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  • Nice Guys finish last! A look at the philosophy at play in “nice guy” dating dynamics.
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  • @alpharoo2581
    @alpharoo2581 11 месяцев назад +53

    I just realized Chris Gabriel is the energetic inverse of the fedora hat guy

  • @lostballoons
    @lostballoons 11 месяцев назад +78

    gorgeous backdrop and the lighting on this one. Production value has been through the roof the past few months, really dig it.

  • @ileutur6863
    @ileutur6863 11 месяцев назад +290

    I hate that the definition of "nice guy" was shifted to "not nice guy with hidden intentions". Back in my late teens I genuinely had a problem with being too nice, to the point where nobody took me seriously. It was an entirely different problem than having hidden intentions, but I had nobody to talk to about it because everyone thought I was just an incel.

    • @killgriffinnow
      @killgriffinnow 11 месяцев назад +66

      Ironic how the types that say “men need to talk about their feelings” are the same who throw around the term “incel” if they do

    • @marreco6347
      @marreco6347 11 месяцев назад +48

      It's worth doing some soul searching if you haven't. I used to think I was just too nice for no reason, but as I got older I got to piece together that I was moved by a mesh of repressed desires and trauma so complex that even I couldn't understand my own agenda back then.

    • @knivves0ut
      @knivves0ut 11 месяцев назад +20

      @@killgriffinnowI think people probably throw around the term incel too much (more men and women are technically incels now because of the pandemic era social silos). That being said when some men talk about their struggles dating, the way they describe certain dynamics with women and flatten people into archetypes is extremely off-putting.

    • @breannaw7254
      @breannaw7254 11 месяцев назад +15

      I think the words people are looking for are "people pleasing" at best and "entitled" at worst

    • @alexxx4434
      @alexxx4434 11 месяцев назад +15

      In today's cynical day and age being nice is hella sus.

  • @connor43057
    @connor43057 11 месяцев назад +21

    7:15 "God expects people to make life entertaining" -- this is so interesting! The only other person I've heard this remark from is a schizophrenic programmer named Terry Davis (incredibly intelligent despite his mental state, world-class programmer). He often said, "The purpose of life is to entertain God. And if you don't know how to entertain God, then take care of those who do... God loves soap operas". I'm not religious, but I completely agree.

    • @MemeAnalysis
      @MemeAnalysis  11 месяцев назад +9

      This view I largely gained from Nietzsche: “It is certain, at any rate, that the Greeks still
      knew of no tastier spice to offer their gods to season their happiness
      than the pleasures of cruelty. With what eyes do you think Homer
      made his gods look down upon the destinies of men? What was
      at bottom the ultimate meaning of Trojan Wars and other such
      tragic terrors? There can be no doubt whatever: they were intended
      as festival plays for the gods”
      -Genealogy of Morals

    • @totallynoteverything1.
      @totallynoteverything1. Месяц назад +2

      that's why god loves schizo and beetles (the bug)

  • @zinjanthropus322
    @zinjanthropus322 11 месяцев назад +62

    This applies to a lot more than nice guys. It applies to incompetent people overall who turn their incompetence into resentment of the competent.

    • @mokie7421
      @mokie7421 11 месяцев назад +2

      Most definitely

    • @BlckPollen
      @BlckPollen 10 месяцев назад +1

      I find often that in most trades those who are unsuccessful in the respected fields love to declare the people in there trades w the most acalades and success to be idiot's. That there more complex esoteric way of working is actually more virtous and that the masses are too stupid to accept there brilliance.

    • @pb2325
      @pb2325 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@BlckPollenit is also true though. Success is not just skill but also political (brown nosing, nepotism, etc.) and distorts the trade/field.

  • @drsnk6854
    @drsnk6854 11 месяцев назад +98

    You hit the nail on the head. Kindness out of a place not for the sake of kindness' sake, but the expectation of being rewarded is one of the grossest forms of materialism

  • @EUCLIDIAN119
    @EUCLIDIAN119 11 месяцев назад +50

    your videos are sincerely on point and on timing consistently ❤‍🔥

    • @BabaGStar
      @BabaGStar 11 месяцев назад

      I concurre

  • @channelnamegoeshere7355
    @channelnamegoeshere7355 11 месяцев назад +96

    Kindness is a form of Will. Therefore, true kindness is not an ends to a means, but an ends in of itself. You don't get rewarded for kindness, kindness IS the reward.

    • @xadxtya
      @xadxtya 11 месяцев назад +11

      That's right. People shouldn't need to expect a compliment back.

    • @CynicalBastard
      @CynicalBastard 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@xadxtya At some point the world is just dark. It's the worldst of it all. What then?

    • @molotovmafia2406
      @molotovmafia2406 10 месяцев назад +4

      that's why you should only do selfless acts of kindness if it's fine to you if the other person doesn't return them. whenever discomfort or resentment arise, it's time to communicate your needs and negotiate a mutually beneficial agreement.

    • @iGuy28
      @iGuy28 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@CynicalBastard worlds a mirror; what you see is what you give in return. If you see ugliness, it's all you'll ever see. Even genuine kindness will seem evil and base. This is not sustainable because you're completely and utterly alone.
      Is.. is THAT a good way of living YOUR life?

    • @themostbestwizard
      @themostbestwizard 2 месяца назад

      You have just found the difference between genuinely good people and phonies like Drake and Mister B.

  • @SSJKamui
    @SSJKamui 11 месяцев назад +30

    Yes. This "revenge of the nerds" thing (Nerds getting into more poewerful positions than jocks later in life) is Propaganda to create docile salarymen who overwork for less payment.
    Social skills and Networking are far more important for job success than knowledge or educational skills. A high school jock is also better at career than a nice guy nerd

    • @vyllix8546
      @vyllix8546 11 месяцев назад +4

      actually it really depends, it's like 3% of "jocks" will be actually sucessful networking god salesmen and 1% of "nerds" genius scientists, because y'know, i don't think the way you grow affects THAT much of your sucess rate as this whole system is designed to make all parties get stuck into the salarymen deep end

    • @isaacm4159
      @isaacm4159 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​@Shoegazebasedgenre0.Lol cringe

    • @sorenjunkers3834
      @sorenjunkers3834 11 месяцев назад +2

      The 0.1% of the nerds rule the Internet and soon the world. What a miserabel future

  • @christophersnedeker
    @christophersnedeker 11 месяцев назад +74

    "If you say, 'No one ought to do right for the sake of reward,' I go farther and say, 'No man can do right for the sake of reward"
    -George Macdonald

    • @josiahcarroll8576
      @josiahcarroll8576 11 месяцев назад +2

      i love george macdonald so much

    • @Westlander857
      @Westlander857 11 месяцев назад +5

      My dad was a volunteer firefighter for 20 years, and he taught me this. He selflessly put his life and body on the line for his community, never pat himself on the back for it or talked himself up. He did it because it was the right thing to do, full stop.

  • @voltagewing1283
    @voltagewing1283 11 месяцев назад +34

    I know what I want but I am crippled by fear and anxiety and come off as a nice guy

    • @Skelfi
      @Skelfi 11 месяцев назад +1

      Waddya want then? I'm the opposite. I don't know what I wan't but have no social anxieties. Only internal stress.

    • @postcollapse1170
      @postcollapse1170 11 месяцев назад

      You are just weak, and you know you are weak, so playing nice is your best strategy for survival, like it was for your weak ancestors raking the fields.

    • @fewstr
      @fewstr 11 месяцев назад +2

      for the longest time i was caught under medusas spell, turned to stone from a womans gaze. the only way out is to build yourself up and become someone worth loving, someone who knows they are in control.

    • @hatewillneverwin.
      @hatewillneverwin. 11 месяцев назад

      remove the things that cause you stress and anxiety and replace them with empowerment

    • @killgriffinnow
      @killgriffinnow 11 месяцев назад +12

      I think I know what’s going on here, in fact I was like you, (probably worse) but I got over it.
      One of the tricks I’ve learned is, if you’re interested in someone but you’re nervous, try to let them lead the conversation by finding out what they like and what they’re interested in. If you have anything to add, great, if you don’t, then you can always politely steer the conversation towards your interests afterwards.
      The internet is, currently, a very nasty place in this regard. Very few people are interested in helping people like you, preferring to torment the “nice guys” and “incels” in perpetuity. You’re not likely to find much help in such places, outside of isolated enclaves like this one.

  • @augustogagliardi5364
    @augustogagliardi5364 11 месяцев назад +25

    "Worship is not on bended knee
    Nature knows not of mercy
    To pray is to accept defeat
    Power pisses on the weak
    Bow and beheaded by the beast
    Beggar on a bitch's leash
    Scum is desperate for relief
    Worship is the way I ride
    Witching currents through the eye
    Of storms that force the false to die
    Worship the flames with which I rise into apocalyptic skies" - MC Ride

    • @powfoot4946
      @powfoot4946 11 месяцев назад +4

      I CLOSE MY EYES AND SEIZE IT MC ride is a great lyricist

    • @andrade9172
      @andrade9172 10 месяцев назад +1

      Beware go so hard, it's legit poetry

    • @navidjavan7472
      @navidjavan7472 10 месяцев назад

      BEWARE is a masterpiece. My fav track from their whole discography

  • @Rosi_in_space
    @Rosi_in_space 11 месяцев назад +6

    Instructions unclear: Scares off girls with a whip, and strives to become an Übermensch.

  • @daklr2501
    @daklr2501 11 месяцев назад +20

    Agreeability is charisma for the people who don't have a spine

  • @carlosfelipa6828
    @carlosfelipa6828 11 месяцев назад +16

    Damn, I realized I based my intire life in declaring my weakness and inferiority as a virtue. I'm a man of resentmen. Need to find a new path in life.

  • @vyllix8546
    @vyllix8546 11 месяцев назад +12

    I like the point about being well rounded, but that's for "nice guys", who are investing too much into their facade, but for actual nice and very kind people on their nature who are pretty selfless, i don't believe you should force you too much to create that well rounded facade yourself, and instead just be what you feel is your right self, maybe most people will not enjoy you and mix you in with "nice guys", but such is the nature of perceptions, and you should not live in others perceptions and instead live by your truthful virtues, those too selfless will always suffer more, but if to stop that suffering you must then sacrife a core of your self then is that really worth it? to live just as another person holding up masks? but yes, in the end, those more balanced in nature will have it truly better, so if you fake anything, at least fake that

  • @nocturnal9765
    @nocturnal9765 11 месяцев назад +58

    One of the things that stuck with me from my jordan peterson phase is in one of his lectures he talked about the idea that "the meek shall inherit the earth" is actually somewhat of a miss translation and it actually translates to something more like "those who have a sword but do not use it shall inherit the earth". its more trying to say embrace your ability for evil and be capable of it, but do not use it, or perhaps be reserved and use it when it is absolutely necessary.

    • @robotbjorn4952
      @robotbjorn4952 11 месяцев назад +16

      Yes! To restrain yourself when you lack the ability to commit violence isn't virtue.

    • @Autogenification
      @Autogenification 11 месяцев назад +13

      Yup, this goes through all the way to Jung's writings on the Shadow and Shadow integration in his psychoanalysis. Some people get it instinctually (to a certain level) - those that have been given the freedom to be both good and evil in their younger years (and not be so suppressed for it) and they tend to have healthier social bonds, less neuroticism across the board, and just all round more 'fun' to be around. I used to resent some 'jock' types from my school days but I see it from a few psychoanalytical lenses now and I see how the absence of a strong masculine role played into my lack of guidance into balancing goods and evils, making some stunted and perverted creases in my personality that have been ironed out by doing calisthenics and combat sports

    • @josepreciadocortes8224
      @josepreciadocortes8224 11 месяцев назад

      I learned a lot of good stuff from my JP days. This being one of the most important.

  • @whamuwu7865
    @whamuwu7865 11 месяцев назад +10

    You organized a lot of isolated thoughts that I wasn't able to connect by myself, thanks a lot!!!
    This video might be one of the most important videos you have ever made.

  • @15aia5
    @15aia5 11 месяцев назад +14

    We should not be kind to expect something in return, but so that the echo of our help resonates in the other and transforms it into another kind act for someone who needs it even more.
    "I consider the one who conquers his desires to be braver than the one who conquers his enemies, since the hardest victory is the victory over oneself."
    Aristotle

  • @nullset2
    @nullset2 11 месяцев назад +38

    I hired a contractor, they did a shitty job, but they'd keep asking me for advances in order to "buy tools". Eventually I realized what was going on and told them to fuck off and they flipped me off.
    A man is someone who has a sword but keeps it sheathed; yet when a coyote shows up it's time to fuck it up.

  • @xiaomeme7210
    @xiaomeme7210 10 месяцев назад +5

    we miss your videos. come back bro 😢

  • @kabooki2823
    @kabooki2823 11 месяцев назад +12

    a very scenic MemeAnalysis today. love the ambiance of the video, very nice colours and lighting

  • @johnvirek42
    @johnvirek42 11 месяцев назад +2

    The extras always always go along with the video, nice touch!

  • @bobdobsin6216
    @bobdobsin6216 11 месяцев назад +3

    Do not help others for a reward. Do not help others because you are commanded. Do not help others out of some servile intention to please your master or get a treat.
    Nietzsche helped me understand why I like to help others. You can dress up this desire in all sorts of moral systems. But at the end of the day, "I look into my heart, and I see what is right."
    Help others because you are your own master, and it pleases you to do so. That is true, authentic, genuine compassion and kindness.

  • @SSJKamui
    @SSJKamui 11 месяцев назад +15

    My experience is, a nice guy who always gets friendzoned needs to understand, almost all women are at least a bit macchiavellian in a way. Men ofcourse too and nice guys ofcourse as well.
    A friendzoned nice guy stays at that undesireable place because he serves a funktion and provided a service for the girl in question and mostly free or "underpriced".
    If you are the friendzoned nice guy, the woman knows how to use your feelings to get what she wants.
    Best example, girls often times go to friendzoned nice guys to complain about their boyfriends and tell them "why cant he be as nice as you"? Why do they do that?
    Simple. They know they rejected you and chose him instead. They assume that you hate this guy for taking away the girl you wanted to get. And thus, they assume you will agree with her that her boyfriend is shit.
    Look at the PUA technique of the boyfriend Destroyer. Why can people in such a Situation cause the girl in question to breakup with her boyfriend by telling her that her boyfriend was right?
    Simple. The nice guy in the friendzone is a kind of vent used by the girl to get rid of blown up anger and to stabilize her relationship.
    My experience is, the 2 things which help the best against this Position.
    1. Clearly set boundaries
    2. Do not be resentful of that guy. Try to be friend with that guy. (Or girl) do not hate him. Be nice to him.
    Any resentment you have towards this guy will be used against you.

    • @vyllix8546
      @vyllix8546 11 месяцев назад +3

      that's very good, if she's an actual close person and you care about the situation, don't just take her biases at face value and actually think if that boyfriend is all that terrible of a person!
      but if they actually are.. i wouldn't just go and agree with them just so she would have more chances of ending up with me lol, do what you feel is right most of the times, and most likely that is the right thing.

    • @SSJKamui
      @SSJKamui 11 месяцев назад

      @@vyllix8546 I agree. If she genuinely needs help you should probably help her. (Depending on the Situation. Sadly, there are some people which cannot be helped and who do the same stupid thing over and over again withoug realizing what they do.)

    • @cybertron1000s
      @cybertron1000s 11 месяцев назад

      Why are you still around a friendzoned broad?

    • @Indianpsychonaut
      @Indianpsychonaut 11 месяцев назад

      I have no enemies 🗿

    • @yasmina3999
      @yasmina3999 8 месяцев назад

      because "nice guys" are often JUST nice. they don't know how to set boundaries, they have low self-esteem, and they don't have a great sense of humour or charisma. Women don't want bad guys (yes, there are some that do want them, but the same goes for guys who want bad bitches), they want charismatic independent men who also will treat them great. Just read/watch content for women and girls - it's a popular trope. Like in Twilight, the main girl falls in love with a vampire, a" bad guy", who is in fact not a bad guy and loves her dearly.

  • @geniustennisacademy5182
    @geniustennisacademy5182 4 месяца назад +1

    This is one of the most amazing videos I've ever watched in my life

  • @TheMartialEsotericist
    @TheMartialEsotericist 11 месяцев назад +23

    Damn, you just called out my utilitarian "suffer as the bad guy now and be rewarded with heaven in the after life" performative sacrificial catholicism 😎

  • @Shbucket
    @Shbucket 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love how your speaking on love. While there is a couple in the background enjoying the company of each other, obviously in love.

  • @adnanmutlu1972
    @adnanmutlu1972 11 месяцев назад +1

    my god bro you are my new favorite listenable content creator love your stuff, your gonna be my new sisyphus 55

  • @chrisa8044
    @chrisa8044 11 месяцев назад +14

    0:37 The resemblance is uncanny!!!

    • @ToedCobra33
      @ToedCobra33 11 месяцев назад

      Art imitates life!!!

  • @nomadman5288
    @nomadman5288 5 месяцев назад +1

    The word "nice" orginally meant "foolish. weak, timid, ignorant (among other things)." It's only been linked to kindness in the past few hundred years. Just something to consider.

  • @Heinrich_Hyper14
    @Heinrich_Hyper14 11 месяцев назад +6

    Meme analysis talking about the inversion and bending of desire to conclude the Saturnalia... noted.

  • @wert1897
    @wert1897 11 месяцев назад +1

    Impeccable timing brother. Godspeed.

  • @juankgonzalez6230
    @juankgonzalez6230 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was all perfectly laid out in Sui Generis' 1972 song "Quién me lo robó", off of their masterpiece album Vida

  • @lithia481
    @lithia481 11 месяцев назад +5

    "God wants excitement and action, God expects people to make life entertaining for him. Make God proud, make God happy." After intense reflection, I landed on this exact same philosophy and was living it consciously by 25. As a result, my life has unfolded so beautifully that I often question whether I died at a certain point and have been dreaming since. I laughed aloud with glee to hear you state this idea of God and life as directly. For me, this is also the elegant answer to the 'problem of evil,' as narrative cannot exist without conflict nor life without death. Anyway, your entire way of being really resonates with me and the content is gourmet; truly grateful you deign to put it on yt for free.

  • @Deltasierra2020
    @Deltasierra2020 10 месяцев назад +1

    Man, I really needed this video

  • @Gumbo_Calm
    @Gumbo_Calm 11 месяцев назад +1

    Fucking love your content man. This fusion of deep ideas with culturally relevant memes is just pure gold and I really appreciate that you are sharing your perspective.

  • @kemoni221
    @kemoni221 10 месяцев назад +1

    holy shit I wasn't expecting actual life advice and an exploration of philosophy on a channel called "MemeAnalysis"
    I was pleasantly surprised though, please give me more advice that my absent father couldn't

  • @jpphilosopher
    @jpphilosopher 11 месяцев назад +6

    This is an amazing dissection of resentment and the nice guy persona. What practical actionable steps do you recommend guys take to work through this dilemma?

    • @vyllix8546
      @vyllix8546 11 месяцев назад +2

      the trusty 'ol noose (in-game of course)
      idk imo most of these problems come from deep views of life that have been been malformed and the over value given to other human beings, when they are just fellow commoners of flesh and bone like you and me, so learning to value other things more or equally helps (although not easy sometimes depending on ur case
      so really really trying to understand where your thoughts come from is a good strat

  • @Bazed.
    @Bazed. 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great conclusion Mr. Analysis

  • @pointytoebro
    @pointytoebro 11 месяцев назад +2

    There is a power and a beauty to kindness that us freely chosen. When kindness is given by default, its like getting a corporate Christmas card-its meaningless. Byt a card given by choice from a dear friend means infinitely more. Smiling upon your fellow human snd choosing benevolence for that particular day with no expectations or ulterior motives is closer to godliness than anything else

  • @stevens1041
    @stevens1041 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was taught early on--expect nothing from this world. Helped me greatly in my development.

  • @Kegz
    @Kegz 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank the lords you have a mic - way better content in the wild

  • @mmmar7317
    @mmmar7317 11 месяцев назад +1

    Damn man, lov eyour videos and i've been following you since like 2019 - it's cool to see you progress and evolve. + You are fit and nice now, very healthy ^^

  • @systemhalodark
    @systemhalodark 11 месяцев назад +1

    True kindness is about using your energy to bring out the best in those around you and energize them in turn, not an artifice to beg and cause pity.

  • @lectivalzahard8533
    @lectivalzahard8533 11 месяцев назад +3

    i thik that this also makes it so that those who succeed are seen as deserving or strong when its also not true, like yeah, nice guys dont deserve love just because, but the fact that you got a gf and whatnot doesn't mean you do deserve the gf, its more complicated and has nothing to do with virtue and strength, it has a lot to do with luck and stuff you dont control.

  • @drejarg
    @drejarg 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you MemeAnalysis ;’D

  • @MillywiggZ
    @MillywiggZ 11 месяцев назад +9

    I think the distinction you’re making is the motive to be nice or kind.
    The wrong way;
    For self gain, hope for reward to look good to others, for the self not for others.
    The right way;
    Altruistic motives, seeking no reward, for the benefit of those weaker or less fortunate, being un-observed preforming kind acts that benefit others.

    • @bbyponk
      @bbyponk 11 месяцев назад

      the altruistic thing is another mask for self gain to most people

    • @leopoldoii6795
      @leopoldoii6795 11 месяцев назад +4

      There is no altruism, everything you do is for self-gain.

    • @hostilesinbound3241
      @hostilesinbound3241 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@leopoldoii6795 that is an absolutely ridiculous statement, man.

    • @leopoldoii6795
      @leopoldoii6795 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@hostilesinbound3241 It's the very definition of act. Actually, there is no such thing as altruism and egoism. There is only egoism, so even the distinction doesn't exist, it's a false dichotomy.
      Think of the most altruistic act possible, like giving your life away to save random people you don't know. You'll only do the act if you think it is worth something, therefore you do the act for a reason, and a egoistic reason; you'll feel good doing that, or at least knowing that what you do is going to have good repercussions. An altruistic act is not actually physically possible, you can't do something you don't want to do, and you only do something if you think it's worth it for whatever reason.

  • @iillililillliliilliiililil5066
    @iillililillliliilliiililil5066 10 месяцев назад +1

    MemeAnalysis please analyze the “Imagine if Ninja got a low taper fade” meme

  • @NaeNaeMeMes
    @NaeNaeMeMes 10 месяцев назад +1

    Unbelievably based. Thank you for this video.

  • @Daniel-lf3jg
    @Daniel-lf3jg 11 месяцев назад +20

    So, some dudes give up quickly in real life, but will spend endless hours levelling up a fictional game character.
    Develop YOUR character. Just keep living, do activities, look after yourself, build tolerance to rejection, and you will meet someone. It's almost statistically impossible not to if you keep mixing with people.
    Meekness is not weakness, they are totally different. Humility is essential.
    You dont deserve anything, but you can work for it.
    Thats my word salad for today but its what i truly believe and its what has worked for me.

    • @michikatsutsugikuni4096
      @michikatsutsugikuni4096 11 месяцев назад +9

      The majority of men who are having a hard time to meet someone are decent, they have things going for them. I personally have followed every self improvement advice in the book for years and my dating life is still non-existent. Just because something worked for you doesn't necessarily mean it will work for others.

    • @hasanburakunal4536
      @hasanburakunal4536 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@michikatsutsugikuni4096 start with changing your pfp

    • @michikatsutsugikuni4096
      @michikatsutsugikuni4096 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@hasanburakunal4536 start changing your attitude towards men and other people in general

    • @j.d.s.8132
      @j.d.s.8132 10 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe because a fictional game character is not equal to real life as input doesn't mean there will be some output.

    • @takeoasylum1775
      @takeoasylum1775 10 месяцев назад +2

      I gave up quickly in life because no matter what I do, it's never enough. Plus, I attract the wrong people. I get some weird bad vibes from them and I don't want to interact with them. I'm better off alone

  • @dubzilla6978
    @dubzilla6978 11 месяцев назад +1

    Good lord I needed to hear this.

  • @hvnman_f4
    @hvnman_f4 11 месяцев назад

    Yep you said it man, know when, sometimes it is a flower, sometimes it is unleashing the forces of plutonic extremes and dealing with the consequences. That's the deal, to know when.

  • @EddEttor
    @EddEttor 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's a hard lesson to learn, but an essential one.

  • @dao_man_
    @dao_man_ 11 месяцев назад +3

    Max Scheler speaks to this: "...the root of Christian love is entirely free of ressentiment, but that ressentiment can very easily use it for its own purposes by simulating an emotion which corresponds to this idea. This simulation is often so perfect that even the sharpest observer can no longer distinguish real love from ressentiment which poses as love." Love does not serve life. Rather, it "gives life it's highest meaning and value."
    If love is in service to life as the highest good, then it will always be biological. Yet if love is the highest good, even life itself is in service to love and therefore may be sacrificed. Nice guys will never experience love because for them love will always be clouded by the pseudo-sacrifice of 'being nice'. That approach is inherently nihilistic. Genuine love "keeps no record of wrongs" and is entirely indifferent to our self-constructed idea of justice. It is free from ressentiment.

  • @Rynoverse
    @Rynoverse 5 месяцев назад

    Needed to hear this right now

  • @isaiahdanz3308
    @isaiahdanz3308 9 месяцев назад +2

    A incredible comprehension of ressentiment.
    Jordan Peterson could not be able to assess this ressentiment nowadays.

  • @evankirchmer
    @evankirchmer 11 месяцев назад +3

    “just be pleasing to G-d, bro”
    *edit: I mean God so I don’t appear weak

  • @Blitz4478549
    @Blitz4478549 11 месяцев назад

    Once again thank for your insight, always helpful

  • @coletrain546
    @coletrain546 11 месяцев назад +8

    Wow so people who've been winning at life since birth arent resentful, but most other people who do not win since birth you just expect them "just dont be resentful bro". Im increidibly resentful, my life has been shaped entirely by my appearance.

    • @coletrain546
      @coletrain546 11 месяцев назад +5

      @GIDEONgame I lost weight and my life took a 180° and improved dramatically. I regained it all back and it's back to square one. People are shallow.

    • @cybertron1000s
      @cybertron1000s 11 месяцев назад

      Apperancetards have negative rizz.

    • @anduro7448
      @anduro7448 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@coletrain546 not really square 1, more square 2 or 3. You lost it once and have the know how on how to actually lose it again.
      This time losing the weight will be significantly eazier, failed attempts pave the road to success

    • @coletrain546
      @coletrain546 10 месяцев назад +1

      @anduro7448 it's not easier, you're wrong. I've tried many times but my disordered eating has prevented success. I just took it for granted before.

    • @CB-pi5hc
      @CB-pi5hc 9 месяцев назад +1

      I feel for you. Lots of people overcome small challenges and feel superior to others. Some challenges cant be overcome. But if its just your looks, youre in luck, because thats not one of those challenges

  • @00Boogie
    @00Boogie 11 месяцев назад +4

    Another way to look at it is be the Chad Apostle, not the Virgin goodboy minister who never disobeyed his mother.
    I think for a lot of guys it's a surprise to learn being a good man means telling a lot of people no.

  • @c-man8566
    @c-man8566 11 месяцев назад +9

    we live in a gynocracy that upholds tolerance as the foremost virtue.
    change my mind.

    • @hoonterofhoonters6588
      @hoonterofhoonters6588 11 месяцев назад +2

      The longhouse creates its own enemies. Society bottom text.

  • @_innerscape_
    @_innerscape_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    About resentment, another reason for its arise is that you get told the world is full of rules, but later you discover life is a game (or just a ride, as Bill Hicks said) and the real game is to go against the rules (only idiots and good guys respect them), and that the most valued virtue in life and in the job market is the ability to lie. I'm serious. You want a job? You gotta lie in your resume to make it look better than it is, in the job interview you gotta act better than what you really are, gotta be ultra extroverted and a people's person even though you don't like almost anybody (and 'cmon, even without knowing the entire planet population, every one of us doesn't like most of it, don't be hypocrite), you can't say openly to anybody what you really think of them... you gotta be nice! You want to be accepted anywhere? You gotta be nice! Oh, but there's a difference and It's me sperging out and not getting the subtle intricacies of human relations. Yeah, maybe, but the amount of lying in every human interaction is too much for me.

  • @josueramirez7247
    @josueramirez7247 11 месяцев назад +1

    The idea about the warped will-to-power is very intriguing. Why might some be more inclined to be more underhanded?

  • @DJCatscratch
    @DJCatscratch 11 месяцев назад +41

    I was a niceguy as a highschooler and i paid the price in early university. It was very freeing to simply realize that a) i was a loser and b) i would have to work on bettering myself. That just opened the door to a new, exciting quest that never ends. Young people often think they are under an unbreakable curse, when they often would beneift from taking a brutally honest inventory of their lives. PS: if you are really in the dumps, unironically go try lifting some weights.

    • @killgriffinnow
      @killgriffinnow 11 месяцев назад +7

      “Unironically try lifting some weights”
      I’ve found doing things like getting a haircut or paying attention to clothing work wonders for self confidence. This is one thing women and girls get right that men overlook.

    • @DJCatscratch
      @DJCatscratch 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@killgriffinnow completely agree with you. Weights helped me build strength but also made be appreciate my physical reality more (getting myself out of the mind, into the body). Wearing betting clothes helped a ton too

    • @coleneil2239
      @coleneil2239 11 месяцев назад +8

      The problem with this mindset is not everyone needs improving. Improving can only go so far. Coming from someone obsessed with self improvement, at some point its societies point to either reflect on their ways, or get their fingers out of people's face. Save your blame. Seriously.

    • @DJCatscratch
      @DJCatscratch 11 месяцев назад

      @@coleneil2239 I think you might be thinking of "self-improvement" in a narrow way.

    • @itstimeforafuckingcrusade
      @itstimeforafuckingcrusade 11 месяцев назад

      ​@coleneil2239 What is better than self-improvement and constant becoming? Stagnation? Degradation?

  • @totallynoteverything1.
    @totallynoteverything1. 10 месяцев назад +1

    can you do a video on frutiger aero? I want to know your thoughts about it

  • @ZackSilver77
    @ZackSilver77 6 месяцев назад

    Im super kind to everyone i meet (unless they treat me poorly) including cute girls and it has taken me far. But you cant ONLY be nice. Women like a push and pull, they like drama, and no that doesnt mean toxicity, it means adventure.

  • @mumboslick89
    @mumboslick89 2 месяца назад +2

    Nietzsche wasn’t able to get a girlfriend so I don’t think he’s a reliable source for relationship advice.

    • @cutlersnyder
      @cutlersnyder Месяц назад

      Were you able to get a girlfriend Mumboslick?

  • @Rev_Danielle
    @Rev_Danielle 11 месяцев назад +40

    God helps those who help themselves

    • @bone6495
      @bone6495 11 месяцев назад +4

      So we work and he takes the credit?

    • @Rev_Danielle
      @Rev_Danielle 11 месяцев назад

      @@bone6495 he works through us

    • @Bazed.
      @Bazed. 11 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@bone6495how is helping someone taking credit for an action? In any case, who cares if you get zero credit? Is not the thing you worked for enough in of itself? You need “credit”(recognition?) now?

    • @xadxtya
      @xadxtya 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@bone6495Fr what kinda help we talkin

    • @warcrimeconnoisseur5238
      @warcrimeconnoisseur5238 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@bone6495He is a metaphysical "being"/realm he helps you in the way that you are allowed to be in the metaphysical plane

  • @mythriilthelearned
    @mythriilthelearned Месяц назад

    Cain’s relationship with God is very much like this. He did not do a direct and costly act of love, but chose the path of least resistance to himself. Love requires sacrifice and the responsibility to know there is a time for generosity, a time for cutting people off, a time for being reserved, and a time to kill.

  • @thorineichenschild4231
    @thorineichenschild4231 11 месяцев назад +1

    Action brings good fortune

  • @thirion1850
    @thirion1850 11 месяцев назад +1

    There is no virtue in weakness, which begets evil to reign.

  • @theburnedman..
    @theburnedman.. 11 месяцев назад +4

    Being who you are doesn’t work, tried it out tried out all of the self-improvement bullshit didn’t work dating is dead i’m not wasting my time walking for a modern woman i’ll just focus on my career

    • @MemeAnalysis
      @MemeAnalysis  11 месяцев назад +9

      Go under

    • @coleneil2239
      @coleneil2239 11 месяцев назад +3

      It is true. Modern society is sick and instead of reflecting on its own mistakes they created the "incel" boogeyman as someone to blame for all their problems. Either he's too nice or too resentful lol. Theres no winning if you're a white guy.

    • @TheGreenKnight500
      @TheGreenKnight500 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MemeAnalysisUnder where?
      Haha! You made me say underwear 😂

    • @theburnedman..
      @theburnedman.. 11 месяцев назад

      @@MemeAnalysis I don’t get it i’m not wasting my time with this crap. I tried it so many times it’s frustrating. I’m not an Incel. I have average looks. Why is it so hard

    • @miguelpatino3856
      @miguelpatino3856 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@MemeAnalysis I'm trying to understand

  • @Noud743
    @Noud743 11 месяцев назад +8

    Thank you for the valuable information. I do not identify as a 'nice guy' but I am trying to be nice, even though I'm not really. At a certain point you are saying thay you should not be kind, but you should be who you are. But what if your default state is not-niceness, because you are frying your brain with addictive behaviors? What if you are very lonely due to a lack of friends and no family? What if you are suffering from chronic fatigue and pain? What if you suffer from anxiety, anger and self-doubt due to a shitty childhood? What if you see the immeasurable potential in yourself but can't consistently make the right choices? I'm not saying you are wrong on your viewpoint; I'm just lost.

    • @fewstr
      @fewstr 11 месяцев назад +1

      look upwards to the incredible journey you have ahead of you. how exciting! not everyone has it all from the beginning, for some it takes a while.

    • @Telia1
      @Telia1 11 месяцев назад +2

      Patience and virtue traded from vices

    • @sabaoempo2320
      @sabaoempo2320 11 месяцев назад +7

      I think that what hes saying is that kindness is a consequence of your wholeness, that you achieve by working on yourself, being a better form of self by overcoming yourself. Kindness by itself, a "forced" kindness is just fake and doesnt have value.

  • @robotbjorn4952
    @robotbjorn4952 11 месяцев назад +4

    10000% on "niceness" being weakness masquerading as virtue.

  • @pb2325
    @pb2325 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice guys really did finish last. I think now it’s just ugly guys.

  • @tri.man.3
    @tri.man.3 11 месяцев назад +3

    Is all resentment unjustified? I don't want to repress it either.
    There is some type of blockage in me, from becoming what I am, some kind of fear.

    • @TheGreenKnight500
      @TheGreenKnight500 11 месяцев назад +1

      Reject Christianity, communism, and all other Abrahamic notions of morality. They are vampiric and want to keep you weak.

    • @tri.man.3
      @tri.man.3 11 месяцев назад

      oh, if i see myself as having a blockage i make a blockage and if i see myself as more i become more because i become as i am?
      i think, i’ve got it.

  • @FranciscoGarcia-hi3zx
    @FranciscoGarcia-hi3zx 9 месяцев назад

    It’s been a while. Miss this channel

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 11 месяцев назад +6

    Women don't like bad boys, there are no reliable studies that show it, what we do know reliably is that *looks* are most important at creating love for both men and women.
    Also if you look at all the bad boys that get attention and fangirls, they're all at minimum around 7/10 in looks, but usually even more so.
    "Nice guys" wouldn't exist if society was honest enough to tell young men that "If you're looks are suboptimal don't expect any gf any time soon and move on. She won't suddenly change your mind if you play nice"

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 11 месяцев назад +2

      Indeed. I often say that Chads are total jerks because they can get away with it.

  • @Firmus777
    @Firmus777 11 месяцев назад +6

    When I was a nice guy a girl I loved and who was very religious told me several times that I would make a good priest. I found the idea absurd because I'm a terrible Christian, if I am one at all. This video makes me think that she recognized the same kind of thing that is conveyed here. Maybe not consciously, but there was a realization that there were similar "vibes" so to say between nice guys and the kind of religious people Nietzsche criticized.
    Now I am thinking about how in the past nice guys could find their purpose in turning inward and becoming mystics. Or if they were crappy at that as well they could at least find a place on the edge of society. But today the idea is just not feasible. We are too alienated and weak, religion weakened and corrupted too much. There's more and more people like that and society is worse and worse at handling them. It is no wonder that there's so many shootings and instability. At least in the West.

    • @BlindBosnian
      @BlindBosnian 11 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting profile pic

    • @Firmus777
      @Firmus777 11 месяцев назад

      @@BlindBosnian thanks

    • @Autogenification
      @Autogenification 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's funny, I have an analogous experience to you. After a painful breakup with an ex, my therapist told me I'd make a great councillor/therapist. He made me realise that my 'nice guy' flavour was therapizing all my previous relationships and how that builds resentment in the other person by almost not allowing them to build and grow as they need to. Therapy has it's place, but not in a relationship (for the most part). Sounds like it's the same for you - Priesthood and spiritual healing shouldn't take place in the relationship the way you or I might feel inclined to fit it in; it's just a condition of our childhoods that have resulted in this behaviour.

    • @TheGreenKnight500
      @TheGreenKnight500 11 месяцев назад +2

      Reject the false Christ. Seek the true Christ that is already within you.

  • @Skeleton_Dork
    @Skeleton_Dork 10 месяцев назад +2

    Bro is becoming Psychoanalyst Andrew Tate

  • @christophersnedeker
    @christophersnedeker 10 месяцев назад

    Meek is not the samething as weakness. Meekness is a choice, it is restraint. The wise person knows when to be feirce and when to be gentle.

  • @krispr1me
    @krispr1me 11 месяцев назад +2

    Worth noting that you should pick your battles properly.
    Maybe the one that has your eye wants someone better looking and more exciting.
    But there are others out there that might find your modesty and "awkwardness" cute. You need to tune into THAT frequency and look for these girls.

  • @SeniorAdrian
    @SeniorAdrian 10 месяцев назад

    What lens are you using? Camera? Color corrected in DaVinci?

  • @Indianpsychonaut
    @Indianpsychonaut 11 месяцев назад

    I think there is a difference between being nice/pretending to be good & being kind. Kindness isn't an effort its an inherent aspect. All truly powerful people are kind as said by Takuan Soho, the mentor of Miyamoto Mushashi .

  • @stooleyqa
    @stooleyqa 9 месяцев назад

    WE NEED MORE VIDEOS!!

  • @ornitoplays6634
    @ornitoplays6634 11 месяцев назад +1

    Mememan, how am i to focus my will?
    I've 4 planets in Gemini

    • @MemeAnalysis
      @MemeAnalysis  11 месяцев назад +1

      The Key is it’s opposition in Sagittarius

    • @ornitoplays6634
      @ornitoplays6634 11 месяцев назад +1

      I've some planets there@@MemeAnalysis

  • @joguapo
    @joguapo 11 месяцев назад

    *smiling throughout the entire video*

  • @spiderbat8061
    @spiderbat8061 11 месяцев назад

    Very true on comparing nice guys/nerds to the life denial and slave morality of Christianity. Caught myself having some of those tendencies when younger and cleaned up my act. When I think of the ideal or strong will, I think of life affirming religions such as Greco-Roman Paganism during the Aeon of my Sun Sign ♈. The gods and heroes are muscular, the goddesses are beautiful, they fight battles and wars, they have sex, they have children. Rather than retreating away in solitude and being passive and celibate. Why deny this life for a supposed "next world"?

  • @bandito_kek
    @bandito_kek 11 месяцев назад

    Chucky meme had me in tears 😂

  • @jhairccorimanya1806
    @jhairccorimanya1806 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you memechadnalysis, my cousin needs to see this now and drop the nice guy act now.

    • @postcollapse1170
      @postcollapse1170 11 месяцев назад

      if you think 10 minute youtube videos are life changing for your cousin, your cousin is cursed, and cursed again.

  • @elantir9260
    @elantir9260 11 месяцев назад +1

    The book of Job is about the view of the believers that you described in the video: people who do right just waiting God to give them something in exchange.

    • @elantir9260
      @elantir9260 11 месяцев назад

      @GIDEONgame Actually, bro.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 11 месяцев назад

      @GIDEONgame Redditors just read it and conclude that God is an indifferent jerk.

  • @boristsonev1499
    @boristsonev1499 11 месяцев назад +4

    I cannot put into words how joyful this made me feel

  • @christophersnedeker
    @christophersnedeker 11 месяцев назад +1

    I kinda both agree and disagree with the idea that love is not good. Love is more then mere moralism as we typically understand it but let us be clear that it is more not less. Love is the fulfillment of the law. The law cannot fulfill itself but neither does love simply disregard the law.

  • @joewright4564
    @joewright4564 11 месяцев назад +1

    Yo, that ending gave me chills 😏

  • @JenniferAutumn
    @JenniferAutumn 11 месяцев назад +1

    you are my favourite teacher

  • @Bazed.
    @Bazed. 11 месяцев назад +2

    The religion of ressentiment that Nietzsche identified and that many modern men follow is a twisting of Christianity in my view. A relevant example; Saint Nicholas slapped and had a fist fight with Arius (according to iconography and tradition) at the Council of Nicea. That doesn’t seem like something a “nice guy” would do, yet he’s one of the most revered saints. Nietzsche obviously didn’t care about reaching a metaphysical truth, so did not care to research how the german Protestants that were the focus of his distain for Christianity were very different to the practitioners of 1400 years before in both praxis and ideology.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 11 месяцев назад

      I joke about getting modern holy men to show ZChrist like behavior to money changers.

  • @Achrononmaster
    @Achrononmaster 4 месяца назад

    This is a bit phreakin' twisted mate. Nietzsche was a dumbassincel. Being nice is only halfway to the good, and will-to-power or taking what you want is still half-way to the bad. The point about true religion/spirituality/virtue is that you don't have it if you're expecting a gold star reward. Although that's exactly what you said around @6:40 -- on, the better advice is not to just "be yourself" or "take what you want" but rather to grow spiritually. But while that's the opposite of what the memetic "nice guy" is aiming for, it's also the opposite of the chad who is simply stagnant in spirit. Chad wants to be forever young and buff, lol. Their demise just takes longer.

  • @alinbarba1418
    @alinbarba1418 4 месяца назад

    We have a saying in romanian:
    "Dumnezeu îți dă dar nu-ți bagă și în traistă"
    "God gives it to you, but he won't also put in your satchel"

  • @metalwellington
    @metalwellington 11 месяцев назад +1

    wise words. very interesting