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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2022
  • I was due to go and change the hose on the turbine due to the poor quality of it. One day before I was planning to go and change it I got an email from the customer showing that it had failed. I already had the hose ready to go so the next day I went to fix it. This is just a quick video showing the hose change and getting the turbine back up and running.

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  • @YHBW1001
    @YHBW1001 Год назад +851

    I’d be more likely to hire you after this anyway.
    The fact you flagged the problem, fixed it and showed the whole story on RUclips shows something that money simply cannot buy…..integrity, honesty and transparency.
    If only more businesses (and politicians) acted this way we wouldn’t be in such a mess.
    Keep up the good work Kris,an inspiration to all.

    • @lint2023
      @lint2023 Год назад +10

      I agree, Mark.

    • @thewanderingfool4435
      @thewanderingfool4435 Год назад +6

      100% agree with your comment.

    • @chrisray1567
      @chrisray1567 Год назад +5

      Yup, totally agree.

    • @davedawson9851
      @davedawson9851 Год назад +8

      Absolutely. I live in N Wales and if I needed a system like this Kris would be my first choice. He's on it. Dave

    • @MakeAllThingsBeautiful
      @MakeAllThingsBeautiful Год назад +8

      this customer has 1000's of us mortals willing on his hydro electricity supply we also appreciate some of the wonderful engineering and innovations to make it work and could well help on the path to the ultimate utopian efficient hydro system(s), i love all this, watched Kris's videos back to the beginning, it's a beautiful natural progression in a world that is in many respects going backwards

  • @saophaixoan7861
    @saophaixoan7861 Год назад +552

    It's great! My shed has been completed and it turned out nice looking and sturdy and it is way better than the sheds that many of my neighbors had put up. Of course, I'm pleased with the outcome and this Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxGZedDTcDfgD7fG_uU4esfx_EgxzlY2_1 Plans was extremely useful to me as a guide.

  • @mattsan70
    @mattsan70 Год назад +392

    Customer service is EVERYTHING - things do and will go wrong from time to time - how they are addressed is the real deal. well done Kris for your actions.

    • @DiHandley
      @DiHandley Год назад +7

      Absolutely 100%!

    • @VinceW187
      @VinceW187 Год назад +3

      Agreed great service is the reason people come back and you build a good reputation

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 Год назад +2

      He also said beforehand that the pipe was a bit suspect and needed to be changed. That is much better than "keeping quiet and hoping for the best".

    • @I_Crit_My_Pants
      @I_Crit_My_Pants Год назад +1

      But none of this would be necessary if he hadn't bodged it to begin with? Typical contractor tbf, tries to squeeze by at the minimum and HOPEFULLY not face the repercussions later... Just cause someone admits fault AFTERWARDS doesn't change that they half arsed it to begin with... There are many other examples of how that kind of logic just doesn't fly.

    • @I_Crit_My_Pants
      @I_Crit_My_Pants Год назад +1

      @@Muck006 No, he literally kept quiet and hoped for the best, otherwise he would've fixed the pipe before...

  • @lancedaniels
    @lancedaniels Год назад +143

    “Unfortunately that’s all I’ve got for ya…” 😆 Who else besides me LOVED this episode? Thanks for posting and sharing Kris.

    • @RitzyCigs
      @RitzyCigs Год назад +9

      We love everything Kris does! 😂

    • @loudarwell582
      @loudarwell582 Год назад

      You come across as good guy

  • @youkay11
    @youkay11 Год назад +66

    kris, watched you since the beginning mate, try not to get into the weeds justifying your work, or dealing with youtube warriors. You're an absolute legend, your work speaks for itself, I bet 99% of the people that give you grief through the comments can't do half of what you can do, to the degree you do it. Keep pumping out the amazing content, your finished products speak for themselves and theres been so many of them through the years, things are always gonna break or not work perfect first time. as everyone above me has already mentioned, we'd hire you in a heartbeat even before this level of honesty and justification!

  • @JaredEagles
    @JaredEagles Год назад +23

    the first hose , you were able to tear apart, the second one fought back! Ouch.
    Mate imagine if all hydro companies were this transparent and honest. LOVE this series.

  • @CalvinCycle
    @CalvinCycle Год назад +124

    You can take solice in the fact you'd flagged it to the client and on the video. I agree that it looks like you've been sold something that the manufacturer has scrimped on, not your fault at all. Hope your thumb is on the mend. Kudos for showing even when things don't always go as planned (even though you'd predicted it).

  • @duncanfrere2656
    @duncanfrere2656 Год назад +41

    The new hose looks properly stout!
    The whole system is so beautifully designed and constructed from top to bottom!
    From the weir and input gates, the way the pipe was attached to rocks with those custom-made brackets to the truly beautiful pegged-beam power house construction.
    The genius of the bespoke spoons and the way they attached to the generator in that custom-built stainless steel housing is really very impressive!
    So is that single-nozzle design! The whole terminal end of the pipe run in the power house is elegant and so beautifully thought out.
    It's built for a lifetime of use! It was great viewing watching it come together.
    Thanks for your channel.

    • @timjames2654
      @timjames2654 Год назад +3

      What Duncan said (way better than I could have said it)

    • @jshaw4757
      @jshaw4757 Год назад +2

      ​@@timjames2654 Yh what Duncan said 👍 in fact I think we should just leave all further comments too Duncan be honest...

  • @morpheusrelaxation4562
    @morpheusrelaxation4562 Год назад +137

    The work you do is of the highest quality, you flagged the potential problem.and dealt with it in a very speedy and professional manner, I doubt for one minute that this would impact your hydro business and you didn't have to show the video in the first place, your transparency and honesty are what makes me/people enjoy your channel even more, keep up the great work and look forward to seeing even more of your build projects.

    • @TheMrCheezlezombie
      @TheMrCheezlezombie Год назад +2

      He flagged the problem and waited for it to break. Could have ruined the whole job site.

    • @richardclifton4120
      @richardclifton4120 Год назад

      @@TheMrCheezlezombie Have you got "ANYTHING" you can show us that you have done? Let us pick apart something that perhaps you have done.
      You didn't listen to him did you? Just came to the conclusion that he was unprofessional and could care less about what he does. There are two negative comments from you so far, and hopefully, no more will appear. There are a lot of folks who like what he does. You don't, so leave!
      I like the way he has the spirit to take on challenges and gets the job completed. I have watched him since I found the channel and idiots like you can go fall in a hole. You on the other hand are probably a couch potato that couldn't tie his own shoes without help.
      Just so you know, and in case you didn't catch it, Kris does have to rely on other manufacturers' quality, and although he makes a few things himself, those parts have not failed. The customer was told about the pipe and decided he wanted it turned on immediately and he understood that a repair to a better product was forthcoming.
      Have a nice day and go somewhere you are respected because it isn't here!

    • @I_Crit_My_Pants
      @I_Crit_My_Pants Год назад +1

      "Highest quality" yet he left something he was concerned about which caused this entire problem later... Half arsing the job in the first place caused this entire issue? What?

    • @I_Crit_My_Pants
      @I_Crit_My_Pants Год назад

      @@TheMrCheezlezombie Exactly, glad everyone down here isn't a mindless fkn sheep, thank you.

  • @annwade1988
    @annwade1988 Год назад +12

    Never would I have imagined this would be so facinating. I swear if Kris explained the technical process of watching paint dry, I'd be riveted to that too! From buildings to cider to solar to garden beds to farm animals to metal working to hydro to vehicle maintance to that harp... wow.

  • @nate_river_
    @nate_river_ Год назад +23

    At least you called it and was ready with the replacement before it happened.

    • @radleysmith7528
      @radleysmith7528 Год назад +1

      NASA have....you called it, thank god no astoanaughts were trapped in that valley pod

  • @SisterWomen
    @SisterWomen Год назад +12

    My first thought was "That looks dangerous" and my second thought was, "But this is Kris. I'm sure he would never let that happen." I am so amazed and inspired when I reflect on all Kris has done with this channel and his homestead.

  • @thaDjMauz
    @thaDjMauz Год назад +71

    I'm very thankful that kris shows these things too. It is strangely inspiring to see the full picture including the problems. I feel that some of these channels are selling fairytales whereas I'm actually bolstered by the fact that kris shows that when things go wrong, you just solve them. Thanks a lot for the inspiration and honesty kris!

    • @TheMrCheezlezombie
      @TheMrCheezlezombie Год назад

      There was no honestly. He was dishonest by installing a part he KNEW was bad. That's a complete lack of integrity.

    • @EstCry
      @EstCry Год назад +6

      @@TheMrCheezlezombie He was honest with the customer about the problem, and customer made the decision to go through with the installation of a possibly faulty hose. If there is someone dishonest, it's the manufacturer of that hose, who sold it with characteristics that did not match the performance.

    • @trigonx1
      @trigonx1 Год назад +3

      @@TheMrCheezlezombie The customer wanted the system running as soon as possible and was warned about the low quality part. Kris already ordered the better quality part and set up a date to replace the low quality part with the customer so the customer could still generate power in the meantime while being aware of the issue.

  • @nidhavellir
    @nidhavellir Год назад +19

    Sounds like you've had your fill of internet commentators. Well done on having the facts and knowing your craft.

  • @bwilliams824
    @bwilliams824 Год назад +2

    Wow. Ive been in the HVAC industry for the past 30 years, 20 of which in the commercial. So refreshing to see somone so professional and committed to getting it right. Thanks for your informative and addictive channel. Never to old to be taught!

  • @cadalot58
    @cadalot58 Год назад +15

    Yet another cracking video that show what a perfectionist you are, and what good customer support you are giving. Just a reminder that you still need that drip tray at the top at the bottom of the inlet grill to shoot the water over the connection of the pipe to the collection tank.

  • @MT-gv8ns
    @MT-gv8ns Год назад +16

    If I remember right, hose manufactures will list the max pressure including a statement that it only applies to straight sections and may or may not include max allowable pressures in various bend radius. Turbulent flow also reduces the max allowable pressures although I would expect laminar flow in this system at the bend. Well done!

    • @TurkeySandwichJr
      @TurkeySandwichJr Год назад +1

      I had the same thought - that first pipe wasn't intended for a bend radius that extreme. The hose that replaced it is obviously more tightly reinforced.
      In regards to the electrical explanation at the end - I'm really not satisfied by that. Even if the conductor is less resistive, electricity takes all paths and this is a relatively high voltage 3 phase system. I think the water should have a shut off that is external to the building, for exactly the failure that was observed.

    • @MT-gv8ns
      @MT-gv8ns Год назад

      @@TurkeySandwichJr I thought about this some more: the corrugated tubing would likely cause turbulent flow with maximum effect, including low pressure bubbles and cavitation, at the outside of the bend radium; where we would expect the failure to occur.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Год назад

      @@MT-gv8ns It is onlt corrugated on the outside?

  • @kennethgibbons366
    @kennethgibbons366 Год назад +7

    Thanks for posting Kris. I am sorry that you still get "experts" telling you what you should have done! In all the time I have watched your work I have continued to be impressed with your skills, honesty, and openness. Well done keep up the work I always look forward to your postings!

  • @markash15
    @markash15 Год назад +3

    What I think is the most endearing part of this video is that you didn't hide it. It went wrong, (you knew it would!) but still showed everyone what can go wrong and why and most importantly when it does, customer service is top priority.
    Great work Kris, keep the content coming.

  • @leahferr3138
    @leahferr3138 Год назад +10

    When your not happy with something, we can count on you to change it!

  • @troyboy4345
    @troyboy4345 Год назад +3

    "Your best teacher is your last mistake" .... but you didn't make a mistake, yet you still learn/adapt .... top job and nice summary at the end matey !

  • @daitokuji8327
    @daitokuji8327 Год назад +2

    Kris don't feel like you have to justify yourself to the Internet mate. 2yr warranty and a early morning callout to fix a faulty part is top service. sometimes things just fail. You continue to do a solid job for your clients and are inspirational and educational to us voyeurs of the Web. thank you.

  • @xXGENDAMAGEXx
    @xXGENDAMAGEXx Год назад

    It’s just cracking me up listening to all your explanations about what happened. I don’t know why anyone would question you at this point. Your Brilliant!!!!

  • @jasonpine7161
    @jasonpine7161 Год назад +4

    Really appreciate your honesty about the problem. The green pipe always looked cheap. The black one looks great. Overall, very professional. Thank Kris.

  • @andrewgiles6192
    @andrewgiles6192 Год назад +25

    When you order high pressure hose and they supply a McDonald's paper straw 🤣 glad you got sorted 🙂

    • @jshaw4757
      @jshaw4757 Год назад

      Think a maccy D straw would done a better job lol..

    • @conradhaigh2500
      @conradhaigh2500 5 месяцев назад

      That is the best comment ever😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @curtdunlap6818
    @curtdunlap6818 Год назад +7

    You should have installed a port for a hose bib on the "reduction flange" so you could spray down any mud in the shed at any time or water the flowers around the building! 😄 I enjoyed the entire series and very impressed with the skill sets and all of the "toys" you have. Thanks for sharing!

  • @philpatrick4519
    @philpatrick4519 Год назад +4

    I can’t say this enough, I’m truly learning a mountain of info from this channel, and enjoying every bit of it. Thanks Kris

  • @TRC00020
    @TRC00020 Год назад +6

    Dude , you are living a really great life and are actually making a great contribution with your business, - will say you shouldn't worry about addressing your critics

  • @daipower1
    @daipower1 Год назад +10

    Nice work mate, problems always happen, making sure they are sorted quickly and properly is the key which you have done. You seem a good guy to do business with.

  • @darwinsfish
    @darwinsfish Год назад

    Only just discovered Kris’s channel and over the moon that I’ve hours of fascinating viewing ahead. Amazed at the precision and attention to detail. I’ve worked in education and academia and have always been fully aware that there’s a kind of intellectual snobbery regarding those that make their living using practical skills. In my mind, the construction worker with their visual-spatial awareness, measuring and calculation skills, knowledge of regulations and technical specifications, adaptability and problem solving, use of multiple tools, pricing estimations, customer service skills, engineering understanding physical laws and much much more often trumps the university student memorising second hand knowledge to pass an English exam.

  • @jasonbrooks4996
    @jasonbrooks4996 Год назад +1

    Thank you for sharing both your wins AND fails. It's nice to also show how to fix potential issues and how to overcome adversity.

  • @miked1292
    @miked1292 Год назад +3

    Thank you for the update video! Love catching up with you and seeing how you are doing. Glad all is well and look forward to more!

  • @daybrothers
    @daybrothers Год назад +3

    Jeez, I haven't watched your channel in a long time, glad you're still doing good!

  • @chriskeeble
    @chriskeeble Год назад

    "Treat others as you would want to be treated" is a great mantra to do business by, and you appear to do that in everything that you do. Nice work as ever.

  • @tonynapier1074
    @tonynapier1074 Год назад +2

    I’ve been watching your videos for a couple of months. It’s exactly what I’ve been looking for. I have a spring well on my property and am trying to figure out how to make a hydro set up like yours along with solar and wind. Really appreciate all the detailed videos you put together. Cheers.

  • @rgr3427
    @rgr3427 Год назад +24

    Good on you mate. Taking care of your customers professionally, quickly and correctly. Be Safe out there

  • @andrewallason4530
    @andrewallason4530 Год назад +8

    You mentioned the effects of water hammer on the system. Something I like to do when installing gravity systems is to have a T with a section of vertical pipe to a cap near the bottom of the system. Air will naturally collect in the vertical pipe, any excess will just pass by. It will then use the trapped air pressure to remove the water hammer with no moving parts or valves.

    • @dougle03
      @dougle03 Год назад +2

      A micro expansion vessel then... ? 👍👍

  • @davidjones8680
    @davidjones8680 Год назад +1

    As some one who has worked with pumps and filter installations all my 50+ years of working life, I can testify that that green pipe is just about useless in any pressure side of a pump, it will always let you down, normally sooner rather than later. In any future installations you do I respectfully suggest you keep the path of the water to the turbine in a straight a line as possible, with no bends or radius at all, thus removing any uneven and unwanted internal side stresses on a flexible pipe. Keeping it dead straight eliminates internal G loading that occurs on any bend. It will also greatly reduces the possabilites of cavitation.
    David in Dudley.

    • @KrisHarbour
      @KrisHarbour  Год назад

      Hi David, the pipe is rated for suction and delivery. it is also rated within its bend radius and in this instance it is within it s max bend radius. There really isnt a practical way of getting the pipe to even enter in a straight line. If the turbine had one fixed nozzle it would be possible but a spear valve has to be 45 or 90 degrees. so in order to get the pipe in to it straight the pipe has to enter the building out of square or the turbine has to be mounted out of square. this causes its own long list off issues. If then any additional nozzles are added. (and its common for turbines to have 4 nozzles) it is impossible to get straight pipe runs. It is completely standard on turbines to use gradual bends to feed nozzles. if you look at images of commercial turbines even ones in huge power stations I doubt you will find any examples of a slight pipe run to the nozzle as it just isnt practical. In really high flow and head situations the pipe to the manifold is stainless steel or cast iron. But this is a small system and the solid pipe is not necessary. That length of pipe will last decades in this situation. I chalenge you to find me an example of a turgo or Pelton turbine with a straight nozzle feed pipe.

  • @koolsolutionszx12r55
    @koolsolutionszx12r55 Год назад +2

    For such a young man your skills and work ethic are off the charts. Your generation don't believe in hard work sadly. But thank God there's you and a few others to carry on these skills and hopefully pass them down. This might very well be the most useful RUclips channel on the whole platform. If you were my son I would be proud as a Peacock! AWESOME WORK!! AWESOME OUTLOOK ON LIFE, AWESOME PERSONALITY!

  • @Beansswtf
    @Beansswtf Год назад +1

    If I was the customer I couldn't of been happier. You've done everything you said you would and more. They knew the pipe was a problem, but it would tide them over until you could replace it. No problem there at all, at least it shows them that the system does indeed work and delivers! I did have a thought about the draining pipe issue though. It would definitely be possible to have a float sensor in that tank at the top of the pipe, and if it starts draining have some stepper motor slowly close off the spear or main valve. Whoever you're working with on the pressure monitoring app/thing would be more than capable of programming this also.

  • @zeroy
    @zeroy Год назад +3

    it begs the question of putting in a water level detector to shutdown and alert customer of potential leak or water ingress in the room! Great turn around on the fix which is the main thing!

    • @Nick-B78
      @Nick-B78 Год назад +1

      That’s a great idea

  • @SouthpawDavey
    @SouthpawDavey Год назад +8

    You should claim out time back from the suppler of the pipe. It didn't do what it said on the tin. You have the pressure readings so you can prove the pressure and it wasn't a water hammer.
    Good job happy customer in the end.

    • @Supadrumma441
      @Supadrumma441 Год назад +4

      Should name and shame the company too. Shoddy product should always be called out.

    • @VFRrider
      @VFRrider Год назад +2

      I'm tempted to agree.
      This was not Kris's problem really. The hose was not 'as sold' ?

    • @SouthpawDavey
      @SouthpawDavey Год назад

      @@Supadrumma441 He should definitely have a word.

    • @SouthpawDavey
      @SouthpawDavey Год назад +1

      @@VFRrider I would have to have a word with them even more so if they were supplying lots of things.

  • @stanleygallman7800
    @stanleygallman7800 Год назад

    I sure that every customer that you happen to work will probably be very well pleased with the type of professional services that you give them. So just keep doing positive things, 🙏 and thanks for sharing!

  • @wolfe1970
    @wolfe1970 Год назад +3

    Things happen Kris, and im sure it will down the road with other jobs....
    Its how you deal with them, and can see you have dealt with it very promptly and in a professional manner, if ever i needed a Hydro system you'd be the first id call.

  • @philbambrough8134
    @philbambrough8134 Год назад +6

    Love your videos! I would recommend fitting the plug / socket the other way around. female socket on the turbine, male plug on the cable to controller. would be safer in the event of the turbine accidentally becoming unplugged while in motion.

    • @bretty453
      @bretty453 8 месяцев назад

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerCon would provide the ideal shrouded connection method here.

  • @stickulari
    @stickulari Год назад +8

    Great customer service, as it should be. I've enjoyed the whole series on this job, well done. You might want to think about using an inlet (male end) mounted on the wall not a socket (female) and a female end on the turbine cable both at IP67 rather than IP44.

  • @davidkirk941
    @davidkirk941 Год назад +1

    I watch this from USA AZ as a British person I am amazed at your Skill level great to watch thank u oh also my dad's brother was the mayor of Wales (Ron Kirk) FYI

  • @AliC-uk2gp
    @AliC-uk2gp Год назад +1

    Hi Kris. You’re obviously a top bloke and clever to boot. An excellent system for your customer. I’ve worked in engineering for a long time both mechanical and electrical and safe to say I have seen numerous unexpected failures and I will second what a number of commenters have said that it’s actually how a person/company deals with those failures that determines how the customer views them. In this instance you dealt with it professionally and quickly. And what’s more you’ve improved the system. I’ve seen many parts fail prematurely only for OEMs not to learn from it and replace like for like.
    Personally I can’t stand regulations for this and regulations for that, most of the time I personally think theyre over the top and a product of a nanny state but unfortunately to keep ourselves out of jail we’ve no choice other than to follow them, so based on that, I’d second swapping the commando plugs so that the female end is on the “live” side and I’d also urge you to perhaps consider getting yourself on a course for the latest edition/amendment of the BS7671 18th Edition. The information you get will be invaluable to you going forward and whether we like it or not it’s the standard at which most electrical installations in the UK must adhere to.
    From the video (and I’ll happily stand corrected) it looks as though the cable from the turbine is SY Cable. This is currently not approved for use in the UK (you see it everywhere in industry but that’s by the by) and I do believe there is an effort to get it approved but I would consider reviewing BS7671 and using something approved.
    Good luck with your venture. I’m a mechanical and electrical control engineer so if I can offer advice on anything going forward feel free to get in touch.

    • @AliC-uk2gp
      @AliC-uk2gp Год назад +1

      Oh and thinking about it, I’d come up with a way of guarding the spinning turbine. If anyone gets chewed up by it then the HSE will have a field day. Simple mesh guard small enough to prevent fingers touching it should be good enough, if you really want to be belt and braces it should also be interlocked to the valve so that no one can open the valve/run the system with the guard not in place.

    • @TurkeySandwichJr
      @TurkeySandwichJr Год назад +1

      @@AliC-uk2gp what do you think of having to walk into 6+ inches of water, with a spinning turbine potentially generating an unknown voltage in the middle of it, to shut the water down? I was really not satisfied by the electrical "explanation" at the end. Electricity takes all paths, and this is a relatively high voltage 3 phase generator. I think there needs to be an external (outside of the power house) water valve, or intake diverter etc to mitigate exactly the failure that was observed.
      I understand this kind of risk on your own personal system but I believe something for a customer needs a higher safety standard.

    • @AliC-uk2gp
      @AliC-uk2gp Год назад

      Yeah, I’m not a fan of over regulation at all, in fact there’s that many obscure rules and regulations that it’s nigh on impossible to comply with them all. Unfortunately we live in a world where everyone’s trying to get one over on the next person or no matter what happens somebody has to be blamed and frankly I hate it. It’s that type of world (where we’re all trying to cover our arses) that makes me want to leave a more self sufficient lifestyle hence the reason I subscribe. As you say however if you’re doing this type of work commercially then it’s important “you cover your arse”. Maybe a simple lock on the door would suffice? I don’t know, but I certainly see your point.

  • @DarrenPoulson
    @DarrenPoulson Год назад +4

    Its had the blood sacrifice. That pipe will never fail now!

  • @celynjones4958
    @celynjones4958 Год назад +7

    Great follow up. Bloody Thumbs up

  • @AntonColores
    @AntonColores 10 месяцев назад

    Just enjoined watching your North Wales 1.5 Kw Hydroelectric System series (1-6 and this PS). Very interesting to see a system like this customized being made. Even the pipe burst (and predicting it) shows your craftmanship. Impressive, thanks for sharing 👍😜

  • @randyhooker3333
    @randyhooker3333 Год назад

    Love your work and knowledge. You know your craft. And are honest and communicate the potentials to you client. Extremely rare today. You are inspiring.

  • @jontaylor1652
    @jontaylor1652 Год назад +3

    Well done on the fix mate, I remembered you saying you weren't happy about that pipe.

  • @montedaestrada3563
    @montedaestrada3563 Год назад +2

    A good update Kris and proof, if proof were needed, that prototypes or first builds can always be improved on by experience,
    For the potential knockers you addressed at the end ..... If you think it's easy then you try doing it.
    Ice had my own water supply issues this week and my system is nowhere near as complex but equally frustrating because of poor quality new parts.

  • @graemefisher7014
    @graemefisher7014 Год назад

    What I have always liked about your videos us you are not afraid to show the stuff that goes wrong. Top video as always

  • @thequickestfox6106
    @thequickestfox6106 Год назад +1

    I think you did everything right by the customer; finished the original work as quickly as possible with the original materials ordered. Inspected your materials and notified them that part of it wasn't up to your own spec. Then were pro actively working to replace it even before it went. You gave them fair warning and an opportunity to not use it if they didn't want that small risk.

  • @ColinCarFan
    @ColinCarFan Год назад +5

    This is a great system but is there a reason for not having a cheap and simple guard/screen covering the turbine. I know it's inside a building with restricted access but the owner or you would get seriously hurt if they slipped and fell onto it or placed a hand down to stop their fall.

  • @bruderbro907
    @bruderbro907 Год назад +3

    Sorry about your thumb. Glad to see the new hose has a smooth inside. The ridges on the inside of the old hose can't be good for smooth water flow.

  • @WhataTry
    @WhataTry Год назад +1

    Well done , you warned everyone, I am sure your client is delighted with the job. great chanel thank you for letting us watch.🇮🇪☘️👏👏👏👏

  • @zeds.6783
    @zeds.6783 Год назад

    Thanks for the transparency, Kris. Failures are the manner in which engineered products are fine-tuned anyhow. God bless.

  • @mcflapper7591
    @mcflapper7591 Год назад +5

    Things I'd fix, at least for the next revision:
    - mount plug *much* higher (in the first place)
    - drain, min capacity: max flow (as happened right then it will happen again). Maybe mount turbine higher if feasible, add flow guide to facilitate drainage.
    Hope your thumb is OK.
    All the best to you both.

  • @DJ-uk5mm
    @DJ-uk5mm Год назад +7

    Man you are a real trooper ., also really authentic get your thumb fixed

  • @georgehallock2156
    @georgehallock2156 Год назад

    Well Done, Kris ! You had suspected that the hose was a possible weak point on installation and had the good sense to order a more substantial replacement. A fantastic hydro installation you’ve done there! God bless.

  • @snailswrath
    @snailswrath 7 месяцев назад

    It's a measure of integrity when people show both success and failiures. It's what makes it all the more interesting to watch.

  • @RitzyCigs
    @RitzyCigs Год назад +4

    Such impressive work Kris, your knowledge of these systems blows me away. If only you were in the US and could install one for all your American fans. Haha

  • @theminer3746
    @theminer3746 Год назад +5

    I'm not an electrician but I can't help but notice that you're connecting the turbine to a plug rather than a socket (AKA, the plug is the power source and the socket is the power drain) that's dangerous since you can easily touch the metal leads in the plug.
    What you need to do is buy a wall-mount plug and a wander socket. That way, the socket is the power source which is safer.
    You might also consider an IP67 rated plug/socket (the one that you screws the cover together) so it'll be safe even when submerged like this.
    Bonus correction : Your plug probably have the earth pin at the 6h position, for 50-250V DC, you're supposed to use a plug with the ground pin at the 3h position. But I have no idea where to source that either...

  • @carlroge
    @carlroge Год назад +1

    really enjoyed this series kris, thanks for sharing the problems and solutions. new pipe looks sweet

    • @mranderson274
      @mranderson274 Год назад

      One of my favorite RUclipsrs commenting on one of my other favorite RUclipsrs. Love both of your channels, keep up the great work and thank you for sharing your projects with us.

  • @gregrogers6012
    @gregrogers6012 Год назад

    I’m a regular guy that lives in Colorado. I have flowing water on my property. I’ve been interested in electric production as well as a fan coil unit. Your work is incredible. Nice work

  • @lozzaja91
    @lozzaja91 Год назад +4

    Nice fix. But as an electrican i shiver seeing that connetor so close to generator, just move it up to 6 feet above to avoid water ingress. Also the generator side should have the female connector or even better, just a junctionbox. 👍

    • @hayd7371
      @hayd7371 Год назад +2

      Doing work like this for paying clients that does not meet regs is criminal.

  • @MrRitudo
    @MrRitudo Год назад +13

    Good choice with that pipe! (apart from skewering yourself xD ) I do recommand to put some paint on your welds. The surface rust can become a problem in the long run even though its stainless steel. Love the videos as always!

    • @KrisHarbour
      @KrisHarbour  Год назад +7

      I am looking in to getting the equipment to treat the weld sites. Its a problem with stainless steel welds. I clean them up with a stainless only wire wheel but they do still get surface rust. Its 316 stainless and in my experience it never goes deep in to the steel. it tends to happen in area that get the hotest. I think after a while the surface heals itself. my own turbine did the same thing and the rust did not progress. But I do want to address that with an electronic cleaning machine that seals the surface.

    • @manolisgledsodakis873
      @manolisgledsodakis873 Год назад +1

      @@KrisHarbour Nice that you read the helpful comments, Kris. I watched the turbine series from the start and it's amazing how you've improved the design since the first prototype.

    • @MrRitudo
      @MrRitudo Год назад

      @@KrisHarbour Great choice of steel in moderately corrosive environments. So it should hold up a long time! But its for a customer so looks are important ;) the cleaning machine should do the job, no problem! :D Awesome to see that you think things through so much! Thats something I had to learn the hard way one to many occasions ^^'

  • @SH-uv6cp
    @SH-uv6cp Год назад +1

    Thanks for taking us along. Its all valuable knowledge, even though it's way over my head. I love it.

  • @moehunsinger724
    @moehunsinger724 Год назад +1

    Outstanding series Kris! You are a true inspiration to many. I’m going off grid in the near future and wish I could get you here in the United States for your great wealth of knowledge! Keep up the excellent work

  • @darrinduffey686
    @darrinduffey686 Год назад +3

    Love your work. I have an idea that might help with water flow. If the water pipe wasn't as close to the top of your collector box intake and the screen filters, this would allow more water in the box. In other words, move the collector pipe as low as possible in the collector box. This would also allow you to put in a electronic water level controller device that could close the valve (electronic operated gate valve) at the bottom in the generator house so when there was not enough water flow you wouldn't have to manually close the valve. Just a thought. I hope this will help on a future build.

  • @jibcot8541
    @jibcot8541 Год назад +4

    Oh no! Good prediction on that dodgy hose.

  • @Simonc369
    @Simonc369 7 месяцев назад

    As an electronics engineer of 35 yrs practice, I make more mistakes every day than Kris seems to make in a whole project.
    Very impressed with the mythology --- Calculate Three times, Measure Twice, and cut once !!

  • @stephenb5595
    @stephenb5595 Год назад

    Done yourself proud taking ownership of problems before they happen. That's what customer service should be like everywhere.
    Loved the video and like you show both the good and bad side of things.

  • @viliy0
    @viliy0 Год назад +4

    The new one looks much better

  • @BobHannent
    @BobHannent Год назад +5

    I like what you did and how you handled it.
    My only comments?
    Get a good first aid kit in the Landy! It'll be easier to work if you've got some nice dressings rather than a rag.
    I was thinking a small improvement might be to raise the 3-pin/Commando so it's comfortably above any possible waterline? I almost thought about suggesting rotating it by 90deg, but previously I've seen waterproofing lessened by sagging caused by gravity at an interface point.

  • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
    @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Год назад

    Really wasn’t sure I’d find this of much interest to me , but to my surprise I found it compelling . I think that’s more to do with the presenters character and style . He comes across as totally committed to customer satisfactions and these days that is refreshing and rare . This seems like a conversation that should be had for new builds in areas that have access to the right conditions for a system like this . Can you imagine a housing development near a water source at the correct height not only being self sufficient but actually feeding excess power into the grid ? Worth a look isn’t it ?
    👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @dlbuffmovie
    @dlbuffmovie Год назад +1

    This is when quality of planning is great. That connection you set up made it so you COULD fix it. Nice. (fyi - when I saw the thumbnail, my first reaction was OH NOES!!!)

  • @The9Pauls
    @The9Pauls Год назад +5

    How do we get on the list for one of those turbines? I'm in the US. Just bought a remote property with a 1/4ac spring which flows 1M gal/day

  • @H4zuZazu
    @H4zuZazu Год назад +3

    The velocity of the water is way higher on the outer radius of the pipe than on the inner side the old hose propably got washed our from micro debris an the water velocity.

  • @evanofelipe
    @evanofelipe Год назад

    It’s to your credit Kris that you readily replaced the failed connection pipe. I bet you are your most severest critic and no doubt kicking yourself for not addressing your doubts earlier. So far as the suitability of the original pipe, regardless of it’s rated maximum pressure, it’s worth remembering that these tests are generally conducted with newly made pipe in ideal temperature controlled conditions and when you removed the old pipe you noted it was brittle. In this working environment, albeit protected from direct sunlight, the material had been exposed extreme temperature variations experienced in the hut from hot summer days to cold night conditions on a Welsh mountainside, let alone constantly subjected to high resonance vibration created by the turbine to which it was attached. This failure can be put down to ‘experience’ and Murphy’s Law. If it can go wrong, it will go wrong. Well done.

  • @TechOne7671
    @TechOne7671 10 месяцев назад

    Don’t worry about the hose Kris, it’s a learning experience. Try using some hydraulic hose. I have worked as an electrician in 2 hydro electric power stations in Scotland, they were both old and had been upgraded with new machinery. The thing is the new stuff is not all it’s cracked up to be, just new problems and issues to deal with. So even the multi million pound jobs are not perfect, far from it. Teething problems are still being ironed out years later. Your doing a great job, keep it up. All the best.

  • @MrPetrvershinin
    @MrPetrvershinin Год назад +5

    DO NOT work with bare hands - use gloves and mittens .... It's still young, everything heals quickly, AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL COME OUT ... Take care of your hands and everything else !!!!

    • @VFRrider
      @VFRrider Год назад +1

      Sadly, gloves cause a massive lack of dexterity. Personally, I can't use them. I need to be able to feel threads biting etc. I can't even work with surgical type gloves. OK for lifting/ carrying, bloody useless for fitting 8mm nut!

    • @MrPetrvershinin
      @MrPetrvershinin Год назад

      @@VFRrider dexterity it’s not needed here, everything rather stumbles upon a HURRY, - I want to see the result as soon as possible, - the work can wait or do it slowly, AND THE HANDS AND FINGERS ARE ALONE AND THERE ARE NO SPARE ...

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 Год назад +4

    Only serves to make one point, Kris - you not only can trust your judgement, but you have to! How much time did those wingnuts, and the fast pipe connector, save? Very best wishes for everything that you do. Oh, and carry elastoplast, maybe?

  • @wornoutwrench8128
    @wornoutwrench8128 Год назад

    Been there a thousand times, manufacture decides the original was too expensive so go cheap or outsource.
    Get the part, open the box say crap to yourself, put it on so the customer can use his equipment, and tell him you will get a better one coming.
    Then you just hope the new one shows up, on time and is better quality then the original one.
    Good work. I just love that little system, such a clean install.
    Watching from the west coast of Canada.

  • @timwegman5776
    @timwegman5776 Год назад

    I agree with all the other comments on this video that is your work is of the highest quality. Wow the effort and quality you put into this small hydro plant is more than professional it is outstanding. If you were in my neck of the woods I would hire you for sure every time. Great work amazing quality and outstanding service!

  • @williambramer8217
    @williambramer8217 Год назад +3

    Noticed that the old pipe had a corrugated bore and was not a smooth bore pipe which will massively reduce the efficiency.
    What is the temperature of the water ? If it is too cold the plastic will reach it’s glass point and become brittle and the turbulence caused by the rough bore can cause a shock loading.

    • @KrisHarbour
      @KrisHarbour  Год назад +2

      It is smooth. You can see the ribs on the other side from the inside but it isn’t ribbed on the inside. It has a very slight texture on the inside but it’s a lot smoother than it looks. It’s such a short length it would make no noticeable friction loss. To Say it would have a huge loss is completely incorrect.

    • @Pithead
      @Pithead Год назад +2

      I was about to post the same about the inner corrugation. He probably had it in mind. The new smooth more rubbery pipe will probably handle lower temperatures better than the old plasticky one.

  • @togume
    @togume Год назад +4

    Love this series - great work. Thank you for sharing.
    What is the purpose of the standpipe? I saw it in the other videos, but I didn't catch the reason for it. Thanks!

    • @KrisHarbour
      @KrisHarbour  Год назад +7

      Thanks, the stand pipe is there to allow the air out while the pipe fills. without it the air has to come out of the same place water is trying to get in. and it would take ages for the pipe to fill up after draining.

    • @togume
      @togume Год назад

      @@KrisHarbour ahhhhh!!! Brilliant. Thank you for teaching us 🙏.
      Looking forward to future videos.

  • @two-bit8502
    @two-bit8502 Год назад

    Trials and tribulations of starting a business. Thankfully you have a really reasonable customer.

  • @1tonnematt
    @1tonnematt Год назад

    Awesome well done Kris if only other people providing utilities were so honest !

  • @daniellittle7846
    @daniellittle7846 Год назад +3

    using SY cable is not rated for that kind of application to take the power off the generator its not corrosion resistant

  • @bradholland6074
    @bradholland6074 Год назад +5

    Could you by chance use hydraulic hose like we use on our tractors? As always a great video. The customer is very lucky to have a contractor as upstanding as you

    • @kuhrd
      @kuhrd Год назад +1

      When I first saw the new hose I thought it was hydraulic return/suction line hose and when he said it was only rated 150PSI I was thinking that it very well could be hydraulic return line. I was expecting a higher working pressure than 150PSI but that is a lot larger diameter hose than what I have normally dealt with.

  • @TheKnacklersWorkshop
    @TheKnacklersWorkshop Год назад +2

    Good to see it is all working again, well done Kris.

  • @350pauli
    @350pauli Год назад

    Great job 👏 you sorted it and it’s spot on ..can’t believe the pipe let you down but turning up and sorting it out quickly like that is awesome credit to you and your business

  • @mychalkeeney260
    @mychalkeeney260 Год назад +4

    Great content and it’s awesome you’re building/welding the hydro components in-house. Quick question - what’s the connector you’re using from the PMA motor to the wire along the wall… looks like some type of waterproof plug? Thanks.

    • @simoncroft9792
      @simoncroft9792 Год назад +1

      These are industrial connectors to BS4343 commonly known as CEE connectors or Commando type.
      They are harmonised to european standard IEC60309 . Blue colour is used for 230v AC they are rated 16Amp , 32 or even 64
      The type Kris is using is IP44 - splash proof but they are also available as IP67 - waterproof.
      Red is used for 400v ( usually for three phase )
      Yellow is used for 110volt supplies common on building sites for portable tools

  • @newsome36
    @newsome36 Год назад +3

    Where the geese gone ? Sold ? Eaten?

  • @TheDaf95xf
    @TheDaf95xf Год назад

    Morning Kris. I’m absolutely loving this channel 👍🏻 Well done you for the pipe fix 😀 The way you explained things is really interesting and understandable 👏🏻

  • @mewtoo790
    @mewtoo790 Год назад

    Really do appreciate your work and honesty in videos a true credit to your self and your hydro company. Great watching your progress, good luck!