I’ve been a Paramedic for 30 yrs. 6 of them in the Detroit area. I’m telling you 22LR gets it done. Anyone that would say otherwise needs to do my job for a while.
Great video. I'm 62, big guy, but have developed terrible autheritis in my wrists. I can still shoot my 9 mm, 357 and 38 but after 10 rounds my wrists start hurting and swelling, even with wrist strap glove. I've moved to 22lr so I can practice with 50-100 rounds twice a week with no pain. Better to hit with 22 than miss with 9mm.
Personally, I am SO much more accurate and faster with a .22LR snubby than any centerfire handgun. And add in all the other rimfire benefits and it's a no brainer that I'm better served and protected by my laser guided Ruger LCR22.
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@ Odysseus Mavrigata Haha, that's when a farmer walks up to his hog who's just chilling and shoots it in the head with usually, a .22LR RIFLE. Are you an assassin or something? A self defense shooting is not this; nor can you conceal carry a .22LR RIFLE.
@@1truefreedomfighter LOL right. Actually you put a sharp thin butcher knife in their throat pointing down towards the heart, then you flick it around to slit the aorta. When the blood starts flowing well, you know you've got it.
I spent the better part of a 35 year career as a firefighter/EMT on an ambulance and I can testify to the fact that a 22 IS viable. In my experience the overwhelming majority of firearm related deaths were 22 caliber.
@@chriss9187 if u can find something that simulates a human body n shot a 22 round into it, then you'll see what it actually does. Then we'll talk. ✌️👍
I knew a guy who was shot with a .22LR while he was working on his house. He felt something he thought was a bad wasp sting in the middle of his back. He tried climbing down the ladder but passed out as he got to the bottom. Recovering, he managed to reach a phone and call for help. Then he passed out again and woke up in a hospital. The doctor told him he'd been shot by a .22LR and that he'd come "this close" to dying. The police found the spot where two boys had stopped briefly to shoot a .22LR pistol. They did a chart from where the gun had been fired and it was (are you ready?) just over a mile away! They hadn't tried to hit him as they couldn't have even seen him from that distance. The police found the shell casings, but never located the boys, and I'm glad they didn't. These lousy states outlaw anywhere a person can shoot, so if someone wants to fire their gun --- say, to test fire it --- they can't. So I'm very sympathetic to those who shoot stop signs and shoot in places they shouldn't. The point of the story is that a round (a CCI Mini-Mag), probably fired from a Ruger Mark-series pistol, can almost kill a person from a frickin' mile away! People who underestimate the power of a .22LR, go right ahead and underestimate! With 9-10 shots from a Ruger Mark -series pistol, I think I can put down King Kong on steroids. Yeah, I've heard the stories about people taking hits with multiple .38 Spc rounds and living to wreak havoc on others, but .38 rounds go in and go out. A .22LR tends to stay in the body. And when they hit one after another, wham! wham! wham!, I don't think many people can take it, especially when there's one or two to the head. I'll take a .22LR any day for self defense.
Something that gets ignored for the most part is collateral damage. Once that round leaves the barrel, the shooter is often liable for any and all damage it causes, whether it's a legitimate self-defense scenario or not. This is a strong pro for the .22. Missed shots will do less damage, strikes will not likely exit, and as said here, weapon size and round expense will also likely encourage proficiency. Additionally, a high quality .22 pistol can be had for not much more than most "entry level" 9mm pistols.
I really like this well thought out video. I have shot a long time. I am well into being a senior citizen. I need glasses. I really can no longer fire one-handed with .44 mag, and not well even with a .40 or 9mm. So I think of home self defense. I am awakened and I am in bed, I grab my firearm. I am not wearing glasses or hearing protection (nor is my wife). I am flat on my back using one hand to shoot, the other to hold myself in a sitting position. I do keep two handguns -- a .40 Glock like you carry (and I carry), and a Ruger Mark III Hunter (target pistol essentially with thread barrel) -- suppressed. At "in-house distances" (mean 5-10 yards where almost all self-defense gun fight occur) I can place in the X ring with one had easily (laser does not hurt, zeroed at 7 yards). If I fire the .40 in my bedroom my wife and I will suffer permanent hearing damage up to, and including, deafness. Just tactically if you take out one bad guy but can no longer hear ... what about other bad guys in the house? If I get the job done with the .22 great. I use non-hollow point high velocity rounds that will penetrate 13" in gel as a rule (CCI mini-mags are good as are Eley Target Ammo -- both will go through a 6-pack lined up at 10 yards easily -- make it cheap soda :-) ). Two to the gut, two to the chest, two to the face, fight over. And easy to do -- shot placement even with one hand is excellent. But this is -- as you you said -- based on me and my abilities. 40 years ago I would have done the same ... with a .357 magnum and been to dumb to know I'd be deaf the rest of my life. Yes -- if the house if flooded with bad guys and I get my glasses on and get standing I'll probably switch to the .40 which two hand I do shoot pretty well. So it is not a one or the other -- I have both options. I'd like to get it done and still hear, and I think I can do that better with the .22 -- you also pointed out that shooting 500 rounds of .357 and you'll be hurting. So true now. I won't shoot more than 6 rounds of .44 mag or 1-2 magazines of 10mm -- I'm hurting by then. I will shoot 50 rounds a week (in one sitting) with the .40 ... and 2-400 .22 rounds a week in the same sitting. And the .40 is what beats me up. But that is what I usually carry. Occasionally I carry a Beretta .22 mouse gun -- when it is 115 degrees out and I am in a venue of shorts and t-shirts. Or when wearing a tux at a wedding. Or other times when you need something that small to be able to carry. Not ideal. So this video is exactly right -- skill level, age, ability, eye sight, situation, practice (includes cost AND beating up) -- all factor in. There is no such thing as knock down power when you miss the target. The reason for two to the gut first -- they will penetrate and cause bleeding and pain. Perhaps not so much in the chest. And the head -- better be from upper lip to top of eyes. So those gut shots may not be ideal -- but they will start the process of stopping the opponent pretty well I suspect.
Thanks for this, I purchased a Ruger SR22 a year ago after a stolen car was abandoned in front of my home. I have a bad shoulder and was worried I wouldn't be able to safely manage a larger caliber. I have been taking training classes & going to the range at least 3 times a month. I fell in love with the SR22's accuracy even at longer distances. After trying different 22LR ammo, I've come to think there is no better 22LR than CCI mini mag. True the HP won't open unless it hits a solid, but the CCI mini mag FMJ does a nice tumble in jell. There are video ballistic tests for the mini mag HP, FMJ, Valositor & stinger.
Hi, just happened on your video. I have been concealed carrying for about 45 years. The first 15 or 16 I only carried a snub nosed Charter arms pathfinder chambered in 22. With the chance of a bad primer I could just pull the trigger again If needed. I would never feel under armed with a 22 revolver. I really enjoyed your video and will look for more of them. Please keep at it. You give a common sense approach to concealed carrying. Thank you for posting, kenny
Shot placement is key. 22lr mouse gun in your pocket, two shots in the head/face or two shots in the heart and its goodnight. No recoil, small, light but very effective.
Good rundown on the basic pros and cons of a carry gun decision. This focuses on carrying a 22 for defense and doesn't mention the home defense aspect with a 22 rifle/carbine. The longer barrel length of a rifle improves the performance of a 22 enough IMO, to push it into a very credible category for home defense. As part of a home defense system that may include other firearms, even more so. Real life occurrences prove that good, bad or indifferent, 22 LR rifles are used successfully to defend lives.
I agree. 22lr in the rifle platform makes it a much more effective defensive round. My Marlin 795 with loaded with mini mags is lightweight, maneuverable, and deadly accurate
I liked the video but I wanted to make sure I highlight one small thing that is obvious to 90% of us if not more, but to some others may not be.... You cannot just pull your gun any time you want or in every situation, you will be charged if you do. Make sure you read and know your state laws. Thanks
Several nice semi-auto rifles out too. Hammerli TAC R1, S&W 15-22, Colt M4-22, H&K416-22. All have ~25 rd mags(unless in CA 10rd limit) and are quite effective.
Really appreciate you taking the time to bring forth this video, many great points. I am a veteran and CCW permit holder. My firearm of choice is an M&P Shield in 9mm with specialized ammo. My wife being rather petite still has some reservations with 9mm, .38 spcl. and .357 mag. She loves shooting the custom Ruger 10/22 I put together for her. A quality, highly accurate .22 LR or .22 Mag. may be a great option for her. Thanks again!
Warning shots should only be aimed at the heart or face....for humans! I carry 9mm daily.... however, I've got a Ruger 10/22 with 25 rounds ready to go for home defense...loaded with 40 grain mini-mags for penetration and reliability Shot placement and not going blind and deaf are more important to me, in the home, than Ft. lbs. of energy.
Ruger 10/22 Silent SR ISB with 2000 rounds of CCI standard for me in my GTFOOD backpack. Along with basic camping supplies, a week's worth of dehydrated food, water purification tabs, a lifestraw, a decent first aid kit & couple of Israelis. 60 pounds. But walk into the mountains in 10 minutes at any time ready.
Excellent Video I get a kick out of some of these people who think you got to have these tactical weapons with very expensive rounds and do combat training for self defense just use your head and practice reasonably with any caliber and number one rule be aware of your surroundings and don’t put yourself in a situation you can’t get out of
Folks get killed every day by some yahoo who never fired a gun before in their life...we go to the range weekly, but some yahoo letting off a round of whatever in his backyard can put my lights out that quick...and even the most modern tacticool body armor wearing .44 magnums on both hips types are not immune to the far away stray bullet falling out of the sky...
I live in what I would call a safe suburban neighborhood but I've had to pull a gun twice to end to a situation that could've gone 2 ways. In both cases I had center fires and I put a laser sight on someone's chest. Without ever firing a shot the threat was immediately gone, and by "immediately" I mean they were hauling ass.. I have a 12 year old daughter that has recently started staying at home by herself and as an over protective dad It makes me very nervous. With that being said I decided it was time for her to learn to handle a firearm. I have a fairly extensive gun collection but the 22lr was a simple choice for her age and size. I don't care how big and bad you are, even a 22lr with proper placement will bring you to your knees, if it doesn't kill you then someone will be wiping the drool off chin for the rest of your life. After taking her out shooting I added a laser sight and have it dialed in at 20yards. If anything ever happens hopefully the laser will end the situation and deter the criminal, but if not she knows what she has to do.... put the laser dot right in the middle of their face and pull the trigger... I will not allow my self to be one of those parents wishing I would've done something different and I refuse to sugar coat it. I truly appreciate your video. I pray to god my daughter never has to use a firearm for protection but you never know what problems may come up...as she gets older the caliber will continue to go up. I'm glad I finally posted my statement because have to know my child has some sort of advantage just incase some mother fucker would ever decide that my door was the one they're gonna kick in and I'm not there to protect her... My house has security cameras but a camera won't stop anybody.
Flash Hammerstein same here my daughter is 10 and I've been showing her how to properly handle a fire arm for self defense and for recreational use only
Some people might not be so quick to permanently take someone else away from there family. Threats are almost always enough(If it wasn't the macho usually die first). If we lived in your world it would be terrible. There's always someone willing to spout that macho b.s. thankfully most of us recognize it as such.
Your video & plus audio were excellent. Thanks for the use of an external microphone. The content was great too. Good advice! As you know more & more manufacturers are seeing it your way (both guns & 22LR). But, like most everything now days, there is lots of misinformation. As a Vietnam vet., let me inform everybody, that there are many died VC due to close in head & body shots. In North Vietnam, our men serving in North Vietnam used 22LR ammo to solve issues using guns with sound suppressors behind the lines. I one reported it due to the rules of engagement.
This is by far the best 22lr. for defense video I have ever saw. One thing that a lot of people never consider is the people like me who start to flinch and thus pull the shot, not at the thought of recoil, but at the anticipation of muzzle blast. I have a .204 Ruger I can't fire it more than five times or so before I start flinching. That's OK because it's a hunting round and I wouldn't be making that many shots with it and thanks to a lot of training with a .22 rifle I am a decent shot. But I can't go threw a cylinder of my .38 special revolver before I start flinching bad. Now, maybe if I could put thousands of rounds down range that would go away, but I am disabled and can't afford that.
I carry a 22lr as a dayly. My wife carries the same. We are both ccw card holders. We carry the same weapon for continuity of use. If she or I go dry we can share. A 22lr is a lethal as a .50 desert eagle. Shot placement is critical. You can't miss fast enough to save your life. Train with bulk and use pistol ammo for defence. It is deffenetly better than a stick or a rock. I carry my k-bar for the sticks and a 22lr for the rest. If you can't go armed don't go. Gun free zones only work when everyone ( including the bad guys ) don't carry. If some one stays I can't take it I don't need to be there. If you think I am not armed 24/7 365. You need to think again. Train. Place a empty case somewhere in the mag. Shoot and practice tap rack shoot. Use spent cases to simulate malfunctions and jams. Training, and shot placement are key. Some will say " what if it's a fat guy? It won't penetrate." Well he won't chase far ither. If he has a gun then put them in a good location. Knee hip hands head. Be accurate. Body armor is the same issue and is easy to get. But seariously. Don't be a willing victome. Shoot back. A 22short will kill as fast as a 308 hunting rifle. Just not as far away. Please just arm yourself. The life you save may be your own.
I've been shooting handguns for 40 years now. I grew up with guns as the norm.ive owned a little of everything at one time or another. Right now I have a couple of 9mm pistols and at least one ..45. my .22 pistols are shot many times more than any other guns I have.i can't afford to buy and shoot 500 rounds a week of center fire ammo, I can and do average 500 rounds every week and more with my current favorite .22. a Taurus TX22 with 17 rd capacity. Long story shorter, I can consistently put rounds on a target, rapid fire at 15 to 20 yards. My edc is a 9 mm and I shoot it well, But nowhere near like the .22. For that reason, I carry the .22 as backup and i don't feel undergunned if I choose to carry just the .22. Good info! thanks for the video. MJC
I've been shooting firearms since about 1968 or 69. As a kid I shot a lot of 22LR rounds. Possibly around 1,500 to 1,700. And I did have some 22LR's that misfired, I can remember about 5 or 6 rounds that didn't go bang. Then as an adult I bought a Ruger Single-Six to practice and get good at shooting a gun. So I got 6 boxes of 550 rounds and threw them all down range. Cleaned the gun about every 200 or so rounds. It took me about two weeks to get them all fired up. And truthfully I had only one misfire out of all these rounds. Its true that 22LR rounds misfire, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that 22LR is so unreliable a round that it can't be used for self defense. A clean gun or rifle in 22LR could be used for self defense in my opinion. Be prepared to fire more than one round in a tense situation though.
My LCR22 holds 8 rounds of Federal Punch and I will have NO PROBLEM getting at least 4 of those rounds into a moving perp's head at 15 yards. I don't do public/commercial range practice - that makes no sense as most of these ranges have restrictions as to how and where any handgun can be fired. I have my own personal range and do 15 yard live fire drills into life size targets under stressful and trying conditions, with double hold strong hand and single hold strong and support hands.
Home defense should begin with an alarm system. No one should show up at your bedroom door unannounced. There are many inexpensive systems that sound alarms whenever a door or window is breached. Most times this alone will scare off an intruder, and give you time to set up a defensive posture.
.22LR is a valid defense round to a trained shooter (who shoots well, on target). I used to put 500 rounds down range per week of 45ACP back in the eighties (a competitive practical pistol shot). The thought of firing a .45ACP in my house fills me with dread and will kill my ears - also a musician. What I’m trying to say is that I would use the lowest powered round possible. P.
GunCollector007 I totally agree! The .22LR has fed many of people over hundreds of years and can and will stop a threat! Nothing to glory about, but History has proven its the most used cartridges used for homicide and assassination purposes!!!!
Good video. I saw first hand the results a single 22LR to the human head many years ago. The shot entered the forehead dead centre just above the eyebrows. This is a quite thick part of the skull. The bullet traversed the brain and came to rest at the back of the skull in the ocipital region (as viewed on the CAT scan). It did not exit the skull. Needless to say the individual did not recover. With good shot placement it works.
I read a study of gunshot victims that concluded that multiple bullet wounds is statistically more dangerous then a single bullet wound of any caliber... So multiple 22 hits is better than a single hit of a larger round
Great advice to practice and to effectively put rounds on target in multiple situations, regardless of caliber. If you miss the target, it doesn't matter what caliber firearm you use.
Excellent video and a very good point made that the mainstream gun culture constantly debates about. And that is we carry to stop the threat. The goal is to stop the attacker, not kill. I'm a big proponent of using small caliber pistols for self defense. Are they lethal? yes. 22lr, 25acp, 32acp, 380acp can all kill.
Today, about 45% of American don’t have $400 cash on hand or in the bank to use immediately! Plus now the ammunitions are very expensive. So you are right, Cost does matter!
Bought my wife a taurus pt-22. She's a beginner. Its comfy has a very easy to operate safety it's easy to conceal and it's deadlier than a knife. A 22lr with do more damage than an ice pick and she carries 8+1 ready to stab. She calls it her noisy cricket.
You can practice with a .22lr and carry another option. Most of that training carries through to other calibers. I personally use a .22lr for an everyday carry, even though I have other options. It's light, small, and I don't care if I bang it up etc. I like the feel of my 9mm or my 40, but I carry the .22lr.
Ive several firearms one of which is a 22lr walther p22. Always liked how fast i could draw it and place 10 rounds down range more accurately then my beretta bu9 nano in 9mm. I like how i can buy a box of 500 cheap Remington high velocity ammo for 30 bucks compared to buying a hundred rounds 9mm for 20 in brass casing. I am a good shot, ive practiced with rifles, pistols, ar’s, shotguns, bows, and crossbows. I like to decertify myself from any one platform or caliber. Ive been in multiple debates over this same subject but always and still do think if u have it, can shoot it, and it works for u; then carry it by all means. Great video guy. Good educational and diverse discussion over the whole caliber superiority topic that honestly is to over done. In my personal and professional opinion, any round is effective depending on shot placement and like u said the shooters mindset.
how come i cant hit 6-20 ft on sights but 50-80 yards i can hit bottles cans and wood without the sights yelling yeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw, was i reincarnated or astigmatism
Someone once asked, what is the best camera to carry for taking photographs? The answer is the same as the answer for guns for self-defense. The best gun for self-defense is the gun you have immediate access to. Better a 22LR in hand, than a 9mm locked away in a safe or in the trunk of your car. You don't pass up the shot or not defend yourself simply because you simply don't have the right gun with you.
There very first time I heard of what we would now call a mass shooting at a school was a woman named Brenda Spencer. She used a Ruger 10/22 with a scope. She killed 2 and wounded 8 or 9 others. I know an army vet that uses the same gun as their bedside weapons when things go bump in the night. Use whatever you can shoot accurately.
i agree and i disagree about the 22LR, in an autoloader pistol or rifle i believe its(22) ok, in a bolt or lever not so much, in a pump rifle doable with practice, in a revolver depends on how easy and smoothly the double action pulls (6 to 10 misses don't count). but all bets are off if they are shooting at you with anything so then it becomes what you are most comfortable and proficient with. a centerfire pistol is harder to control if your upset and rattled. in close quarters a "cold steel gurka kukuri" will do an unbelievable amount of damage compared to a 44 mag 45acp or 357 mag. one swipe can take off an arm or even a head, a real hard strong swing will take off a leg or cut them in two, sorry this is off subject. but a 22 is better than nothing, no one wants to get shot.... even with a 22
I keep the 22lr by the bed. 1: ammo cost to practice? 22lr by far cheapest. 2: reliability? CCI Minimag or Stingers. 3: compact People always down the 22lr as a HD round. the thing is...practice, if you own a firearm you should practice with it until it becomes an extension of your body anyway. Shot placement is key..therefore practice, thats how you get good at shot placement. There is nothing wrong with 22lr as a defensive round if you have dedicated the time and effort to practice. i have other firearms (556, 12ga, 9mm) but i prefer the 22lr. Through much practice/range time i have become very efficeint/proficeint with all of my firearms, but when it comes down to it the first one ill pick up in a HD situation is one of my 22lrs.
I've been in a self defense situation in the past. I feel very comfortable and land my shots well with my SW 22 Victory. If It was the only thing I had I would use it because I'm confident enough in my ability to use it. I fired over like 4k rounds of CCI and Federal into that thing. Moving shots are things you need to definitely practice. I do only use good ammo like the ones you've shown us here, but I personally have not experienced any serious jamming issues yet. Most of my issues stem from mag problems. I clean my guns every time after I shoot them. There again, I only have 2 .22 guns so I'm not all that experienced with the issues you've mentioned.
As someone who loves the physics behind how something works, and just an overall gunnut. I think you covered pretty much everything. It was a great informational video, and very professionally approached. Edited part.. I use a Taurus g2c as my edc, but my home defense rigs are 2 cheaper 22lr rifles that I've ran 4500, and 2000 rounds thru with minimal failures. The rossi rs22 (2000 rounds) just runs smoothly.. No new parts yet. The other being the savage model 64 (4500 rounds). About 8 500 round bulk packs of ammunition later needed a new magazine. After the new mag another 500 brick no proplem....... For those who want to look into cheaper options.
I got a 25 round 22lr rifle. I can unload the clip so quickly and due to the little recoil my accuracy is superb and I’m no way an experienced shooter. I don’t understand the hate of a 22lr. Idc how big you are, if you’re coming at me and I’m aiming my rifle at you, you’re going down. Sure, maybe when compared to 1 9mm round vs 1 22lr then the stopping power matters. But, I’m pretty sure 5 well placed shots that come out in an instant will do the job plenty fine.
@@uchihajoel3064 A shotgun with one time trigger push give instant 150 bullets (pellets) and the new semi auto shotguns have magazines, for me is the best home defense weapon
Love the Fender shirt. I'm on Team Fender myself. It's a better choice than none at all. In fact, it may not be a bad choice especially for someone brand new, very young, very old or infirm. Light recoil and minimal muzzle rise are huge advantages.
I see the logic in using the .22LR for self-defense (a mouse gun) BUT you must make your 1st three or four shots count as in hitting the head and/or the "deadly triangle" (head to the nipples). The reasons most professionals & people who actually get into gun fights say NOT TO USE a .22LR are: - In real-life self-defense incidents the 1st two to three shots are the most effective. All other shots are not useful due to the dynamic nature of gun fights. - the power of your handgun is in *shot placement* so whatever caliber you use doesn't really matter. Hitting vital areas with a powerful enough round matters most. - The .22LR kills more people than all calibers combined BUT it kills slowly giving the person shot time to kill you. - All handgun bullets are weak (not good stopper/killers as most folks shot by handguns survive) and so pistol calibers are really a compromise in self-defense. - If in a non-CCW self-defense situation ALWAYS use a long gun like a shotgun with 00 shells or a rifle with rifle caliber bullets. Note: Gun sellers & the gun industry like any gun as long as it sells. So always take their advice as suspect.
Wife's disabled...uses Ruger LCR 8rd 22LR revolver with Crimson Trace...excellent shot...uses Stingers...enter our home at your peril. :-) She cannot rack a slide or handle a heavy gun. The LCR is great for her. great video. to each his own.
The only 22 pistol I have is the M&P 22 Compact and I can honestly that shooting premium ammo like CCI and Aguila ammo I have had no failures. That said, I usually practice with a centerfire revolver, 9mm or 40 S&W or 45 acp. I also carry a 380 acp. One other item that should be discussed is pistol size and weight. A subcompact 380 can have more felt recoil than a full size 9mm. This is something people need to keep in mind when recommending firearms for new shooters.
Well thought out discussion. I love the .22 lr but I agree that it has its pros and cons. I typically never recommend someone start out with .22 lr for defense but if that is all they are capable of operating I don't discount it either.
One more PRO for .22. In a defense situation you don't have to time to equip your hearing protection. Shooting 9 mm or .45 in a small room can limit significantly your ability to hear.
Pros - MY EDC is a Ruger MKll 4" chopped down bull barrel, at self defense distance of 10 feet or closer it does not recoil off target, 2 shots in the gut, 1 in the forehead in 1 second. Repeat if necessary. Cons - Pistol is a little heavy. I am a 70 y/o and no longer can handle 45acp, 357 etc.....
I'm in the same boat as you. My wife doesn't like the sound of recoil of larger calibers. But she really enjoys shooting her .22. she will carry it because she is comfortable with it. No matter the size of the wepon, it does you no good if you don't carry it. To me, if that is all she will carry then that is what I will have to live with.
What a lot don’t consider is that a large amount of encounters will be one-hand draw and one-hand shot. Unless a range is setup to allow that DRAW, as you mentioned here, one never can evaluate his true ability in a quick defensive encounter and leads to WHY so many will NOT EDC or get involved in another’s defensive problem as what occurred at a WalMart parking lot. When considering a one-hand presentation it will have to be a one-shot encounter for most. Why a .22LR is a very EDCable weapon of choice.
22 LR very LETHAL, ACCURATE and CONFIDENCE INSPIRING for USABILITY, SHOT PLACEMENT, FOLLOW UP SHOTS, EASE OF CARRY and CONCEALMENT. THE 22LR IS AN EXCELLENT SELF DEFENSE and SELF OFFENSE tool. ALL around great round for putting holes in things. It's shooting made easy 101
That was a really well thought out and executed video. Great work. I'm in the same thoughts on getting a home defence gun for my wife. Thank you for doing this video@
To any anti-gunners or nervous folks (and I was both once upon a time) or anyone making fun of 22lr as a whimp's caliber, 22lr is perfectly fine if that's the max you're willing to go with for now even if forever. Ignore what others say. Just do your best. Take the responsibility. Protect yourself (and those you care about.) We are ALL 2A-ers. My preferred CCWs ... admittedly 9mm and 380 ACP but only after a year with a 22lr.
I trust the .22lr for self defense. It's actually my gun of choice over my 9mm and .38... I have quite afew handguns and can shoot them all well. But the .22lr is my favorite to shoot. Its small, has no recoil and the handgun that i have is very accurate... The size of the .22 makes alot of people not want to carry it, As if it isn't a large enough caliber. It's plenty large enough to do damage and kill.. Larger caliber ammo is more expensive also, and unless you have a good income not many people can afford to shoot 100-200 rounds while target shooting. Its hard to get good with a gun that you hardly ever shoot because of the price of ammo. .22lr you can shoot all day and teach yourself to be accurate with it... I've also heard people talk about .22lr ammo not going off all of the time, but i've actually had more of my higher caliber ammo not go off than i have with the .22lr ammo. For the average person, the .22lr is all that a person needs for self defense. That is unless you are planning on going full Rambo and bad guys jumping from roof tops every time that you try to go to Mcdonalds to get something to eat... Which is very unlikely. And on a side note, If someone is living in a place that has so much crime that you have to carry twin .44mags, then you probably need to move, Like yesterday.
I agree that the .22LR does have some disadvantages of that size caliber and being a rimfire cartridge. However, with good quality ammunition, practice and shot placement, it's a very lethal choice.
Great video. 22 LR is less recoil . The thing is hitting your target and shot placement . If you can not do that with a 9 mm, 40,45, and can do it with a 22 LR that would be the best choice.
The average combat distance is only a few yards. I dont see why somone who cant hit at that short range with a 9mm should do with 22. Shot placement is important but that rather an argument FOR a bigger caliber/woundchannel!
It's like in an article that I read recently, is that in most instances drawing and aiming your weapon will stop someone but the one sentence that stuck out is that "shooting someone no matter the caliber will generally stop an attack, simply because people don't want to get shot with any caliber pistol" unless you run into the rare superhuman you won't be in too much trouble, these guys did a study is 22 long rifle roundsself-defense situation along with other calibers as well like 45 ACP 40 Smith & Wesson 380 9 m m and they found that over 70% defensive situations they analyzed 22 long rifle was what was used because most people in America own at least one 22 caliber weapon but it'll be a rifle or a pistolwasn't what they were analyzing they were analyzing whether it was used in a defensive situation and their findings was basically 22 would be a viable option based on the data alone...I don't use my 22 pistol very often when I'm target shooting but I have a Marlin model 60 one of the original series ones that has a 17 shot tube and a 22-inch barrel and I can stack my bullets at 50 yardsI would not hesitate to grab that rifle if the need to defend myself arose, although I carry a 1911 45 ACP as a carry gun everyday I usually do have my 22 and a shotgun in the truck all of which I can stay comfortable and on target shooting... So anyone considering the 22 for self-defense I would say go for it if you can maintain accuracy and control on your target which most people can but other thing is shoot what you're comfortable with they make several carry weapons in the 22 caliber and my girlfriend can actually stay on target and stack 8 rounds in a Target the size of an eye socket within 5 yards
One of my go-to HD weapons is a 10/22 with a 110-round GSG drum mag filled with Aguila Interceptor HP's. These fly out of the rifle's 18.5" barrel at 1470 fps with a muzzle energy of 192 or basically the same as CCI Stingers but with a bigger bullet (40 gr. vs 32 gr.) and normal-length casing. The wound channels they produce in ballistic gel are pretty darn impressive. Since it only takes one well-placed head shot to kill someone, with 110 rounds on tap, there's a pretty good chance that it's going to turn a perp's head into Swiss cheese.
The police use flash/bang grenades to disorientate people. The same effect occurs when firing a large caliber in an enclosed area. Multiple accurate shots will be very difficult. This is not a problem with 22lr. Shot placement is key and easy to do with 22lr. Over penetration is also a serious concern. I have an 8 shot Ruger LCRevolver that is reliable with any 22 ammo.
In this age of polymer everything, recoil-shy people who have a slight frame are constantly making the mistake of wanting a light weight gun. Heavier guns recoil less, no matter the caliber. I’m a proponent of .22lr for defense. But the ammunition and gun has to be rightand cleaned as often as it’s shot. My Browning Buckmark has went through around 3k rounds and it’s had two failures to feed. Both were Remington bulk box ammo. Never failed using CCI.
If you have an opportunity to ever go to a tactical gun range definitely do it ! The most fun shooting and kind of simulates a real life scenario and using multiple types of guns for each particular shooting station !!! Used mostly my 10/22 rifle ,22/45 pistol ,ak-47 ,ar-15 and my MODIFIED tactical 12 GAUGE mossberg shotgun
Comment 1000! As an aside, I do conceal carry a Ruger LCP II .22LR loaded with CCI Velocitors as a BUG when in public. It is my EDC in an ankle holster while inside my home.
You've seen nothing wrong with a .22, b/c you've only been Larping with your guns, like the rest of us. You've never shot at anyone with a .22 pistol and neither has anyone else in all of these comments.
I carry a Beretta 21A/22lr ...... it's better then nothing......One thing I really like about it, You can carry it around all day....If you know what I mean.
I'm a bigger fan of the 36g HP Mini-Mag, than the Velocitor. I've seen it expand consistently, to .40", from a handgun. The Velocitor will give you more penetration, but at the cost of expansion. They aren't designed to expand as much as the Mini-Mag. Even from a rifle. And with a handgun, sometimes no expansion. Just my opinion... Great video, and great topic.
This is a good reality based discussion. If you are a trained shooter adapt at gunfighting who shoots on the regular a 22lr is more than capable. I carry my Ruger SR22 on dog walks every night. It is very reliable and I am a surgeon with it.
.22lr is going fastenough using a small enough caliber that it has the ability to slip in there and penetrate. If you can get that small bullet where it needs to go, then it would probably be pretty effective.
While it's not Ideal for self defense, my wife carries a 22. She carries the Purple Ruger SR22. She has shot the crap out of that gun. She will head out to the range and burn through a 500 round pack. She can throw a target up a the back of the range and throw all 10 round in a circle the size of a 50 cent piece as fast as she can pull the trigger. Hers has second strike to help with the occasional primer that wont go off. We have some 22 snap caps and I will load the magazines for her and once in a while throw a snap cap in at random. That way she can practice a second strike and tap and rack to put it back into service. I know that she would be far more effective with that weapon than I will be with my 5 shot 38 snubby.
I fully agree, always put up a fight, if you play along and appear to be a victim you will become one. I have to add, I carry what I can afford, but I take extra time and effort to practice, because of that.
In total agreement with you in that placement is what's more important than the power of the calibre, and mindset is the number one factor when shooting. I figure that a .22 is better than nothing at all, and better than fists, club or a knife. I've got a revolver in .22 that has a magnum cylinder along with the lower capacity cartridges. Then there's my 1911-22 auto along with my .38 snubby that I carry most times. There's also a few other items in lock-up that could cause the average Joe to stop and rethink their attack. Either way, I love the magnum affect over the .38, but wish it was a DA instead of the SA style revolver.
I’ve been a Paramedic for 30 yrs. 6 of them in the Detroit area. I’m telling you 22LR gets it done. Anyone that would say otherwise needs to do my job for a while.
Great video. I'm 62, big guy, but have developed terrible autheritis in my wrists. I can still shoot my 9 mm, 357 and 38 but after 10 rounds my wrists start hurting and swelling, even with wrist strap glove. I've moved to 22lr so I can practice with 50-100 rounds twice a week with no pain. Better to hit with 22 than miss with 9mm.
Personally, I am SO much more accurate and faster with a .22LR snubby than any centerfire handgun. And add in all the other rimfire benefits and it's a no brainer that I'm better served and protected by my laser guided Ruger LCR22.
@@rfdsrd I hold my heart to my CZ75 SP01. I can tack drive with that sweetheart.
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@@NJLevyou’re right on that!
Amen brother. I’m 82 and gave up on 9mm and .45acp. I especially like your hit and miss comment.
I'm lightweight (118lbs) and I'd rather be able to land 10/10 shots with a .22lr than fail to hit targets with a larger caliber due to recoil.
Practice being key, 22lr has every caliber out there beat. 500 rounds of 22 is less than 25 dollars. 500 rounds of 9mm is 120 dollars.
But to be honest 9mm from a glock 17 barely recoils at all.
What if there are more than 1 perp and they are armed???
Keith Larsen and 500 rounds for 22 lr is like 25 bucks xD
Keith Larsen but yeah my Sig p320 has like no recoil
You can kill a hog with .22 LR. If it is good for hogs, it is good for humans.
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Odysseus Mavrigata Haha, that's when a farmer walks up to his hog who's just chilling and shoots it in the head with usually, a .22LR RIFLE. Are you an assassin or something? A self defense shooting is not this; nor can you conceal carry a .22LR RIFLE.
@ Nothing wrong with killing to eat
@ You're talking about hogs, right?
@@1truefreedomfighter LOL right. Actually you put a sharp thin butcher knife in their throat pointing down towards the heart, then you flick it around to slit the aorta. When the blood starts flowing well, you know you've got it.
CCI have a photo on their instagram of a small alligator killed with their .22 mini mag rounds.
I spent the better part of a 35 year career as a firefighter/EMT on an ambulance and I can testify to the fact that a 22 IS viable. In my experience the overwhelming majority of firearm related deaths were 22 caliber.
Good advice.
A 22lr may not be best, but they're still lethal. That's not open to debate.
I've always said that a .22 round is most deadly because it bounces around in the body.
@@randyl6699 no
@@randyl6699 can it be deflected by bone? Yes. Does it bounce around like a ping pong ball? No. Thats the dumbest misconception about this round.
@@chriss9187 🤣😂😅 guess you're just misinformed. It's all good bro. Just because you don't know doesn't mean you gotta be an idiot 🤣😂😂
@@chriss9187 if u can find something that simulates a human body n shot a 22 round into it, then you'll see what it actually does. Then we'll talk. ✌️👍
I knew a guy who was shot with a .22LR while he was working on his house. He felt something he thought was a bad wasp sting in the middle of his back. He tried climbing down the ladder but passed out as he got to the bottom. Recovering, he managed to reach a phone and call for help. Then he passed out again and woke up in a hospital. The doctor told him he'd been shot by a .22LR and that he'd come "this close" to dying. The police found the spot where two boys had stopped briefly to shoot a .22LR pistol. They did a chart from where the gun had been fired and it was (are you ready?) just over a mile away! They hadn't tried to hit him as they couldn't have even seen him from that distance. The police found the shell casings, but never located the boys, and I'm glad they didn't. These lousy states outlaw anywhere a person can shoot, so if someone wants to fire their gun --- say, to test fire it --- they can't. So I'm very sympathetic to those who shoot stop signs and shoot in places they shouldn't.
The point of the story is that a round (a CCI Mini-Mag), probably fired from a Ruger Mark-series pistol, can almost kill a person from a frickin' mile away! People who underestimate the power of a .22LR, go right ahead and underestimate! With 9-10 shots from a Ruger Mark -series pistol, I think I can put down King Kong on steroids. Yeah, I've heard the stories about people taking hits with multiple .38 Spc rounds and living to wreak havoc on others, but .38 rounds go in and go out. A .22LR tends to stay in the body. And when they hit one after another, wham! wham! wham!, I don't think many people can take it, especially when there's one or two to the head. I'll take a .22LR any day for self defense.
plot twist; you are one of those boys arent you?!
22 lr will do the job 8 holes on a human body will bleed to the death in seconds
Something that gets ignored for the most part is collateral damage. Once that round leaves the barrel, the shooter is often liable for any and all damage it causes, whether it's a legitimate self-defense scenario or not. This is a strong pro for the .22. Missed shots will do less damage, strikes will not likely exit, and as said here, weapon size and round expense will also likely encourage proficiency. Additionally, a high quality .22 pistol can be had for not much more than most "entry level" 9mm pistols.
I really like this well thought out video. I have shot a long time. I am well into being a senior citizen. I need glasses. I really can no longer fire one-handed with .44 mag, and not well even with a .40 or 9mm. So I think of home self defense. I am awakened and I am in bed, I grab my firearm. I am not wearing glasses or hearing protection (nor is my wife). I am flat on my back using one hand to shoot, the other to hold myself in a sitting position. I do keep two handguns -- a .40 Glock like you carry (and I carry), and a Ruger Mark III Hunter (target pistol essentially with thread barrel) -- suppressed. At "in-house distances" (mean 5-10 yards where almost all self-defense gun fight occur) I can place in the X ring with one had easily (laser does not hurt, zeroed at 7 yards). If I fire the .40 in my bedroom my wife and I will suffer permanent hearing damage up to, and including, deafness. Just tactically if you take out one bad guy but can no longer hear ... what about other bad guys in the house? If I get the job done with the .22 great. I use non-hollow point high velocity rounds that will penetrate 13" in gel as a rule (CCI mini-mags are good as are Eley Target Ammo -- both will go through a 6-pack lined up at 10 yards easily -- make it cheap soda :-) ). Two to the gut, two to the chest, two to the face, fight over. And easy to do -- shot placement even with one hand is excellent. But this is -- as you you said -- based on me and my abilities. 40 years ago I would have done the same ... with a .357 magnum and been to dumb to know I'd be deaf the rest of my life. Yes -- if the house if flooded with bad guys and I get my glasses on and get standing I'll probably switch to the .40 which two hand I do shoot pretty well. So it is not a one or the other -- I have both options. I'd like to get it done and still hear, and I think I can do that better with the .22 -- you also pointed out that shooting 500 rounds of .357 and you'll be hurting. So true now. I won't shoot more than 6 rounds of .44 mag or 1-2 magazines of 10mm -- I'm hurting by then. I will shoot 50 rounds a week (in one sitting) with the .40 ... and 2-400 .22 rounds a week in the same sitting. And the .40 is what beats me up. But that is what I usually carry. Occasionally I carry a Beretta .22 mouse gun -- when it is 115 degrees out and I am in a venue of shorts and t-shirts. Or when wearing a tux at a wedding. Or other times when you need something that small to be able to carry. Not ideal. So this video is exactly right -- skill level, age, ability, eye sight, situation, practice (includes cost AND beating up) -- all factor in. There is no such thing as knock down power when you miss the target. The reason for two to the gut first -- they will penetrate and cause bleeding and pain. Perhaps not so much in the chest. And the head -- better be from upper lip to top of eyes. So those gut shots may not be ideal -- but they will start the process of stopping the opponent pretty well I suspect.
Good thread thank you
I shoot 50 rounds of 22lr for every round of 45 or 9mm I shoot . Practice makes perfect.
Finally someone who is speaking with there head and sense !!!!! Thank you
Thanks for this, I purchased a Ruger SR22 a year ago after a stolen car was abandoned in front of my home. I have a bad shoulder and was worried I wouldn't be able to safely manage a larger caliber. I have been taking training classes & going to the range at least 3 times a month. I fell in love with the SR22's accuracy even at longer distances. After trying different 22LR ammo, I've come to think there is no better 22LR than CCI mini mag. True the HP won't open unless it hits a solid, but the CCI mini mag FMJ does a nice tumble in jell. There are video ballistic tests for the mini mag HP, FMJ, Valositor & stinger.
Good choice on the mini mags. Hard to beat.
Hi, just happened on your video.
I have been concealed carrying for about 45 years.
The first 15 or 16 I only carried a snub nosed Charter arms pathfinder
chambered in 22. With the chance of a bad primer I could just pull the trigger again
If needed. I would never feel under armed with a 22 revolver.
I really enjoyed your video and will look for more of them.
Please keep at it. You give a common sense approach to concealed carrying.
Thank you for posting, kenny
Shot placement is key. 22lr mouse gun in your pocket, two shots in the head/face or two shots in the heart and its goodnight. No recoil, small, light but very effective.
Good rundown on the basic pros and cons of a carry gun decision. This focuses on carrying a 22 for defense and doesn't mention the home defense aspect with a 22 rifle/carbine. The longer barrel length of a rifle improves the performance of a 22 enough IMO, to push it into a very credible category for home defense. As part of a home defense system that may include other firearms, even more so. Real life occurrences prove that good, bad or indifferent, 22 LR rifles are used successfully to defend lives.
I agree. 22lr in the rifle platform makes it a much more effective defensive round. My Marlin 795 with loaded with mini mags is lightweight, maneuverable, and deadly accurate
Bob C and won't blow out your eardrums if used indoors defensively. 👍
@@flyboytim2009 Nor shoot through the neighbors' house if it penertrates the badguy or in a miss.
I liked the video but I wanted to make sure I highlight one small thing that is obvious to 90% of us if not more, but to some others may not be.... You cannot just pull your gun any time you want or in every situation, you will be charged if you do. Make sure you read and know your state laws. Thanks
For home a 22lr out of a Ruger 10/22 is devastating.
And now you can get a binary trigger for the 10/22... dump 10-15 rounds into the attackers body within 2 seconds
Several nice semi-auto rifles out too. Hammerli TAC R1, S&W 15-22, Colt M4-22, H&K416-22. All have ~25 rd mags(unless in CA 10rd limit) and are quite effective.
Really appreciate you taking the time to bring forth this video, many great points. I am a veteran and CCW permit holder. My firearm of choice is an M&P Shield in 9mm with specialized ammo. My wife being rather petite still has some reservations with 9mm, .38 spcl. and .357 mag. She loves shooting the custom Ruger 10/22 I put together for her. A quality, highly accurate .22 LR or .22 Mag. may be a great option for her. Thanks again!
Warning shots should only be aimed at the heart or face....for humans!
I carry 9mm daily.... however, I've got a Ruger 10/22 with 25 rounds ready to go for home defense...loaded with 40 grain mini-mags for penetration and reliability
Shot placement and not going blind and deaf are more important to me, in the home, than Ft. lbs. of energy.
Excellent idea. The 22LR is not a .357 Magnum but a 22LR is better than nothing.
@@southeirut4773 yes he is.
If you give him 6-8 quick ones in his chest, it would be similar to him taking a 00 buckshot round
My go-to home defense weapon for a few years was a Ruger 10/22
Ruger 10/22 Silent SR ISB with 2000 rounds of CCI standard for me in my GTFOOD backpack. Along with basic camping supplies, a week's worth of dehydrated food, water purification tabs, a lifestraw, a decent first aid kit & couple of Israelis. 60 pounds. But walk into the mountains in 10 minutes at any time ready.
Excellent Video I get a kick out of some of these people who think you got to have these tactical weapons with very expensive rounds and do combat training for self defense just use your head and practice reasonably with any caliber and number one rule be aware of your surroundings and don’t put yourself in a situation you can’t get out of
So why don't Cops carry .22? I get a kick out of you.
Folks get killed every day by some yahoo who never fired a gun before in their life...we go to the range weekly, but some yahoo letting off a round of whatever in his backyard can put my lights out that quick...and even the most modern tacticool body armor wearing .44 magnums on both hips types are not immune to the far away stray bullet falling out of the sky...
I live in what I would call a safe suburban neighborhood but I've had to pull a gun twice to end to a situation that could've gone 2 ways. In both cases I had center fires and I put a laser sight on someone's chest. Without ever firing a shot the threat was immediately gone, and by "immediately" I mean they were hauling ass..
I have a 12 year old daughter that has recently started staying at home by herself and as an over protective dad It makes me very nervous. With that being said I decided it was time for her to learn to handle a firearm.
I have a fairly extensive gun collection but the 22lr was a simple choice for her age and size. I don't care how big and bad you are, even a 22lr with proper placement will bring you to your knees, if it doesn't kill you then someone will be wiping the drool off chin for the rest of your life. After taking her out shooting I added a laser sight and have it dialed in at 20yards. If anything ever happens hopefully the laser will end the situation and deter the criminal, but if not she knows what she has to do.... put the laser dot right in the middle of their face and pull the trigger... I will not allow my self to be one of those parents wishing I would've done something different and I refuse to sugar coat it.
I truly appreciate your video.
I pray to god my daughter never has to use a firearm for protection but you never know what problems may come up...as she gets older the caliber will continue to go up. I'm glad I finally posted my statement because have to know my child has some sort of advantage just incase some mother fucker would ever decide that my door was the one they're gonna kick in and I'm not there to protect her... My house has security cameras but a camera won't stop anybody.
Flash Hammerstein same here my daughter is 10 and I've been showing her how to properly handle a fire arm for self defense and for recreational use only
Flash Hammerstein good man
Flash Hammerstein 22 is a great round I love my 1022
Nice!
Some people might not be so quick to permanently take someone else away from there family. Threats are almost always enough(If it wasn't the macho usually die first). If we lived in your world it would be terrible. There's always someone willing to spout that macho b.s. thankfully most of us recognize it as such.
Your video & plus audio were excellent. Thanks for the use of an external microphone. The content was great too. Good advice! As you know more & more manufacturers are seeing it your way (both guns & 22LR). But, like most everything now days, there is lots of misinformation. As a Vietnam vet., let me inform everybody, that there are many died VC due to close in head & body shots. In North Vietnam, our men serving in North Vietnam used 22LR ammo to solve issues using guns with sound suppressors behind the lines. I one reported it due to the rules of engagement.
You ladies watching this video and being told lies about the 22LR guns watch Annie Oakley on RUclips to get the real story!
This is by far the best 22lr. for defense video I have ever saw. One thing that a lot of people never consider is the people like me who start to flinch and thus pull the shot, not at the thought of recoil, but at the anticipation of muzzle blast. I have a .204 Ruger I can't fire it more than five times or so before I start flinching. That's OK because it's a hunting round and I wouldn't be making that many shots with it and thanks to a lot of training with a .22 rifle I am a decent shot. But I can't go threw a cylinder of my .38 special revolver before I start flinching bad. Now, maybe if I could put thousands of rounds down range that would go away, but I am disabled and can't afford that.
I carry a 22lr as a dayly. My wife carries the same. We are both ccw card holders. We carry the same weapon for continuity of use. If she or I go dry we can share. A 22lr is a lethal as a .50 desert eagle. Shot placement is critical. You can't miss fast enough to save your life. Train with bulk and use pistol ammo for defence. It is deffenetly better than a stick or a rock. I carry my k-bar for the sticks and a 22lr for the rest. If you can't go armed don't go. Gun free zones only work when everyone ( including the bad guys ) don't carry. If some one stays I can't take it I don't need to be there. If you think I am not armed 24/7 365. You need to think again. Train. Place a empty case somewhere in the mag. Shoot and practice tap rack shoot. Use spent cases to simulate malfunctions and jams. Training, and shot placement are key. Some will say " what if it's a fat guy? It won't penetrate." Well he won't chase far ither. If he has a gun then put them in a good location. Knee hip hands head. Be accurate. Body armor is the same issue and is easy to get. But seariously. Don't be a willing victome. Shoot back. A 22short will kill as fast as a 308 hunting rifle. Just not as far away. Please just arm yourself. The life you save may be your own.
I absolutely love the logic and sound advice of this video.
he made me feel safe but broke and lazy
The .22 in your pocket is better than the .45 you left at home.
I've been shooting handguns for 40 years now. I grew up with guns as the norm.ive owned a little of everything at one time or another. Right now I have a couple of 9mm pistols and at least one ..45.
my .22 pistols are shot many times more than any other guns I have.i can't afford to buy and shoot 500 rounds a week of center fire ammo, I can and do average 500 rounds every week and more with my current favorite .22. a Taurus TX22 with 17 rd capacity.
Long story shorter, I can consistently put rounds on a target, rapid fire at 15 to 20 yards. My edc is a 9 mm and I shoot it well, But nowhere near like the .22. For that reason, I carry the .22 as backup and i don't feel undergunned if I choose to carry just the .22.
Good info! thanks for the video.
MJC
Fact: no matter how good you shoot you will always shoot better with the gun with less recoil
I've been shooting firearms since about 1968 or 69. As a kid I shot a lot of 22LR rounds. Possibly around 1,500 to 1,700. And I did have some 22LR's that misfired, I can remember about 5 or 6 rounds that didn't go bang.
Then as an adult I bought a Ruger Single-Six to practice and get good at shooting a gun. So I got 6 boxes of 550 rounds and threw them all down range. Cleaned the gun about every 200 or so rounds. It took me about two weeks to get them all fired up. And truthfully I had only one misfire out of all these rounds.
Its true that 22LR rounds misfire, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that 22LR is so unreliable a round that it can't be used for self defense. A clean gun or rifle in 22LR could be used for self defense in my opinion. Be prepared to fire more than one round in a tense situation though.
My LCR22 holds 8 rounds of Federal Punch and I will have NO PROBLEM getting at least 4 of those rounds into a moving perp's head at 15 yards. I don't do public/commercial range practice - that makes no sense as most of these ranges have restrictions as to how and where any handgun can be fired. I have my own personal range and do 15 yard live fire drills into life size targets under stressful and trying conditions, with double hold strong hand and single hold strong and support hands.
A 22lr in the eye or crotch will deter most threats. He's right. "stop a threat" does not necessarily mean "kill a threat".
Home defense should begin with an alarm system. No one should show up at your bedroom door unannounced. There are many inexpensive systems that sound alarms whenever a door or window is breached. Most times this alone will scare off an intruder, and give you time to set up a defensive posture.
A dog is our alarm...
Complete and objective, one the most useful videos on the subject. Well done, thank you!!
.22LR is a valid defense round to a trained shooter (who shoots well, on target). I used to put 500 rounds down range per week of 45ACP back in the eighties (a competitive practical pistol shot). The thought of firing a .45ACP in my house fills me with dread and will kill my ears - also a musician. What I’m trying to say is that I would use the lowest powered round possible. P.
Excellent video!! There are pros and cons but it's certainly better to carry a 22 than nothing.
GunCollector007 I totally agree! The .22LR has fed many of people over hundreds of years and can and will stop a threat! Nothing to glory about, but History has proven its the most used cartridges used for homicide and assassination purposes!!!!
I feel the same way
I carry a 22. Light weight and easy to handle.🇺🇸
I have VERY CREDIBLE RESOURCES...... I’ll LEAVE IT THERE!!
Spinning Back-Kick Opinions are like assholes.... We all have one! Hey, whatever blows your hair back...... What’s the debate for anyway? Enjoy......
Good video. I saw first hand the results a single 22LR to the human head many years ago. The shot entered the forehead dead centre just above the eyebrows. This is a quite thick part of the skull. The bullet traversed the brain and came to rest at the back of the skull in the ocipital region (as viewed on the CAT scan). It did not exit the skull. Needless to say the individual did not recover. With good shot placement it works.
I read a study of gunshot victims that concluded that multiple bullet wounds is statistically more dangerous then a single bullet wound of any caliber... So multiple 22 hits is better than a single hit of a larger round
Great advice to practice and to effectively put rounds on target in multiple situations, regardless of caliber. If you miss the target, it doesn't matter what caliber firearm you use.
Excellent video and a very good point made that the mainstream gun culture constantly debates about. And that is we carry to stop the threat. The goal is to stop the attacker, not kill. I'm a big proponent of using small caliber pistols for self defense. Are they lethal? yes. 22lr, 25acp, 32acp, 380acp can all kill.
Today, about 45% of American don’t have $400 cash on hand or in the bank to use immediately! Plus now the ammunitions are very expensive. So you are right, Cost does matter!
Bought my wife a taurus pt-22. She's a beginner. Its comfy has a very easy to operate safety it's easy to conceal and it's deadlier than a knife. A 22lr with do more damage than an ice pick and she carries 8+1 ready to stab. She calls it her noisy cricket.
I saw a man shot with one shot from a little 25 and it killed him dead as a hammer. Shot placement is key.
You can practice with a .22lr and carry another option. Most of that training carries through to other calibers. I personally use a .22lr for an everyday carry, even though I have other options. It's light, small, and I don't care if I bang it up etc. I like the feel of my 9mm or my 40, but I carry the .22lr.
Favorite quote “it’s not just what’s in the gun that needs to be prepared for a self defense scenario.”
for self defense, their are 3 factors for me. first, you must have a gun. secondly, you must hit the target. thirdly, reliable gun.
Ive several firearms one of which is a 22lr walther p22. Always liked how fast i could draw it and place 10 rounds down range more accurately then my beretta bu9 nano in 9mm. I like how i can buy a box of 500 cheap Remington high velocity ammo for 30 bucks compared to buying a hundred rounds 9mm for 20 in brass casing. I am a good shot, ive practiced with rifles, pistols, ar’s, shotguns, bows, and crossbows. I like to decertify myself from any one platform or caliber. Ive been in multiple debates over this same subject but always and still do think if u have it, can shoot it, and it works for u; then carry it by all means. Great video guy. Good educational and diverse discussion over the whole caliber superiority topic that honestly is to over done. In my personal and professional opinion, any round is effective depending on shot placement and like u said the shooters mindset.
how come i cant hit 6-20 ft on sights but 50-80 yards i can hit bottles cans and wood without the sights yelling yeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw, was i reincarnated or astigmatism
Someone once asked, what is the best camera to carry for taking photographs? The answer is the same as the answer for guns for self-defense. The best gun for self-defense is the gun you have immediate access to. Better a 22LR in hand, than a 9mm locked away in a safe or in the trunk of your car. You don't pass up the shot or not defend yourself simply because you simply don't have the right gun with you.
There very first time I heard of what we would now call a mass shooting at a school was a woman named Brenda Spencer. She used a Ruger 10/22 with a scope. She killed 2 and wounded 8 or 9 others. I know an army vet that uses the same gun as their bedside weapons when things go bump in the night. Use whatever you can shoot accurately.
As a CPL Instructor I thought you made some excellent points. Great video!
One good thing about the .22 is the ease of follow up shots.
Best 22lr self defence video I've ever seen
Great point at 7:50 because there’s Some people who buy a gun and literally never use it they just stick it in the safe or drawer and never practice
i agree and i disagree about the 22LR, in an autoloader pistol or rifle i believe its(22) ok, in a bolt or lever not so much, in a pump rifle doable with practice, in a revolver depends on how easy and smoothly the double action pulls (6 to 10 misses don't count). but all bets are off if they are shooting at you with anything so then it becomes what you are most comfortable and proficient with. a centerfire pistol is harder to control if your upset and rattled. in close quarters a "cold steel gurka kukuri" will do an unbelievable amount of damage compared to a 44 mag 45acp or 357 mag. one swipe can take off an arm or even a head, a real hard strong swing will take off a leg or cut them in two, sorry this is off subject. but a 22 is better than nothing, no one wants to get shot.... even with a 22
I keep the 22lr by the bed.
1: ammo cost to practice? 22lr by far cheapest. 2: reliability? CCI Minimag or Stingers. 3: compact
People always down the 22lr as a HD round. the thing is...practice, if you own a firearm you should practice with it until it becomes an extension of your body anyway. Shot placement is key..therefore practice, thats how you get good at shot placement. There is nothing wrong with 22lr as a defensive round if you have dedicated the time and effort to practice. i have other firearms (556, 12ga, 9mm) but i prefer the 22lr. Through much practice/range time i have become very efficeint/proficeint with all of my firearms, but when it comes down to it the first one ill pick up in a HD situation is one of my 22lrs.
Extremely new to the world of carrying so thank you for breaking down everything for a noob like myself. Well done
I've been in a self defense situation in the past. I feel very comfortable and land my shots well with my SW 22 Victory. If It was the only thing I had I would use it because I'm confident enough in my ability to use it. I fired over like 4k rounds of CCI and Federal into that thing. Moving shots are things you need to definitely practice. I do only use good ammo like the ones you've shown us here, but I personally have not experienced any serious jamming issues yet. Most of my issues stem from mag problems. I clean my guns every time after I shoot them. There again, I only have 2 .22 guns so I'm not all that experienced with the issues you've mentioned.
As someone who loves the physics behind how something works, and just an overall gunnut.
I think you covered pretty much everything. It was a great informational video, and very professionally approached.
Edited part.. I use a Taurus g2c as my edc, but my home defense rigs are 2 cheaper 22lr rifles that I've ran 4500, and 2000 rounds thru with minimal failures.
The rossi rs22 (2000 rounds) just runs smoothly.. No new parts yet. The other being the savage model 64 (4500 rounds). About 8 500 round bulk packs of ammunition later needed a new magazine. After the new mag another 500 brick no proplem.......
For those who want to look into cheaper options.
I keep a 10/22 by my bedside. The only thing I can afford and they’re easy maintenance
Anybody that would ever belittle your use of that 10/22 is ignorant. It's a great option even if it was not all you have!
I got a 25 round 22lr rifle. I can unload the clip so quickly and due to the little recoil my accuracy is superb and I’m no way an experienced shooter. I don’t understand the hate of a 22lr. Idc how big you are, if you’re coming at me and I’m aiming my rifle at you, you’re going down. Sure, maybe when compared to 1 9mm round vs 1 22lr then the stopping power matters. But, I’m pretty sure 5 well placed shots that come out in an instant will do the job plenty fine.
I just purchased one
Maritza Nieves welcome to the club. One thing is, the aftermarket for the 10/22 is HUGE. So if you want to doll her up, you can find everything.
@@uchihajoel3064 A shotgun with one time trigger push give instant 150 bullets (pellets) and the new semi auto shotguns have magazines, for me is the best home defense weapon
Love the Fender shirt. I'm on Team Fender myself. It's a better choice than none at all. In fact, it may not be a bad choice especially for someone brand new, very young, very old or infirm. Light recoil and minimal muzzle rise are huge advantages.
Very good presentation! You are very knowledgeable on this subject. Keep up the good work and stay the course! Sincerely
Shot placement no matter what the caliber is a deciding factor.
I see the logic in using the .22LR for self-defense (a mouse gun) BUT you must make your 1st three
or four shots count as in hitting the head and/or the "deadly triangle" (head to the nipples).
The reasons most professionals & people who actually get into gun fights say NOT TO USE a .22LR are:
- In real-life self-defense incidents the 1st two to three shots are the most effective.
All other shots are not useful due to the dynamic nature of gun fights.
- the power of your handgun is in *shot placement* so whatever caliber you use doesn't really matter.
Hitting vital areas with a powerful enough round matters most.
- The .22LR kills more people than all calibers combined BUT it kills slowly giving the person shot time to kill you.
- All handgun bullets are weak (not good stopper/killers as most folks shot by handguns survive) and
so pistol calibers are really a compromise in self-defense.
- If in a non-CCW self-defense situation ALWAYS use a long gun like a shotgun with 00 shells or a rifle with rifle caliber bullets.
Note: Gun sellers & the gun industry like any gun as long as it sells.
So always take their advice as suspect.
Bullet placement is everything
Just bought some mini-mags , 13 cents a round. Feeling blessed I can go to Academy and ammo on the shelf
Wife's disabled...uses Ruger LCR 8rd 22LR revolver with Crimson Trace...excellent shot...uses Stingers...enter our home at your peril. :-) She cannot rack a slide or handle a heavy gun. The LCR is great for her. great video. to each his own.
The only 22 pistol I have is the M&P 22 Compact and I can honestly that shooting premium ammo like CCI and Aguila ammo I have had no failures. That said, I usually practice with a centerfire revolver, 9mm or 40 S&W or 45 acp. I also carry a 380 acp. One other item that should be discussed is pistol size and weight. A subcompact 380 can have more felt recoil than a full size 9mm. This is something people need to keep in mind when recommending firearms for new shooters.
Shout out loudly! Outstanding presentation of bread-n-butter info! I needed to hear all you spoke of. Thank You!
You don’t need training as long as you have VATS and land crit shots
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Or just sneak up behind them and take this here subsonic .22 and put their lights out. The silenced .22 does have a great critical multiplier.
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Well thought out discussion. I love the .22 lr but I agree that it has its pros and cons. I typically never recommend someone start out with .22 lr for defense but if that is all they are capable of operating I don't discount it either.
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I really liked your video, you had a very unbiased opinion. Thanks!
You can mess someone up with the Smith Wesson M&P 15-22!
theoriginalmungaman amen
10 shots in 5 seconds
Love the 25 round mags!
Love my 15-22
Just bought a Smith and wesson 15 22 i believe i could get an home intruder to get back with 25 rounds for sure
One more PRO for .22. In a defense situation you don't have to time to equip your hearing protection. Shooting 9 mm or .45 in a small room can limit significantly your ability to hear.
Pros - MY EDC is a Ruger MKll 4" chopped down bull barrel, at self defense distance of 10 feet or closer it does not recoil off target, 2 shots in the gut, 1 in the forehead in 1 second. Repeat if necessary. Cons - Pistol is a little heavy. I am a 70 y/o and no longer can handle 45acp, 357 etc.....
I'm in the same boat as you. My wife doesn't like the sound of recoil of larger calibers. But she really enjoys shooting her .22. she will carry it because she is comfortable with it. No matter the size of the wepon, it does you no good if you don't carry it. To me, if that is all she will carry then that is what I will have to live with.
Thank you for sharing this information helped a lot. great video.
What a lot don’t consider is that a large amount of encounters will be one-hand draw and one-hand shot. Unless a range is setup to allow that DRAW, as you mentioned here, one never can evaluate his true ability in a quick defensive encounter and leads to WHY so many will NOT EDC or get involved in another’s defensive problem as what occurred at a WalMart parking lot. When considering a one-hand presentation it will have to be a one-shot encounter for most. Why a .22LR is a very EDCable weapon of choice.
22 LR very LETHAL, ACCURATE and CONFIDENCE INSPIRING for USABILITY, SHOT PLACEMENT, FOLLOW UP SHOTS, EASE OF CARRY and CONCEALMENT. THE 22LR IS AN EXCELLENT SELF DEFENSE and SELF OFFENSE tool. ALL around great round for putting holes in things. It's shooting made easy 101
That was a really well thought out and executed video. Great work. I'm in the same thoughts on getting a home defence gun for my wife. Thank you for doing this video@
Thank you for showing it on you tube have a good night 🙂
I bought my wife a ruger lcr revolver. 22 with a laser, she luvs it.
fantastic choice
To any anti-gunners or nervous folks (and I was both once upon a time) or anyone making fun of 22lr as a whimp's caliber, 22lr is perfectly fine if that's the max you're willing to go with for now even if forever. Ignore what others say. Just do your best. Take the responsibility. Protect yourself (and those you care about.) We are ALL 2A-ers. My preferred CCWs ... admittedly 9mm and 380 ACP but only after a year with a 22lr.
Paul Harrell does a good video on 22lr expansion. Conclusion was that anything with a 3” barrel and over will expand.
is that for like home and public defense on hjt........or is 20 gUGE BETTER FOR HOME
I trust the .22lr for self defense. It's actually my gun of choice over my 9mm and .38...
I have quite afew handguns and can shoot them all well. But the .22lr is my favorite to shoot. Its small, has no recoil and the handgun that i have is very accurate...
The size of the .22 makes alot of people not want to carry it, As if it isn't a large enough caliber.
It's plenty large enough to do damage and kill.. Larger caliber ammo is more expensive also, and unless you have a good income not many people can afford to shoot 100-200 rounds while target shooting. Its hard to get good with a gun that you hardly ever shoot because of the price of ammo. .22lr you can shoot all day and teach yourself to be accurate with it... I've also heard people talk about .22lr ammo not going off all of the time, but i've actually had more of my higher caliber ammo not go off than i have with the .22lr ammo.
For the average person, the .22lr is all that a person needs for self defense. That is unless you are planning on going full Rambo and bad guys jumping from roof tops every time that you try to go to Mcdonalds to get something to eat... Which is very unlikely. And on a side note, If someone is living in a place that has so much crime that you have to carry twin .44mags, then you probably need to move, Like yesterday.
I agree that the .22LR does have some disadvantages of that size caliber and being a rimfire cartridge. However, with good quality ammunition, practice and shot placement, it's a very lethal choice.
agree 100% with all you said
Great video. 22 LR is less recoil . The thing is hitting your target and shot placement . If you can not do that with a 9 mm, 40,45, and can do it with a 22 LR that would be the best choice.
+Motorman 0057 Thanks for watching Motorman! Shot placement is key. Thanks again.
The average combat distance is only a few yards. I dont see why somone who cant hit at that short range with a 9mm should do with 22. Shot placement is important but that rather an argument FOR a bigger caliber/woundchannel!
9mm also jackshit recoil !
lol no fuckin recoil
It's like in an article that I read recently, is that in most instances drawing and aiming your weapon will stop someone but the one sentence that stuck out is that "shooting someone no matter the caliber will generally stop an attack, simply because people don't want to get shot with any caliber pistol" unless you run into the rare superhuman you won't be in too much trouble, these guys did a study is 22 long rifle roundsself-defense situation along with other calibers as well like 45 ACP 40 Smith & Wesson 380 9 m m and they found that over 70% defensive situations they analyzed 22 long rifle was what was used because most people in America own at least one 22 caliber weapon but it'll be a rifle or a pistolwasn't what they were analyzing they were analyzing whether it was used in a defensive situation and their findings was basically 22 would be a viable option based on the data alone...I don't use my 22 pistol very often when I'm target shooting but I have a Marlin model 60 one of the original series ones that has a 17 shot tube and a 22-inch barrel and I can stack my bullets at 50 yardsI would not hesitate to grab that rifle if the need to defend myself arose, although I carry a 1911 45 ACP as a carry gun everyday I usually do have my 22 and a shotgun in the truck all of which I can stay comfortable and on target shooting... So anyone considering the 22 for self-defense I would say go for it if you can maintain accuracy and control on your target which most people can but other thing is shoot what you're comfortable with they make several carry weapons in the 22 caliber and my girlfriend can actually stay on target and stack 8 rounds in a Target the size of an eye socket within 5 yards
One of my go-to HD weapons is a 10/22 with a 110-round GSG drum mag filled with Aguila Interceptor HP's. These fly out of the rifle's 18.5" barrel at 1470 fps with a muzzle energy of 192 or basically the same as CCI Stingers but with a bigger bullet (40 gr. vs 32 gr.) and normal-length casing. The wound channels they produce in ballistic gel are pretty darn impressive.
Since it only takes one well-placed head shot to kill someone, with 110 rounds on tap, there's a pretty good chance that it's going to turn a perp's head into Swiss cheese.
The police use flash/bang grenades to disorientate people. The same effect occurs when firing a large caliber in an enclosed area. Multiple accurate shots will be very difficult. This is not a problem with 22lr. Shot placement is key and easy to do with 22lr. Over penetration is also a serious concern. I have an 8 shot Ruger LCRevolver that is reliable with any 22 ammo.
In this age of polymer everything, recoil-shy people who have a slight frame are constantly making the mistake of wanting a light weight gun. Heavier guns recoil less, no matter the caliber. I’m a proponent of .22lr for defense. But the ammunition and gun has to be rightand cleaned as often as it’s shot. My Browning Buckmark has went through around 3k rounds and it’s had two failures to feed. Both were Remington bulk box ammo. Never failed using CCI.
If you have an opportunity to ever go to a tactical gun range definitely do it ! The most fun shooting and kind of simulates a real life scenario and using multiple types of guns for each particular shooting station !!! Used mostly my 10/22 rifle ,22/45 pistol ,ak-47 ,ar-15 and my MODIFIED tactical 12 GAUGE mossberg shotgun
First gun I’ve shot was a .22 cal pistol. I think it’s a Smith. I love it. Maybe just like everyone.22 was the first firearm they shot.
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As an aside, I do conceal carry a Ruger LCP II .22LR loaded with CCI Velocitors as a BUG when in public. It is my EDC in an ankle holster while inside my home.
I C.C. and i carry a 45 , a 9mm , and a 22. I feel nothing wrong with a 22. Shot placement is very important. Thanks for the video.
You've seen nothing wrong with a .22, b/c you've only been Larping with your guns, like the rest of us. You've never shot at anyone with a .22 pistol and neither has anyone else in all of these comments.
@@axemanners6643 thank you for your comment.
I carry a Beretta 21A/22lr ...... it's better then nothing......One thing I really like about it, You can carry it around all day....If you know what I mean.
I'm a bigger fan of the 36g HP Mini-Mag, than the Velocitor. I've seen it expand consistently, to .40", from a handgun. The Velocitor will give you more penetration, but at the cost of expansion. They aren't designed to expand as much as the Mini-Mag. Even from a rifle. And with a handgun, sometimes no expansion. Just my opinion... Great video, and great topic.
This is a good reality based discussion. If you are a trained shooter adapt at gunfighting who shoots on the regular a 22lr is more than capable. I carry my Ruger SR22 on dog walks every night. It is very reliable and I am a surgeon with it.
.22lr is going fastenough using a small enough caliber that it has the ability to slip in there and penetrate. If you can get that small bullet where it needs to go, then it would probably be pretty effective.
While it's not Ideal for self defense, my wife carries a 22. She carries the Purple Ruger SR22. She has shot the crap out of that gun. She will head out to the range and burn through a 500 round pack. She can throw a target up a the back of the range and throw all 10 round in a circle the size of a 50 cent piece as fast as she can pull the trigger. Hers has second strike to help with the occasional primer that wont go off. We have some 22 snap caps and I will load the magazines for her and once in a while throw a snap cap in at random. That way she can practice a second strike and tap and rack to put it back into service. I know that she would be far more effective with that weapon than I will be with my 5 shot 38 snubby.
Why can't she carry a 9MM?
@@axemanners6643 Because she doesn't want to.
@@frugalprepper she lazy?
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@@frugalprepper who cooks dinner at your house; you, right?
22 is fine as long as your gun is dependable and rarely if ever misfires. Ammo selection is on point and your sights/optic is dialed in tight.
I fully agree, always put up a fight, if you play along and appear to be a victim you will become one. I have to add, I carry what I can afford, but I take extra time and effort to practice, because of that.
Excellent video! Well thought-out pros and cons. THANK YOU!
+Christopher Balish Thank you for watching!
In total agreement with you in that placement is what's more important than the power of the calibre, and mindset is the number one factor when shooting. I figure that a .22 is better than nothing at all, and better than fists, club or a knife.
I've got a revolver in .22 that has a magnum cylinder along with the lower capacity cartridges. Then there's my 1911-22 auto along with my .38 snubby that I carry most times. There's also a few other items in lock-up that could cause the average Joe to stop and rethink their attack. Either way, I love the magnum affect over the .38, but wish it was a DA instead of the SA style revolver.