless you go big turbo. I drive a 2018 M2 it's no contest in the sound department.
Excellent video.
I'm in the market for a F8x, getting frustrated that couldn't find any cars in my price point because how they sky rocketed in the past months. I really want to make track build after I got the car, do you think it's a good idea to find a car that has 30k or more mileage? (which is in my price point) Is the chassis good enough for track purpose with higher miles?
Excellent explanation, very interesting stuff, I had not heard this explanation before. I suppose the new S58 might suffer from the same issue as it has also the twin-turbo set-up? I didn't hear many M4 S58 videos yet, I guess early next year when the deliveries are starting.
Just listen to new BMW X3/X4 with the S58 instead.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 Good suggestion. X3M sounds smoother, way less raspy as the S55. But lacking character, it seems that the OPF filters have sucked the living daylights out of it.... aaaaargh...
Ats v and ct4 v sound way better than any s55. I’m a bmw purist but the s55 no matter how you slice it sounds not so pleasant. Boxer engine sounds amazing with unequal length systems . The s55 when single turboed sounds amazing though. Even with equal length pipes it sounds a bit better but that tin and rasp sound still exist esp on DCT models.
The sound of the M4 was a huge drawback for me. Now that I know this, I’m considering it again
I figured it is for many people. Glad to hear you're reconsidering
The M2 sounds better imo
What do you suggest? At the moment i have stock DP, akrapovic resonated dual middle pipe and akrapovic slip on?
Thank you
Sounds beautiful to me.
I love the way it sounds. I love my n55 f30
So this isn't the case with the N54's exhaust setup? Because that's twin turbo as well, not twin scroll like N55 or B58.
Hey I know you had an M235i in the past, I recently got an M240i and I was wondering if you knew any affordable exhaust options that sound better or a way to make it louder . I would really appreciate it. I’m in high school and don’t want to drop a ton of money on it, but if you have anything that could help me that would be great!
I actually think the single mid pipe sounds better then the equal length, I really like how my exhaust sounds with the single I’m hoping I don’t ruin it with the arm resonated down pipes
It sounds good in standard trim, and sound better with an EL setup (have an EL on my S55 M2comp). I have massive resonators in the EL setup and still sometimes it's trumpetlike raspy. It is just the nature of the engine setup / OEM tune I am afraid. Mounting an EL setup (and removing your OPF's) immediately bumps your top-end power bij 10-12ish hp, which was a surprise......
anyone else seen that video where they compared the F8x to a honda? both stock for stock and a nasty honda with a big as fart can out the back up against a Akrapovic exhaust and they sound almost identical.
They sound unique lol
Im struggling to decide I have the option to get a f82 but I wont be able to do a crankhub fix, and I drive pretty damm hard, I would probably do a gts tune just for the burbles. Or I have the option to get a m2 with the n55 which I would be able to do pretty much anything too. Any opinions?
The. Best sound ever!💪🏼
n54 is also twin turbo and it sounds great
Sounds great *when single turbo*
The equal length exhaust is only only half the fix, the turbo headers are still unequal
the sound has grown on me, leaves a lot to be desired compared to the e92 m3 but it reminds me of the e46 sound
I definitely get a lot of E46 vibes from the exhaust
Still sounds way better than any 4 cylinder turbo.
It sounds great bruh 💪 🔥
How does the Arkpovic exhaust sound?
With the m performance exhaust it sounds killer
Does the S58 also make use of unequal length downpipes ?
Haha I’ve always wished my F80 sounded more like an N54 car. I don’t want more volume so maybe the AA resonated equal length midpipe is the way to go along with my otherwise stock non ZCP exhaust system.
Would an I6 benefit from an x pipe set up?
Honestly the s55 sounds like old n/a inline 6. Like old 240/60/80z’s
Not when its muffled by turbos, but without the turbos it would sound like an e46
i blame dual and quad exit. single exit sounds much more natural straight 6
Blame twins vs single. Listen to an RB26 or a 2JZ with twins and then listen to them with singles.
@@daltoncope6537 singles do help but i personally think the 1jz and 2jz sound good w twins. single exit makes all bimmers(straight 6) sound better imo.