@@rontam06 Maybe you should be the quarterback,because you are seeing things that the rest of us isn't seeing,maybe you should try your hand at being a offensive coordinator,give Bill a call he might be interested in hearing your ideas,good luck with the interview and let me know what happened,oh sorry my mistake I should see you on the sidelines this Sunday with the play book.
Exactly and he still won’t admit he was wrong a full year later with Mac looking like complete trash. More people need to call him out on his bias but he keeps getting away with it.
And Mac IS ELITE at his skillset. Which is... meticulous film study, pre-snap recognition of defenses, immediate post-snap reads of defenses, immediate recognition of open throw zones, anticipation throws, great touch, accuracy, a catchable ball. Felger shouldn't feel bad, tho. McDaniels has no concept of Mac's elite abilities either.
I always look for your comments before watching a video on Mac. Thanks for prescreening the videos and saving me from watching dumb talking heads that don't understand what makes Mac really good.
Mcdaniels doesn't have receivers that can get open with 85 pct of the passing plays in mcdaniels playbook...very little outside the numbers or downfield..Mac can make the throws too..Can;t expect agholor to beat doubleteams every play.
Bedard wasn't getting all pissy (at the moment mike interjects). Greg simply asked Mike a question. However, this was not a scenario where Felger thought his answer was unsatisfactory and interrupted Bedard before he could finish. The lead up actually isn't as bad as it seemed, listening live on the radio. Unfortunately Mike DOES this all time. He pushes everyone to stay with the controversial scorcher. Its great radio. But I actually side with Bedard on this one. Make up call lolol
Let’s be real. No quarterback was going to work here for quite a few tries. Tom Brady just cast too great a shadow. Mac Jones will be Mac Jones until we move on and then maybe we’ll be far enough removed that someone else will look like our QB instead of an imposter.
Greg questions one thing Felger says and he gets his panties in a bunch! Felger constantly questions people's takes and is always contesting and poking at Greg's opinion. Mike asks Greg a question and he gets irritated that it's not what he wants to hear. I'd be pissed off too if I always had to deal with that. Felger, your co workers have my sympathy.
@@notoriouseagle1074 True but if you rewatch the first Rams superbowl outside of Brady's last drive, to put them in position to kick the game winning field goal, you can't say Brady was the reason they won that game. If anything Ty Law and that defense completely dominated the greatest show on turf for majority of the game. And if anything Ty Law should've won MVP.
This is flat out false. In the 2nd Super Bowl against the Panthers Tom Brady threw for 350yds and 3TDs while Belichick’s vaunted defense got torched by Jake Delhomme. Get your facts straight before just parroting national narratives from talking heads who either don’t remember or didn’t watch.
Those "elite" QBs all have an elite receiver who can spread the field and give the "elite" QBs room to excel. Without the supporting cast AND coaching, elite QBs are Zack Wilson.
Oh yeah. This isn’t the first segment Felger was ‘mystified’ as to why Bedard was getting so angry. Felger’s interested in good radio and picks scabs. Greg prepares for the show and gets annoyed when Felger derails his breakdowns because talking Oline isn’t sexy radio. Sometimes it’s funny and sometimes it’s just annoying because I only listen on Tuesdays to hear Bedard’s analysis. Felger and Mazz are ‘take’ guys…they don’t let real analysis get in the way of a good take.
I think it’s possible to win without a top 5 QB but you need to have a high end defense and good coaching. Elite QB play takes pressure off of everyone else and that’s why you see more elite QB win more because every team has bad days, every team has flaws but if you have someone where that doesn’t matter as much it’s easier to win. I would prefer rule changes to balance that out but the NFL doesn’t care about competitive integrity as much as they pretend to.
I don’t think Brady’s QB rating in SBs ever exceeded 100. (Montana’s did). Yet, he is the GOAT. Point is: Build the defense, get a slot receiver and Mac can take the a Pats there.
Those elite guys were always there, issue is Tom Brady consistently beat them lol.. Peyton manning, Mcnaab, Warner, maholmes, McNair, rothlisburger, rivers, etc… issue is the media perception of elite has changed to the running back who can throw some, example Lamar Jackson… so now the fans that watch the media have the same perspective that elite means runner… imo an elite QB is a person who can read defenses and throw the ball to the best matchup consistently and makes those plays in high stress situations.. that I believe is the job description lol.. but I’m not gonna debate the media who is consistently wrong and has god like attitudes towards knowing football.
Bedard is so stubborn and outdated in his opinions. Felger is absolutely right. In today's nfl you need an elite qb to be a sb contender. Jones is not elite. No one knows if he will become elite but as of right now he is not. And also wtf happened to Bedard. He looks like a middle aged woman who needs to get out of the house.
Felger is far too black and white leaving out all of the details in how teams get to where they end up while placing it on the quarterback...So many details and much grey area....They both have points but where Bedard is missing it is that they need a legit outside receiver as well as a quick twitch sharp running slot guy with hands...Need an outside guy to help agholor from getting doubled every play.
Its funny hearing Felger talk about if you got to the divisional round he respected them. Yet bashed the Pats for playing "tomato cans" every divisional round for 20 years. Can't make this stuff up.
This is just a stupid conversation. How do we know Mac won’t be elite. ?? I don’t know about others… but Mac is one of the best rookies I’ve seen, coming in during COVID, to a very difficult system, with the pressures of following The GOAT, with no weapons (maybe Hunter- please don’t say Myers or Jonnu… but ALL of these guys besides Jakobi were new to this very difficult system also) and an aging defense. FAR ahead of where TB was, Josh A was as a rookie. And Dak and Ben had a lot of weapons/established teams.
And Dak and Kylar pissed themselves this past weekend with elite weapons around them. Mac had similar stats to Dak and outplayed Kylar as a rookie. Felger is a putz
For most QBs, getting to the superbowls and win one or two is a great accomplishment. What the Patriots and Brady have done the last 20 years is unlikely to repeat ever again. It seems they already slated MJ as a future failure and a bum after a pretty decent rookie season. Smh..
Mac Jones had fewer tds than baker mayfields rookie season, and he had 1 extra game.:. That should let you know what we have in Mac…and I don’t want to hear about “weapons” when we went all out in the off season to retool.
Allen will be great until the team has to actually pay his salary and can't afford to built him a great team to go with his 40 whatever million dollar salary in 23-28
@@thenerdscholar3932 Starting in 2023, the cap is expected to take a big jump, as money from the NFL’s new television deals kicks in. So, they'll still be able to put a good team around him.
Every qb needs a top playmaker. A nbr 1 receiver. Mahomes is great but he's amazing because he has tyreek hill and travis kelce. Get mac those types of playmakers and he could also be great.
I agree with Greg 100% it’s like Brady matters & nobody else is on the field he needed AV to make kicks 3 times, 4 times if you count the Snow game vs Oakland, how about when Brady got rolled in Pittsburgh Drew had to come in & hit David Patton god rest his soul. San Diego 3 times Brady threw picks needed a idiot Chargers DB to take stupid pills after he picks Brady he fumbles. How about Denver the game where Manning tore them apart & Brady was bad. How about the other Denver game when Miller & Ware were teeing off on Tom???? How about the Ravens playoff losses??? It all works as 1 granted a talent can cover up problems but a talent can’t win by himself needs help Elway never won until Terrell Davis showed up. Montana hits Taylor for a winning score John Taylor could have been a #1 anywhere else yet he had the greatest WR over on the opposite side.
Love Brady but damn he do got a lot of great weapons around him why Mac got nobody that would start on about any other roster around the league I’m tired of ppl thinking this kid want never be elite when he only a rookie so stop it y’all clowns
@@Kyky01010 who cares do you know how long it took Brady to become a elite player about 5 years the guy was a game manager early in his NFL career and became a elite player so why rush and predicted what Mac will or want never be
So until we break the fantasy that most of our success due to "team" over Brady were going to suck. every team for the last 40 years have had an elite qb that were upper echelon teams
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This is classic. We are so lucky to have this high echelon sports talk.
Thanks Guys
The kid played one season and you guys already wants to dismiss him,give the kid a break.
Mac Jones stinks 🦨
@@rontam06 Maybe you should be the quarterback,because you are seeing things that the rest of us isn't seeing,maybe you should try your hand at being a offensive coordinator,give Bill a call he might be interested in hearing your ideas,good luck with the interview and let me know what happened,oh sorry my mistake I should see you on the sidelines this Sunday with the play book.
@@lumberguy7000 Mac Jones sucks 😩
How’s that going for you now? 🤣
Nothing has change on my opinion.
Brady, Mahomes, Rogers, Allen, Burrow... NONE of them made the playoffs in their rookie year.
Brady mahomes and Rodgers didn’t play their first year 🙄
@@acidbatharchive Exactly
@@DWilliams-ce8nbnailed it!
Now Bedard is bending over backward to tear Brady down in an effort to prop up Mac Jones. Face it, Pats run is ovah.
He isn't tearing down Brady to prop up Mac he is speaking facts.
@@Malachi-Rhodeslooks like facts!
I totally agree with the 2nd take I’m tired of “elite quarterbacks” being the only ones to get credit when the super bowl comes around!
Bedard's comments did not age well.
Felger is the court jester of Boston sports.
Felger is a annoying little punk!!!
And yet, here you are, watching his content and engaging with it. He's laughing all the way to the bank.
Greg Bedard lmao is laughable how biased he is. Mac jones won't ever beat mahomes burrow or Allen because he can't throw to win a game.
Exactly and he still won’t admit he was wrong a full year later with Mac looking like complete trash. More people need to call him out on his bias but he keeps getting away with it.
And Mac IS ELITE at his skillset. Which is... meticulous film study, pre-snap recognition of defenses, immediate post-snap reads of defenses, immediate recognition of open throw zones, anticipation throws, great touch, accuracy, a catchable ball.
Felger shouldn't feel bad, tho. McDaniels has no concept of Mac's elite abilities either.
I always look for your comments before watching a video on Mac. Thanks for prescreening the videos and saving me from watching dumb talking heads that don't understand what makes Mac really good.
Mcdaniels doesn't have receivers that can get open with 85 pct of the passing plays in mcdaniels playbook...very little outside the numbers or downfield..Mac can make the throws too..Can;t expect agholor to beat doubleteams every play.
@@Dick_Dawson_Rad Thanks Class
All that and he still threw 13 picks
Oh yeah? How elite did he look this year LMAO. He did have a catchable ball.......for the other team.
Greg you are the best
BIG BOY TUESDAY
Bedard wasn't getting all pissy (at the moment mike interjects). Greg simply asked Mike a question. However, this was not a scenario where Felger thought his answer was unsatisfactory and interrupted Bedard before he could finish. The lead up actually isn't as bad as it seemed, listening live on the radio. Unfortunately Mike DOES this all time. He pushes everyone to stay with the controversial scorcher. Its great radio. But I actually side with Bedard on this one. Make up call lolol
Felger is an idiotic talking head. He doesn’t give anyone else a chance or respect or credit.
@Joey Beats exactly
Let’s be real. No quarterback was going to work here for quite a few tries. Tom Brady just cast too great a shadow. Mac Jones will be Mac Jones until we move on and then maybe we’ll be far enough removed that someone else will look like our QB instead of an imposter.
Greg questions one thing Felger says and he gets his panties in a bunch! Felger constantly questions people's takes and is always contesting and poking at Greg's opinion. Mike asks Greg a question and he gets irritated that it's not what he wants to hear. I'd be pissed off too if I always had to deal with that. Felger, your co workers have my sympathy.
Glasses man is definitely in the wrong
The first two SB wins were because of the defense. Back then TB was a game manager.
He still a game manager by definition. He’s the greatest of all time because he consistently made the right reads n throws!
He still won the MVP of the game both times, and this was before fans started voting for it.
@@notoriouseagle1074 True but if you rewatch the first Rams superbowl outside of Brady's last drive, to put them in position to kick the game winning field goal, you can't say Brady was the reason they won that game. If anything Ty Law and that defense completely dominated the greatest show on turf for majority of the game. And if anything Ty Law should've won MVP.
This is flat out false.
In the 2nd Super Bowl against the Panthers Tom Brady threw for 350yds and 3TDs while Belichick’s vaunted defense got torched by Jake Delhomme. Get your facts straight before just parroting national narratives from talking heads who either don’t remember or didn’t watch.
Pats need a pass rush. The D backfield/ LB's can't cover good receivers forever.
Those "elite" QBs all have an elite receiver who can spread the field and give the "elite" QBs room to excel. Without the supporting cast AND coaching, elite QBs are Zack Wilson.
Oh yeah. This isn’t the first segment Felger was ‘mystified’ as to why Bedard was getting so angry. Felger’s interested in good radio and picks scabs. Greg prepares for the show and gets annoyed when Felger derails his breakdowns because talking Oline isn’t sexy radio. Sometimes it’s funny and sometimes it’s just annoying because I only listen on Tuesdays to hear Bedard’s analysis. Felger and Mazz are ‘take’ guys…they don’t let real analysis get in the way of a good take.
I think it’s possible to win without a top 5 QB but you need to have a high end defense and good coaching. Elite QB play takes pressure off of everyone else and that’s why you see more elite QB win more because every team has bad days, every team has flaws but if you have someone where that doesn’t matter as much it’s easier to win. I would prefer rule changes to balance that out but the NFL doesn’t care about competitive integrity as much as they pretend to.
I don’t think Brady’s QB rating in SBs ever exceeded 100. (Montana’s did). Yet, he is the GOAT. Point is: Build the defense, get a slot receiver and Mac can take the a Pats there.
Why was Dan Marino not able to win a sb?
he sucked
We’re discussing this when guys like Nick Foles and Joe Flacco have won SBs. “Elite” gimme a break…
Those elite guys were always there, issue is Tom Brady consistently beat them lol.. Peyton manning, Mcnaab, Warner, maholmes, McNair, rothlisburger, rivers, etc… issue is the media perception of elite has changed to the running back who can throw some, example Lamar Jackson… so now the fans that watch the media have the same perspective that elite means runner… imo an elite QB is a person who can read defenses and throw the ball to the best matchup consistently and makes those plays in high stress situations.. that I believe is the job description lol.. but I’m not gonna debate the media who is consistently wrong and has god like attitudes towards knowing football.
Bedard is so stubborn and outdated in his opinions. Felger is absolutely right. In today's nfl you need an elite qb to be a sb contender. Jones is not elite. No one knows if he will become elite but as of right now he is not. And also wtf happened to Bedard. He looks like a middle aged woman who needs to get out of the house.
Felger is far too black and white leaving out all of the details in how teams get to where they end up while placing it on the quarterback...So many details and much grey area....They both have points but where Bedard is missing it is that they need a legit outside receiver as well as a quick twitch sharp running slot guy with hands...Need an outside guy to help agholor from getting doubled every play.
Its funny hearing Felger talk about if you got to the divisional round he respected them. Yet bashed the Pats for playing "tomato cans" every divisional round for 20 years. Can't make this stuff up.
Hey Beeedddaaaahhhd how you like Mac nooowwwww CHUMP
it an insult to football to say a star qb matters in greg's eyes
He's not saying that it doesn't matter. Just that you don't always need an elite QB to win you a superbowl.
This is just a stupid conversation. How do we know Mac won’t be elite. ?? I don’t know about others… but Mac is one of the best rookies I’ve seen, coming in during COVID, to a very difficult system, with the pressures of following The GOAT, with no weapons (maybe Hunter- please don’t say Myers or Jonnu… but ALL of these guys besides Jakobi were new to this very difficult system also) and an aging defense. FAR ahead of where TB was, Josh A was as a rookie. And Dak and Ben had a lot of weapons/established teams.
And Dak and Kylar pissed themselves this past weekend with elite weapons around them. Mac had similar stats to Dak and outplayed Kylar as a rookie. Felger is a putz
Give Mac what ben and Dak had and everyone would be drooling over Mac.
Hahaha Mac Jones
For most QBs, getting to the superbowls and win one or two is a great accomplishment. What the Patriots and Brady have done the last 20 years is unlikely to repeat ever again. It seems they already slated MJ as a future failure and a bum after a pretty decent rookie season. Smh..
Love it
Bedard looks DISTURBING with the weight loss.....
I love GB if for no other reason than watching him lay into Felger while his lapdog looks on uncomfortably
GOOD STUFF!!! HAHA!!
They are both right but neither wants to admit it. That is why they are fighting.
Bedard couldn't keep his cool, but I agree with his take. Felger knows what hes doing
Mac Jones had fewer tds than baker mayfields rookie season, and he had 1 extra game.:. That should let you know what we have in Mac…and I don’t want to hear about “weapons” when we went all out in the off season to retool.
Baker is in what his 4th or 5th season.
So to Bedard the Patriots after spending 300 million dollars is not a good team?
Why are we punting on Mac being elite? He’s got the same measurables as Burrows and Burrows is in that conversation…
As long as Josh Allen is in your division it won't matter how elite your QB is.
Allen will be great until the team has to actually pay his salary and can't afford to built him a great team to go with his 40 whatever million dollar salary in 23-28
@@thenerdscholar3932 Starting in 2023, the cap is expected to take a big jump, as money from the NFL’s new television deals kicks in. So, they'll still be able to put a good team around him.
@@mrcuret Same for all teams.
@@Tom-vt1eu Yes, that was my point.
I guess Bedard eats his words after the destruction of the Pats at the hands of the Bills.
To all those in the comments defending Greg… please shut up lol! The hell was that
Boston’s sport media is brutal, worst in the country by far. Can’t imagine being a player.
Felger=MOTO. An elite QB is better than a good QB.
Is there some history between these two? I'm sensing a lot of bad blood
Nah,,Greg is just annoyed.
Every qb needs a top playmaker. A nbr 1 receiver. Mahomes is great but he's amazing because he has tyreek hill and travis kelce. Get mac those types of playmakers and he could also be great.
Dude…have a goddamn snack !
All those elite qbs have elite wide receivers yes multipule receivers. Pats have no talent. They have crap.
No Brady, no more Super Bowls. Sorry. AFC East now belongs to Buffalo
Bedard gets behard for mac Jones lol
I agree with Greg 100% it’s like Brady matters & nobody else is on the field he needed AV to make kicks 3 times, 4 times if you count the Snow game vs Oakland, how about when Brady got rolled in Pittsburgh Drew had to come in & hit David Patton god rest his soul.
San Diego 3 times Brady threw picks needed a idiot Chargers DB to take stupid pills after he picks Brady he fumbles. How about Denver the game where Manning tore them apart & Brady was bad. How about the other Denver game when Miller & Ware were teeing off on Tom???? How about the Ravens playoff losses??? It all works as 1 granted a talent can cover up problems but a talent can’t win by himself needs help Elway never won until Terrell Davis showed up. Montana hits Taylor for a winning score John Taylor could have been a #1 anywhere else yet he had the greatest WR over on the opposite side.
What say you now?
Love Brady but damn he do got a lot of great weapons around him why Mac got nobody that would start on about any other roster around the league I’m tired of ppl thinking this kid want never be elite when he only a rookie so stop it y’all clowns
Brady had plenty of times without great weapons
@@Kyky01010 who cares do you know how long it took Brady to become a elite player about 5 years the guy was a game manager early in his NFL career and became a elite player so why rush and predicted what Mac will or want never be
@@LC-po3dm is that you, Bill?
@Andre Leite da Silva mike evans, Chris Godwin and gronkowski
@@vishalsorout Nah I ain’t bill belichick but you lame as hell
This guy Felger is really the “pissy” one
Does Felger have a fake tan 🌞?
More yelling please
Greg, please do not change you know football. You understand that a slot receiver will open up the TE's in this offense.
So until we break the fantasy that most of our success due to "team" over Brady were going to suck. every team for the last 40 years have had an elite qb that were upper echelon teams
Youd call Aikman elite? Never came close to 4000yds and threw over 20 tds once
Felger and Maz suck
Love Mazz but Felger I agree he a absolute asshole. 😊
Ugh. Greg is blatantly so much smarter than these goofballs