I've just bought this scooter today brand new from the dealer. Your review was one of the reasons I decided to purchase the bike, after not owning a bike for 30 years I'm looking forward to exploring Scotland. Thank you for a super review of this scooter.
gongrats mate , i had a pcx but i crash it , im currently riding a cbr600f but i miss scootering in the town , way more practical and economic , im considering the forza or nmax , what's the price in uk?
Thanks for your reply mate. I purchased my bike from Victor Devine Honda dealership in Glasgow for £3850. I'm collecting on 10/10/16 and I'm really apprehensive about getting on it for the first time. It's over 20 years since I've been on any bike so decided that a small scooter would be ideal. Honda should pay you for doing such a fine review on their bike. Kind regards John.
I am now expecting the delivery of my new Forza 125. Just like you, this will be my first bike after 30 years and I am very excited about it. My exploration will be in my home country Croatia. And everything started with this great and relaxed review. Thanks Cager!
After owning one of these Forzas for 11 months, I am still loving riding it every time. Everything Pedro points out is true, and I can add in the low fuel consumption as another bonus. I have averaged 130 MPG on mine since I bought it (and I am quite a large man). I am so glad that I came across this video before I bought something else.
After watching a lot os vídeos, I decided yo buy that great scooter just three years ago. 24000 kilometers, no problem. Greetings from Bilbao and thanks a lot for your effort.
my friend bought one of this last month, probably the 2nd london forza 125, and I borrowed it and rid it to new malden and just love it. i had the same side mirror issue but seems the mirror arm is adjustable as well. the space is so large that fits 2 full helmets and a bag of 7kg rice, my friend even leaves his badminton rack inside, crazy.
Dear Cager, thank you very much for all the videos! You are doing a great service to the whole community! I am planning on buying a 125 scooter and cannot imagine buying one without seeing a review of it made by you. I just hope you make videos of the ones I'm considering before I get my license ;) Thanks again, keep doing what you're doing and stay safe!
I am getting one of those next week or so. I am on a course this sunday. To be honest, your video helped greatly in my decision making. And the fact that I went to the shop and the guy convinced me this is the scooter for me... and the fact that I liked how it looked like. Havent had a test drive yet, but once I have the CBT course, im going to ( CBT in UK )
Mr Cager, I was all set to buy a Sym Symphony ST until I came across this video, and now my bank account is much lower, and I have a Forza 125 parked in my shed. No regrets though, it is a great scooter, and I thank you for the review. Keep up the good work, your reviews are entertaining as well as informative.
Search for Honda Forza on You Tube, and you will find at least a couple of illustrations of the acceleration. As Cager said in this review - it is a 125.
Cager, again you do the best reviews, thankyou from the UK. I think it helps that your reviews are all done in the Portugese sunshine. I cant wait for your review of Yamahas new N-Max 125
You mean you was waiting for him to review that motorcycle👌👌scooters are what A child stands on with one foot & pushes with the other foot😐😐A bike with A motor on is called A motorcycle or motorbike👌👌not named After A child's toy👎👎😐😐
thanks for the nice review from greece.i have used for 100.000km many honda scooters=pantheon 1504t,s wing 150,forza 250 ex,lead 110,i was fully satisfied with all off them.this one is a real masterpiece...great power, design,and fuel consuption.i wish i could have it.
I have bought one of these after seeing this and other reviews. Apart from the fantastic acceleration which I shall miss from my Peugeot Metropolis trike I’m not expecting to be disappointed.
Love your videos man. Randomly found your channel when i was searching for PCX and i watched your review on the PCX as well. Great job! This is an awesome designed scooter. Honda has the 250cc & 300cc Forza but in a different design compared to this. NSS300, most likely is market on a different name.
Thanks for an excellent review I have now watched all your videos and must say You could easily work for a Bike/Scooter magazine. how do you do your commentary its always good and clear.
Diz-me uma coisa: Eu costumo fazer passeios pelas nossas "country roads" de cerca de 200 kms, na PCX. Como a suspensão não é grande coisa, chego sempre a casa todo partido... A Forza tem conforto ao nível da suspensão idêntico à NC ou Íntegra? Ou apenas é melhor que a PCX mas ainda assim fica muitos degraus abaixo das NC/Íntegra? A questão tem a ver com o facto de eu querer fazer upgrade. Mas as prestações da Forza bastam-me e se ela oferecer o mesmo conforto em viagens mais longas que as NC, continuava pela 125... Um abraço, mondrian (do Fórum 125)
I have the 2015 sh125i my friend has a forza, we raced and the forza is a bit faster, I think it's same speed as the pcx. Forza is bigger so you won't be able to filter through traffic as well but it's comfy and feels like you're on a big cruiser bike or som,ething. It gives off a nice presence with the led lights, The windshield can be raised and lowered.
Hey Cager! Thanks for your review. As you're talking about the TMAX all the time, I would also love a review of the tmax (especially the powerful ones..) Greets
This was the best video I could find on RUclips about this scooter. But you have forgotten to mention about one thing. Tires... Which stock tires doess this scooter comes with ? I have driven bikes around dry climate countries, now I live in Czech Republic and climate in here is kinda wet, cold and dry around here. I havent had to worry about tires before so I'm kinda confused now. I'm going to get 2018 verison of this scooter, do you think I should get any other pair of tires ? Thanks for the answer in advance.
Hiya, I was thinking about buying the pcx125, but then you uploaded this, so i was wondering if you'd recommend this over the pcx, and if it is worth the extra cost love your reviews by the way :)
CagerOnTwoWheels I'm just getting one for now, my other half has her own car so maybe we'll share every now and then. I'm also just making a move from car to moped, traffic and costs in London is something special, so I don't mind spending the extra cash, and so far, sounds like its worth it! Thanks for the reply and keep at it!
Wow! very nice. It is exactly something I would buy, but $$$. Owch. I think that is a lot for a scooter. BTW I think scooters are a lot of fun. Nice vid. Cager.
why dont you review an honda sh 300?! I know its not in your range a simple scooter but it would be quite interesting to listen what you have to say about it
hi Cager you test & ride yamaha xmax 125 almost 1 year ago so whats is you feelings about this two scooters witch is better for you forza 125 or xmax 125 y opinion is important for me thx
By t-max, did you mean x-max? I got my x-max after watching your review and it's been terrific fun. I've always wondered how it compares to the Forza. It looks marginally faster and I like the storage layout of the Forza more. Great review, thanks.
All good things are not cheap. PCX is fine, just, maybe, a bit too small for me. Though I like its' ability to shoot from the red light stop :) and fuel consumption 2.2 l/100km of course :D
Jorge Simões I think he means the Yamaha S-max 125 or as it is badged here in the UK the Yamaha Majesty S 125. Cager gave that bike a great review. I am looking forwards to Cagers review of the soon to be released Yamaha N-max 125
brandywell44 In Portugal, Yamaha has "two" 125 scooters, the X-Max and the Majesty. The X-Max is competitor with the Honda Forza 125, Suzuki Burgman 125. The T-Max is a 530 c.c. scooter. Out of this league :) The Yamahha Majesty is in the same scale as the PCX. Here of course :)
Jorge Simões My own bike is a Mk2 Yamaha X-max 250 which I had new this year to replace my Yamaha XC125E Vity which I had new last year. The Vity is a great bike and amazing for a 125. My X-max is a much more refined, bigger and heavier substantial bike (125 uses the same chassis). For town use I think the 125 class is the best but for open roads the X-max has more stability (and power in the 250)
don't know if this is a good question, don't know a lot about scooters... xD doing it... comparing this with a pcx 125 is it worth? its almost the price of two pcx :P
hilarious enough with that kind of money xD people can take classes to gain licence to bigger bikes and buy a more powerfull scooter/motorcycle in second hand pay the insurance and go play all with that money xD
Manuel Mira O objectivo e popularidade das 125cc deve-se ao facto. Se de não requerer carta de mota. Por isso é que o mercado das 125cc é quem domina as scooters. Para quê ter uma scooter 250
+Manuel Mira A questão é que para ir para uma X-max 250 é necessário carta Cat. A e com esta não. Acho que dificilmente existirá melhor 125 no mercado do que esta, isto é, if money's is no object"!
Nice video. I've got a question: Where do you live? Thats such a nice place where you have filmed this. A friend of mine lives in north italy on the border to France. It looks similar. Greetings from Germany and have a nice day :)
He started to ride in S.Pedro do Estoril and rode the “marginal” to Estoril (in Portugal). It’s the Costa do Sol region west of Lisbon, in the southern most part of the European continent (google “Cabo da Roca”+ “Estoril”).
If only this was mono shock I'd buy it straightaway, just can't stand those almost vertical rear shocks they look horrible, funny enough the pcx rear shocks look better positioned which is a lot cheaper option.
I been driving a lot of diffrent scooters in my llife so fare and non of them has mirros made to look stright behind you,, what you see bihind you is where a car shoud not go closer to you,, meaning, if a car is bihind you and you only see the back of it the car is to close :P
I'm getting that scooter when I am turning 16 I know I live in the U.S and in high school but it's better than a car and it runs very well and comfortable so idc what people think lol i'm getting this 100% haha if you guys know a better 125 scooter pls reply and send me the video link hihi ^^
I've just bought this scooter today brand new from the dealer. Your review was one of the reasons I decided to purchase the bike, after not owning a bike for 30 years I'm looking forward to exploring Scotland. Thank you for a super review of this scooter.
gongrats mate , i had a pcx but i crash it , im currently riding a cbr600f but i miss scootering in the town , way more practical and economic , im considering the forza or nmax , what's the price in uk?
Thanks for your reply mate. I purchased my bike from Victor Devine Honda dealership in Glasgow for £3850. I'm collecting on 10/10/16 and I'm really apprehensive about getting on it for the first time. It's over 20 years since I've been on any bike so decided that a small scooter would be ideal. Honda should pay you for doing such a fine review on their bike. Kind regards John.
how much did you pay for ?
I am now expecting the delivery of my new Forza 125. Just like you, this will be my first bike after 30 years and I am very excited about it. My exploration will be in my home country Croatia. And everything started with this great and relaxed review. Thanks Cager!
@@darkokehler2930 I went istria last summer beautiful country
After owning one of these Forzas for 11 months, I am still loving riding it every time. Everything Pedro points out is true, and I can add in the low fuel consumption as another bonus. I have averaged 130 MPG on mine since I bought it (and I am quite a large man). I am so glad that I came across this video before I bought something else.
After watching a lot os vídeos, I decided yo buy that great scooter just three years ago. 24000 kilometers, no problem. Greetings from Bilbao and thanks a lot for your effort.
my friend bought one of this last month, probably the 2nd london forza 125, and I borrowed it and rid it to new malden and just love it. i had the same side mirror issue but seems the mirror arm is adjustable as well.
the space is so large that fits 2 full helmets and a bag of 7kg rice, my friend even leaves his badminton rack inside, crazy.
Your reviews are usually so fun to watch, I didn't able to realize when those 17 minutes passed away. Good Job!
Dear Cager, thank you very much for all the videos! You are doing a great service to the whole community! I am planning on buying a 125 scooter and cannot imagine buying one without seeing a review of it made by you. I just hope you make videos of the ones I'm considering before I get my license ;) Thanks again, keep doing what you're doing and stay safe!
*****
Go for Honda PCX. :) Very good for city commuting.
I've been waiting for this one! Best review of Forza out there. Well done Cager!
Hi Cager been a fan of your videos for a long time you do give a honest unbiased review. Any chance of a review on the Honda forza 300i .
A great review. I like this presenter and he's convinced me to buy one.
I am getting one of those next week or so. I am on a course this sunday. To be honest, your video helped greatly in my decision making. And the fact that I went to the shop and the guy convinced me this is the scooter for me... and the fact that I liked how it looked like. Havent had a test drive yet, but once I have the CBT course, im going to ( CBT in UK )
Sym Jet 4 125 can be started with either brake handles. I've started it a few times with one hand.
Mr Cager, I was all set to buy a Sym Symphony ST until I came across this video, and now my bank account is much lower, and I have a Forza 125 parked in my shed. No regrets though, it is a great scooter, and I thank you for the review. Keep up the good work, your reviews are entertaining as well as informative.
how fast is it accelerating
Search for Honda Forza on You Tube, and you will find at least a couple of illustrations of the acceleration. As Cager said in this review - it is a 125.
0-100 km/h in anywhere between 15.5 and 16.5 depending on how heavy you are and general road conditions.
ahh i see
Cager, again you do the best reviews, thankyou from the UK. I think it helps that your reviews are all done in the Portugese sunshine. I cant wait for your review of Yamahas new N-Max 125
Did you mean Xmax? I think the Tmax does not have a 125 model. Not sure though.
Please test the Yamaha XMAX 300 and Honda Forza 300! Thank You.
I was waiting for you to review this scooter. Thankyou
You mean you was waiting for him to review that motorcycle👌👌scooters are what A child stands on with one foot & pushes with the other foot😐😐A bike with A motor on is called A motorcycle or motorbike👌👌not named After A child's toy👎👎😐😐
thanks for the nice review from greece.i have used for 100.000km many honda scooters=pantheon 1504t,s wing 150,forza 250 ex,lead 110,i was fully satisfied with all off them.this one is a real masterpiece...great power, design,and fuel consuption.i wish i could have it.
I have bought one of these after seeing this and other reviews. Apart from the fantastic acceleration which I shall miss from my Peugeot Metropolis trike I’m not expecting to be disappointed.
Love your videos man. Randomly found your channel when i was searching for PCX and i watched your review on the PCX as well. Great job! This is an awesome designed scooter. Honda has the 250cc & 300cc Forza but in a different design compared to this. NSS300, most likely is market on a different name.
Thanks for an excellent review I have now watched all your videos and must say You could easily work for a Bike/Scooter magazine. how do you do your commentary its always good and clear.
Diz-me uma coisa:
Eu costumo fazer passeios pelas nossas "country roads" de cerca de 200 kms, na PCX. Como a suspensão não é grande coisa, chego sempre a casa todo partido...
A Forza tem conforto ao nível da suspensão idêntico à NC ou Íntegra? Ou apenas é melhor que a PCX mas ainda assim fica muitos degraus abaixo das NC/Íntegra?
A questão tem a ver com o facto de eu querer fazer upgrade. Mas as prestações da Forza bastam-me e se ela oferecer o mesmo conforto em viagens mais longas que as NC, continuava pela 125...
Um abraço,
mondrian (do Fórum 125)
I have the 2015 sh125i my friend has a forza, we raced and the forza is a bit faster, I think it's same speed as the pcx. Forza is bigger so you won't be able to filter through traffic as well but it's comfy and feels like you're on a big cruiser bike or som,ething. It gives off a nice presence with the led lights, The windshield can be raised and lowered.
please try the Kymco brand. the S8, like, down town and the rest. have fun and be safe.
Hey Cager! Thanks for your review. As you're talking about the TMAX all the time, I would also love a review of the tmax (especially the powerful ones..)
Greets
Good revue. You deserve $$ from Honda. Nice place, where is it? Portugal I guess due to cars licence plates, but witch City?
Excellent review thank you very much,,,, and now the question Forza or NMax ??
I upgraded from a PCX to one of these and so far its been everything I hoped it would be.
Great review as always cager. Any chance of doing one for the new Yamaha YZF-R3?
Great review. Beautiful area too, ocean view road especially.
hello are you going to review the Kawasaki j125
Can the Burgman 125 contend with it ? Please review the new Forzas.
How would you compare this to the geared bikes in it's class? KTM RC, YZF R125 etc...
I hope the new model (forza 125 2020) has both Abs and traction control
Where do you live? It looks a paradise!
This motorcicle is great!!!!! I want it! I have Honda Lead 110CC. I like scooter! Great post you did!!!!
Raniere Miranda Lirio da Silva If I’m not mistaken, this testride was in Istria, Croatia.
Not totally related, but can you tell me what gloves you wear @cagerontwowheels? They look great!
Between 2018 PCX and 2017 Forza 125, what you vote for?
So I see this has the ACG starter like the PCX and the Ruckus. Does anyone know why they don't put this feature on all bikes?
Good review as usual but you forgot to show the 6 way easily adjustable screen.
How does it compare to the Suzuki Bergman 125, please?
Any chance of you reviewing the Yamaha YZF-R3?
This was the best video I could find on RUclips about this scooter. But you have forgotten to mention about one thing. Tires... Which stock tires doess this scooter comes with ? I have driven bikes around dry climate countries, now I live in Czech Republic and climate in here is kinda wet, cold and dry around here. I havent had to worry about tires before so I'm kinda confused now. I'm going to get 2018 verison of this scooter, do you think I should get any other pair of tires ?
Thanks for the answer in advance.
Şafak Tanyıldız stick with the ones on it. 100 front 120 rear is good enough and City grips are awesome
Hiya, I was thinking about buying the pcx125, but then you uploaded this, so i was wondering if you'd recommend this over the pcx, and if it is worth the extra cost
love your reviews by the way :)
CagerOnTwoWheels I'm just getting one for now, my other half has her own car so maybe we'll share every now and then.
I'm also just making a move from car to moped, traffic and costs in London is something special, so I don't mind spending the extra cash, and so far, sounds like its worth it!
Thanks for the reply and keep at it!
Wow! very nice. It is exactly something I would buy, but $$$. Owch. I think that is a lot for a scooter. BTW I think scooters are a lot of fun. Nice vid. Cager.
recently i'm looking for a scooter or bike for commuting, and i'm 1.7m tall, does NC750D have better seat height?
would you say this is the best 125 maxi scooter?
Nice review! What is that city?
hey can you make a review of Yamaha Nmax 155??
why dont you review an honda sh 300?! I know its not in your range a simple scooter but it would be quite interesting to listen what you have to say about it
hi Cager you test & ride yamaha xmax 125 almost 1 year ago so whats is you feelings about this two scooters witch is better for you forza 125 or xmax 125 y opinion is important for me thx
By t-max, did you mean x-max? I got my x-max after watching your review and it's been terrific fun. I've always wondered how it compares to the Forza. It looks marginally faster and I like the storage layout of the Forza more. Great review, thanks.
Christie Nel Yamaha has both X-Max and T-Max scooter models. T-Max is larger and more expensive from what I can see in the official site.
***** That's right, but I believe Cager reviewed the x-max, not the t-max. Maybe both, but I couldn't find an t-max review.
Christie Nel Ah, yes Christie, you are quite right. Seems Cager has only reviewed the X-Max so I guess that's the one he meant.
***** Awesome, thanks for confirming, F***YouYT, you racist. :) (Relax, everyone. It's an inside joke.)
what is best, PCX 150 or Forza 125 ?
what do you guys prefer? the forza or Yamaha xmax 125?
Honda I suppose.
Bit lighter, bit better on fuel, but no TCS.
Can you do review on- sym joyride s 125 please?
Hi, where's this city???
msx 125 (grom) review please!!....................by the way your reviews are better than a lot of prefesionall ones.......love from mexico n.n
Xmax 125 or Honda Forza 125?
Would this scooter be good for long distence travel? Like 5000+ KM trips?
Vagabond Dude take the plane for godsakes.
LMAO i ment to write 500Km and not 5000Km
honda can we get this in the US? please?
So now you're convincing me to buy Forza, just as Your review of PCX convinced me to buy one. :)))
All good things are not cheap. PCX is fine, just, maybe, a bit too small for me. Though I like its' ability to shoot from the red light stop :) and fuel consumption 2.2 l/100km of course :D
Wojciech Sawlewicz yeah same for me :-)
You are funny guy, I enjoy your videos very much
Thank you for this video what a beautiful ride and I'm considering buying one of these thank you
I Love you for this video ,thank you, thank you from Germany.
;)
Wish u did a high speed run but otherwise great review! Thank you so much!
Great review enjoyed watching your vid
120mph or kph ?
Think you mean X-Max, when comparing with Yamaha, right? :)
Jorge Simões I think he means the Yamaha S-max 125 or as it is badged here in the UK the Yamaha Majesty S 125. Cager gave that bike a great review.
I am looking forwards to Cagers review of the soon to be released Yamaha N-max 125
brandywell44 In Portugal, Yamaha has "two" 125 scooters, the X-Max and the Majesty. The X-Max is competitor with the Honda Forza 125, Suzuki Burgman 125. The T-Max is a 530 c.c. scooter. Out of this league :)
The Yamahha Majesty is in the same scale as the PCX.
Here of course :)
Jorge Simões My own bike is a Mk2 Yamaha X-max 250 which I had new this year to replace my Yamaha XC125E Vity which I had new last year. The Vity is a great bike and amazing for a 125. My X-max is a much more refined, bigger and heavier substantial bike (125 uses the same chassis). For town use I think the 125 class is the best but for open roads the X-max has more stability (and power in the 250)
Nice review. I really love this bike. I hope the 🇺🇸 gets it
They can order it I'm sure
don't know if this is a good question, don't know a lot about scooters... xD doing it... comparing this with a pcx 125 is it worth? its almost the price of two pcx :P
hilarious enough with that kind of money xD people can take classes to gain licence to bigger bikes and buy a more powerfull scooter/motorcycle in second hand pay the insurance and go play all with that money xD
É uma boa scooter sem duvida, mas por 4800€ eu iria para uma X-Max 250 que custa exactamente esse mesmo valor e ganha-se no motor...
CagerOnTwoWheels Eu por menos 200 euros comprei uma honda nc700s com 5000km, por isso... :D
Manuel Mira O objectivo e popularidade das 125cc deve-se ao facto. Se de não requerer carta de mota. Por isso é que o mercado das 125cc é quem domina as scooters.
Para quê ter uma scooter 250
+Manuel Mira A questão é que para ir para uma X-max 250 é necessário carta Cat. A e com esta não. Acho que dificilmente existirá melhor 125 no mercado do que esta, isto é, if money's is no object"!
What's the top speed of the machine?
125kmh at the speedo...probably 115 gps real speed, very good for a 125cc scooter
great bike .Might get for my birthday June 8th which is today:-)
test ride the new Yamaha R1
very good road test thank you
They have a 250 forza here I think. Very expensive.
Nice video. I've got a question: Where do you live? Thats such a nice place where you have filmed this.
A friend of mine lives in north italy on the border to France. It looks similar.
Greetings from Germany and have a nice day :)
Old comment but it's near Lisbon, Portugal.
He started to ride in S.Pedro do Estoril and rode the “marginal” to Estoril (in Portugal). It’s the Costa do Sol region west of Lisbon, in the southern most part of the European continent (google “Cabo da Roca”+ “Estoril”).
If only this was mono shock I'd buy it straightaway, just can't stand those almost vertical rear shocks they look horrible, funny enough the pcx rear shocks look better positioned which is a lot cheaper option.
You guys have a lot of roundabouts!
Many, many cities adopted the roundabout solution to try and reduce the dangers of a simple crossing, but it is a veritable plague, nowadays... :D
brilliant review...thankyou.
15:09 "I'm fisting a bike" ....errr ok :p ... the good thing is that you're always positive and happy about stuff
lol!!!....."this is huge!!!...i got my whole arm in there!"
I been driving a lot of diffrent scooters in my llife so fare and non of them has mirros made to look stright behind you,, what you see bihind you is where a car shoud not go closer to you,, meaning, if a car is bihind you and you only see the back of it the car is to close :P
Hah, I was laughing when you said " Look at this, look at this plastic, knock, knock. Woo... what's this.~~~"
Nice tegnology there
5000euros!!? for a 125? i bought my CB500F for 6000, that's way to much expensive for a 125. sure it's not the price for the Forza 300?
this video made me buy my forza!
Got mine yesterday :D
6:55 That's what he said.
I have seen ...P... identification in these cars means... Portugal.
In my country, this model will use 150cc engine, and on
Great post !!! Forza made you nervous for sure !!! ;-)
it has cbr1000rr mirrows
I'm getting that scooter when I am turning 16 I know I live in the U.S and in high school but it's better than a car and it runs very well and comfortable so idc what people think lol i'm getting this 100% haha if you guys know a better 125 scooter pls reply and send me the video link hihi ^^
Premium scooter with a premium price.
In the UK it's 60% more than a PCX or NMAX. Too much by a long chalk.
I bought the forza
My anus smells vile.
Poot wipe it clean and see the difference
2.10 I don't think u know what five metres is. It's not even twenty feet!
Ha ha. "Mr Data" I thought irony was an English thing, not Portuguese.
Nice
Harga honda forsa
CBR 1000 rr's mirror :D
Well Explained. 🎉 🎉🎉 🎉 🎉 😂🎉
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