Marty Motoring Affordability is only part of picture for same price you can get M3, C63 and E60m5 are even less. The game changer was cracking ecu and creating tune for car. A FBO RR Racing Tune with Tuned Intake are making between 420whp n 430whp some are making bit more. Thats 500 at crank! Add RR Racing S/C with choice of 3 different kits 625hp,670hp and 725hp kit. These changes have allowed ISF to run against some serious competition. 10yr later this car is still competitive with current crop of sports cars and sedans, with reliability of Lexus and very rare.Its grest combination add to fact all style cues it had in 2008 that all automotive journalists, bloggers vlogger and alike all complained about 8 speed trans, power dome hood, side vents in front fenders, the supposed fake exhaust, no manual trans well guess what just about every automaker are now using these very same things. This car was head of its time company's like Ferrari,Mercedes, GM, Ford even BMW and many others are using those very same styling cues so ISF has aged much better than its competitors from same time period.
Theyre noticing them now because of price. That and that the 2010+ isf is idemtical in performance to the rcf lol. Who would waste money on new rcf idk...lol. this car is better buy. Rcf is pathetic in performance comapred to c63s, m4 and rs5.
I've owned both sold the is350 to get the ISF both daily driven, ISF overall better even thou I loved the is350 the ISF puts a smile everyday I drive it
@@johnnyx5623 same so far honestly, both had standard recommended maintenance done, the only thing more expensive was changing the spark plugs on the isF because it has 2 more so more labor, which I did as a preemptive measure. The only major wallet impact is gas.
Idk if I want a muscle car I’ll get one no need to get the isf I have the is350 2006 and I be beating g35s 350 z bmws left and rite I’m happy with my is350
2013 ISF, bought it new 01/05/2013, easily the best car I've owned. Don't drive it daily, but when I do drive it, nothing but fun. Very un-assuming car, most people don't know what it is.......likes to eat Mustangs, Camaros and especially M46's and E90's. Eats gas and has a tendency to eat the front tires (can be corrected with some aftermarket bushings). Factory headers tend to crack due to poor design, just gives you a good reason to upgrade to PPE + exhaust + intake, 400 + at the wheels and keep stomping people, especially little girls in Mini Cooper S (LMAO).
As an owner of both I can say that Isf can get better mpg on the highway than 350. My 350 never gets over 25 but I’ve gotten 28 in the F many times. 350 is better in the city mpg though
I just traded my 2006 IS 350 for a 2008 IS F. That thing is a monster, the sound alone is worth it. The 350 was a great car and I really enjoyed it. Also the IS F gas mileage sux but it's a 5.0 beast
@@ruskibruski did they become more popular or something? I just got a is350 everything working perfectly besides melted dash board for a pretty good price but had to wait weeks for one to pop up in my area bought it the next day it was listed
I owned an 09’, put 112,000Kms on it and I never had one single issue with the Car, best car I ever owned!! Ps throw a JoeZ Exhaust on her, sounds great!
I'm saving up now for a Lexus ISF, I think it is very much worth it with the extra power, and the exclusivity of this beast, but is350 is no slouch now.
Worth it! Don't let the 08-09 scare you away cause of the lack of an LSD. You can throw one in pretty east. Bought mine for a lot cheaper since it's not the car that everyone wants.
In NZ I can buy 2x IS-350 for the price of 1x IS-F. So if I had to answer which car performs better then of course it's the IS-F, but which car is better performance for the money? The IS-350 wins there. The IS-F has the better transmission, but you could supercharge the 2GR-FSE, the 09 JDM Mark X was supercharged as a factory option, or an aftermarket HKS kit will bump the output of the IS-350 closer to that of the IS-F and you'd still have money left over. Lotus supercharges the 2GR-FE and makes in excess of the power of the 2UR-GSE that's in the IS-F. Not arguing against the IS-F being totally awesome as is, but the IS-350 has more potential for tuning, at least in my local market. There's also a handling advantage in the IS-350 with a lighter engine, and less in front of the front wheels, the IS-350 could be enhanced to surpass the IS-F with a set of adjustable suspension struts and a pair of cusco sway bars.
So there is supercharges for this car???? But no turbo kits ??? Lol i have had mine for about 5 yrs its an 08 is 350 lol always wondered this? And how much of hp or times or speed can be capable off with a supercharger??? Lol
@@jayA-ir3vv Yes, Toyota actually did it from factory, Australia almost got a supercharged Camry too with a 2GR-FE like the variant Lotus used.. Supercharging is generally much easier to tune for than Turbocharging, partly due to the lower levels of boost and it's predictability at certain revs compared to turbocharging. The supercharged Mark X in Japan gets about 4-5psi off the supercharger boosting power by about 50hp, not substantial but that's considered a safe for life of the engine level by Toyota, I imagine it would be quite difficult to get hold of the factory setup, I don't think many were produced. The Lotus version of the 2GR-FE (a little lower compression than the 2GR-FSE) was a fair bit more extreme in improvements to power levels over 400hp, or 100+ hp improvement. The aftermarket HKS supercharger kit for the IS350 includes an aftermarket tuned ECU - Google 'is350 hks supercharger' and look at the hks-power jp site to get an idea of what it entails
@@64-bitMicro bro thanks didnt know all this but i always wanted to turbocharging it Just knew it would be a lot of work and money, but knowing how quick it already is naturally and how much quicker and faster it could get thats dope deff im going look into this HKS supercharger
Bang for the buck, taking into account the cost of the is350 plus the cost of modifications and time, I think the isf would be the strong winner. It's got everything you could ever want in stock form. What is the cost difference in maintenance, registration and insurance?
Good point - my Is350 was $10k, plus $3k in mods with wheels and such. So 13k for 306hp. ISFs are at least 20k for similar mileage. Registration and insurance are similar costs - maintenance would just be that the ISF takes more oil. But similar over all. ISF is a better performance bargain. IS350 just makes a less aggressive daily :)
@@RubberChickenMan007 I had a JZX-91 Mark II running a modified 2JZ, I bought my IS-350 to replace it. While a 2JZ IS-350 would be super cool, just supercharge the 2GR
@@MrMusicweekly and now youve paid 7k to ruined a car to make it close to as fast as isf. Just buy isf. Slapping on forced induction on cars not deisgned for it is a bad idea.
IS350s are getting to a good price now, around $22,500 will get a really nice one. A really clean, stock ISF, say the 2014-2014 models, are now in the $45,000 to $50,000 range. The 2008 models are cheaper, under $30,000 but with high kms. Hope to get in a nice Mercury Grey 350 F-Sport this year.
Exactly. I rather get a black 2012-2013 IS350 f-sport than a high mileage 2008 ISF. I never owned a lexus let alone a is350. I would be content with a newer is350 2nd gen 2012-2013 models.
Didnt need a 10min to know that yes it is worth it. Its way more special, its wayyy faster in every way, sounds better and looks cooler. No comparison.
Definitely more rare, a little bit faster and performance minded and looks cool, no doubt. Less than a second faster on the drag strip, but better at roll races. Also about double the price, which may not be worth it for who put a lot of miles on with their commute. Worth it? Yes. For everyone? Not really.
@@MartyMotoring i agree for people that commute to work or w.e very far should look elsewhere for a car. Or should have another car as daily and this for the fun stuff.
3dot8_bedmr - Like I said, only .4 seconds faster in a quarter mile and .6 seconds faster 0-60 than my IS350 as per recorded times and our drag strip experience. It is a better car sure, and I guess the Fs are “their own league”. But it’s still based on the same chassis. It’s also not a super car, just a V8 sedan with aggressive gearing. I still would like to get one eventually.
@@MartyMotoring watch the video from ISFASTER where he races his mate in a is350. both had a decent launch and the isf completely destroyed it. so its not just 'a little bit' faster. however for half the money i'd get the is350, no question. too bad we only have the is250 and the shitty is220 diesel here in switzerland
I know this video is old but I would def love to have a isf if I could find one with not so many miles on it and at a good price but of course that’s way harder to find. Love the v8 and just the look of the car in general
Had my 2008 IS350 with 131k miles for 5 years and probably spent 500-600$ in repairs (water pump, alternator) but of course if I would of known I would have the job I have now I would for sure have bought the ISF
I had mine in Minnesota winters. It is very stable on ice and snow. It even has a snow mode with improves it even better. But not even turning that on the stability control works very well
Your truck or suv Has to be a Toyota or Lexus I agree with you If you just doing lots of milage and a daily highway cruiser better to go with Is 350 it's cheaper to buy,cheaper on fuel maintainnce etc. But if you don't do so many miles daily or have another car it's better to get ISF as a weekend or even now and then daily
Your video about the new DRL installation was pretty much what convinced to the point of going the 350 over the F, sure Id prefer the F, but realistically what I do, doesnt require the F over 350, or even 250 to be honest. Def can get one much quicker as well.
I’m comfy daily driver with my 09 250 I go 80mph top on freeway to work that’s it. In my opinion. 350 or ISF for much more fun about 10 miles to work? Not needed for me. I’m fine with my 250. 95k mikes 9 years old. Not a single problem pulls same as new. Regular maintenance and no synthetic here..regular oil and mid gas...no need for premium...09 is250 does not require synthetic...but my only gripe...is with any IS model older I’m assuming is the fast wear of inside tire...don’t know why that is...the inside of tire always wear faster...but other than that...everything is still original in my 09 Car...9 years old and still going....not a hiccup!
Great video mentioning all the differences between them. There's a lazy reviewer here who complained the ISF looks just the same as a regular IS and he had both cars together, looking at you Shooting Cars.
They're still going for 18,000 all the way up to 40000 depending on year I've seen salvage titles going for as low as 14000 these cars unlike BMW and Mercedes do not depreciate but they are well worth every penny
I have an 08 ISF! 124k Great car, Still running strong. Less than 2500 08 were shipped in so hang on to it. Get those lights on the dash taken care of, its a quick diagnostic. Even a jiffy lube will tell you what’s going on for free.
Thinking about buying an ISF that was involved in accident, the two driver side doors need to be replaced forsure, do you guys know if the regular is350 doors would fit if i just switched the interior panels ?
Respect good job on weight loss. I owned Toyota sienna '99 and it was a perfect vehicle. Now I own Toyota Sequoia '06 and it's an absolute beast the best vehicle I have owned. My next vehicle will be a Lexus isf for sure what a beautiful ride and the combo of performance and luxury is just great. Thanks for the great content and cheers
I drove 4 hours round trip to pick up a silver 2010.5 ISF last year, and would do it again in a heartbeat. Great daily driver with a split personality. I’m also in the Susquehanna Vally area (Lancaster), maybe see you guys around. My other car is an ‘03 Neon SRT-4. It’s a bit quicker than the ISF, and I’m torn between selling the SRT to buy mods for the ISF or just keep the ISF stock and continue modding the neon.... it’s a harder decision than it would seem.
Hey Martin, got a quick question for ya since you seem to be one of not many people with access to that generation of 350 and F. Do you notice a difference in headroom between the IS350 and IS-F? I like to sit up straight, and I'm also 6'3" - I test drove an IS350 (with the moonroof - I've heard that reduces headroom), and I had to open the moonroof cover and tilt my head through it or lean the seat way back to sit in the thing. I've heard the next-gen (2013+) IS has more room, and the ones without the sun/moonroof have more room as well, but I'm having trouble finding one without the roof. (who wouldn't want a moonroof? :| ) I might be open to expanding my budget to get an F, but I'd want to fit in it. Any observations?
This is a unique one I never get to talk about! Being in both, I feel like the seats are about the same with how low to the floor they can go. Maybe the F goes lower since it doesn't have the cooling fans? But it definitely is hard sitting up straight in either. The seats are less bulky and bolstery on the non-F car, so that may help. Either way, you're kinda looking out of the top portion of the windshield as you are driving. My brother who is 6'3" has to open the moonroof cover as well, his hair just fits under it. The issue with this is that the A pillar becomes a bad blindspot. I'd see if you can find a base IS350 without the moonroof - that'll give you more headroom, possible lower seats without cooling fans? and less to spend!
@@MartyMotoring sounds good, thanks for the tip! I'm also curious if there's some extra metal somewhere on the seat mounts I can shave down, but that's a project. Anyway, I'll be looking for the non-moonroof base IS350 for the next little while, but they're a little hard to find. Everybody gets the moonroof. :( I'm just a couple hours south in VA, so if you happen to hear about a good non-moon base model for sale, I'll definitely buy it and hook you up with a finder's fee.
Its a good upgrade. I had an is350, and exchanged it for an ISF 3 years ago. Just hit 120k, and no major issues. Lexus service it for sure, they do the works for 100-200 bux per service. 60k and 120k services are the big ones at 1000.
I wouldn’t say it’s that different from many new cars lol. It is touch screen and works fine. There are different softwares you can run on it too. But if you mean the button design, well. That was almost the same layout for 8 years
I have a 2012 ISF and love it. 26Kmiles.. I have read where the RCF is heavier, and with more horsepower, but more weight, it is no faster. I also have read where many of the RCF owners are disappointed. They sure look nice and are 2 doors...
@@zalepletcher730 they're disappointed becuase they thought I'd would be faster. But it's a great car that's reliable. Especially compared to its competitors.
As far as look....I like the slick design of the IS250/350 more than the IS-F. The IS-F body looks weird to me. The front end is wider than the rear (not proportioned) and the bumpers are longer too. I believe 3 inches longer than the IS250/350. Yikes!
If your getting free money , you can pay the 300% mark up and have zero buyers remorse If you earn your money , you will feel like a piece of shit dropping 300% for just an engine upgrade
One in my area with 135k for 17.9k in white and 2008. should i buy or wait for another to pop up??? Will it be reliable as a daily with this many miles??
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people are finally starting to notice these cars. owned mine forever and never saw or heard people talk about them like now. 👍🏽
Well now they are more affordable, but still awesome nonetheless!
Marty Motoring Affordability is only part of picture for same price you can get M3, C63 and E60m5 are even less. The game changer was cracking ecu and creating tune for car. A FBO RR Racing Tune with Tuned Intake are making between 420whp n 430whp some are making bit more. Thats 500 at crank! Add RR Racing S/C with choice of 3 different kits 625hp,670hp and 725hp kit. These changes have allowed ISF to run against some serious competition. 10yr later this car is still competitive with current crop of sports cars and sedans, with reliability of Lexus and very rare.Its grest combination add to fact all style cues it had in 2008 that all automotive journalists, bloggers vlogger and alike all complained about 8 speed trans, power dome hood, side vents in front fenders, the supposed fake exhaust, no manual trans well guess what just about every automaker are now using these very same things. This car was head of its time company's like Ferrari,Mercedes, GM, Ford even BMW and many others are using those very same styling cues so ISF has aged much better than its competitors from same time period.
The second I saw those quad stacked pipes on the freeway in 2009, I've been talking about it.
Lexus ISF is super slept on 👌🏽
Theyre noticing them now because of price. That and that the 2010+ isf is idemtical in performance to the rcf lol. Who would waste money on new rcf idk...lol. this car is better buy. Rcf is pathetic in performance comapred to c63s, m4 and rs5.
Without even watching the video.
YES ITS WORTH IT
True 😂 Awesome cars
I've owned both sold the is350 to get the ISF both daily driven, ISF overall better even thou I loved the is350 the ISF puts a smile everyday I drive it
Can't disagree with you there!
Which was cheaper to maintain?
@@johnnyx5623 same so far honestly, both had standard recommended maintenance done, the only thing more expensive was changing the spark plugs on the isF because it has 2 more so more labor, which I did as a preemptive measure. The only major wallet impact is gas.
@@glerink how much different is the mpg Bc Ik the is350 has better mpg but how noticeable is it
@@-Louis very noticeable
Idk if I want a muscle car I’ll get one no need to get the isf I have the is350 2006 and I be beating g35s 350 z bmws left and rite I’m happy with my is350
2013 ISF, bought it new 01/05/2013, easily the best car I've owned. Don't drive it daily, but when I do drive it, nothing but fun. Very un-assuming car, most people don't know what it is.......likes to eat Mustangs, Camaros and especially M46's and E90's. Eats gas and has a tendency to eat the front tires (can be corrected with some aftermarket bushings). Factory headers tend to crack due to poor design, just gives you a good reason to upgrade to PPE + exhaust + intake, 400 + at the wheels and keep stomping people, especially little girls in Mini Cooper S (LMAO).
As an owner of both I can say that Isf can get better mpg on the highway than 350. My 350 never gets over 25 but I’ve gotten 28 in the F many times. 350 is better in the city mpg though
This is an old comment but, what do u average in the F?
I just traded my 2006 IS 350 for a 2008 IS F. That thing is a monster, the sound alone is worth it. The 350 was a great car and I really enjoyed it. Also the IS F gas mileage sux but it's a 5.0 beast
I do like the V6 sound but nothing beats the V8 sound!
Unfortunately I have a is250 which I love but I think my next car will be either a 350 or isf.
Same
we dont even have the is350s here in europe for some reason, we do have the isf's, but theyre like 30k usd and up
I love my is350, but hands down to the isF anyday
Isf for ~$20k vs is350 for about ~$7k-$9k. I have a 350 and It’s everything that I need!
most definitely don’t go for those prices now
Is350 $9k-$14k
ISF $25k-$35k
@@strikingviper7902 yeah u can’t find an is350 less than 10k or an is250 less than 5k it’s quite sad
@@ruskibruski did they become more popular or something? I just got a is350 everything working perfectly besides melted dash board for a pretty good price but had to wait weeks for one to pop up in my area bought it the next day it was listed
I'm in south africa and have a is350 fsport. A dream come true.
isf is better in every way than the 350
I owned an 09’, put 112,000Kms on it and I never had one single issue with the Car, best car I ever owned!! Ps throw a JoeZ Exhaust on her, sounds great!
Once you sell the van you should get a Prius
Already sold shortly after the video 😂 No Prius. Probably a truck
I'm saving up now for a Lexus ISF, I think it is very much worth it with the extra power, and the exclusivity of this beast, but is350 is no slouch now.
If you like power go with the F . The IS350 is cheaper but you wont regret spending more for the power and exclusivity.
Worth it! Don't let the 08-09 scare you away cause of the lack of an LSD. You can throw one in pretty east. Bought mine for a lot cheaper since it's not the car that everyone wants.
I got the special build isf model
@@d1sturb3d119 08-09 lack of LCD? What do mean please explain
@@DiaperSNiFFER LSD. Limited slip differential.
In NZ I can buy 2x IS-350 for the price of 1x IS-F. So if I had to answer which car performs better then of course it's the IS-F, but which car is better performance for the money? The IS-350 wins there. The IS-F has the better transmission, but you could supercharge the 2GR-FSE, the 09 JDM Mark X was supercharged as a factory option, or an aftermarket HKS kit will bump the output of the IS-350 closer to that of the IS-F and you'd still have money left over. Lotus supercharges the 2GR-FE and makes in excess of the power of the 2UR-GSE that's in the IS-F. Not arguing against the IS-F being totally awesome as is, but the IS-350 has more potential for tuning, at least in my local market. There's also a handling advantage in the IS-350 with a lighter engine, and less in front of the front wheels, the IS-350 could be enhanced to surpass the IS-F with a set of adjustable suspension struts and a pair of cusco sway bars.
I agree! Good suspension and a supercharger would make it compete with the IS-F. I need to look into different supercharger kits for this car.
So there is supercharges for this car???? But no turbo kits ??? Lol i have had mine for about 5 yrs its an 08 is 350 lol always wondered this? And how much of hp or times or speed can be capable off with a supercharger??? Lol
@@jayA-ir3vv Yes, Toyota actually did it from factory, Australia almost got a supercharged Camry too with a 2GR-FE like the variant Lotus used.. Supercharging is generally much easier to tune for than Turbocharging, partly due to the lower levels of boost and it's predictability at certain revs compared to turbocharging. The supercharged Mark X in Japan gets about 4-5psi off the supercharger boosting power by about 50hp, not substantial but that's considered a safe for life of the engine level by Toyota, I imagine it would be quite difficult to get hold of the factory setup, I don't think many were produced. The Lotus version of the 2GR-FE (a little lower compression than the 2GR-FSE) was a fair bit more extreme in improvements to power levels over 400hp, or 100+ hp improvement. The aftermarket HKS supercharger kit for the IS350 includes an aftermarket tuned ECU - Google 'is350 hks supercharger' and look at the hks-power jp site to get an idea of what it entails
@@64-bitMicro bro thanks didnt know all this but i always wanted to turbocharging it Just knew it would be a lot of work and money, but knowing how quick it already is naturally and how much quicker and faster it could get thats dope deff im going look into this HKS supercharger
Look up RR racing you'll thank me ;)
I had this back in 08 probably one of the first in my state, had it for 4 years 0 issues 100% fun. Have a gsf now
Is-F?
@@samandrew5643 yes isf was an awesome car
@@uz1144 no I mean is it a good first car because they sell for 9k here with less than 100k miles
Had a 2011 IS350 awd loved the car but then a 2012 ISF popped up a year later and I traded in the 350 for the F and never looked back
2010-2014 best year for ISF 👍
I own an first gen lexus is200/toyota altezza and I'm looking to get the 2nd gen isf so I can turn my is200 into a drift car.
Bang for the buck, taking into account the cost of the is350 plus the cost of modifications and time, I think the isf would be the strong winner. It's got everything you could ever want in stock form. What is the cost difference in maintenance, registration and insurance?
Good point - my Is350 was $10k, plus $3k in mods with wheels and such. So 13k for 306hp. ISFs are at least 20k for similar mileage. Registration and insurance are similar costs - maintenance would just be that the ISF takes more oil. But similar over all. ISF is a better performance bargain. IS350 just makes a less aggressive daily :)
I still want an F...or a 2014 is350 and try to swap a 2j lol. No one said I couldn't dream 😁
What about when you add the stage 2 supercharger from RR Racing for 6600$? IS350 = 19600 with your mods included.
@@RubberChickenMan007 I had a JZX-91 Mark II running a modified 2JZ, I bought my IS-350 to replace it. While a 2JZ IS-350 would be super cool, just supercharge the 2GR
@@MrMusicweekly and now youve paid 7k to ruined a car to make it close to as fast as isf. Just buy isf. Slapping on forced induction on cars not deisgned for it is a bad idea.
IS350s are getting to a good price now, around $22,500 will get a really nice one.
A really clean, stock ISF, say the 2014-2014 models, are now in the $45,000 to $50,000 range. The 2008 models are cheaper, under $30,000 but with high kms.
Hope to get in a nice Mercury Grey 350 F-Sport this year.
Exactly. I rather get a black 2012-2013 IS350 f-sport than a high mileage 2008 ISF. I never owned a lexus let alone a is350. I would be content with a newer is350 2nd gen 2012-2013 models.
@@moa-wg3bo I just sold my IS350 for $27k and got a 2010 ISF for about $45k.
Going to start the long process of modding and documenting on my channel.
An IS350 with low mileage goes for up to
8-10 thousand, would it be worth it or just to buy a newer car in payments ?
They're rock solid. Cars my is250 has 180k miles no real issues that I can think of.
Yes go newer
Didnt need a 10min to know that yes it is worth it. Its way more special, its wayyy faster in every way, sounds better and looks cooler. No comparison.
Definitely more rare, a little bit faster and performance minded and looks cool, no doubt. Less than a second faster on the drag strip, but better at roll races. Also about double the price, which may not be worth it for who put a lot of miles on with their commute. Worth it? Yes. For everyone? Not really.
@@MartyMotoring i agree for people that commute to work or w.e very far should look elsewhere for a car. Or should have another car as daily and this for the fun stuff.
@@MartyMotoring a little bit faster? dude its in a completely different league
3dot8_bedmr - Like I said, only .4 seconds faster in a quarter mile and .6 seconds faster 0-60 than my IS350 as per recorded times and our drag strip experience.
It is a better car sure, and I guess the Fs are “their own league”. But it’s still based on the same chassis. It’s also not a super car, just a V8 sedan with aggressive gearing. I still would like to get one eventually.
@@MartyMotoring watch the video from ISFASTER where he races his mate in a is350. both had a decent launch and the isf completely destroyed it. so its not just 'a little bit' faster. however for half the money i'd get the is350, no question. too bad we only have the is250 and the shitty is220 diesel here in switzerland
Dude you can pass as SAL Valcano’s brother 😂
I've heard that one before 😂
I know this video is old but I would def love to have a isf if I could find one with not so many miles on it and at a good price but of course that’s way harder to find. Love the v8 and just the look of the car in general
Had my 2008 IS350 with 131k miles for 5 years and probably spent 500-600$ in repairs (water pump, alternator) but of course if I would of known I would have the job I have now I would for sure have bought the ISF
I love my is350 !
I want an IS F, but live in Canada........the snow. THE DAMN SNOW!!!!
I had mine in Minnesota winters. It is very stable on ice and snow. It even has a snow mode with improves it even better. But not even turning that on the stability control works very well
@@SPECTREapparel thanks for the info bud. This bud's for you.
happy birthday kinda late but what EVER
Test drive both before buying end up with the F it was worth the extra payment
Your truck or suv
Has to be a Toyota or Lexus
I agree with you
If you just doing lots of milage and a daily highway cruiser better to go with Is 350 it's cheaper to buy,cheaper on fuel maintainnce etc.
But if you don't do so many miles daily or have another car it's better to get ISF as a weekend or even now and then daily
Ahmed Moosaji It’ll definitely be Toyota or Lexus! And you got it - I spend less in gas and brakes 🤣
Marty Motoring you can get the rx350 as daily then get ISF for weekends or even the RCF
That would be awesome - to save money I think I will just continue paying the IS350 and get a cheap SUV/Truck
Your video about the new DRL installation was pretty much what convinced to the point of going the 350 over the F, sure Id prefer the F, but realistically what I do, doesnt require the F over 350, or even 250 to be honest. Def can get one much quicker as well.
HBD (late) and congrats on the weight loss dawg
I got My is250 2009 whit 2jz!!!!
Just got myself IS350 as a new project!!! Love this car!
I wish I could afford IS F. One day...!
I’m comfy daily driver with my 09 250
I go 80mph top on freeway to work that’s it. In my opinion. 350 or ISF for much more fun about 10 miles to work? Not needed for me. I’m fine with my 250. 95k mikes 9 years old. Not a single problem pulls same as new. Regular maintenance and no synthetic here..regular oil and mid gas...no need for premium...09 is250 does not require synthetic...but my only gripe...is with any IS model older I’m assuming is the fast wear of inside tire...don’t know why that is...the inside of tire always wear faster...but other than that...everything is still original in my 09 Car...9 years old and still going....not a hiccup!
KILL FLOYD why not have both lol I do
Damn this car is nice I was wondering which use car to buy as a Lexus I think I finally found what imma buy now .Thanks for the video!!
Also have Sienna 2000 and is350 2006. Sienna is a Tank!
Love my IS350 but really want that ISF
Great video mentioning all the differences between them. There's a lazy reviewer here who complained the ISF looks just the same as a regular IS and he had both cars together, looking at you Shooting Cars.
One popped up in my area with 140k for 18k is it worth it
dave harris what year
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They're still going for 18,000 all the way up to 40000 depending on year I've seen salvage titles going for as low as 14000 these cars unlike BMW and Mercedes do not depreciate but they are well worth every penny
With headers, aftermarket exhaust the IS-F comes to life and sounds like a beast!
why instead of a v8 they just didnt throw a twin turbo on a v6 is350 and called it a IS350F
Probably for reliability and longevity. Sounds like the upcoming models will be turboed
Is worth it over the IS350? By far it is.
Happy belated birthday!! Nice daily driver choice with the 350!! 👍
IS 4LIFE Thank you!
I have an 08 ISF! 124k Great car, Still running strong. Less than 2500 08 were shipped in so hang on to it. Get those lights on the dash taken care of, its a quick diagnostic. Even a jiffy lube will tell you what’s going on for free.
True that. My brother likes his ISF a lot still. The lights were just the AFS fuse and a leaking washer fluid reservoir
Is350 $10.000- isF $40000 big differences for only 2 cylinder more 🤔
The Lexus ISF is a very good car👍😁
is f is excellent now lol but can you find a good one like mine lol
Yep yep
Thinking about buying an ISF that was involved in accident, the two driver side doors need to be replaced forsure, do you guys know if the regular is350 doors would fit if i just switched the interior panels ?
Respect good job on weight loss. I owned Toyota sienna '99 and it was a perfect vehicle. Now I own Toyota Sequoia '06 and it's an absolute beast the best vehicle I have owned. My next vehicle will be a Lexus isf for sure what a beautiful ride and the combo of performance and luxury is just great. Thanks for the great content and cheers
I think the stock dampers are Sachs not Bilsteins. At least they are on my GS F.
My first time owning a sport sedan. I just bought an IS 350 about a week ago and damn this car is great and its super fun to drive. I love it.
I drove 4 hours round trip to pick up a silver 2010.5 ISF last year, and would do it again in a heartbeat. Great daily driver with a split personality.
I’m also in the Susquehanna Vally area (Lancaster), maybe see you guys around. My other car is an ‘03 Neon SRT-4. It’s a bit quicker than the ISF, and I’m torn between selling the SRT to buy mods for the ISF or just keep the ISF stock and continue modding the neon.... it’s a harder decision than it would seem.
They are awesome cars! Yeah, we will have to meet up sometime to do Lexus stuff 😂
Sell the neon and use that money and save and super charge your Lexus and make it into a beast
It’s a fucking neon. Get rid of that trash and enjoy your real car
I like the 350 and the F. Sadly I’m pathetic and have the 250 lol.
I wish they had lsd in the early models. I'm looking at a 08 but really wish it had lsd.
hi marty,did you lose 45 pounds or 45 hp..well done
Hey Martin, got a quick question for ya since you seem to be one of not many people with access to that generation of 350 and F.
Do you notice a difference in headroom between the IS350 and IS-F? I like to sit up straight, and I'm also 6'3" - I test drove an IS350 (with the moonroof - I've heard that reduces headroom), and I had to open the moonroof cover and tilt my head through it or lean the seat way back to sit in the thing. I've heard the next-gen (2013+) IS has more room, and the ones without the sun/moonroof have more room as well, but I'm having trouble finding one without the roof. (who wouldn't want a moonroof? :| ) I might be open to expanding my budget to get an F, but I'd want to fit in it. Any observations?
This is a unique one I never get to talk about! Being in both, I feel like the seats are about the same with how low to the floor they can go. Maybe the F goes lower since it doesn't have the cooling fans? But it definitely is hard sitting up straight in either. The seats are less bulky and bolstery on the non-F car, so that may help. Either way, you're kinda looking out of the top portion of the windshield as you are driving. My brother who is 6'3" has to open the moonroof cover as well, his hair just fits under it. The issue with this is that the A pillar becomes a bad blindspot.
I'd see if you can find a base IS350 without the moonroof - that'll give you more headroom, possible lower seats without cooling fans? and less to spend!
@@MartyMotoring sounds good, thanks for the tip! I'm also curious if there's some extra metal somewhere on the seat mounts I can shave down, but that's a project.
Anyway, I'll be looking for the non-moonroof base IS350 for the next little while, but they're a little hard to find. Everybody gets the moonroof. :( I'm just a couple hours south in VA, so if you happen to hear about a good non-moon base model for sale, I'll definitely buy it and hook you up with a finder's fee.
mind i ask how tall are you? curious about the headroom
I am 6’1” and seat is to the floor
Isf
I own a 2010 ISF. The 300's-350's, a dime a dozen, plus I see a lot of women driving those... but the ISF super rare and boss.
I only know of one other 350, but yeah only 1 ISF around here. They are awesome for sure
Congrats on that loss
We aren't afraid to leave little rubber on the road ? I was expecting a skid!
Couldn’t do that to my brother’s tires 😂
I’m thinking of upgrading my IS350 to an ISF. Just doing my research first,
Its a good upgrade. I had an is350, and exchanged it for an ISF 3 years ago. Just hit 120k, and no major issues. Lexus service it for sure, they do the works for 100-200 bux per service. 60k and 120k services are the big ones at 1000.
me: shame it doesn't have manual
lexus: you don't need a manual
me: i don't need a manual
Truck Tacoma
Great comparison! Looking for one as a daily with roughly an hour commute. Would love the f, but not worth the fuel consumption in my scenario
Would get too many tickets if I owned an F
I agree......too much power for such a little car.
If you just look at spec sheets and prices it isn't worth it. Once you sit in one and drive it everything changes.
So true
thanks for comparison.
How about Used Lexus IS 250? For a daily driving.
They are a good choice
Oh man that entertainment unit has not aged well. That ugly shit is a deal breaker. It’s a shame because the exterior is gorgeous!
I wouldn’t say it’s that different from many new cars lol. It is touch screen and works fine. There are different softwares you can run on it too. But if you mean the button design, well. That was almost the same layout for 8 years
YES...next question
A year late but wtf lmao “is it worth it” 🤦🏽♂️
People wonder
Does lexus still update maps for these older models?
Big mod... have an exhaust shop cut off the last set of cats if you want a great v8 sound that doesn't give you droning on the highway.
I really miss those cooled seats. Great review man. Glad to see your channel growing.
Thanks man!
IS-350 has a higher specific power and torque than the ISF although the latter has speed vs 6 speed. IS350 anyday, better value for money.
I’m happy with my IS 350
me too bro. 2012 lexus is350 f-sport
Smiles per gallon
Alex Aquino True
Why is there black smoke @ 3:23?
Ray L I think it’s from the cold start, any fuel sitting in the cats will get blown out. Also the stock tune runs rich.
Is F is pretty rare, im already bored of mines though. Ive been staring at the rc F for awhile hmmmmmm
What year is yours? How many miles, and are you the original owner? Shoot me an email with some info about yours.. muayboran@hotmail.com
I have a 2012 ISF and love it. 26Kmiles.. I have read where the RCF is heavier, and with more horsepower, but more weight, it is no faster. I also have read where many of the RCF owners are disappointed. They sure look nice and are 2 doors...
@@zalepletcher730 they're disappointed becuase they thought I'd would be faster. But it's a great car that's reliable. Especially compared to its competitors.
Im hoping to get an ISF real soon
ISF ALL DAY
100 percent bro.
Got the same birthday! And I’m live an hour east of Pittsburgh
Nice!!
I have one for my daily and think that I now only need this one car.
ISF is a solid sedan
Is this car worth 30k with a salvage title
As far as look....I like the slick design of the IS250/350 more than the IS-F. The IS-F body looks weird to me. The front end is wider than the rear (not proportioned) and the bumpers are longer too. I believe 3 inches longer than the IS250/350. Yikes!
I’d be interested to race an IS350 with my GS460, I got blown away by an ISF on the highway. No idea if it was modified in any way
The ISF is pretty quick thanks to the horsepower and gearing. It always pulls away from my IS350, but I’d be curious how I’d fare against the GS460
The gs460 has the same 8 speed automatic transmission the gs460 also only comes rwd it must be a monster at roll racing
If your getting free money , you can pay the 300% mark up and have zero buyers remorse
If you earn your money , you will feel like a piece of shit dropping 300% for just an engine upgrade
Let me answer this for your viewers.... FUCK YESS IT IS. lol. I own both at the moment. The F is a whole different beast.
#Teamlexus!
My IS350 is shifting back gear when I push accelerator too, why yours isn't? Plus it have vent. and warm seats.
is250, because, car = £3000, insurance = £2500, Mods = £1000 not bad. x"D
I'm about to pull the trigger on either a ISF ,gs360 or 460L, what your opinion on what year of each is less problematic. I'm buying used up to 2013
Wait so when your IS350 is in drive it does nothing when you hit the paddles? My IS250 will let me down or up shift. But my IS250 is a 2009.
You forgot to leave rubber on the road
Tires are too expensive lol
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does this car have a cold air intake and if so what brand?
One in my area with 135k for 17.9k in white and 2008. should i buy or wait for another to pop up??? Will it be reliable as a daily with this many miles??
August 1 is my birthday too