The New Satanic Panic
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
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Remember years ago when the New Atheists laughed at "SJW Athiests" for calling Peterson a right-winger that wraps rightwing religious arguments in pseudo intellectual psychology garbage?
It's vindicating watching this. He's not even trying to do the whole "I'm just applying Jungian narrative to a religion I dont believe in" schtick: now he's just doing straight religious arguments.
Yup. Time has proven us folks correct, proving that we have a better understanding of what's being said and argued.
"What a drag it is getting old..."
But I do love being vindicated.
It's called "grooming"
@@cherryfroggo
What is?
I bought into it for years…stupid!
It's really funny how some people say Jordan Peterson is like a smart person we should listen to.
Its really funny you can listen to "Actual Jake", some corn fanatic that has some satanic imagery as a profile pic, Short Pixie cut, with just opinions and no insight. Yeah, what a great role model, Jordan peterson, world renowned psychologist who lives and breaths to help people and educate people, is far more dumb than this Jake guy. Yeah, great analysis friend. You must also be as smart as Jake then.
He may be a smart person, but he has ceased to be someone we should listen to. The man fell down the rabbit hole to crazyland.
he’s obviously a studied person but his instincts and conclusions are all bafflingly stupid.
run far away from whoever said that to you lol
He's just another case of a grifter getting captured by his audience.
Fun fact, Marx and Abe Lincoln were penpals ❤
not only that, Abe was inspired to do the whole Emancipation Proclamation thing because of his bestie Karl
WHAT. NO FUCKING WAY
@@xXluluchanelXx Conservatives: THE CIVIL WAR WAS BECAUSE OF COMMUNISM!
Slay 💅 ✨️
@@gothamsmostwantedclownbitc7107- Marx wrote to Lincoln. They were contemporaries.
I've heard so many excellent Jordan Peterson impersonations that now, when I hear Peterson's actual voice, my brain interprets it as a fake.
I love how people who want to impose monotheistic tyranny on us all think their pet demon is gonna scare us into obedience.
Why the fuck is peterson talking about karl marx? he admitted in his debate with zizek that he had never read a book about marx, marxism, marxist theory or communism. He admitted to skim reading the communist manifesto the night before.
He's Just ontinuing the Time honored tradition of Christians speaking on things they know nothing about but have all the opinions in the world about!
It's because he makes a literal living off talking about these topics to the incredibly gullible who just want to be told what they already believe.
At least this time he brought another guy who knows nothing either but can pretend with a straight face. Peterson is just weighting in with his expertise about the dragon of chaos and the sempiternal dereliction of the interloper lobsters.
@@_surreal99the righteous are the thieves of virtue
And boy was it obvious he skimmed through the manifesto the night before
lol Oulanem is literally an unfinished first act of a play Marx wrote when he was 21. They literally putting my boy on blast for his emo phase.
The brain rot is strong with this one 😢idek what to say.
Oh and it was written "in the same decade".
Like, Pordan Jeterson was a psychology professor "in the same decade" that he became a right-wing conservative grifter. A lot happens in ten years, especially back before the internet.
I read his poems, can verify they are similar to my emo phase poems.
The funniest thing is... its never actually satanic. Like.. sure its non christian..but its never actually satanic... even the satanic church isnt actually satanic.
They are to a degree even if they don't claim it
@@woobiefuntimewhat do you mean "to a degree"? In matters of belief you either do believe or you don't
To them Not Christian = Satanism.
@woobiefuntime "even if they don't claim it"
How does that work? You worship whatever god you say you do if you worship any gods at all. How can you be of a faith without claiming to be? That's as ridiculous as when my family claimed that my mom being Jewish automatically made me Jewish with no regard for the fact that I'm not, never have been, and likely never will be.
You have to go out of your way to find unironic theistic satanists. They are so few in numbers, and their collective net worth is easily lower than adherents of Abrahamic religions by leaps and bounds.
Idk we should just attribute random celebrities who never claimed to worship Jesus as Christians, so the Christians have to gatekeep their circles and their theology.
I've been on YT long enough to remember when we were all sitting at the Bible Reloaded table thinking "this magical thinking stuff has GOT to stop soon, right?" it only got worse.
Same! Damn what ever happened to TBR? I thought religion would have disappeared by now and Hugo and Jake would have become some kind of thought leaders on the internet, but the world is stupid I guess.
"magical thinking stuff" I like that!
And yeah it's only gotten worse, juiced up!
@@Julian-br7wb Two things:
1. Jake’s cohost came out as trans and now goes by Hannah.
2. Due to Hannah’s behavior, Jake no longer associates with her. There’s a video from a few months ago talking about it, but it’s really heavy iirc.
@@CalebTibsterOh shit, those guys were best friends for so long.
"The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed - the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress." -Charlie Chaplin (The Great Dictator)
Its wild how they dwell on the comunists rejection and pushback to religion but ignore everything the religious were doing to cause that reaction.
That's what "moral superiority" gets you, you are blind to your own inferiority.
This, oh my God, this comment perfectly expresses my frustration
Right? The same shit they're saying, the Vatican said about Lutheranism/Church of England etc etc
😊😊😊😊
They're religious fundamentalists, they're incapable of critical thinking.
Jordan will read everything except Das Kapital.
One of the main groups Marx collaborated with was a group of Christian socialists, lol
Also, citing Robert Conquest unironically 😂
I wonder how they square away Christian and catholic socialists. They probably think Marx invented socialism too
"A spectre is haunting Europe-the spectre of Satan. Hail Satan." --Karl's Spooky Mysteries
Hail Satan
"Chilling."
It's so cool to have a guy like Jordy Peepee act as if he's Mr.Rationality and morality when he's a former drug addict (never really hear him talk about that) and also believes the devil is everywhere.
Drug addiction is not a reflection of rationality or morality.
He's an insane narcissist there is a very good chance he never learned anything from the experience.
@@Abcde7213 The way he deal with it was extremely irrational.
@@Abcde7213 Jorbson's PhD thesis was literally about psychological markers for predisposition to addiction. So his behavior regarding his own addiction doesn't seem very rational at all. And him peddling the whole "clean your own room first" schtick to young men in light of his hypocrisy definitely puts his morality in question.
@@aaronmichaelwilkie9593 yes he is an immoral grifter, but his immorality is pointed out by (among other things) his hypocrisy not his former addiction. Addiction is recognized as a disease by health professionals. OP might as well have said "Hank green claims to be this moral guy when he is a former cancer patient!" It's a non sequitur and contributes to condemnation instead of compassion for addicts.
I'm very pleased with the fact that, unexpectedly, my very first thought when hearing his voice was of very tall bart.
😂
R a t s
I LOVE very tall bart
They are so literal I want to scream
Why don’t we do their primary move “You are taking it out of context”
If this autistic can clearly perceive and interpret the metaphor in the letter then I can't imagine someone actually genuinely taking it as literally as they seem to be taking it.
They'll swear otherwise!
I think teaching children Santa is real is bad, I also dont think Santa exists. This is not hard to understand.
well I like Santa, at least he never commanded anyone to kill anyone else just because they were different. RIGHT GOD?
This is literal schizophrenia streaming
you wish... it is psychosis
@@exlauslegale8534- Schizophrenia is a psychotic disorder.
@@exlauslegale8534- I think Peterson has literally been diagnosed with schizophrenia, is the thing. They're literally bringing in an unmedicated schizophrenic to inform their understanding of the world.
@@exlauslegale8534
Exactly.
Socially Accepted Psychosis = Religion.
Didnt Penisson at least to pretend to be secular at some point and now he is full blown theocrat.
He was always lying
his secular disguise was thin, inconsistent, and obvious
I fell into this and it was a bit scary. People on r/Christianity are asking if it's ok to watch Superman.
Same old same old, as a kid they made us stop watching Pokemon! And throw away our Pokemon tokens!
Christianity just keeps recycling its bogeymen
It's not. Tell them it's not. Tell them you watched one episode and sacrificed a goat directly after viewing.
@@GordonSlamsayPlease do this
Which is hilarious, seeing as Superman's backstory was heavily inspired by the biblical story of Moses.
What’s their problem with Superman?
Can we just address the frightening way people actually just excuse what is clear mental instability as long as it's presented with the veneer of religion
Wait so this is where Jordan Peterson is at right now? HAHAHAHA omg my sides. Holy wooooo.
What's old is new again...
Welcome back satanic panic I guess?
Bold of you to assume it ever left.
Satanic! At the Disco!
Back to 1984, literally?
Even innocent things are satanic to these people. If we got rid of everything they thought were bad , we’d be left with nothing and we’d be bored AF. It’s not worth the stress. Just be nice to people and like whatever makes you happy :)
I'd prefer we didn't have another Satanic Panic. The last one sent two people to prison for 20 years for a crime nobody committed.
I was born towards the end of the satanic panic, and now as a nearly 36 year old it appears to be happening again. And if Trump wins the election and project 2025 goes into effect, then get ready because it will be worse than before.
I'm not sure what's funnier, Jordan Peterson thinking he's so damn smart, his audience thinking he's even smarter, or the fact that the rest of the world already knows he's just a moron's idea of a not-so-mornic guy.
Reminds me of professional character assassins from that conflict in Middle East.
With all this satanic panic going around. The one thing no one has ever explained to me is this. If Satan can corrupt one's soul with imagery or a song, or a game, how weak is your faith in your god? God is supposed to be around creation and all around us. You're telling me an edgy devil image I'd stronger than the actual force behind all. Which do you really think has more power. It's almost like reverse worship of the devil. Proclaiming that your mind can be tainted by the littlest push by his forces. You'd think their faith would be stronger than any temptation by mere human followers of the devil. Let's be honest this is more about being scared about what they sercertly desire but too scared to fulfill.
"Oh not me. I'm STRONG. It's for the cheeeeeeeeeeldren that we must control everything and stamp out heresy."
@christophergreen6595 as they look in the mirror and call themselves "childern of god" seriously, the fact that only preachers and Priests get to be called "men of god" and everyone else our childern of God. Also, that god is called father. Should tell you the mental state of these people. They don't want to mature emotionally. The majority want to be led and told what to do. If you don't believe me, think about this if you are Catholic. The scarements our baptism, first Communion., Confirmation, wedding, then funeral. Your first three rites of passage come before (if you were born into the church) you graduate from high-school. Am I the only one that sees the problem with this? The human mind continues to mature and grow. If you were born into the church your whole spiritual, ethical, and moral development peaks before you can drive a car. Thus, why you have grown adults that have the same grasp of the Bible (their holy text) as they did as childern. That is why I feel that the "save the childern" is a farce. Because at least on a subconscious level, they are talking about themselves. Since they never got out of the world mindset they had as a kid.
Jordache Petermeme has gone from doctor to lolcow in near record time
HE IS A LOLCOW HE IS A LOLCOW
I'm am disgusted that these people interject their magical beliefs into politics and law. Grown people trying to influence the world with their magic book of choice shouldn't be a thing. 💙💙💙
Hey mom
Look at me
On a jaunt with my aunt
Talking satanic panic with A manic pixie
Wet dreams!
I’m glad to see Peterson’s grift is now even more obviously a grift.
Hail Satan! 🤘
RUclips put a translate button on your comment so I clicked it and it changed to "Hai Satan"
I'm ok with that one. _"I did not hit her I di naaaaht. Ohai, Satan."_
I loved this translation.
@@BaronVonQuiply I'm deceased now lol
Hail Viagra laced spaghetti Salsa!
A very brief look at the time period is more than enough to reveal that this sort of religious allegorical writing was kind of common. Especially amongst those actively critiquing the ruling system. The best example of this is probably Nietzsche someone who JP is supposedly rather familiar with.
But I honestly feel stupid actually taking this seriously enough to have written this
I don't think Dr. Kengor ever made an assertion really (and I am not surprised by that btw). He just brought up some vaguely religious sounding stuff in Marx's life and said "checkmate, Athiest"
Those two haven't read the bible..
Lucifer was the protagonist and Jesus (Ywhw) is the evil one.
Isnt that obvious? They dont even know their own myth lmao
You obviously haven't read the Bible, either, if you think Paradise Lost is part of it.
My favorite part is when someone like this looks at and recognizes flowery writing using a lot of symbolism but then reads the word "demon" and suddenly it's about literal demons and not a metaphor anymore because reasons
You’re a D&D guy? Interesting. You’re probably familiar with Vampire the Masquerade then. You’d find it interesting that in that game some
Vampires are in a cult to Lilith. I even have a copy of the prop bible “Revelations of the Dark Mother”
That is the proper place for these ancient myths in games and fiction because it’s nothing more than interesting superstition
Religion works really well as fiction, for obvious reasons.
Targets new Satan's children's clothing line includes ' PANDA BEAR EYE PAJAMAS ' + ' ADRENACROME- JOLLYJUMPERS '.
Jordan's MO just seems to be saying stupid shit with big words so that stupid people take it seriously.
3:33 L-u-c-i-n-d-o Lucindo was his name-o!
Bruh I had all my toys Pokémon card yugioh Nintendo everything burnt in a big bon fire and have my parents “did you see the demons face in the smoke?” No stupid I was crying lol
The survives will never ever let religion manipulate me to burn my kids toys lol (my parents did great, religion for immigrants was very important back in the day)
I think someone can learn way more about Christianity from Veggietales than JP
Jordan Peterson has already been exposed as reading nothing by Marx, so it's pointless listening to him comment on his character
People think they’re living in a video game.
And they call gamers disconnected from reality.
you mean the guy who wrote so much about how awful capitalism was might have been unhappy and hounded by metaphorical demons? D:
Lay Down Your Soul To Gods Rock N Roll Black Metal 🤘🤘Venom & Cronos
Engels was a true wingman, Marx was a barfighting drinker and phillanderer. He knock some lady up and Engels claimed the child was his to save Marx from the stigma
5:34
So it seems that Karl Marx was in Thor's chat, huh? neat...
Marx was a Satanist? wow, even cooler than I thought he was!
We salute you! our half inflated dark lord! Oi! 🤘
Cons didn’t HAVE to go back down the Satanic Panic route. But they did. And they must pay dearly for it!
LOL. Bro this is Peterson intellectualism at its best. Class consciousness is mesphistophelean! Wanting to help the poor is what the devil wants!!
To Satan all the glory ✌🏼
14:37 The word you’re looking for is “demonized”.
What if the more christians go into satanic panic mode, the more the cybernetic feedback loop creates an equal amount of dark witchy and gothic counterculture.
Those sick individuals are just rehashing the book "Marx & Satan" by Tom Wurmbrand. It's truly one of the worst books ever written. Almost unreadable.
Lucifer is a retelling of Prometheus.
Just as the Serpent gave Eve the Fruit Of Knowledge, Prometheus stole Fire from Hephaestus’ workplace to give humanity.
Lucifer is just an archetype- and he’s definitely a heroic, rebellious figure worthy of notoriety
Funny but true I don’t tend to panic over the imaginary:) I usually need a reason to even consider panicking you see. Beliefs defy reason….
The 19th century view of daemoms, in mainland Europe, was that of an autonomous entity, like a perpetual motion machine such as for instance Maxwell's Demon. Or my favorite Operating System mascot, the FreeBSS Daemom!
They sound like a couple of old ladies that are afraid of the dark. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Satan and demons hold as much power as the Easter Bunny and Santa...
Children's book librarians always emphasize the importance of children learning to appreciate books early on as they fear that the children will not otherwise develop their imagination to the fullest. That is probably a highly unfounded fear. Perhaps it is even the case that this human ability should be chastised a notch or two.
Okay. so on the topic of wet dreams I'd never in my 25 (at the time) years had a wet dream, or at least one I noticed (I feel they'd be pretty obvious.) I had my first (and so far last) one around two years ago during opiate withdrawals... and it was a nightmare. Not the part where I woke up and realized realized I'd nutted but the actual "dream" itself. It was sexual in nature but in a bad, ominous and scary way. How the hell do you have a wet nightmare? My meds lower my sex drive and despite being the type to do no nut november by accident, meaning and even planning to beat the meat more because it's good for my health and of course because it's enjoyable but constantly forget and/or get distracted almost every time so it's not like my body was "fulfilling the need for me." It's barely related to the vid but like what are the chances the one noticeable "wet dream" I've had was a nightmare? The withdrawals didn't halp but still.
kinda tangential, but if you are still clean of opiates, then big congrats. can't have been easy
I never thought Peterson and Kangor would be as anti-semitic as they appear here. Marx's play was based on Jewish mythology which he was familiar with via his rabbi grandfather. Jesus, being Mashiach Ben Joseph, and all the biblical firstborns are the product of the union between Samael and Lilith. You think Jordie would have done more research.
cultural marxism, the conspiracy theory peterson keeps talking about is LITERALLY created by LITERAL nazis so i'm not surprised in the least
@@666FallenShadow yeah, it used to be called cultural bolshevism in the 1930s by the actual NSDAP, and was renamed to cultural marxism in the 90s to obfuscate its origins
I actually read Marx's poems. He was basically an edgy teen at this point in life, and he later burned his poetry anyways. By the way, he even wrote a poem to glorify god. I wonder why jp didnt talk about that, lol.
But, satan is here.
In fact…….
He is watching right now. 😈
Actually having lived through the first Satanic panic I can say this. When Dr. Peterson calls something satanic he uses the word differently than the evangelicals of the 1980's did. back then they meant the phrase VERY literally. As for Peterson's use today, a lot of people tend to forget his background is in Jungian Psychology. Jung dealt a lot with Archetypes, and character studies were a part of that. One of those famously was Jung's views on Satan as an archetype. Satan as an archetype is more representative of the will towards evil and rebellion present in every person. When Jung (and by extension Peterson) calls something satanic, it's a refence towards this nature in people rather than a supernatural being.
So your telling me that Jordan Peterson himself is also a Satanist considering his own behavior so this whole painting Marx as one was entirely pointless because everyone has a rebellious streak. We wouldn't even have capitalism or any other systemic change without satanism apparently.
Even if he was implying jungian archetypes the other guy definitely was not
Didn't JP write a whole book of terrible dark poetry? I'll just call that satanic. Especially the stuff he wrote about his own grandmother...super satanic!
If I was a person who famously had weird dreams about his grandmas genitals I wouldn't say that random elements from somebodies life paint a grand narrative about their ideas. But then again I'm not Jordan B Peterson.
Deep reading marx and doing backflips in order to miss the point as hard as possible. Impressive.
Marx's father was clearly making a reference to the Greek concept of "daemon", which means something more like "genius" or "muse" or "inspiration" or "tutelary deity", not the Judeo-Christian idea of malevolent rebellious angels. This guy just wants to run with the worst possible interpretation.
This, right here. I am a Theistic Satanist and I believe in a lot of " little Gods" or spirits that we call demons or daemons. We see them as teachers, guides or helpers .
Every Thiestic Satanists or Demonolatry practitioner sees the demons in different ways. It's very personal. I am also a Unitarian Universalist and believe each person has their own cannon of beliefs that is right for them. We are all connected and shouldn't worry about what others do or try to control them when it comes to spiritual matters. Wouldn't it be grand if Christians believed the same?😊
@@jerrimenard3092 I visited a UU service during my deconstruction crisis. As a life-long Conservative Evangelical, it did kinda feel like I was visiting a pagan temple! My own system of communing with the angels is not well-developed in practice, I'm afraid.
This peterson guy went to russia and serbia for an addiction problem. Isnt that a little strange?
18:41 I feel like you should be able to say as an academic whether a book from 1868 is correct when it says that a historical figure sometimes acted as if they were possessed by demons. I feel like that should be a slam dunk that at best they were being metaphorical and/or misunderstanding mental health, and at worst making things up.
But that's just me. I'm not a political science academic talking seriously about whether a historical political theorist may have been demonic in nature based on some colourful language in personal correspondence and a biography.
Satanists don't believe in Satan
Jordan Peterson is once again tripping balls on his prescription meds
No, Peterson should have stayed with the Rorschach tests. This guy's involvement with religion, philosophy, and politics has been one big disaster from the beginning. The other guy I don't know much about and I'm not inclined to change that. He's a professor, a supposed intellectual ability, and comes out as an 8-year-old with an aging body. Jeezzzzz.....!
The way they put such a weird emphasis on Engel's description sounds like they think he was Black Philip from the VVitch.
And I can't help noticing he told us how **chilling** the play was, said reading it was so appalling but then failed to say anything about the actual content that we should all be so scandalised by. Honestly, it just sounds like he was critiquing the way Christianity ordered society and how it didn't follow what Jesus said. Which would be a very understandable reason for Jesus to be like "wtaf? This all has to go."
Plus, his dad obviously doesn't mean demon like that, he means it as in daimon, a guiding spirit. Otherwise the next part about it being faustian or heavenly wouldn't make sense, how could a demon be heavenly? But of course, they just casually ignore that to pretend he meant his own son was possessed.
Fkng love that movie
I mean... according to biblical lore demons are just fallen angels. So they would have a heavenly origin. Demons were the angels that join Lucifer in his rebellion against god, then god cast them down, these fallen angels were then called demons, and the leader of these demons is "the devil" Lucifer.
But of course it all relies on the assumption that god is good, and that rebelling was bad, which is where satanic beliefs (actual Satanism) comes into play, god is viewed as a tyrant and Lucifer "Satan" as the liberator.
It all just ends up sounding like a bunch of nerds arguing over fictional lore in the end IMO.
@@_surreal99 these two are definitely not living deliciously.
Lillith.
Satan hasnt rebelled yet. revelation hasnt happened yet
Maybe people should read Marx. Comunist Manefesto is only two chapters. It is worth the time to read no matter your political philosophy.
OOOH!! I am terrified by this stuff. 😟😟😟😟😟
Oh no not again?
It kind of sounds like his family took the nasty things people were saying and the rumors that were being spread about him and turned them into a family joke.
Back in the day, we used to say stoopid sh*t like ... "THIS PENCIL IS S(L)AYTANIC ... IT'S GONNA BURNNN IN HELL!" after drawing a mini-pentagram on it or something.
As a goblin I don't like you besmirching my kind. Sheepshead Jake I thought you were cool
Satan lives in my pants. Hes always being bad
Satan is honestly more of a good guy than God.
He really isn't. You don't need to think Palpatine is real to know he is the bad guy in Star Wars.
@@Abcdefg-tf7cu bruh, god be the villain in the bibble. man is an omnicidal monster
@@mcnuffin1208 I, too, have read those edgy Tumblr posts by literal children who have never studied theology. Maybe you shohld grow up a little bit and quit being such a squeamish, sheltered baby. You're the type of person who literally thought violence was something that only happened in movies until 2016, aren't you?
@Abcdefg-tf7cu ass-u-me. Read the bibble cover to cover. That was the final nail in the coffin for me. I couldn't believe in bronze age superstitious mythology anymore, or worship a dude who has literally Jo better plan than to annihilate the entire planet besides one family. There's a billion things in the bibble that make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Toodles
@@Abcdefg-tf7cu god committed countless genocides in the bible just because retards like you try to find retarded illogical arguments to make it ok for god to be a merciless mass killing psychopath doesn't change the fact that he would be considered evil by literally any one with two working brain cells, un-ironically palpatine is less evil than the Christian god
Jordan always reminded me of Reverend Lovejoy
This must be a joke right? Does ''clean your room'' now includes exorcising Satan from under your bed?
6:35 never seen that one before! lol! of/c Peterson would deride _Morality itself_ and not even realize he'd done it! 🤣
No depending on the timeline of events. Saten or Lucifer would
Have transgressed first, even factoring in Lilith. Because Lucifer supposedly declared war on god and heaven and was cast down from heaven. That would have to be before eve or Lilith came into the picture. Granted Lucifer doesn’t show up in the book until Joeb where god and saten have a bet.
Thats just how JP laughs. If hes in the movie theatre you'll hear "ha. ha." and know its JP
I had a Jordan Peterson fase lol
lol...if the play is set in Italy, this guy should know that the italian name he's trying to pretend the name of the play is an anagram of, should be "Emanuele", not "Manuelo", which not a name in Italy, so, not even this numerology, anagram bullshit works, but I guess the slightest bit actual of research would be way too much for these people
is it just me or does the guy talking to peterson sometimes sound like jimmy snow. its so weird😂
Lilith sounds hot
Is this a skinnier Vito?
Humans are entertainment......and maybe food