Old School Cylinder Head Valve Job
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2020
- Joe walks you through the process of giving the cylinder heads on Ed’s Challenger 318 an “old school” valve job. He uses tools from the late 60’s and early 70’s to tighten up the valve guides and smooth out the valve seats.
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That hand electric grinder is just like mine and I was grinding valves and heads at 10 years old in Dads shop
Even got pictures of me doing it
Still working great B/D
I've watched a couple of these videos where people get a hold of this old equipment and go to town. I haven't seen one of them measure the seat depth and assembled height of the valves. If you don't pay attention to these measurements the valves will still work but think of this effects the whole valve train. Also you need to pay attention to valve spring tension. If you have one lazy valve the whole system will not function correctly. It will run and probably run ok, but don't think you will do any racing with it.
Once you dress The stone. Dont just jam it down like that... Very litely spin the Stone by bumping the trigger repeatedly, with it sitting on the seat..... Put a cpl drops of oil on and it will cut very smoothly and polish The seats.. looks like chrome... No joke guys try this one for sure. ...... I got 40+ years and have done and seen most everything with the automobile in those years.. I Love to help others when I can.. have a blessed day
Thank you for the input. Honestly just going off of an old timer from when I was in high school auto shop 20 years ago. I will definitely try that. Thanks!
My Dad had a shop he hung out at in the 50s. Arnolds Garage in Tulsa. Arnold would often knurl the pistons and reuse them. They built a GMC 6 for my Dad's '41 Chevy.
I just got a whole seat and valve setup from an old shop. This vid was helpful and I'm going to try my hand at some '50s Cadillac heads tomorrow!
OKC and surrounding areas have a rich car culture, so interesting to hear about the old school ways. Thanks for watching!
Lol! I caught that. At 18:22, "give or take a "hundred thousanths" for oil clearance". Sounds like my engine building skills? I know what the dementions are so therefor I know they are not right! I just cross my fingers & hope it's good enuf!!! Lol!!
You like this stuff...wait, there is a interesting surprise project coming up, sealing the deal on it in a week or so!!!!
Good Job !
I enjoyed the Video immensely ! always waaaay better to watch someone do it than do it yourself LOL !, because... well... I been machining/building Engines for 45 years myself, so just plain tired of it.
Bob Me glad you enjoyed it. I am a HVAC technician by trade, but my passion is old car repairs. Keeps it fun for me when I don’t have to work on them all day long...
@@joesgarage9953 No Fun when you did it all day long for your whole life ?
Out in my garage I still have a Sunnen CK10, Sunnen CH100, Sunnen Rod Shop/Cap Cutter, Storm Vulcan 85b Block Master, Sunnen Head Shop/Valve Grinder/Souix Stones, Digital Crank Balancer.... and I still get at least 30 calls a month LOL ! just not interested anymore..... fishing, Quadding, Golfing, all much cleaner and easier with beer !
Man I wish I had that valve seat grinder. I'm stuck lapping valves by hand. The seats are coming out nice but the intake seats have low spots where they sit next to the exhaust seats. Nothing terrible though. Ran fine and I only caught that they were leaking when I was blowing the heads dry after pressure washing, saw water going past every intake seat LOL!
Love this! Wish I had your tools, auto machine shops are dying out. Where are you?
Check out Cometic gaskets. They can make any thickness you need. They make bimetalic or layered steel gaskets. Better sealing than regular felpro type gaskets.
You gotta clean it after you knurl it or you'll knarl it! Carl!
in general, your process is OK however, I've learned the hard way that knurling the guides si an invitation to oil burning, now, I use bronze sleeve process, it does a much better job and the tooling used permits to use common hand tools to install them..
You don't regrind the 30 DEG upper seat angle, where the contact is located on the valve face ? and what is the effective width of the seat ?
Like that speed reducer! What brand is that?
Where can we get one? Like your video.
Babco 821. I have the same one
I wonder if I can take an aftermarket gasket and just shave off the crush section with a laser to make the thickness
OKI, that was definitely weird and I am "old skool" at 68.
Dude where are you getting your Kwik way and stone dresser
Doing RUclips vanlife. Living in nicely renovated van in L.A. County. Have my 1993 magnum 318 in the doghouse of a Dodge Ram B250 van. Can I park it for a week and pull the heads off from inside the van and do a valve job myself inside the van without anybody knowing?
They make a spring that goes between the head and the stone so you can get the stone up to speed then press it down on the seat
I will have to look into that. It was a hand me down machine, so likely there is stuff missing
this spring is a necessity as ti permits to speed up the wheel before it is touching the seat so it will leave a nice polished finish.
I recently bought a 1968 Chrysler 300, you think it’s a good first car?
it´s a mopar! of course it´s a good car! and c bodies are pretty cool cars;) i have a 1971 300
I had one, Ric has one too. They are fantastic cars! They drive/ride nice and performance parts for them are unlimited for the 440..... thanks for watching and check out the 300 videos here!
300 is a great bang for the buck mopar you can beat the high prices of the more popular cars with all of the performance and fun!
1968 300, is the first classic Mopar, I've owned, and I love it. The 440 under the hood makes it a fun ride regardless of the big size.
I think it's a GREAT first Car, the 300's ride just beautifully on the Hwy, you definitely scored !
I own a "survivor" '69 Charger R/T SE with a 440 Magnum, UN-Rebuilt and never touched.... but a 440 is a 440 is a 440 when it comes time to rebuild same as your 300's 440 ?
They are easy to get 500-525 Ft/Lbs from which motivates the big cars really well !
OLÁ. O uso de óleo lubrificante na usinagem é enganoso. Tente usar produto especifico para corte e verás a diferença. O grau da séde deve ser feito com fresa e somente o acabamento com o sistema que usas. Lembre-se que entre o grau da Válvula e da séde deve existir uma diferença de 1/2 º. Caso a diferença seja invertida poderá FLUTUAR VÁLVULAS em alta rotação. ABRAÇOS... Roberto Udo Krapf
I only watched this because it's a Mopar engine.
How do you spell neurlar? That was cool. Quit being so negative about it put some confidence in it look at camera.
knurling tool
That's no Bump-n-Run work, ton of manual labor in an old school valve job.... then with that old Mopar, you have stem height to maintain with the rack mount valve train.
not with a hydraulic cam.
12:30 into video, notice crack in between the seats lol probably garbage.
Not cracked. Don’t be a keyboard warrior
12:41 is a better view. It will show up if you were to mag it. Not to say it’s cracked all the way through. It is very common place for heads to crack. I do this work every day. It may last for awhile but eventually it will spread and start leaking. If it catches your fingernail I usually replace them.
Hurt my head I had to stop watching when you didn't polish the burs off the valve stems. Was hoping for a refresher for someone who knew what they were doing. Would be cool if you tube cencered videos of people not qualified to teach.
We'll be waiting in anticipation for you to post a proper guide on the process to show us where we went wrong.
@ric0000 you really think it's a good idea to force a pending over valve stem through the guid? Why would you not take the time to remove the burrs with a file? After all, you are supposedly making the video to educate people. It only takes a yet you repeatedly forced it through the guide, scoring it.
Sorry you lost your credibility with me. I k ow you know better but chose to make me out to be the bad guy. Good day!