I have the answers to his questions The first question yes it can cut mandalorian armor but it is still difficult or else we would not have so Mary people looking for besgar, the other question does vibration cut absolutely that is why is so useful and it also makes the object that you ar cutting have its molecular structure fragmented thanks to the vibration see a video of death battle wolverine vs rainden metalgier solid you will like how they explain vibrations in weapons
@@chosenofkhorne2951 One problem with the vibrating weapons part of that Death Battle ep though. They are basing their words on the idea/theory that one can pass through solid objects if they vibrate their molecules fast enough (like The Flash from DC for example). However, this theory is not how physics work and is proven false. I learned this from one of Kyle Hill's vids on Becuause Science.
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1:58 Because it's demonstrated it respects the source material. Favreux himself said that they're not trying to remake Star Wars. Star Wars is George Lucas' playground and they're just playing in it. The Sequel Trilogy ignored the source material, and in many ways mocked it and those who valued it, and when you spend your time shitting on the people you're trying to convince, you're not going to be that successful in convincing them.
Yeah I agree. On a surface level, ignoring fan fiction from the community and wade through all the fannon and still get hate for missing some smaller details is an idea that is very easy to accept, but Star wars is rather unique in that the community and fans have been filtering decades worth of ideas, concepts, and stories. Alot of the A grade gold material have raised to the top for Disney to pick and season for their use but noooo they scoop up the bones at the bottom and then dip them in some really odd flavors like wasabi and durian fruit. Some will like that kick, but most will just gag.
I also think it’s because of the legend that is Dave Filoni, someone who was heavily involved in both Clone wars and Rebels, which were both accepted and loved by the fans (Rebels perhaps a bit less)
@@PasserMontanus yes and no. Between the original and prequel trilogy, George gave Star Wars the unique flavor that everyone loves. The biggest difference in the two sets is that there was no one to filter the strong flavors of George was pushing out and making sure everything in George's head translated properly onto the movie screen. George is an artist that didn't have someone keeping him on the canvas during that prequel stretch.
Fun Fact: when at war with the Jedi, the Mandalorions used bullets instead of blasters because Jedi couldn’t deflect them and it would turn the bullet into a shotgun round when it hit the lightsaber.
and then they essentially went "Ooo scatterguns" (the in universe shotgun) and used those as well. Even attached some to their armor so they couldnt be Force yanked away. Parry this you filthy casual!
I just spent 30 minutes listening to an Australian talk about the legitimacy of an ancient/futuristic space-knife while dressed in authentic medieval garb and standing in front of a castle... yup, just a normal Friday.
@JohanMDK I've never seen one, but for some reason, the idea of a Drop Bear is utterly terrifying. Like you're just walking your dog and 3 ton mound of fur and hate falls from the sky.
I love how shad points out his mistakes during editing rather than making cuts, really shows how he can get it wrong but wants to give correct information. Shows character of how dedicated to being accurate he is.
"And the reason why I accept The Mandalorian as canon is because-" Me: "because it's actually good." "It has respect for continuity and the expanded universe." Me: "that's what I just said."
@@hangyoutubeworkersandceos | "You know." It's a subjective opinion, mate. You don't _know_ the show is bad, you only _think_ the show is bad. Just as I don't know the show is good, I only think it's good. As for what Shad thinks, his opinion is his own as well.
@@hangyoutubeworkersandceos dude that’s like saying shotgun round to the face or no shotgun to the face. Of course one would rather eat food than cardboard, that’s a general fact. But that is also an opinion as well, because dung beetles and certain types of animals would rather eat actual crap than food. As for shows it’s still an opinion. Same with music.
Shad, a note on terminology. Ultrasonic: frequencies above human hearing. Supersonic: moving faster than the speed of sound (within the medium); produces sonic booms and shockwaves.
Yes. Ultra and infra is always referring to the wave length. Which makes it confusing that we use ultraviolet and infrared for light but no specifications for sound.
Yes, i was confused too. Something eg a knife that moves at a speed that exceeds the sound barrier will create sonic booms wont it? aka turns the knife into more of a concussion grenade more than a cutting tool.
Based on the canon (but not great) rebels animation, cross guarded light sabres did exist before kylo ren. They were phased out by single-exhaust blades for a couple reasons. When the sith were a lot more prominent, the jedi would frequently have to duel them, so cross guards proved very useful; however, once the sith were "defeated" the jedi order transitioned to a more ceremonial organization and lightsaber dueling became less of an emphasis during the 1000 or so years before the clone wars. Consequently, cross guards were removed because there were no sith to fight, and made light sabers more elegant as a status symbol.
Wasn't another explanation that a whole crystal couldn't do it? Kylo Ren's lightsaber crystal was confirmed to have been cracked and such, creating an unstable blade which needed excess ventilation. that was where the Crossguard came in for Kylo, not necessarily out of combat desire, but out of needing his saber to not explode.
Physics student here. Imagine the vibrations arent just along the cutting angle. Consider a vibration outwards from the width of the blade instead of along the length. This causes very small temporary gaps along the material preventing it from clamping onto the knife. (much - it would still feel like sliding the knife through thick viscous material) This would also cause much more damage to organic material through micro tearing.
Agreed! You could almost imagine it like the flat of the blade slapping with material aside in a rapid fashion. I think this is actually how it's meant when they're talking about the blade cutting in a larger area than its cutting ratio. If the blade is vibrating sideways it would create a much wider gash. However that still probably wouldn't kill the mudhorn, you really do need that extra penetration to kill such a large animal.
Also: there is an effect in real physics that if an object is hit by something that is moving at a speed exceeding the speed of sound inside the said object, the damage is much greater. You can think of it as of a sonic boom from a jet, but inside the body/armor. So if vibroblades are made of a material which has VERY high speed of sound and is extremely resilient, then very fast vibrations of the blade could induce sonic booms inside the target, explaning the whole "massive damage from a nick" thing. Actually, this effect is exactly why modern day militaries try to develop railguns, as their muzzle velocity can be sufficient to cause such sonic booms in steel.
I like this explanation. So when they describe the vibrations as being hyper sonic, it's not just super sonic in the air, but super sonic in some materials you want to cut through, like flesh.
@@Nostroman_Praetor it's basically what you see in those old samurai movies when the protagonist cuts someone hands clean off, but instead of that "xiiing" like sound, you will hear a huge explosion. So basically the best way to reason how it would sound is imagining what a samurai movie directed by Michael Bay would be like. 🤣🤣🤣
So interestingly enough, the cross guard on Kylo's lightsaber is explained by his crystal being unstable, so it needs exhaust points for it to not blow up in his hands, which also shows and explains the flair of his saber unlike others.
@@yogurtofthemultiverse2200 not necessarily. That means he knew better, or whoever made the saber did. The crystal is cracked, which is why it was unstable.
@@yogurtofthemultiverse2200 It may have happened before but that is mostly sw legends and that sorta stuff, around the time on the old republic and before that as well lightsaber technology wasn't perfected enough. These lightsabers like Kylo's would be more common in between the use of Protosabers and the more modern lightsabers.
But this isn't the first time a cracked crystal is seen, we see it in the Firce Unleashed as well, although it is single exhaust that's probably due to the default model not because it's possible but if TFU becomes Canon again or if it has (idk anymore) that means you don't need the vents per se
Best part is that ultra-sonic in no way refers to the speed of sound, but in fact the *_frequency_* which is inaudible to humans on the high-frequency side of the spectrum (I would imagine infra-sonic is the term for inaudible on low side?). So he said it wrong both pre and post-edit
@@feha92 He really didn't say it wrong, techically. Moving objects at ultrasonic frequencies CAN exceed the speed of sound. It's not the definition. But they aren't mutually exclusive either. If you moved a blade one inch back and forth 20.000 times a second, it would be breaking the sound barrier at an ultrasonic frequency. And that's just at the lowest possible ultrasonic frequency, you'd obviously need shorter and shorter distance at higher frequencies.
@@whynotdean8966 But he did actually. Ultrasound is sound that is beyond human hearing. Sound always travels at the same speed regardless of frequency. The speed depends on the medium and nothing else. Whether or not the membrane of a speaker is moving faster than sound as it vibrates with ultrasonic frequency just depends on the distance it's travelling, so it may or it may not. Ultrasonic does not equal faster than sound.
@@Seele2015au It might not be explosive, but once you see him digging tunnels towards your house be wary of attempts to collapse them by setting the wooden reinforcements inside on fire. Or when a wall is build around your home to starve you out...
Hey Shad loved the video! A little comment I have is to clarify the difference between supersonic and ultrasonic. Supersonic refers to something moving through a medium faster than a sound wave can. Ultrasonic refers to the frequency of a vibration or wave being above the audible range. The ultrasonic vibrations mean that the blade is vibrating at a frequency above 20khz
@@Colonel_Overkill Hyperspace is basically like warping and traveling through another dimension that shortens the voyage I feel like that was clear as day at this point. It breaks the world because why wouldn't this be used as a weapon more often? Man a ship with hyerdrive with droids and you're all set.
@@kennethsatria6607 I heard a theory that the hyperspace ramming was only effective because the first order ship (the name of it escapes me) had hyperspace tracking, so it had a hyperspace shadow. They would've needed to explain that though. Also aimed at @Colonel Overkill
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth god hay I just found out I have just need hiters right testocal from use of one so I'm the reason he only has one... I do not understand this but I atlest killed that thug trying to rob me.
Crossguards were shown in the Rebels animated series, implying that prior to the Old Republic this type of lightsaber was somewhat common. Basically it's JJ doing gimmicks and Filoni doing the heavy lifting.
Those cross guards do nothing tho since it would just cut right through the body and destroy the saber, even kylos should get cut if you hit at the t joint
@@Abysalss you realise there is still lightsaber blade in that T section if they cut it it would only go halfway through do you think there is no blade and then randomly one only coming out the end
The earliest piece of material I have found with a crossguard is one of the Clone Wars comics from 2004. On the legends wookiepedia it is the picture under under the variations category. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber/Legends
@@Abysalss "The bits coming off the sides are just casings around the little beams to protect your hands, so even if someone cuts through the metal they're gonna hit the beam, any Padawan knows that!" I may have butchered that quote like a room full of Jedi younglings but you get the idea
@@deinonychus1948 According to the anatomy schematic of the crossguard saber (which apparently exists Lol), it being struck on the crossguard would cut through the outer casing and directly into the emitters that project the crossguard's blades, they're not solid all the way through on the inside. Evidently the existence of that for his saver (in the movies) are specifically to balance off the damaged crystal's power, not for the novelty of blocking. Otherwise I assume the saber would explode :p
@@robertharris6092 Old school Aussies love the Bowie knife and fun fact: The Bowie knife was actually designed and first invented in Sheffield, England. Then it spread throughout the UK commonwealth and eventually got to America. The only reason it's called a Bowie knife is because it's most famous user was Jim Bowie.
There actually are ultrasonic cutters, that are being used to cut through really tough materials. I work for a company called Telsonic in Switzerland and we specialize in ultrasonic applications (mostly welding, but other applications too). Our cutting systems are quite large and not as small as a normal knife, but the technology has been invented and it's super effective.
I have used an ultrasonic version of basically an exacto knife and it cuts super easily through most materials and part of that is based on the heat it generates. You can cut easily through plastics because the blade basically melts its way through with the friction it generates.
@@NinjabeeRedtricity nope there would need to be a lore that star wars would be based on so it is not a fan fiction Disney made a fan fiction because Star Wars already existed before Disney ruined it
"I don't know how sound waves are created by vibration." That's how musical instruments work Shad, the vibration of a material is used to produce sound. Side note, I always thought that vibroblades worked by vibrating molecules to split them apart, your theory of using sound waves _sounds_ really fresh. (I'll show myself out)
and mid 20th century style electric carving knife, and early 21st century lavalier mic future anthropologists are either going to be charmed, "a history nerd just like us" or hopelessly confused, "sacred... priceless... family... heirlooms...? from an era of disposable consumption?? fucket, he's a time lord"
The cutting/destructive capacity of a vibroblade's shock wave would depend on what is being cut. A shock wave passing through water (or in anything made mostly of water) is going to retain its energy over a much greater distance due to the incompressibility of water as compared to air. This can be used to explain a weapon that causes massive damage to flesh (due to the vibrations destroying delicate tissues like blood vessels, yet causes no damage until the blade makes physical contact and has relatively little effect on other materials such as metal.
You seem to be ignoring the effect high speed impact has on tissue. High velocity bullets cause hydrostatic shock and damage organs that are not affected by the bullets path. The vibroblade could have a similar effect.
that doesnt happen,bullet has a lot of energy because it is heavy and send with high speed,but vibroblade only vibrate less than 1cm,even if its high speed it wont load a lot of energy while its moving
@@fredbarnes2600 No, you wouldn't need to be superhuman to wield it. What are you even talking about? Vibroblades are a real thing and you don't need anything special to wield them or use them effectively.
The Mandolorian is living proof that you do not need an epic 3 billion ship space battle or a super convoluted plot to be a good star wars show/movie, it's simply better quality in all aspects than the "Fanfictions"
these days I prefer stories on a smaller scale. We already have a lot of the worldbuilding done on a galactic level, I would rather just watch people going through their own problems within this galaxy, like the bounty hunters or a soldier or even just a singular Jedi or a Master/Padawan duo without it being "the fate of the galaxy"
I haven't watched those "fan fictions" yet I do think there's a place for both the small and large scale things. When you make it big and fancy though it would be a good idea not to just rely on pretty special effects and combine it with a compelling story that (mostly) makes sense.
@@extrastuff9463 yep, I agree that both big movies and special effects and the like have a place, just like slow and easy shows. What I’m implying is that the “fanfics” rely to much on that to compensate for horrible plot and ridiculous character choices.
Greetings, fellow Nonhuman Sentience! May I suggest you subscribe to Just Some Bigfoot With Internet Access? He's got this sort of community subbed to him of us sentient beings not usually considered sentient or real by humans. Also, alt accounts.
Wouldn't a knife that vibrates faster than sound make deafening noise, vibrate your hand to the point of being painful or even dangerous to hold, and get really hot from friction?
Not necessarily. First of all, if it vibrates faster than 20 kHz or so, it would be producing ultrasound which is inaudible to humans (it's basically the sound version of UV light). Similarly, the nerves in your hand wouldn't be able to feel something vibrating at those speeds. It might get uncomfortable to hold after a while, but the vibration itself wouldn't be able to be directly felt. Finally, moving things only produce a lot of heat if there is a lot of friction. There are plenty of ways to reduce friction (lubricant, magnetic bearings, etc.), and the heat that does get produced can be absorbed by heatsinks, and could be limited by only using the vibration function whenever you're actually trying to cut something with it.
@@PossumReviews Vibration-proof gloves. They make them in the real world for daily users of power tools and things like that, roadwork crews and such. They really do help - though naturally it would have to be Super Space Vibration-Proof.
You actually would actually want "z" plane vibration to help separate material. The extensive damage would mostly be due to cavitation much like firearms.
@Billy Oak god that sounds evil and makes a gaping hole so blood gushing that you vic wod die just from nearly any place. Oh and those spikes are mearly a centimetre long.
Shad has this strange ability to make me ponder stuff about absolutely everything while giving me enough background to make a half-assed educated guess of my own and amuse myself at the same time. He has what it takes to make a great teacher!
@cak01vej I understand what you mean, however the sound waves concentrate at the open end of the tuning fork and are very directional. They are so directional that people have used tuning forks to shatter glass, but it would only work when the open end of the fork was pointed at the glass.
Imagine a vibrosword covered in a flammable oil. Some one jumps you and suddenly your sword just bursts into flame. It would scare the shit out of less advanced species
Very interesting analysis. One thought that came to mind about a vibroblade wedging and getting stuck in material as a limitation, what if the blade also has a small lateral vibration? The blade is literally slapping the material out to the sides as well in that instance, which would vastly reduce friction in a cut without the crazy sound wave cutting having to be necessary.
One thing he doesn't seem to know is that vibroblades are not science fiction, they really do exist. Their main benefit is exactly that they don't get stuck. They are mainly for use with complex material that straight cutting blades tend to get stuck in like paper and certain polymers.
Fun fact: Boba Fett debuted in the Holiday Special, and by extension the whole Mandalorian race. Please let it sink in that The Mandalorians existence began with the Star Wars Holiday Special.
@@eedwardgrey2 Fun Little Known Fact: Bobba Fett made his actual first appearance in real life: in a parade in september 24th 1978, to be exact, predating the Star Wars Holiday Special.
George's own words. The films are the main universe. Video games, books, comics, all never were considered Canon, and were part of their own separate universe. However TCW is Canon, as was directly supervised by George himself, and they incorporated a lot of EU aspects, thus making them Canon. Dave is doing the same with Mandalorian, bringing old EU lore and bringing it to Canon under Disney's nose.
A reason that vibroblades can't cut outside their length could be that it's not using sound in the air, it's using sound in the material they're cutting to tear it to pieces before the blade actually gets to it. This would explain the increased cutting, especially with the more inconsistent material of mudhorn neck, and would allow for vibroblades to damage beskar in the cases where it is at the resonant frequency of the piece of armor.
I mean...there's no such thing as good fanfiction most of the time...and anything is better than those shitty novels and comics. Well, not anything...the sequels were pretty bad. Not as bad as some think...but then the originals aren't as good as some think, either.
Little detail about the vibro blade. If you cut electronics with it, the blade will conduct electricity to the electronics in the handle of the blade. This will cause it to explode inside your hand.
@@smergthedargon8974 bro theres literally little saws made to cut wood that vibrate to do it so fast. Go to literally any hardware store. Theres your example.
So ultrasonic generators by a different name exist, i use them professionally. Al ot of people do. Ultrasonic on metal have an interesting effect. With enough power you can weld with it. Even cold. The problem is you would end up merging the dagger to like metals. This teck is used for wire bonds in your cell phone or computer processor
For some additional information to this, there already exist ultrasonic cutters with high application in factory settings for food prep and textile cutting. Normally you don't see them cutting metal, but there is some indication that they can cut metal since the ultrasonic cutter from Mxmoonant is advertised as being able to cut aluminum. It is not quite a vibroblade, but it is push-dagger sized so real life is getting quite close. Combined with an earlier comment from @ankokuraven about ultrasonic homogenization, it seems promising that vibroblades could exist.
For the Mudhorn scene what I always thought was that when he stabbed the mudhorn, that the Vibroblade vibrated the mudhorns flesh and bones, rupturing its arties, spinal cord and maybe even scrambling the brain. Not that it was cutting deeper but that the vibration turned the things insides into a smoothy
In clone wars it's also shown that the blade carries an electrical charge, so it can theoretically short out someone's nervous system like a taser/stungun would but to a lethal degree
Also, this made me think of something that I read about power swords in w40k (can't remember if this was from official material or the comment section). But supposedly, power swords emit some sort of magnetic type of energy that puts tension on the material, pushing it away from itself at the edge of the blade. Imagine trying to cut a rope normally, you'd have to apply a sawing action. Now imagine 2 trucks pulling on either end, all you'd have to do is barely touch the edge to it and it'll snap apart. I always wondered if the tech applied to all types of materials (flesh) or just anything metallic/magnetic. Any w40k nerds here?
Honestly, as somebody who loved TLJ, RoS broke my heart - and yet now, I'm kinda glad. RoS, crazy as it sounds, healed the divide in the fanbase. If Rian Johnson had been given Ep9, we'd probably all still be arguing over whether the Sequels were masterpieces or trash, but thanks to Abrams, Disney and unnecessary Palpatine, we can all just agree that yeah, the trilogy sucked. I can't even gather the energy to caveat that with how great I thought the first 2/3rds of TLJ were. TLJ was a problem because it was creative and interesting and didn't care who it pissed off to tell the story it wanted to tell. RoS isn't a problem, because it was bland, milquetoast nothingness - you'd have to be lobotomised to not see it as a soulless wreck of a movie. RoS is laughable, not divisive, and that has actually helped us all move on.
No? There’s 9, The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command
Two things: First, the Mandalorian is basically a space cowboy, and the series basically falls into the genre of space western. And, generally speaking, cowboys didn’t usually carry swords. Usually a knife, but that’s equally for utility. Second, in the Mandalorian, he DOES get a sword in season 2 by way of “The Dark Saber”, which is basically the Mandalorian Excalibur.
One of the problem though between cutting flesh and cutting hard materials is the difference in flexibility. If the material on either side of the blade cannot be pushed back any further, then the edge of the blade will not have enough space to make as deep a cut before it is trapped in by friction.
@@shadiversity Vibroblades are not fictional. They really do exist. They are used on complex materials where you normally need sawing or a lot of force but you want to cut it cleanly. The most common use of ultrasonic cutters is actually surgery where making a clean cut into the body without causing as little flesh ripping as possible is very important. They are also used when cutting cloth by hand as they allow you to cut it fairly accurate with less of the fibers getting torn and ruffled.
Ultra sonic vibrations on a blade would absolutely cause damage beyond the area of the cutting surface. The vibrations of the blade cause the blade to move extremely fast. That fast moving blade will impact the flesh with a high velocity creating a lot of force. Force that will travel further through the flesh than otherwise. The edge can cause a cut and the vibration would tear the cut open.
Yeah, I assume it’s the same principle as trying to tear a piece of laminated paper. If you just try to tear it you won’t make any progress, but if you make a small cut on the edge, the same force you put in is able to tear through the whole sheet.
I completely disagree with this statement. Ultra sonic knives are a real thing that are uses in industry all the time. Every time you buy a pre portioned slice of cake (in a supermarket) it is likely cut by an ultra sonic cutter. I defy you to cut a cleaner slice of cake with a regular blade.
I always imagined their cutting power deriving from the force of the vibrations rendering nearby matter porous, essentially liquifying a small ammount of matter around the surface area of the blade, allowing it to keep sliding forward
I'm glad at least one other person here points out the similarities between vibroblades and High Frequency modified swords from MGR:R. Might as well put a RULES OF NATURE! here to show my thanks.
@@z1maass727 Those were my favourites. I was soo stoked to see Bo-Katan using a similar weapon in The Mandalorian. Glad that and Battlefront 2 finally brought that weapon into canon.
Two ideas for future videos based on this one. 1. Vibro-pikes were seen in return of the jedi, by Palpatine's royal (red) guards, we just didn't see them used. What are Shad's thoughts on vibro-pikes or vibro-lances? 2. Metal Gear Solid 2 introduced a HF (high frequency) blade, a katana that vibrated enough to increase damage and also allowed the user to block bullets. I want to see Shad talk about that weapon!
I'm commenting this at around 12 minutes into the video so you might mention it, but something to consider is hydrostatic shock. Even though some projectiles aren't sharp, the wounds that they leave tend to be much larger than their immediate surface of contact because the velocity causes fluid to displace. In ballistics gel, faster projectiles tend to leave a massive temporary cavity viewed under slow motion and a permanent cavity that is still larger than the projectile's diameter.
so, the vibration wouldn't be increasing the strength or resistance of the blade. What happens IRL with vibration at a molecular level is that it reduces the stability of what it is coming in to contact with. Assuming (taking a leap with the tech aspect here) the vibrations can tune to the resonant frequency of the impacted object within microseconds, it would separate the material it comes in to contact with, therefore increasing the cutting capacity. Another aspect i didn't hear you mention is that it would increase the amount of friction to the point of heating the object, depending on the frequency of the blade and ambient temp/cooling capacity of the object being cut. on the point of the mudhorn, imagine what happens when a bullet strikes something, the sound waves ripple within the object being struck. The same principle would apply with the vibroblade, though at a much higher frequency, effectively tearing apart the flesh of the creature, radiating away from the blade.
I was hunting for a resonant frequency comment. =) I completely agree. I feel like this makes more sense for what vibroblades are doing, and its how I always categorized them in my own head.
When it comes to “vibration” type blades, I tend to think about how sand behaves - hard packed sand is just about the next best thing to bedrock but add a little vibration and it behaves like a liquid. Now the sand particles are atoms or molecules and the blade is able to break those bonds like vibrating sand. Somehow ignoring the crazy amount of input/output energy that is involved in breaking those kinds of bonds... Flawed but I can wrap my brain around the idea
I saw the word sand and I physically can't read the rest of what you said because my brain can and will fill in the rest of it with anakin complaining about sand
A roto hammer uses vibration/rapid small strikes to drive the tip/blades/bit into concrete and through metal and all kinds of. So if the knife was made like a miniature roto hammer it absolutely could got though a ton of materials
Except that they have been for a lot longer than the mandaloirian, OR DID EVERYONE JUST FORGET THAT STAR WARS THE CLONE WARS IS CANNON? HOW IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE COMMADO DROIDS, WHICH WERE SOME OF THE FIRST TO USE IT IN CANNON?
@@shadowsnake5133 yeah i was thinking the exact same thing, dont mess with my awololloooolo boys (if you dont get that, go watch zannys battle front 2 videos)
@@shadowsnake5133 I know about Clone Wars the problem is, Disney does not particularly _like_ The Clone Wars show as evidenced by it's immediate cancellation after the acquisition. This is the first live action appearance of Vibro-weapons, my instinct is that disney execs and future filmmakers for Star Wars (if they aren't the tri-dynamo of Favreau, Filoni, and Lucas) will only reference things that have appeared in live action. Even then if the sequel trilogy is anything to go by they will reference those things only well after nearly destroying the ip.
@@stephennelson4954 but its still cannon, and thus should have been mentioned. Hell, the bx commando droids straight up use swords, and the design is quite different from other swords, so why not also go over that as well?
I arrive late, but I'm a simple man, loved the legends content, loved the ideas given to us there, but oh well, the memes were funny at least and then Grogu saved the franchise alongside MandoDad, Bobba and "HOLY GOD HE'S RIDING A RANCOR", also Shad....may I introduce you to star wars power hammers?
Or the pneumatic engraver, which is what I thought a vibro blade would be. It basically just hits the material with the edge very often basically like a mini chisel. Taken to the extreme it could become a knife that cuts easily with greatly reduced pressure applied. And maybe even upon contact, hit the material hard enough to send a shockwave that splits it farther than the point of contact.
24:37 the mandolorians actually started to use basically version of our guns as if they would block bullets, they get a lot of molten metal into their face....
What do you think sluggers are for. Melting Jedi and foes aline as armor can't do shit to stop that. As plasma blasters fuck ya up yes but can be sheilded.
@@lechking941 Because Science actually did a video on whether Lightsabers could block real bullets and he found that a lightsaber is capable of reducing basically any bullet into hot molten lead... directed at the blocker, it'd burn you like a sand-hating Sith Lords triple amputated body resting near the lava rivers of Mustafar! not pleasant! So yeah, Mandalorians are pretty smart people!
@@deinonychus1948 ye and besides the mandos the origionals before the human based we have now, they chose to go in a hail of glory as tge race was dying. But in return we get a faction so strong. That if you find a ship fo theirs floating and shows internally all the sifns of something going to fuck. You fear your life away because they are a pack fo TOUGH SON OF A B&TCHES so when they lose you fear the winner. Even if was 1000s of years ago.
Who do you think gave him the idea? If the military was willing to make experimental exploding bats to blow up sniper's nests, they definitely have murder tunes.
@@Mare_Man | Possibly? These ones were prototyped during WWI or WWII. The idea was to strap explosives to bats and set them free in an enemy-controlled area. They'd naturally go to roost in places that were both high-up and concealed, where you'd then blow them up. The fact that this loony idea made it into PROTOTYPING STAGE tells you all you need to know.
One tidbit to add is something I learned from archery hunter safety courses: With a properly-sharp broadhead, the arrow can pass completely through the target cleanly and the animal even bolt away for a few feet; the actual pain of impact is very light and more akin being hit by a stray pebble or a mild bee sting. Then the animal keels over due to blood-loss. Necropsies have found that in a radius up to six inches from the path of the arrow, veins and arteries are ruptured from the rapid trauma. If either theory that the ultrasonic vibration itself and/or focused sound waves is correct, it is entirely possible that the damage radius of a vibroblade in living tissue far exceeds the actual cut, thus a small blade that can’t physically reach vital arteries in a mudhorn’s neck could still traumatize the tissues enough to cause (near) instant death… or even instant death of that affected area effectively/sufficiently damages the spine… My own spitball of a theory that may or may not be canon either…
Wife: Hmmm... now where did I put that electric carving knife?
Meanwhile, Shad: let's try this out. It's for educational purposes.
I have the answers to his questions The first question yes it can cut mandalorian armor but it is still difficult or else we would not have so Mary people looking for besgar, the other question does vibration cut absolutely that is why is so useful and it also makes the object that you ar cutting have its molecular structure fragmented thanks to the vibration see a video of death battle wolverine vs rainden metalgier solid you will like how they explain vibrations in weapons
@@chosenofkhorne2951 BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
@@postaled BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
@@chosenofkhorne2951 RAAAAAAAGH!!!!!
@@chosenofkhorne2951 One problem with the vibrating weapons part of that Death Battle ep though. They are basing their words on the idea/theory that one can pass through solid objects if they vibrate their molecules fast enough (like The Flash from DC for example). However, this theory is not how physics work and is proven false. I learned this from one of Kyle Hill's vids on Becuause Science.
"Mom, the neighbor is shouting at the camera again!"
"It's alright, dear. Have you seen my electric carving knife?"
Made me snort, have your thumbs up
At least it wasn't a Sawzall. I was waiting forever to see a Sawzall, but only saw that butter knife!
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@@vixaus4846 | Is this a secret communist code? An alien transmission? A stroke?
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth ikr, hope to be notified on our top researchers and investigators progress on this
1:58 Because it's demonstrated it respects the source material. Favreux himself said that they're not trying to remake Star Wars. Star Wars is George Lucas' playground and they're just playing in it. The Sequel Trilogy ignored the source material, and in many ways mocked it and those who valued it, and when you spend your time shitting on the people you're trying to convince, you're not going to be that successful in convincing them.
Not going to be successful are kind words to describe that foolishness
Yeah I agree. On a surface level, ignoring fan fiction from the community and wade through all the fannon and still get hate for missing some smaller details is an idea that is very easy to accept, but Star wars is rather unique in that the community and fans have been filtering decades worth of ideas, concepts, and stories. Alot of the A grade gold material have raised to the top for Disney to pick and season for their use but noooo they scoop up the bones at the bottom and then dip them in some really odd flavors like wasabi and durian fruit. Some will like that kick, but most will just gag.
I also think it’s because of the legend that is Dave Filoni, someone who was heavily involved in both Clone wars and Rebels, which were both accepted and loved by the fans (Rebels perhaps a bit less)
George Lucas took credit for the hard work of other people. With them gone, best he could do was the prequels.
@@PasserMontanus yes and no. Between the original and prequel trilogy, George gave Star Wars the unique flavor that everyone loves. The biggest difference in the two sets is that there was no one to filter the strong flavors of George was pushing out and making sure everything in George's head translated properly onto the movie screen. George is an artist that didn't have someone keeping him on the canvas during that prequel stretch.
Fun Fact: when at war with the Jedi, the Mandalorions used bullets instead of blasters because Jedi couldn’t deflect them and it would turn the bullet into a shotgun round when it hit the lightsaber.
and then they essentially went "Ooo scatterguns" (the in universe shotgun) and used those as well. Even attached some to their armor so they couldnt be Force yanked away. Parry this you filthy casual!
“Perry this you fucking casual!”
*jedi shows up* “am force wizard”
*mandalorian loads shotgun shells* “shame”
The downside to projectiles was that a jedi with enough proficiency in the force could block them and even push them back.
"The Jedi can block lasers? Have fun with this buckshot."
-Mandalorians, probably
I just spent 30 minutes listening to an Australian talk about the legitimacy of an ancient/futuristic space-knife while dressed in authentic medieval garb and standing in front of a castle... yup, just a normal Friday.
Why welcome, I could also point you in the direction of a totally not supervillain who discusses what properties beskar has to make it so good.
Not everything in 2020 sucks
Jimbobalina1 absolutely. Shad is putting good vibes into the universe. Or should I say, ultrasonic vibes 😏😄
Haha i love it! God bless you all 🤣 Love you brothers and sisters
@@ericwolf9664 I'm not sure whether Kyle Hill or Mark Rober is the evil genius of youtube
"Honey I broke the electrical knife, trying to cut a wooden block with it"
"You're sleeping in the stables tonight."
@@afinoxi Funny part is that Shad might have stables on his property.
At least it wasn’t her other vibrating toy.
@JohanMDK I've never seen one, but for some reason, the idea of a Drop Bear is utterly terrifying. Like you're just walking your dog and 3 ton mound of fur and hate falls from the sky.
@starshipeleven Of course, it all makes sense now.
I love how shad points out his mistakes during editing rather than making cuts, really shows how he can get it wrong but wants to give correct information. Shows character of how dedicated to being accurate he is.
Does make me want to see a faster-than-slight sword now though
"And the reason why I accept The Mandalorian as canon is because-"
Me: "because it's actually good."
"It has respect for continuity and the expanded universe."
Me: "that's what I just said."
u know "mandalorian" isnt good and shad agrees with that notion?
@@hangyoutubeworkersandceos | "You know."
It's a subjective opinion, mate. You don't _know_ the show is bad, you only _think_ the show is bad. Just as I don't know the show is good, I only think it's good. As for what Shad thinks, his opinion is his own as well.
@@hangyoutubeworkersandceos it's better than the sequels by several Kessel Runs from what I've seen
@@deinonychus1948 and cardboard is better than actual shit. Now, would u like cardboard for dinner? Or actual food?
@@hangyoutubeworkersandceos dude that’s like saying shotgun round to the face or no shotgun to the face. Of course one would rather eat food than cardboard, that’s a general fact. But that is also an opinion as well, because dung beetles and certain types of animals would rather eat actual crap than food.
As for shows it’s still an opinion. Same with music.
Shad, a note on terminology. Ultrasonic: frequencies above human hearing. Supersonic: moving faster than the speed of sound (within the medium); produces sonic booms and shockwaves.
That would be the most badass knife ever.
*shad starts spinning his sword around*
*indie comes along and shoots him*
Shad deflects the bullet anyways.
@@Errtuabyss he needs to just flaunt his codpiece and the bullets will redirect themselves back to the shooter
It's not very effective...
@@afinoxi "Schlong-armour"
@@Errtuabyss Shad deflects the bullet, looks at his sword with an odd expression, then jumps into a lenghty rant about how that doesn't make any sense
Correction! Supersonic means faster than the speed of sound, but ultrasonic means higher in frequency than 20,000 Hz (upper limit of human hearing).
Yes. Ultra and infra is always referring to the wave length. Which makes it confusing that we use ultraviolet and infrared for light but no specifications for sound.
a blade vibrating at 20k Hz is quite a bit, it would probably deal quite a bit of damage
Thanks Chadggy
Thanks Chadggy
Yes, i was confused too. Something eg a knife that moves at a speed that exceeds the sound barrier will create sonic booms wont it? aka turns the knife into more of a concussion grenade more than a cutting tool.
Based on the canon (but not great) rebels animation, cross guarded light sabres did exist before kylo ren. They were phased out by single-exhaust blades for a couple reasons. When the sith were a lot more prominent, the jedi would frequently have to duel them, so cross guards proved very useful; however, once the sith were "defeated" the jedi order transitioned to a more ceremonial organization and lightsaber dueling became less of an emphasis during the 1000 or so years before the clone wars. Consequently, cross guards were removed because there were no sith to fight, and made light sabers more elegant as a status symbol.
Wasn't another explanation that a whole crystal couldn't do it? Kylo Ren's lightsaber crystal was confirmed to have been cracked and such, creating an unstable blade which needed excess ventilation. that was where the Crossguard came in for Kylo, not necessarily out of combat desire, but out of needing his saber to not explode.
@@weasel003gaming7we could accept both of these I suppose
they existed in the expanded universe as well
Physics student here. Imagine the vibrations arent just along the cutting angle. Consider a vibration outwards from the width of the blade instead of along the length. This causes very small temporary gaps along the material preventing it from clamping onto the knife. (much - it would still feel like sliding the knife through thick viscous material) This would also cause much more damage to organic material through micro tearing.
Also reduce the effect of a material wedging the blade in place... interesting.
That's some cool stuff
Agreed! You could almost imagine it like the flat of the blade slapping with material aside in a rapid fashion. I think this is actually how it's meant when they're talking about the blade cutting in a larger area than its cutting ratio. If the blade is vibrating sideways it would create a much wider gash. However that still probably wouldn't kill the mudhorn, you really do need that extra penetration to kill such a large animal.
*casually does a sword flurry*
Hello there.
General Shadobi!
I have been trained in your Hema arts by Count Skall!
169th...nice
@@samueltheblonde *shad casually helicopters two swords*
Also: there is an effect in real physics that if an object is hit by something that is moving at a speed exceeding the speed of sound inside the said object, the damage is much greater. You can think of it as of a sonic boom from a jet, but inside the body/armor. So if vibroblades are made of a material which has VERY high speed of sound and is extremely resilient, then very fast vibrations of the blade could induce sonic booms inside the target, explaning the whole "massive damage from a nick" thing. Actually, this effect is exactly why modern day militaries try to develop railguns, as their muzzle velocity can be sufficient to cause such sonic booms in steel.
I like this explanation. So when they describe the vibrations as being hyper sonic, it's not just super sonic in the air, but super sonic in some materials you want to cut through, like flesh.
So then what would be the passive effect of a vibroblade in its surrounding environment?
@@josephschneeweiss6635 it would be loud.
"Object shake fast, pass thing good, big boom"
@@Nostroman_Praetor it's basically what you see in those old samurai movies when the protagonist cuts someone hands clean off, but instead of that "xiiing" like sound, you will hear a huge explosion.
So basically the best way to reason how it would sound is imagining what a samurai movie directed by Michael Bay would be like. 🤣🤣🤣
So interestingly enough, the cross guard on Kylo's lightsaber is explained by his crystal being unstable, so it needs exhaust points for it to not blow up in his hands, which also shows and explains the flair of his saber unlike others.
Exactly
Which would also imply at least one lightsaber did explode in his hands, necessitating this completely new tech to split the blade.
@@yogurtofthemultiverse2200 not necessarily. That means he knew better, or whoever made the saber did.
The crystal is cracked, which is why it was unstable.
@@yogurtofthemultiverse2200 It may have happened before but that is mostly sw legends and that sorta stuff, around the time on the old republic and before that as well lightsaber technology wasn't perfected enough. These lightsabers like Kylo's would be more common in between the use of Protosabers and the more modern lightsabers.
But this isn't the first time a cracked crystal is seen, we see it in the Firce Unleashed as well, although it is single exhaust that's probably due to the default model not because it's possible but if TFU becomes Canon again or if it has (idk anymore) that means you don't need the vents per se
"Vibrates faster than the speed of light."
Good thing you caught yourself in the editing or every comment would be referencing that line.
Best part is that ultra-sonic in no way refers to the speed of sound, but in fact the *_frequency_* which is inaudible to humans on the high-frequency side of the spectrum (I would imagine infra-sonic is the term for inaudible on low side?). So he said it wrong both pre and post-edit
@@feha92 He really didn't say it wrong, techically. Moving objects at ultrasonic frequencies CAN exceed the speed of sound. It's not the definition. But they aren't mutually exclusive either.
If you moved a blade one inch back and forth 20.000 times a second, it would be breaking the sound barrier at an ultrasonic frequency. And that's just at the lowest possible ultrasonic frequency, you'd obviously need shorter and shorter distance at higher frequencies.
@@whynotdean8966 But he did actually. Ultrasound is sound that is beyond human hearing. Sound always travels at the same speed regardless of frequency. The speed depends on the medium and nothing else. Whether or not the membrane of a speaker is moving faster than sound as it vibrates with ultrasonic frequency just depends on the distance it's travelling, so it may or it may not. Ultrasonic does not equal faster than sound.
@@mrkiky You just repeated what I said, apart from the fact that utrasonic CAN be faster than speed of sound.
@@whynotdean8966 The point is the word "ultrasonic" makes no reference to velocity.
Normal person: *unsheathes sword*
Shad: *does a 5760 casually*
Normal person trives the same: ends up kneeling in a ditch while looking for his head
Neighbors : " honey he's outside talking to the camera again and he's wearing his medieval armor. "
To truly get at Shad, I would say, "wearing his studded leather armour."
"Honey, he swings around a knife infront of the camera."
To be fair, if you lived next to a mini-castle, you should really expect that sort of thing...
@@TheDevian ... and feel thankful that he's not specialised in explosives.
@@Seele2015au It might not be explosive, but once you see him digging tunnels towards your house be wary of attempts to collapse them by setting the wooden reinforcements inside on fire. Or when a wall is build around your home to starve you out...
Hey Shad loved the video! A little comment I have is to clarify the difference between supersonic and ultrasonic. Supersonic refers to something moving through a medium faster than a sound wave can. Ultrasonic refers to the frequency of a vibration or wave being above the audible range. The ultrasonic vibrations mean that the blade is vibrating at a frequency above 20khz
Underrated post!
Shad, you had the best description of the sequels I’ve ever heard
I was just thinking that!
Have your feelings about an overrated sci-franchise been validated by a YT rando you'll never meet? Will you sleep calmly tonight?
@@PasserMontanus Bra
@@PasserMontanus why are you like this. Go be a turd else where
@@someone-pz4dg oh so it isn’t just me who thinks Passer is a pile of diarrhoea
Shad: they could be moving faster than the speed of light
me: WHAT
!!
Shad: i mean sound
me: ok
Still more plausable of a weapon than hyperspace ramming.....
He’s still wrong, but he’s corrected to the right phenomena.
@@Colonel_Overkill Hyperspace is basically like warping and traveling through another dimension that shortens the voyage I feel like that was clear as day at this point.
It breaks the world because why wouldn't this be used as a weapon more often?
Man a ship with hyerdrive with droids and you're all set.
@@kennethsatria6607 Don't even need to man a ship, literally just make hyperdrive rockets.
@@kennethsatria6607 I heard a theory that the hyperspace ramming was only effective because the first order ship (the name of it escapes me) had hyperspace tracking, so it had a hyperspace shadow.
They would've needed to explain that though. Also aimed at @Colonel Overkill
That awkward moment where a vibroblade broke the speed of light, went back in time and cut you.
I used one years ago to cut my kid's birthday cake. Turns out I accidentally stabbed his kid last week. Christmas dinner was real awkward after that.
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth god hay I just found out I have just need hiters right testocal from use of one so I'm the reason he only has one... I do not understand this but I atlest killed that thug trying to rob me.
@@lechking941 | ...what now? I didn't catch any of that.
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth time fuckery. And removal of a testical.
The knife is one with the speed force
Crossguards were shown in the Rebels animated series, implying that prior to the Old Republic this type of lightsaber was somewhat common. Basically it's JJ doing gimmicks and Filoni doing the heavy lifting.
Those cross guards do nothing tho since it would just cut right through the body and destroy the saber, even kylos should get cut if you hit at the t joint
@@Abysalss you realise there is still lightsaber blade in that T section if they cut it it would only go halfway through do you think there is no blade and then randomly one only coming out the end
The earliest piece of material I have found with a crossguard is one of the Clone Wars comics from 2004. On the legends wookiepedia it is the picture under under the variations category.
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber/Legends
@@Abysalss "The bits coming off the sides are just casings around the little beams to protect your hands, so even if someone cuts through the metal they're gonna hit the beam, any Padawan knows that!"
I may have butchered that quote like a room full of Jedi younglings but you get the idea
@@deinonychus1948 According to the anatomy schematic of the crossguard saber (which apparently exists Lol), it being struck on the crossguard would cut through the outer casing and directly into the emitters that project the crossguard's blades, they're not solid all the way through on the inside.
Evidently the existence of that for his saver (in the movies) are specifically to balance off the damaged crystal's power, not for the novelty of blocking. Otherwise I assume the saber would explode :p
You know Shad's a real Aussie when he has a Bowie knife.
A knife named after an american?
@@robertharris6092
Old school Aussies love the Bowie knife and fun fact: The Bowie knife was actually designed and first invented in Sheffield, England. Then it spread throughout the UK commonwealth and eventually got to America. The only reason it's called a Bowie knife is because it's most famous user was Jim Bowie.
@@robertharris6092 after a japanese salary man with a hand fetish you mean
This is a 'nife
ya got a loiscense for that knoife?
Ultrasonic vibrating blades actually exist IRL, they are used in industry to cut soft and elastic materials like sandwich bread or foam insulation.
@L Train 45 pfft
There actually are ultrasonic cutters, that are being used to cut through really tough materials. I work for a company called Telsonic in Switzerland and we specialize in ultrasonic applications (mostly welding, but other applications too). Our cutting systems are quite large and not as small as a normal knife, but the technology has been invented and it's super effective.
I have used an ultrasonic version of basically an exacto knife and it cuts super easily through most materials and part of that is based on the heat it generates. You can cut easily through plastics because the blade basically melts its way through with the friction it generates.
Very small vibration blades also do exist though they don't really have much usage. They are mainly very fancy and expensive paper cutters.
Shad:
[Sees a Mandalorian]
*give him a sword! That vibrates!*
Metal gear rising: im 4 paralel universes ahead of you
Don’t forget the Progressive Knives from Evangelion!
“The sequels are just bad fanfiction made by a soulless corporation”
Shad is freaking King!
I agree with him thought it's just a fan fic by a corp.
@@lechking941 So "soulless" is implied, or you don't believe they're soulless?
But..Was star wars always like that?
@@NinjabeeRedtricity nope there would need to be a lore that star wars would be based on so it is not a fan fiction Disney made a fan fiction because Star Wars already existed before Disney ruined it
@@the_mushroom_lad4643 Every Star Wars property made after the first movie is fanfiction based on your logic
"I don't know how sound waves are created by vibration."
That's how musical instruments work Shad, the vibration of a material is used to produce sound.
Side note, I always thought that vibroblades worked by vibrating molecules to split them apart, your theory of using sound waves _sounds_ really fresh. (I'll show myself out)
Reminds me of the Progressive Knife from Evangelion.
I giggled.
Vibrating air pressure... so doing exactly what he said minus the understanding.
Brigandine, katana and bowie knife. Shad is clearly an immortal who's lived across time in different cultures.
Just wait until he starts shouting : There can be only one !!
Don’t forget those +2 agility battle sneakers he wears with his armor.
There can be only one!
Mr Worldwide
and mid 20th century style electric carving knife, and early 21st century lavalier mic
future anthropologists are either going to be charmed, "a history nerd just like us" or hopelessly confused, "sacred... priceless... family... heirlooms...? from an era of disposable consumption?? fucket, he's a time lord"
8:21 "ultrasonic" is for describe the frequency of sound, not it's speed which depends on the material
Specifically a frequency above human hearing range.
The cutting/destructive capacity of a vibroblade's shock wave would depend on what is being cut. A shock wave passing through water (or in anything made mostly of water) is going to retain its energy over a much greater distance due to the incompressibility of water as compared to air. This can be used to explain a weapon that causes massive damage to flesh (due to the vibrations destroying delicate tissues like blood vessels, yet causes no damage until the blade makes physical contact and has relatively little effect on other materials such as metal.
Shad: the example of a SWORD....
*engages extreme finesse*
He said that with the imperial authority of a thousand year old aristocrat
Reminded me of kotors sword spin when you engage with hostiles
I like the flourish but I love his little “M’kay?” direct;y afterward
Obi Wan: *pulls out a mostly-clean sawzall "A more elegant weapon for a more civilized age"
Plot twist: Darth Vader then pulls out a 2x4.
Home Depot intensifies
*reads once*
Huh that's nice. Guess I'll like.
*reads again*
WDYM 'MOSTLY'
You seem to be ignoring the effect high speed impact has on tissue. High velocity bullets cause hydrostatic shock and damage organs that are not affected by the bullets path. The vibroblade could have a similar effect.
Is that how Raiden can cut thru an entire Metal Gear?
@@bazookaboss332 no thats just rules of nature
that doesnt happen,bullet has a lot of energy because it is heavy and send with high speed,but vibroblade only vibrate less than 1cm,even if its high speed it wont load a lot of energy while its moving
@@fredbarnes2600 No, you wouldn't need to be superhuman to wield it. What are you even talking about? Vibroblades are a real thing and you don't need anything special to wield them or use them effectively.
@@lolowski6826 my mistake
The Mandolorian is living proof that you do not need an epic 3 billion ship space battle or a super convoluted plot to be a good star wars show/movie, it's simply better quality in all aspects than the "Fanfictions"
these days I prefer stories on a smaller scale. We already have a lot of the worldbuilding done on a galactic level, I would rather just watch people going through their own problems within this galaxy, like the bounty hunters or a soldier or even just a singular Jedi or a Master/Padawan duo without it being "the fate of the galaxy"
So much this. It’s simply because it is objectively better to the extent that some art can be objectively better than other art.
I haven't watched those "fan fictions" yet I do think there's a place for both the small and large scale things. When you make it big and fancy though it would be a good idea not to just rely on pretty special effects and combine it with a compelling story that (mostly) makes sense.
@@extrastuff9463 yep, I agree that both big movies and special effects and the like have a place, just like slow and easy shows.
What I’m implying is that the “fanfics” rely to much on that to compensate for horrible plot and ridiculous character choices.
>Remembers that Shad is a regular guest on EFAP.
>Remembers EFAPs generally low opinion of The Mandalorian.
Hmmmmmm....
Drinking game: take a sip every time Shad draws or holsters his knife in this video.
RIP my liver
dido
I guess so, I'm on a bit of a bender
No thanks, I like not blacking out
Why is my hat doing the macarena? HiC
Can we get some F's in chat for Shad when his wife finds out he broke the electric knife?
I'm sure he'll find *something* they can carve the Christmas turkey with...
Zweihänder would be my second choice
F
"I don't consider the new trilogy canon"
Man, almost wish I wasn't subscribed just so I could subscribe for that line.
Greetings, fellow Nonhuman Sentience! May I suggest you subscribe to Just Some Bigfoot With Internet Access? He's got this sort of community subbed to him of us sentient beings not usually considered sentient or real by humans.
Also, alt accounts.
Wouldn't a knife that vibrates faster than sound make deafening noise, vibrate your hand to the point of being painful or even dangerous to hold, and get really hot from friction?
Not necessarily.
First of all, if it vibrates faster than 20 kHz or so, it would be producing ultrasound which is inaudible to humans (it's basically the sound version of UV light).
Similarly, the nerves in your hand wouldn't be able to feel something vibrating at those speeds. It might get uncomfortable to hold after a while, but the vibration itself wouldn't be able to be directly felt.
Finally, moving things only produce a lot of heat if there is a lot of friction. There are plenty of ways to reduce friction (lubricant, magnetic bearings, etc.), and the heat that does get produced can be absorbed by heatsinks, and could be limited by only using the vibration function whenever you're actually trying to cut something with it.
@@awareqwx How would you stop it from rattling the bones in your hands to the point of shattering them?
@@PossumReviews Vibration-proof gloves. They make them in the real world for daily users of power tools and things like that, roadwork crews and such. They really do help - though naturally it would have to be Super Space Vibration-Proof.
@@PossumReviews it could vibrate at a frequency higher than the natural frequency of your bones. That would prevent them from shattering
Dampening handles.
I just wanted to hear an Aussie say, "This is a knife!"
*knoife*
That's funny but anyone younger than 30 probably won't get it.
@@sidrat2009 Most people under 30. Under 30's who are Australian probably get it
I remember Clint Eastwood saying that! ;)
I got that reference.
You actually would actually want "z" plane vibration to help separate material. The extensive damage would mostly be due to cavitation much like firearms.
Beat me too it. Basically a form of hydrostatic shock applied to knives.
This would also explain the mudhorn death, as it would slice... deeper I guess in terms of the blade. Interesting concept honestly.
@Billy Oak ah damn that's shit sounds brutal as hell to pull back out though, hell.
really? I figured that that would just eff up edge alignment.
@Billy Oak god that sounds evil and makes a gaping hole so blood gushing that you vic wod die just from nearly any place. Oh and those spikes are mearly a centimetre long.
Shad has this strange ability to make me ponder stuff about absolutely everything while giving me enough background to make a half-assed educated guess of my own and amuse myself at the same time. He has what it takes to make a great teacher!
"But personally for me I don't even consider the sequel trilogy star wars canon"
*Subscribes*
You weren’t already?
I did that
@@albusvoltavern4500 I subscribed after the "boob armor" episode.
@Jesus mf Christ bewbs
there is only one trilogy, the other stuff is sjw fanfiction.
me, a musician: so a really sharp tuning fork
@cak01vej I understand what you mean, however the sound waves concentrate at the open end of the tuning fork and are very directional. They are so directional that people have used tuning forks to shatter glass, but it would only work when the open end of the fork was pointed at the glass.
I wonder what note a vibroblade would give, if rested against Beskar armor...
Ah yes now I can tune my flute and my war cries as I run into battle
"Reduce friction along the sides of the blade."
Step 1: Cover the blade in oil.
Are you some kinda Witcher?
Imagine a vibrosword covered in a flammable oil. Some one jumps you and suddenly your sword just bursts into flame.
It would scare the shit out of less advanced species
Step 2: wait for it to rain
Step: 3: throw knife
Step 4: anti-aircraft melee weapon
@@masonwilliams1345 it would probably also destroy your blade. tempered metal doesn't like getting hot, and fire, surprisingly, makes things hot.
@@Santisima_Trinidad if Beskar and Cortosis can resist lightsabers I doubt some normal fire will do much to the blade.
Very interesting analysis. One thought that came to mind about a vibroblade wedging and getting stuck in material as a limitation, what if the blade also has a small lateral vibration? The blade is literally slapping the material out to the sides as well in that instance, which would vastly reduce friction in a cut without the crazy sound wave cutting having to be necessary.
One thing he doesn't seem to know is that vibroblades are not science fiction, they really do exist.
Their main benefit is exactly that they don't get stuck. They are mainly for use with complex material that straight cutting blades tend to get stuck in like paper and certain polymers.
@@MrMarinus18 Im not familiar with this real life comparison, what are the irl vibroblades called?
Shad: 'Anything live action is canon'
George Lucas: Hides Star Wars Holiday Special.
Fun fact: Boba Fett debuted in the Holiday Special, and by extension the whole Mandalorian race. Please let it sink in that The Mandalorians existence began with the Star Wars Holiday Special.
@@eedwardgrey2 Fun Little Known Fact: Bobba Fett made his actual first appearance in real life: in a parade in september 24th 1978, to be exact, predating the Star Wars Holiday Special.
@@Harrowed2TheMind cool!
Happy Life Day!
George's own words. The films are the main universe. Video games, books, comics, all never were considered Canon, and were part of their own separate universe.
However TCW is Canon, as was directly supervised by George himself, and they incorporated a lot of EU aspects, thus making them Canon.
Dave is doing the same with Mandalorian, bringing old EU lore and bringing it to Canon under Disney's nose.
I really like how Shad is obviously getting better after his operation.
I mean, look at him flourishing.
Havent heard of it. Was it something serious?
I like when Shad knows his video will likely bring in new viewers so he starts showing off. For example 5:22.
"Can sound cut?"
Please do the Dune movie weirding modules!
"My name is a killing word."
Usul no longer needs the weirding module
Speaking of movies breaking canon...
A reason that vibroblades can't cut outside their length could be that it's not using sound in the air, it's using sound in the material they're cutting to tear it to pieces before the blade actually gets to it. This would explain the increased cutting, especially with the more inconsistent material of mudhorn neck, and would allow for vibroblades to damage beskar in the cases where it is at the resonant frequency of the piece of armor.
When Shad references KOTOR. This is the way
Vibroblades are great... until you get a lightsaber of ANY kind lol
@@deinonychus1948 yeah, I used a lightsaber and poison blade combo that helped with dps a lot
He still hasn’t seen clone wars lol
@@deinonychus1948 nah the baragwin assault blade is pretty good
This is the way.
“The sequels are just bad fanfiction made by a soulless corporation”
Shad is an ally, friends!
Da Moouse will mobilize teh woke to cancel him
Classic Star Trek and Star Wars fans unite in their shared suffering!
AMEN
Lol, yeah thank god
I mean...there's no such thing as good fanfiction most of the time...and anything is better than those shitty novels and comics. Well, not anything...the sequels were pretty bad. Not as bad as some think...but then the originals aren't as good as some think, either.
Little detail about the vibro blade. If you cut electronics with it, the blade will conduct electricity to the electronics in the handle of the blade. This will cause it to explode inside your hand.
Shadiversity " If this is the way that Vibroblades work....."
Me: " This is the way"
this is the way
This Is The Way
This is the way
This is the way
I’m really surprised no one has been dumb and said do you know da wae
Real world cutting limitations explained. That's why I love this channel.
Shad: "if this is the way a vibroblade works..."
Me: *"This is the way"*
Shad has spoken.
Something like a Vibroblade actually exists irl, they are huge and incredibly expensive, but they can cut through steel like butter
Can I see an example?
@@smergthedargon8974 bro theres literally little saws made to cut wood that vibrate to do it so fast. Go to literally any hardware store. Theres your example.
@@smergthedargon8974 oscillating saws cut through wood and nails easily
@@smergthedargon8974 ultrasonic knife look it up it already exists
So ultrasonic generators by a different name exist, i use them professionally. Al ot of people do. Ultrasonic on metal have an interesting effect. With enough power you can weld with it. Even cold. The problem is you would end up merging the dagger to like metals. This teck is used for wire bonds in your cell phone or computer processor
Shad "the technology for vibro blades doesn't exist"
Hacksmith "hold my lightsaber"
Yes!
It's not a lightsaber, though. It's cool, but still just a glorified blowtorch.
@@operatorchakkoty4257 Facts
if I were to try to make a vibroblade IRL I'd just make a really tiny jackhammer and use the tang of the knife as the bit.
@@operatorchakkoty4257 I mean yeah, but we don't have the technology to make a REAL lightsaber.
"The sequels are just poorly written fan fictions made by a soulless corporation." Couldn't have said it better myself.
Except they were not fans, just haters of fans.
I've seen some weird fangirl fiction mangas that are better written than the sequels
I could write a better fanfiction when I was in High School
I have read fan fiction that would have made such an amazing trilogy compared to what we got
the first one was okay not great but not terrible the other 2 made the holiday special look well thought out
For some additional information to this, there already exist ultrasonic cutters with high application in factory settings for food prep and textile cutting. Normally you don't see them cutting metal, but there is some indication that they can cut metal since the ultrasonic cutter from Mxmoonant is advertised as being able to cut aluminum. It is not quite a vibroblade, but it is push-dagger sized so real life is getting quite close. Combined with an earlier comment from @ankokuraven about ultrasonic homogenization, it seems promising that vibroblades could exist.
Something that contradicts technology in the real world
Palpatine: Fiction is a pathway to many things some consider to be unnatural.
For the Mudhorn scene what I always thought was that when he stabbed the mudhorn, that the Vibroblade vibrated the mudhorns flesh and bones, rupturing its arties, spinal cord and maybe even scrambling the brain. Not that it was cutting deeper but that the vibration turned the things insides into a smoothy
In clone wars it's also shown that the blade carries an electrical charge, so it can theoretically short out someone's nervous system like a taser/stungun would but to a lethal degree
Yeah, that was my thought too. Not necessarily an enhanced mechanical cutting action, but some sort of energy transfer to the target.
@@michaelfranciotti3900 that...that is just so so brutal..and efficient
Also, this made me think of something that I read about power swords in w40k (can't remember if this was from official material or the comment section). But supposedly, power swords emit some sort of magnetic type of energy that puts tension on the material, pushing it away from itself at the edge of the blade. Imagine trying to cut a rope normally, you'd have to apply a sawing action. Now imagine 2 trucks pulling on either end, all you'd have to do is barely touch the edge to it and it'll snap apart. I always wondered if the tech applied to all types of materials (flesh) or just anything metallic/magnetic. Any w40k nerds here?
"I don´t consider the new trilogy canon, just really bad fan-fiction..." LOL
Words to live by
It's the exact same way I think of them.
Honestly, as somebody who loved TLJ, RoS broke my heart - and yet now, I'm kinda glad. RoS, crazy as it sounds, healed the divide in the fanbase. If Rian Johnson had been given Ep9, we'd probably all still be arguing over whether the Sequels were masterpieces or trash, but thanks to Abrams, Disney and unnecessary Palpatine, we can all just agree that yeah, the trilogy sucked. I can't even gather the energy to caveat that with how great I thought the first 2/3rds of TLJ were. TLJ was a problem because it was creative and interesting and didn't care who it pissed off to tell the story it wanted to tell. RoS isn't a problem, because it was bland, milquetoast nothingness - you'd have to be lobotomised to not see it as a soulless wreck of a movie. RoS is laughable, not divisive, and that has actually helped us all move on.
George Lucas, Dave Filoni, and Jean Favereau would agree with you
Don’t we all?
"A really bad fanfic mad by a soulless corporation." Ya, that pretty much sums it up.
Don't let him know that in Rebels Ezra finds an ancient lightsaber with a crossguard.
and that high republic is having some (at least concept art) crossbladed lightsabres.
I am always surprised by how many people forget about that
Rebels is shit
Well that’s not even practical cause you can cut your fingers off cause the guard is made of lightsaber
@@spacetacos7574 of you point the crossguard diagonally upward and put bars on the first part it would actually be effective
"Medieval Man discovers modern technology" - alt title
Yes
What is this sequel trilogy that everyone keeps talking about? There's only six numbered movies
That’s the spirit
don't forget the ONE AND ONLY spin off movie rogue one.
@@garetnuite3508 Rogue. "Rouge" means "red" in French.
@@garetnuite3508 I liked "Solo" tbh 🤷♂️
No? There’s 9, The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command
Two things:
First, the Mandalorian is basically a space cowboy, and the series basically falls into the genre of space western.
And, generally speaking, cowboys didn’t usually carry swords. Usually a knife, but that’s equally for utility.
Second, in the Mandalorian, he DOES get a sword in season 2 by way of “The Dark Saber”, which is basically the Mandalorian Excalibur.
A knife that shakes inside the wound is like twisting the knife 20 times per second.
no not really
Then you got the crocodile Dundee Vito blade machetes that the commando droids use
100 times per second, in most of the world. 120 times per second in North America. At least when I'm carving the turkey.
Couldn’t the vibrating help prevent it from getting stuck/help unstick it? Particularly if there is lateral vibration (side to side)
Good point!
@@shadiversity 'obelisk' means 'point cutter' they were made out of this material ruclips.net/video/VbyxFtxmbTA/видео.html
One of the problem though between cutting flesh and cutting hard materials is the difference in flexibility. If the material on either side of the blade cannot be pushed back any further, then the edge of the blade will not have enough space to make as deep a cut before it is trapped in by friction.
@@shadiversity Vibroblades are not fictional. They really do exist. They are used on complex materials where you normally need sawing or a lot of force but you want to cut it cleanly. The most common use of ultrasonic cutters is actually surgery where making a clean cut into the body without causing as little flesh ripping as possible is very important.
They are also used when cutting cloth by hand as they allow you to cut it fairly accurate with less of the fibers getting torn and ruffled.
Ultra sonic vibrations on a blade would absolutely cause damage beyond the area of the cutting surface. The vibrations of the blade cause the blade to move extremely fast. That fast moving blade will impact the flesh with a high velocity creating a lot of force. Force that will travel further through the flesh than otherwise.
The edge can cause a cut and the vibration would tear the cut open.
It can also cause burns due to the energy input. We have a tool like that in surgery that both cuts and cauterises the cut tissue.
Yeah, I assume it’s the same principle as trying to tear a piece of laminated paper. If you just try to tear it you won’t make any progress, but if you make a small cut on the edge, the same force you put in is able to tear through the whole sheet.
Ultra sonic blade could well cause cavitation bubbles within the body, and those would cause all kinds of damage.
I completely disagree with this statement.
Ultra sonic knives are a real thing that are uses in industry all the time.
Every time you buy a pre portioned slice of cake (in a supermarket) it is likely cut by an ultra sonic cutter.
I defy you to cut a cleaner slice of cake with a regular blade.
I always imagined their cutting power deriving from the force of the vibrations rendering nearby matter porous, essentially liquifying a small ammount of matter around the surface area of the blade, allowing it to keep sliding forward
"Parry this you filthy casual" -> proceeds to unleash flamethrower
“Really bad fan fiction made by a soulless corporation.” Immediate like for that one.
i've been saying this since TFA came out, glad to finally find others who agree.
Yep
@@EvelynNdenial TFA was ok I guess but the rest do not exist
YES! DOWN WITH DISNEY!
actually some of Disney's star wars stuff is good.
5:30 “A sword” twirly twirly twirly.... me: “I could do that! Show off!” Me 30 seconds later “babe, I need to go to the ER”
I am jelly of him on that show off.
People who played Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
"I K N O W M O R E T H A N Y O U"
I'm glad at least one other person here points out the similarities between vibroblades and High Frequency modified swords from MGR:R.
Might as well put a RULES OF NATURE! here to show my thanks.
IN THE END, I REALIZE-YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME-TRYING TO WRITE HISTORY!
@@MercenaryJames VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE
AND IN THE END IT HAS TO BE THIS WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY
If any game needs a sequel it's that one...
Love the reference to KOTOR. So many good memories. Back when canon and lore actually meant something.
Who else remembers seeing vibroblades being used by the commando droids in Star Wars: The Clone Wars?
What about vibro hidden blade used by Republic Commando
What about the episode with Hando, ahsoka, and the younglings too
@@z1maass727 Those were my favourites. I was soo stoked to see Bo-Katan using a similar weapon in The Mandalorian. Glad that and Battlefront 2 finally brought that weapon into canon.
I don't recall them having the "vibrating" effect in Clone Wars, so it's hard to tell if they were vibroblades or just conventional.
@@NathanielMiller starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Vibrosword/Legends?file=HalfedCommandoDroid.png
"If you do a draw cut" I UNDERSTAND SAMURAI MOVEMENTS BETTER NOW.
Wait, star wars? Sure, star wars!
As overrated as they are they still did very much knew what they where doing
Zakley
ruclips.net/video/Lrfpjriop48/видео.html
Two ideas for future videos based on this one.
1. Vibro-pikes were seen in return of the jedi, by Palpatine's royal (red) guards, we just didn't see them used. What are Shad's thoughts on vibro-pikes or vibro-lances?
2. Metal Gear Solid 2 introduced a HF (high frequency) blade, a katana that vibrated enough to increase damage and also allowed the user to block bullets. I want to see Shad talk about that weapon!
I'm commenting this at around 12 minutes into the video so you might mention it, but something to consider is hydrostatic shock. Even though some projectiles aren't sharp, the wounds that they leave tend to be much larger than their immediate surface of contact because the velocity causes fluid to displace. In ballistics gel, faster projectiles tend to leave a massive temporary cavity viewed under slow motion and a permanent cavity that is still larger than the projectile's diameter.
so, the vibration wouldn't be increasing the strength or resistance of the blade. What happens IRL with vibration at a molecular level is that it reduces the stability of what it is coming in to contact with. Assuming (taking a leap with the tech aspect here) the vibrations can tune to the resonant frequency of the impacted object within microseconds, it would separate the material it comes in to contact with, therefore increasing the cutting capacity.
Another aspect i didn't hear you mention is that it would increase the amount of friction to the point of heating the object, depending on the frequency of the blade and ambient temp/cooling capacity of the object being cut.
on the point of the mudhorn, imagine what happens when a bullet strikes something, the sound waves ripple within the object being struck. The same principle would apply with the vibroblade, though at a much higher frequency, effectively tearing apart the flesh of the creature, radiating away from the blade.
I was hunting for a resonant frequency comment. =) I completely agree. I feel like this makes more sense for what vibroblades are doing, and its how I always categorized them in my own head.
When it comes to “vibration” type blades, I tend to think about how sand behaves - hard packed sand is just about the next best thing to bedrock but add a little vibration and it behaves like a liquid. Now the sand particles are atoms or molecules and the blade is able to break those bonds like vibrating sand. Somehow ignoring the crazy amount of input/output energy that is involved in breaking those kinds of bonds... Flawed but I can wrap my brain around the idea
I saw the word sand and I physically can't read the rest of what you said because my brain can and will fill in the rest of it with anakin complaining about sand
@@linhardtvonhevring805 can ya blame ‘em? It gets everywhere
@@Jack-ts4wq And it's so course and irritating
It also tastes really good, beeter for food than anything else
After your explanation about sound actually being able to cut through things, Black Canary's scream just became a lot more deadly.
True
A roto hammer uses vibration/rapid small strikes to drive the tip/blades/bit into concrete and through metal and all kinds of. So if the knife was made like a miniature roto hammer it absolutely could got though a ton of materials
Vibrio axes were in episode 6, just weren’t activated by the Grimorian guards at jabbas palace
Weren’t the Gamorreans fighting in the first episode of this season also using Vibro axes?
@@aaronrivas7977 Yep
@@aaronrivas7977 yes they culturally like melee over blasters
I'm just glad they're finally official cannon.
Except that they have been for a lot longer than the mandaloirian, OR DID EVERYONE JUST FORGET THAT STAR WARS THE CLONE WARS IS CANNON? HOW IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE COMMADO DROIDS, WHICH WERE SOME OF THE FIRST TO USE IT IN CANNON?
@@shadowsnake5133 yeah i was thinking the exact same thing, dont mess with my awololloooolo boys
(if you dont get that, go watch zannys battle front 2 videos)
@@shadowsnake5133 I know about Clone Wars the problem is, Disney does not particularly _like_ The Clone Wars show as evidenced by it's immediate cancellation after the acquisition.
This is the first live action appearance of Vibro-weapons, my instinct is that disney execs and future filmmakers for Star Wars (if they aren't the tri-dynamo of Favreau, Filoni, and Lucas) will only reference things that have appeared in live action.
Even then if the sequel trilogy is anything to go by they will reference those things only well after nearly destroying the ip.
@@jamesbarnett8832 and even more, THEY USE ACTUAL SWORDS! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THEIR BLADES, WHY IS HE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM?
@@stephennelson4954 but its still cannon, and thus should have been mentioned. Hell, the bx commando droids straight up use swords, and the design is quite different from other swords, so why not also go over that as well?
Man, check ultrasonic cutters. We need sequel for this video.
Very interesting. Seems mostly used for plastic and similar substances, though.
I arrive late, but I'm a simple man, loved the legends content, loved the ideas given to us there, but oh well, the memes were funny at least and then Grogu saved the franchise alongside MandoDad, Bobba and "HOLY GOD HE'S RIDING A RANCOR", also Shad....may I introduce you to star wars power hammers?
Shadiversity: "I don't know how sound waves are generated by vibrations.
Sound waves: Literally vibrations.
Probably meant how to focus it onto a point?
So in short they combined a blade with one of your girlfriend's "toys"
Check out the "harmonic scalpel"
Addition: or electrosurgery
Or ultrasonic welding its more like the second thesis that Shad makes
Or the pneumatic engraver, which is what I thought a vibro blade would be. It basically just hits the material with the edge very often basically like a mini chisel. Taken to the extreme it could become a knife that cuts easily with greatly reduced pressure applied. And maybe even upon contact, hit the material hard enough to send a shockwave that splits it farther than the point of contact.
24:37 the mandolorians actually started to use basically version of our guns as if they would block bullets, they get a lot of molten metal into their face....
What do you think sluggers are for. Melting Jedi and foes aline as armor can't do shit to stop that. As plasma blasters fuck ya up yes but can be sheilded.
@@lechking941 Because Science actually did a video on whether Lightsabers could block real bullets and he found that a lightsaber is capable of reducing basically any bullet into hot molten lead... directed at the blocker, it'd burn you like a sand-hating Sith Lords triple amputated body resting near the lava rivers of Mustafar! not pleasant!
So yeah, Mandalorians are pretty smart people!
@@deinonychus1948 ye and besides the mandos the origionals before the human based we have now, they chose to go in a hail of glory as tge race was dying. But in return we get a faction so strong. That if you find a ship fo theirs floating and shows internally all the sifns of something going to fuck. You fear your life away because they are a pack fo TOUGH SON OF A B&TCHES so when they lose you fear the winner. Even if was 1000s of years ago.
The thing is, the wookieepedia article you used was in the legends section. So it may work completely differenty in canon.
Shad: 12:04
The US Military: **WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN**
Who do you think gave him the idea?
If the military was willing to make experimental exploding bats to blow up sniper's nests, they definitely have murder tunes.
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth Do you mean the incendiary bats we were gonna use against Japan's mostly wood and paper buildings?
Patrick star playing tic-tac-toe in a small notepad
@@Mare_Man | Possibly? These ones were prototyped during WWI or WWII. The idea was to strap explosives to bats and set them free in an enemy-controlled area. They'd naturally go to roost in places that were both high-up and concealed, where you'd then blow them up.
The fact that this loony idea made it into PROTOTYPING STAGE tells you all you need to know.
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth we also had kamikaze pigeons as well as the bomber bats.
Don’t forget about the commando droids who used them
Or the Emperors guards who had vibro pikes
5:22 Shads Ultimate move in an RPG:
Royal Deflection:
Deflects incoming attacks and projects them back at 20% faster velocities.
One tidbit to add is something I learned from archery hunter safety courses:
With a properly-sharp broadhead, the arrow can pass completely through the target cleanly and the animal even bolt away for a few feet; the actual pain of impact is very light and more akin being hit by a stray pebble or a mild bee sting. Then the animal keels over due to blood-loss. Necropsies have found that in a radius up to six inches from the path of the arrow, veins and arteries are ruptured from the rapid trauma.
If either theory that the ultrasonic vibration itself and/or focused sound waves is correct, it is entirely possible that the damage radius of a vibroblade in living tissue far exceeds the actual cut, thus a small blade that can’t physically reach vital arteries in a mudhorn’s neck could still traumatize the tissues enough to cause (near) instant death… or even instant death of that affected area effectively/sufficiently damages the spine…
My own spitball of a theory that may or may not be canon either…