As a Rolex owner I was always sceptical about all these chinese "hommages", and I was watch snob in general. But I must finally admit that it is perfect value for money. I will probably get this San Martin GMT rather then overpaying for Rolex Explorer II (I am not even saying that it is not possible to buy it from OD). Thanks for the review!
The black Bay is a homage to Rolex. So this is also a homage. With a far more legitimate price range. Rolex and Tudor are overcharging. Engineering impresses me, not greed. Bravo San Martin.
Let's be real, tudor can be a homage to rolex because its supposed to be the "cheaper alternative". These chinese "homages" are more of a replica than homage. I have nothing against the chinese "homages" but it's just a copy of everything except slapping their own name on it. P.S I own 2 "homage" watch, 2 rolex, and a tudor
Hey Joseph do you know how to use the internet ? Tudor came out with the black bay as a homage to its own watch dummy. Tudor introduced the reference 7922 Submariner in 1954. A TUDOR SUB. Not a homage to Rolex. Your welcome
@@KB-vf4gz There's no need to be insulting. The Tudor GMT is a Homage to its Rolex Explorer counterpart. The Black Bay in my view is just a Submariner with a different dial and hand set. Same design, therefore a homage.
Really informative, well shot review. Your enthusiasm for the watch convinced me to order the new nh34 powered version. Really liked the OG but was waiting on them correcting the lume. Would still like to see an ivory colour to better match the Tudor.
My vote for best bracelet under $500 is the glide lock bracelet on the Cronos Submariner homage. It is basically the same as a Rolex. I wish San Martin would make this style clasp.
Just bought the Black dial NH34 version for £215.00 including extra £44 off coupon ….yippee. Great review and definitely worth the money for such a well made watch. I received the San Martin Ranger homage last week and love it.
I concur about the bracelet. I have two of them and they are flawless. I rank it right there with my Strapcode that is on my vintage Seiko 6309. And you may not believe it, but it hangs right in there with my 2005 vintage Subbie bracelet.
Own this watch. It’s excellent. Only criticism is the bottom edges of the case are almost sharp they’re so 90 degree straight and would love to see 200m WR without making it any thicker. Personal preference would be for a more yellow than orange GMT hand and text on the dial. Otherwise faultless and amazing value.
Good to see my IG comparison post with the BB58 came to good use in your video 😜 Thanks to your video and the awesome 11:11 deal I just pulled the trigger on the newest version of this model with the Seiko movement 👌🏻
It's really disappointing that Tudor can't match the things San Martin got right with this one. I'd happily buy the Tudor if it was 2mm thinner to match this watch; I want the Tudor's finishing & movement, I want the Tudor dial and hands, and I love their bracelet + clasp... I just know I can't do the 14.5mm+ thickness. As it stands, I purchased this watch (with the Hangzhou 6860, terrific feel & performance) as soon as it was available. Best San Martin model yet, IMO, and best budget GMT on the market that I've seen. I wear mine almost every day and it's really, really great on the wrist
So minor for most but I wish the GMT text and hand were yellow like on the Tudor. They’ve made them more orange to pop enough against the off white dial version they’ve created (where they’d be great in red).
And the Addiesdive quartz version is even better than both ! Icing on the cake is that it is less than $50 delivered to your door !!! Quartz reliability and amazing accuracy for 1/3rd of the cheapest auto.
Perfect to me except for one thing. Not everyone noticed, but Tudor increased the distances between the 12, 3, 6 and 9 markers on some watches. For example, the Triangle at 12 is no longer aligned with the 11 and 1 markers, but it's significantly taller. I find this ruins the dial proportions, since unlike on a Submariner or BB58 where the markers form a circle, they now form a rhombus.
Very nice video. Thanks. I chose the Steinhart Rolex 1655 homage for about $645 USD. A bit more expensive but also a better movement (ETA elabore), imho. I also prefer my homages to be watches out of production rather than a current offering. Not sure if the Steinhart is better quality, otherwise, than the San Martin, but looks great to me. I actually own the Tudor Black Bay Pro, love it, but am concerned about wearing it in dodgy places so I wanted a cheaper alternative gmt. All the best.
Great video, really like your style of videos. This watch is on my to buy list but I'm in two minds whether it would benefit from a version with applied indices and I'm sort of holding out to see if san martin will release this. Having seen it in person what do you think? Would it benefit from applied indices? Thanks
Thanks! I appreciate your kind words! I think it looks great just as it is. San Martin released a new version with the NH34 GMT Movement but that doesn’t feature the “cut” baton marker at the 3 o’clock. In terms of applied indecies; if enough people want it, San Martin will make it. I think it would look good with applied markers but I also like the way it is right now. This version that I have is perfect in my eyes.
I bought the version you are reviewing and just yesterday bought the new version with nh34. Did no notice they had removed the marker at 3 o’clock. Would have preferred that baton had stayed on the dial. Got the new watch a 239 dollars which is more fair price bu with at huge discount. Very nice watch and great review 🙂👍
Easily my new favorite, my collection is at 15 at the moment with 75% being Casio. I bought this one maybe two months ago and i’ve only switched it out for a single night to go out in all black but I could’ve pulled it off with this one regardless 😂
I just got the black with applied indeces and logo for $250 US, unsure if it's the current conversion rate but San Martin is a lot cheaper now than it was even a year ago for the US.
that's true - I noticed that as well. Usually their newer Models are higher priced. As soon as the watch is a bit older, you can expect some nice discounts on it :) But, they also changed the movement of the watch. Now it's powered by the much cheaper NH34 instead of the high-beat 6460, which is more expensive to acquire I assume.
Orient Kamasu was my first watch but then watches they dont stop coming. Diver’s way to go for me. Add one GMT, a field watch and pilot watch then one dressy seiko cocktail or a orient bambino. Then if you can a rolex or a tudor. Thats it for me.
@@pinikpikantv3555 my watch came in today. Wow it's a beautiful timepiece. It has a nice build with very good quality. I am very impressed!! I will have to put a rubber strap on it for everyday wear.
I prefer the non-NH34 version because of the date window placement. But I get why people tend to gravitate the Seiko Movement. That said, I had no issues with mine so far.
@@ssolariss sorry mate no experience with San Martin. I got a Gshock and two Seiko, but thinking about getting a GMT one day. Check out the Random Rob chanel, he just got the SM Pepsi GMT.
@@drbobsnightmare2521 I know, saw that already, but he didn't say how good it runs, he just said it's "good". He doesn't care, he flips watches daily, maybe even several times a day 😂
Not sure who's charging that much but it's $140US during the sale , paying more usually means paying the jelly donut bill for a thieving middle man soaking in someone else's hard earned money! or fuel for bezos rockets
Great watch for the money no doubt but there is no way I’m wearing a watch with snowflake hands if it’s not a Tudor. You want snowflake hands you pay for them.
@@thewatchfemme4051 ah fair enough. Always thought it was a bit of a marketing gimmick, if you a took a master swiss watchmaker to australia. The watches wouldnt be swiss made technically but would be of the same quality
Update: This watch is going to cost 295$ in the upcoming 11.11. Sale. I think it’s a no brainier for that price!
Phenomenal review. I loved the quality of the shots you took, and thought your points were insightful as well. Keep it up!
@@nathanbrunk9243 thanks mate! I appreciate it :)
seeing your review made me bought the nh34 version today
keep up the good videos bro !
Actually it’s 250 with a 50 dollar code (the NH34 version)
As a Rolex owner I was always sceptical about all these chinese "hommages", and I was watch snob in general. But I must finally admit that it is perfect value for money. I will probably get this San Martin GMT rather then overpaying for Rolex Explorer II (I am not even saying that it is not possible to buy it from OD). Thanks for the review!
The black Bay is a homage to Rolex. So this is also a homage. With a far more legitimate price range. Rolex and Tudor are overcharging. Engineering impresses me, not greed. Bravo San Martin.
Let's be real, tudor can be a homage to rolex because its supposed to be the "cheaper alternative". These chinese "homages" are more of a replica than homage. I have nothing against the chinese "homages" but it's just a copy of everything except slapping their own name on it.
P.S I own 2 "homage" watch, 2 rolex, and a tudor
Hey Joseph do you know how to use the internet ? Tudor came out with the black bay as a homage to its own watch dummy. Tudor introduced the reference 7922 Submariner in 1954. A TUDOR SUB. Not a homage to Rolex. Your welcome
@@KB-vf4gz There's no need to be insulting. The Tudor GMT is a Homage to its Rolex Explorer counterpart. The Black Bay in my view is just a Submariner with a different dial and hand set. Same design, therefore a homage.
Beautiful watch! I have two San Martin watches and am also impressed with their build quality.
Had mine for like 2 weeks, I love it. Haven’t taken it off my wrist yet
can't blame you, I felt the same :)
Really informative, well shot review. Your enthusiasm for the watch convinced me to order the new nh34 powered version. Really liked the OG but was waiting on them correcting the lume. Would still like to see an ivory colour to better match the Tudor.
My vote for best bracelet under $500 is the glide lock bracelet on the Cronos Submariner homage. It is basically the same as a Rolex. I wish San Martin would make this style clasp.
Just bought the Black dial NH34 version for £215.00 including extra £44 off coupon ….yippee. Great review and definitely worth the money for such a well made watch. I received the San Martin Ranger homage last week and love it.
Even better now with the NH34. Just ordered one for £203 (240usd)
I concur about the bracelet. I have two of them and they are flawless. I rank it right there with my Strapcode that is on my vintage Seiko 6309. And you may not believe it, but it hangs right in there with my 2005 vintage Subbie bracelet.
Own this watch. It’s excellent. Only criticism is the bottom edges of the case are almost sharp they’re so 90 degree straight and would love to see 200m WR without making it any thicker. Personal preference would be for a more yellow than orange GMT hand and text on the dial. Otherwise faultless and amazing value.
Soften the edge with 800grit
Good to see my IG comparison post with the BB58 came to good use in your video 😜 Thanks to your video and the awesome 11:11 deal I just pulled the trigger on the newest version of this model with the Seiko movement 👌🏻
haha thanks for watching! :)
I love the mood lighting during the specifications :P Thanks for the review, I might pick one of these up to check out :)
Great review. Very thorough and very honest.
Great finish on the case and bracelet!
It's really disappointing that Tudor can't match the things San Martin got right with this one. I'd happily buy the Tudor if it was 2mm thinner to match this watch; I want the Tudor's finishing & movement, I want the Tudor dial and hands, and I love their bracelet + clasp... I just know I can't do the 14.5mm+ thickness.
As it stands, I purchased this watch (with the Hangzhou 6860, terrific feel & performance) as soon as it was available. Best San Martin model yet, IMO, and best budget GMT on the market that I've seen. I wear mine almost every day and it's really, really great on the wrist
Tudors aren’t for noodle wrists. That should be obvious by now
It’s really good for the price, I have far more expensive watches but this one punches above its weight.
So minor for most but I wish the GMT text and hand were yellow like on the Tudor. They’ve made them more orange to pop enough against the off white dial version they’ve created (where they’d be great in red).
And the Addiesdive quartz version is even better than both !
Icing on the cake is that it is less than $50 delivered to your door !!!
Quartz reliability and amazing accuracy for 1/3rd of the cheapest auto.
Perfect to me except for one thing. Not everyone noticed, but Tudor increased the distances between the 12, 3, 6 and 9 markers on some watches. For example, the Triangle at 12 is no longer aligned with the 11 and 1 markers, but it's significantly taller. I find this ruins the dial proportions, since unlike on a Submariner or BB58 where the markers form a circle, they now form a rhombus.
Very nice video. Thanks. I chose the Steinhart Rolex 1655 homage for about $645 USD. A bit more expensive but also a better movement (ETA elabore), imho. I also prefer my homages to be watches out of production rather than a current offering. Not sure if the Steinhart is better quality, otherwise, than the San Martin, but looks great to me. I actually own the Tudor Black Bay Pro, love it, but am concerned about wearing it in dodgy places so I wanted a cheaper alternative gmt. All the best.
Thanks for watching! Yeah the Steinhart is a great Option as well and features a better Movement for sure.
I think that they now have an NH34 version for $250 in the 11/11 sale
Could you share the link?
Really great review. This is a good looking clomage.
I bought the White dialed one but from Sugess instead, their white dial is actually white, looks so much better than the off white.
San martin just released this one with a perfectly white dial, just 157 dollars with the current early 11.11 sale. Looks very good tbf
Man, I have a ribbed mustard NATO that’s is perfect for this!
Great video, really like your style of videos. This watch is on my to buy list but I'm in two minds whether it would benefit from a version with applied indices and I'm sort of holding out to see if san martin will release this. Having seen it in person what do you think? Would it benefit from applied indices? Thanks
Thanks! I appreciate your kind words!
I think it looks great just as it is. San Martin released a new version with the NH34 GMT Movement but that doesn’t feature the “cut” baton marker at the 3 o’clock.
In terms of applied indecies; if enough people want it, San Martin will make it. I think it would look good with applied markers but I also like the way it is right now. This version that I have is perfect in my eyes.
I bought the version you are reviewing and just yesterday bought the new version with nh34. Did no notice they had removed the marker at 3 o’clock. Would have preferred that baton had stayed on the dial. Got the new watch a 239 dollars which is more fair price bu with at huge discount.
Very nice watch and great review 🙂👍
I hope so!! Waiting on my black dial now from 11/11, $239USD😁. Great review!
Easily my new favorite, my collection is at 15 at the moment with 75% being Casio. I bought this one maybe two months ago and i’ve only switched it out for a single night to go out in all black but I could’ve pulled it off with this one regardless 😂
yeah, I agree with you there. I think it's one of the nicest San Martin watches out there. :)
Just took delivery of mine! 🙂
congrats! hope you'll enjoy it! :)
I just got the black with applied indeces and logo for $250 US, unsure if it's the current conversion rate but San Martin is a lot cheaper now than it was even a year ago for the US.
that's true - I noticed that as well. Usually their newer Models are higher priced. As soon as the watch is a bit older, you can expect some nice discounts on it :)
But, they also changed the movement of the watch. Now it's powered by the much cheaper NH34 instead of the high-beat 6460, which is more expensive to acquire I assume.
@@quality_times I agree!
Right on
The GMT hand, moves in one hour increments 🙂
you are right, that was a mistake on my part. Thank you for the correction!
Great review
I like it, but I prefer the white one myself.
the white one is stunning too!
Klasse Review ! Im Warenkorb wird mir die Uhr allerdings noch mit 377€ angezeigt. Wie komme ich denn auf die 295€ 🤔 ? Viele Grüße ✌️
With bespoke hands and dial this watch would go from straight homage to a San Martin design with homage aspects.
🔥🔥🔥
Probably I will swap my new Seiko SKK GMT for this one.
Can't be any thicker than the original!
Would you buy this over the orient Kamasu? Thanks
Orient Kamasu was my first watch but then watches they dont stop coming. Diver’s way to go for me. Add one GMT, a field watch and pilot watch then one dressy seiko cocktail or a orient bambino. Then if you can a rolex or a tudor. Thats it for me.
@@pinikpikantv3555 my watch came in today. Wow it's a beautiful timepiece. It has a nice build with very good quality. I am very impressed!! I will have to put a rubber strap on it for everyday wear.
Do you know how does the GMT works? I have this watch but dont know how to set the GMT correctly.
Pull crown out one click like you're going to change the date, but turn the crown counterclockwise. GMT hand will jump backward in 1-hour increments
Ty
The same model with NH34 is might be better inside.👍
I prefer the non-NH34 version because of the date window placement. But I get why people tend to gravitate the Seiko Movement. That said, I had no issues with mine so far.
Why did the bracelet bind up at 10:18? Not the best.
This watch has the Seiko movement now, no?
yes, they offer it now with the NH34 GMT Movement at a slightly cheaper price.
Link to the watch is no good 😊
thanks, I updated it! :)
Can anyone tell what's the movement accuracy, actual not on paper.
It runs slow, about 24 hours a day slow. But accuracy improved after I wound the crown.
@@drbobsnightmare2521 lol, cool you figured that one out 😂 But for real, if you own one, what is it?
@@ssolariss sorry mate no experience with San Martin. I got a Gshock and two Seiko, but thinking about getting a GMT one day. Check out the Random Rob chanel, he just got the SM Pepsi GMT.
@@drbobsnightmare2521 I know, saw that already, but he didn't say how good it runs, he just said it's "good". He doesn't care, he flips watches daily, maybe even several times a day 😂
Mine 0.0 seconds at day. I got very lucky.
Don't need the GMT movement
Not sure who's charging that much but it's $140US during the sale , paying more usually means paying the jelly donut bill for a thieving middle man soaking in someone else's hard earned money! or fuel for bezos rockets
It's not quite perfect -- had they used a Miyota 9075, then it'd have been perfect.
Agreed!
Great watch for the money no doubt but there is no way I’m wearing a watch with snowflake hands if it’s not a Tudor. You want snowflake hands you pay for them.
At these prices, you're far better off getting a Swiss made Christopher Ward.
why?
“Swiss Made”
@@thewatchfemme4051 Yes but explain why that makes it better?
@@JacK-yr8ri I don’t think it does, I was using quotes in an attempt to be humorous. 😄
@@thewatchfemme4051 ah fair enough. Always thought it was a bit of a marketing gimmick, if you a took a master swiss watchmaker to australia. The watches wouldnt be swiss made technically but would be of the same quality
No.
Haha thanks for contributing to the conversation with your insightful and meaningful comment 😅