I just shot a feature film on this camera. Absolutely blown away by the image, pure poetry. You will need to spend 70k on an Arri to get a better image. I shot into the Ninja 5 at 5.9k RAW. 422, 10 bit 5.9k RAW out of a camera body you can get for 1,300 bucks!!!!!!! (I think it is actually 12 bit going into the Ninja) I was shooting GH5 before I came across this camera, but I will never go back to micro4/3rds after shooting full frame on this machine. My DP said exactly the same thing and is now selling his GH5's. You do get slightly more rolling shutter, because of the full frame, so you would have to design your shots differently for an action film, but I cannot say enough great things about the S5. I was shooting GH$ and GH% before this and have to tell every filmmaker out there, FULL FRAME is 10 levels above M4/3. Obviously, if you shoot sports, or want a faster burst rate for stills or higher frame rates for slow mo you choose a different camera, but for narrative filmmaking this camera is stellar. I could be tempted by the Red Komodo because if the global shutter, but I prefer the image and color science out of the S5. Highly recommended. Thanks for the review, but you might even have under sold this fantastic machine.
After seeing this video, and several others, I am glad I ordered the S5. I shot a feature with the GH5. So, I think I will be quite happy with the S5. Great video.
@@kostanew2806 The S1 is better for Stills because higher burst rate, the EVF, if you want it has that extra LCD on top and then there is that Fuji styled flip screen also the S1 just straight up feels like a Photo camera though these things shouldn't make much difference in buying decision
@@alifsaufwan4245 there were roomers that GH6 will be more camera for sloggers. What ever it means! :) Another thing is switching ot FF is not cheat at all. New lenses... :)
Brilliant video, it flowed really well :) I'm a long-term G9 user and this seems like a good upgrade while keeping the G9 as a B-cam. The ending made me smile btw lol Does it have the 6k photo mode?
Nice review! I really would like to get into full frame for my portrait photography business. I wish Panasonic had simply put a full frame sensor into a G9 body! It's still the best mirrorless camera body I've used. The S5 looks great but I would so miss the top LCD status panel. The S1 layout is more to my liking but it's such a brick!!! Like someone took a G9 and recast it from lead. Native L mount lenses are pretty hefty too -- Nikon's Z glass seems noticeably smaller. Nikon's Z6ii seems like my next best option but then I lose all the familiarity I have with the Lumix system. Woe is me 😂
As an s1 owner the only thing that would bother me is seeing the focus of panasonic and the firmware updated to be focus on the s5, and the feeling that the s1 is neglected. I had that feeling when firmware updated began to roll out. But now i see that the s1 will be getting the raw over hdmi as well. But i do feel sometimes worried that the s1 is kinda being treaded like an old camera instead of a flagship camera as id like it to be. Also, i do have to take into account that the the entire firmwares updated did no even exist year's ago... We should still feel very fortunate that this products keep getting better after we buy them. For example, its incredible how much my autofocus has inproved since this last update I've even used it a few times :) so Even tho we are use to this i think its pretty amazing.
Panasonic should make a full frame range finder style camera like their GX Micro 4/3 series or like the Sony A7c
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I had the GX7 and the GX8, since those years where Panasonic only had the M4/3 format I have dreamed of a fullframe with the design of the GX line, Sony was ahead of them, although it seems a camera with many debts, Panasonic should surprise and offer a product as it always does: balanced and more cerebral.
As a photographer shooting Leica M lenses on S1 I will not go for the S5 because of this poor EVF. It’s the same poor quality as the visoflex of the Leica on my TL2 and I can’t make precise focus comfortably. Thanks to have spoken of this drawback that not all yet reviewer mention, like if they had some interest in saying only good points of this new S5
So tempting, especially since the A7 IV is still hard to get… but that autofocus… and the good lenses are fewer and more expensive than Sony’s so that money id save initially might be lost anyway 🤔
I currently focus on documentary films (on a very lean starting budget; all out of pocket) and my initial canera is the old Panasonic UX-180.... . I am looking at the S5 because the color science is similar, but it can push me closer towards the future..... from 8 bit and beyond. Plus it is a package that I can take on the motorcycle as well as hike with and has the weather resistance that the UX-180 does not have..... for out of the box, I can match the UX-180 with Cin-D mode, or switch to V-Log between primary and B camera..... that is my thinking anyway.
Seems like a great camera. All the early reviews I saw on it were trashing it based on the AF which I guess that’s all that anyone cares about on RUclips...
to be honest as a perspective buyer looking at s1 used prices and s5 new prices, i dont know if there is exactly a reason why i'd be upset for the s5 if i chose to buy the s1 lol Sidenote: i feel like the ibis performance difference of half a stop is due to the smaller footprint and weight not because it is an inferior ibis. i noticed this switching from canon 6d to sony a7 (the original) as the weight of the lens and body was also a way to "stabilize" my shots. and i can see physically that my hand shake affects the smaller camera a little more. which can go off to around half a stop of a difference. just a speculation
The S1/S1H is definitely noticeably better with stabilization. I think if S1 gets the same firmware updates as the S5, it will be so much more worth it... right in the footsteps of S1H but not needing the 2x price tag
I dont understand why the S5 has better features for a cheaper price compared to the S1... wish the S1 had the better 4K codecs and v-log integrated, as well as anamorphic recording modes.
I can explain. Basically Panasonic was full of themselves when they released S1 and S1H, thinking people would buy them based on GH5 fame. But S1H was way overpriced and lacking some critical features they were probably going to add in an update while the S1 feature set was purposefully gimped to not sabotage S1H. The products thus flopped and Panasonic panicked, decided to forget about S1 and S1H and put all resources into developing a camera as cheap as they can called S5 but with features of S1H/GH5 and more, trying their hardest to get the GH5 owners to convert after their failed attempt with S1 and S1H. It may actually work, but unfortunately leaves owners of the S1 series with a bad taste in their mouth. If Panasonic have any integrity they will update the S1 with these features, but they won't, they already made S1 owners pay $200 for a v-log firmware update, while the S5 just comes with these features plus more and at a lower price point. Basically Panasonic have their heads up their arses, but the S5 is undoubtedly a nice feature rich camera.
I'm looking to buy the S1R but only after the firmware update for the S5 autofocus comes out. I don't shoot video too much and the autofocus on the S5 should work for me.
Is there any noticeable difference in sharpness between the two cameras with the same lens and f-stop? Imaging-resource and dpreview studio samples show S1 significantly sharper than S5 at all ISOs for the same f-stop.
I upgraded from the GH5 to the S5 and although the S5 its a great camera, I'm not comfortable shooting with it. The viewfinder is awful and impossible to nail focus with it. Visually there is no that much differences between the S5 and the GH5 but the Gh5 feels so much nicer and better ergonomically when working. With the S5 I found myself changing the shooter speed all the time by mistake and the grip doesn't feel as good as the gh5. Probably the S1 is a better camera, but I was concerned about the weight. I'm still considering changing it for the S1
and what did u do? My S1 just arrived today, Yeaap it feels heavier than my a7III before. I've got 14 days to test it out, do u enjoy using s5? I'll see whether I'll get used to that weight after sundays's weeding xD Anyway, I feel like having a solid camera, not a toy like a7III haha, but I'll check a comfort of use... :)
@@2M62U I went to the shop and compare it with S5 and i finally decided to stay with S1. better size and quality screen, easier to see and focus. The flippy one at s5 is not in my type. Evf much better and that solid full hdmi made me sure to stay with S1, but vlog update is a must to get together with camera, it is a strong camera now. weight difference beetween these two isn't big, seemed quite similar for me, when I checked them both at the shop with my lumix 50mm 1.8. Also S1 has a 6k, which S5 doesn't.
S1, S1H, S1R, S5, the Panny cameras don't display actual image on neither EVF nor LCD, landscape photographers will find it difficult using CPL filters, because when they turn the circular polarizer, the image in the EVF or LCD stays unchanged, it's rather difficult to find the best angel for the polarizer. Very frustrating .... Maybe by taking several images or by pressing the preview button several times......
Just one more thing to consider, the Olympics are coming soon, and all these camera companies will be trying to release a host of new cameras with better features to get in on the action! So maybe, it is better to wait out and see if these companies will give more bang for the buck for our money ?
@@AlexJenkins From what research I have done over the past few weeks, I had shortlisted the Xt4, Z6ii and S5 cameras best suited for my needs i.e. 4k 60fps 10 bit 420 or cropped 422, 24-26mp sensor (FF but if not , then asp-c) with good balance of image and video capture capabilities. But each of these is not the perfect camera. Xt4 is not a FF, Z6ii cant do internal 4k 10 bit and S5 auto-focus is just way too bad for videos. However, I think it will be best to wait as Z6ii will release a new firmware in Feb 2021 that will allow for 10 bit recording (dont know if its 420 or 422, fully internal or 422 external). If they give option of 422 4k 60p fully internal , even with a crop, then this will be the camera for me. Also, Olympics is always a thing, these camera companies always launch new models with better features to capitalize on the fact that people buy new cameras for the Olympic events when they go there, and since this time Olympics are gonna be in JAPAN itself, where most of these companies are based, its no brainer that they all will try to outperform each other to increase their sales and make for the losses they all have suffered due to Covid. However the Olympics will be in July, and if you can't wait that long, then at least its best to wait till Feb 2021 when Nikon, Panasonic and a few others are expected to release new firmware upgrades for their S5, Z6ii cameras which will make these even better for videos. Till then, I will continue my research on youtube and the net because this will be my very first camera and it will not be just the camera that i will be buying but the whole ecosystem , most important of which are the lenses! And the best ecosystem for lenses are with Sony and Canon, mostly because they have been around for so long and hence are easy and cheap to buy. Cant say the same for the Fuji and Panasonic, and from what rumors i have heard, Nikon is bleeding a lot of money and may not be the best ecosystem to stay in the long run. The best ecosystem is with Canon and Sony, but they just don't have the cameras that I need right now ! lol (A7siii and R5 are out of my budget! , R6 is just a 20mp camera). So I wait.
Man this contrast autofocus sucks... if they change it this camera would be the best camera in this price range!!! :) I had a chance to test S5 for a few days and the autofocus is 80% of time accurate, which is good but not as good as Canon and Sony. If you want you can check out the test video in my channel. It was interesting experience.
I don’t know why would they flip out. The features of LUMIX S1 are better than S5. I tested both camera thrice and ordered the S1. Ibis is absolutely mind boggling and it’s body is same as S1H and with the promised updates it’ll be close to S1H. I got S1 Body+ 24-105F4+ Vlog + Extra battery for 2450$ which is quite a deal for such robust features. If you buy that lens separately it’s quite expensive and the one which comes with S5 is no where near it in performance and features. Just my opinion.
What do you think needs to be in the GH6 to be successful? The GH5 was such a game changer. I wonder if they can stuff in 10 bit 444 internal recording. Or maybe 12 bit (if I can be hopeful) internal. But seriously though, Panasonic needs to kidnap all the PDAF engineers from Olympus since nobody is selling Panasonic PDAF sensors.
This is a prime example of why I suggested to some friends that they shouldn’t buy the S1. I’m never a fan of any 1st generation tech. The subsequent improvements of next versions are always better for the money.
The S5 is a STEAL of a camera, with a beautiful image and fantastic dynamic range.Same sensor as the S!H. Peaking is FAR BETTER than the S1. AF is decent, but MF is what you should be shooting for video.
I just shot a feature film on this camera. Absolutely blown away by the image, pure poetry. You will need to spend 70k on an Arri to get a better image. I shot into the Ninja 5 at 5.9k RAW. 422, 10 bit 5.9k RAW out of a camera body you can get for 1,300 bucks!!!!!!! (I think it is actually 12 bit going into the Ninja) I was shooting GH5 before I came across this camera, but I will never go back to micro4/3rds after shooting full frame on this machine. My DP said exactly the same thing and is now selling his GH5's. You do get slightly more rolling shutter, because of the full frame, so you would have to design your shots differently for an action film, but I cannot say enough great things about the S5. I was shooting GH$ and GH% before this and have to tell every filmmaker out there, FULL FRAME is 10 levels above M4/3. Obviously, if you shoot sports, or want a faster burst rate for stills or higher frame rates for slow mo you choose a different camera, but for narrative filmmaking this camera is stellar. I could be tempted by the Red Komodo because if the global shutter, but I prefer the image and color science out of the S5. Highly recommended. Thanks for the review, but you might even have under sold this fantastic machine.
After seeing this video, and several others, I am glad I ordered the S5. I shot a feature with the GH5. So, I think I will be quite happy with the S5. Great video.
Still choosing between S5 and S1!? What is better for photography?
@@kostanew2806 I'd say the S1. Just because of the viewfinder and the screen. :3
@@kostanew2806 The S1 is better for Stills because higher burst rate, the EVF, if you want it has that extra LCD on top and then there is that Fuji styled flip screen also the S1 just straight up feels like a Photo camera though these things shouldn't make much difference in buying decision
I love the s5. One of the best cameras I've own. And I've had lots and lots of brands. First time trying lumix
The abrupt cutoff at the end was awesome lol
Hope all the GH5 users upgrade to the S5 so that I can finally afford a GH5 for cheap!
Shaun Yeoh lol
haha! GH5 user loyal to the next GH6 coming haha
@@alifsaufwan4245 the GH6 is 3 cameras not 1, 3 models, or so the rumor says
@@alifsaufwan4245 there were roomers that GH6 will be more camera for sloggers. What ever it means! :) Another thing is switching ot FF is not cheat at all. New lenses... :)
You could get the S1 much cheaper too. Seen a couple where I live
Brilliant video, it flowed really well :)
I'm a long-term G9 user and this seems like a good upgrade while keeping the G9 as a B-cam.
The ending made me smile btw lol
Does it have the 6k photo mode?
Nice review! I really would like to get into full frame for my portrait photography business. I wish Panasonic had simply put a full frame sensor into a G9 body! It's still the best mirrorless camera body I've used. The S5 looks great but I would so miss the top LCD status panel. The S1 layout is more to my liking but it's such a brick!!! Like someone took a G9 and recast it from lead. Native L mount lenses are pretty hefty too -- Nikon's Z glass seems noticeably smaller. Nikon's Z6ii seems like my next best option but then I lose all the familiarity I have with the Lumix system. Woe is me 😂
Dude, I subscribed instantly!
Absolutely liked the way you talk!
Both your voice and your language are very clean.
Why
S5 I might try it because the S1is more heavy and when you do weddings you feel that weight overtime.
As an s1 owner the only thing that would bother me is seeing the focus of panasonic and the firmware updated to be focus on the s5, and the feeling that the s1 is neglected. I had that feeling when firmware updated began to roll out. But now i see that the s1 will be getting the raw over hdmi as well. But i do feel sometimes worried that the s1 is kinda being treaded like an old camera instead of a flagship camera as id like it to be. Also, i do have to take into account that the the entire firmwares updated did no even exist year's ago... We should still feel very fortunate that this products keep getting better after we buy them. For example, its incredible how much my autofocus has inproved since this last update I've even used it a few times :) so Even tho we are use to this i think its pretty amazing.
Well spoken, good review, keep going young man, you got a great future, trust me.
Panasonic should make a full frame range finder style camera like their GX Micro 4/3 series or like the Sony A7c
I had the GX7 and the GX8, since those years where Panasonic only had the M4/3 format I have dreamed of a fullframe with the design of the GX line, Sony was ahead of them, although it seems a camera with many debts, Panasonic should surprise and offer a product as it always does: balanced and more cerebral.
As a photographer shooting Leica M lenses on S1 I will not go for the S5 because of this poor EVF. It’s the same poor quality as the visoflex of the Leica on my TL2 and I can’t make precise focus comfortably. Thanks to have spoken of this drawback that not all yet reviewer mention, like if they had some interest in saying only good points of this new S5
I just searched 10 min for my youtube password so I could log in and subscribe. xD
Amazing Video! Thanks for all the info.
So tempting, especially since the A7 IV is still hard to get… but that autofocus… and the good lenses are fewer and more expensive than Sony’s so that money id save initially might be lost anyway 🤔
great video! thanks. i want to move from DSLR to mirrorless? do toy recommend on the s5 or you think that the gh5s/s1 is better?
I currently focus on documentary films (on a very lean starting budget; all out of pocket) and my initial canera is the old Panasonic UX-180.... . I am looking at the S5 because the color science is similar, but it can push me closer towards the future..... from 8 bit and beyond. Plus it is a package that I can take on the motorcycle as well as hike with and has the weather resistance that the UX-180 does not have..... for out of the box, I can match the UX-180 with Cin-D mode, or switch to V-Log between primary and B camera..... that is my thinking anyway.
Panasonic just need to keep bringing out Firmware updates for the Panasonic S5. To get the Auto focus slot better
Hoping u show off the 6k video/photo mode. Idk why no one has mentioned it yet 😭
Great review, you're hysterical!
Seems like a great camera. All the early reviews I saw on it were trashing it based on the AF which I guess that’s all that anyone cares about on RUclips...
Good video! The s5 is solid
Nice camera. Reminds me of the R6. Nice test footage/b-roll!
to be honest as a perspective buyer looking at s1 used prices and s5 new prices, i dont know if there is exactly a reason why i'd be upset for the s5 if i chose to buy the s1 lol
Sidenote: i feel like the ibis performance difference of half a stop is due to the smaller footprint and weight not because it is an inferior ibis. i noticed this switching from canon 6d to sony a7 (the original) as the weight of the lens and body was also a way to "stabilize" my shots. and i can see physically that my hand shake affects the smaller camera a little more. which can go off to around half a stop of a difference. just a speculation
The S1/S1H is definitely noticeably better with stabilization. I think if S1 gets the same firmware updates as the S5, it will be so much more worth it... right in the footsteps of S1H but not needing the 2x price tag
The difference in IBIS alone would make me choose the S1 over the S5
But the S1 is $700 more if you include the v-log upgrade right? That's quite a hefty price tag for just IBIS improvements.
And the EVF is wayyy better on the S1.
High Resolution mode on S5 can be better used for astro or at least for slightly longer exposure photos.
I dont understand why the S5 has better features for a cheaper price compared to the S1... wish the S1 had the better 4K codecs and v-log integrated, as well as anamorphic recording modes.
I can explain. Basically Panasonic was full of themselves when they released S1 and S1H, thinking people would buy them based on GH5 fame. But S1H was way overpriced and lacking some critical features they were probably going to add in an update while the S1 feature set was purposefully gimped to not sabotage S1H. The products thus flopped and Panasonic panicked, decided to forget about S1 and S1H and put all resources into developing a camera as cheap as they can called S5 but with features of S1H/GH5 and more, trying their hardest to get the GH5 owners to convert after their failed attempt with S1 and S1H. It may actually work, but unfortunately leaves owners of the S1 series with a bad taste in their mouth. If Panasonic have any integrity they will update the S1 with these features, but they won't, they already made S1 owners pay $200 for a v-log firmware update, while the S5 just comes with these features plus more and at a lower price point. Basically Panasonic have their heads up their arses, but the S5 is undoubtedly a nice feature rich camera.
I'm looking to buy the S1R but only after the firmware update for the S5 autofocus comes out. I don't shoot video too much and the autofocus on the S5 should work for me.
Is there any noticeable difference in sharpness between the two cameras with the same lens and f-stop? Imaging-resource and dpreview studio samples show S1 significantly sharper than S5 at all ISOs for the same f-stop.
I upgraded from the GH5 to the S5 and although the S5 its a great camera, I'm not comfortable shooting with it. The viewfinder is awful and impossible to nail focus with it. Visually there is no that much differences between the S5 and the GH5 but the Gh5 feels so much nicer and better ergonomically when working. With the S5 I found myself changing the shooter speed all the time by mistake and the grip doesn't feel as good as the gh5. Probably the S1 is a better camera, but I was concerned about the weight. I'm still considering changing it for the S1
and what did u do? My S1 just arrived today, Yeaap it feels heavier than my a7III before. I've got 14 days to test it out, do u enjoy using s5? I'll see whether I'll get used to that weight after sundays's weeding xD Anyway, I feel like having a solid camera, not a toy like a7III haha, but I'll check a comfort of use... :)
@@Arkadiusz4321 So what did you choose finally? :)
@@2M62U I went to the shop and compare it with S5 and i finally decided to stay with S1. better size and quality screen, easier to see and focus. The flippy one at s5 is not in my type. Evf much better and that solid full hdmi made me sure to stay with S1, but vlog update is a must to get together with camera, it is a strong camera now. weight difference beetween these two isn't big, seemed quite similar for me, when I checked them both at the shop with my lumix 50mm 1.8. Also S1 has a 6k, which S5 doesn't.
both camera is at 2,000 . should i get the s1 or the s5.
Very good review
S1, S1H, S1R, S5, the Panny cameras don't display actual image on neither EVF nor LCD, landscape photographers will find it difficult using CPL filters, because when they turn the circular polarizer, the image in the EVF or LCD stays unchanged, it's rather difficult to find the best angel for the polarizer. Very frustrating .... Maybe by taking several images or by pressing the preview button several times......
At which focal length do you start to see warping in the IBIS?
grate video bro, Saludos
change the autofocus system and i'll buy one
So the recording limits is the only important difference.
At this price point....I think I might get this instead of the Xt-4. Full-frame for just $200 more. Unless someone can talk me out of it?
i am thinking the same.
Only thing that bothers me is the auto-focus, its the worst among all of them.
Just one more thing to consider, the Olympics are coming soon, and all these camera companies will be trying to release a host of new cameras with better features to get in on the action!
So maybe, it is better to wait out and see if these companies will give more bang for the buck for our money ?
@@ParikshitBhujbal is that a thing? The Olympics? I never considered that before.
@@AlexJenkins From what research I have done over the past few weeks, I had shortlisted the Xt4, Z6ii and S5 cameras best suited for my needs i.e. 4k 60fps 10 bit 420 or cropped 422, 24-26mp sensor (FF but if not , then asp-c) with good balance of image and video capture capabilities.
But each of these is not the perfect camera.
Xt4 is not a FF, Z6ii cant do internal 4k 10 bit and S5 auto-focus is just way too bad for videos.
However, I think it will be best to wait as Z6ii will release a new firmware in Feb 2021 that will allow for 10 bit recording (dont know if its 420 or 422, fully internal or 422 external). If they give option of 422 4k 60p fully internal , even with a crop, then this will be the camera for me.
Also, Olympics is always a thing, these camera companies always launch new models with better features to capitalize on the fact that people buy new cameras for the Olympic events when they go there, and since this time Olympics are gonna be in JAPAN itself, where most of these companies are based, its no brainer that they all will try to outperform each other to increase their sales and make for the losses they all have suffered due to Covid.
However the Olympics will be in July, and if you can't wait that long, then at least its best to wait till Feb 2021 when Nikon, Panasonic and a few others are expected to release new firmware upgrades for their S5, Z6ii cameras which will make these even better for videos.
Till then, I will continue my research on youtube and the net because this will be my very first camera and it will not be just the camera that i will be buying but the whole ecosystem , most important of which are the lenses!
And the best ecosystem for lenses are with Sony and Canon, mostly because they have been around for so long and hence are easy and cheap to buy.
Cant say the same for the Fuji and Panasonic, and from what rumors i have heard, Nikon is bleeding a lot of money and may not be the best ecosystem to stay in the long run.
The best ecosystem is with Canon and Sony, but they just don't have the cameras that I need right now ! lol (A7siii and R5 are out of my budget! , R6 is just a 20mp camera).
So I wait.
yay new video
The only reason why I didn't buy a gh5, g9 and will no buy S5 because Of the autofocus
What cameras are you looking at instead?
@@dericsanchez4081 sony S7iv.
Ysmael Pascual should be a sweet camera when it does come out!
@@dericsanchez4081 I have the money to buy it i just have to wait.
Ysmael Pascual well lets hope they announce it soon. That’s what I’ve been waiting on too.
Man this contrast autofocus sucks... if they change it this camera would be the best camera in this price range!!! :)
I had a chance to test S5 for a few days and the autofocus is 80% of time accurate, which is good but not as good as Canon and Sony. If you want you can check out the test video in my channel. It was interesting experience.
whose sensors are used in S1 &S5?
This camera vs sony c7 ??
S1 owners are still flipping out.
Actually they can't flip out. But the new S5 owners can.
Ryan A Lee i love your comment
@@ryanalee4747 unfortunately.
I don’t know why would they flip out. The features of LUMIX S1 are better than S5. I tested both camera thrice and ordered the S1. Ibis is absolutely mind boggling and it’s body is same as S1H and with the promised updates it’ll be close to S1H. I got S1 Body+ 24-105F4+ Vlog + Extra battery for 2450$ which is quite a deal for such robust features. If you buy that lens separately it’s quite expensive and the one which comes with S5 is no where near it in performance and features. Just my opinion.
Video spec wise is there anything the S5 has but the S1 doesn't ?
S1 is better see future updates sheet on Panasonic website.
Full sized HDMI port. Huge if you want to use an external monitor or use external raw recording on a Ninja V.
This thing will do prores raw externally. This is more like a s1h than a S1.
I'm holding out for the GH6.
Why ? S5 is the new gh6.
What do you think needs to be in the GH6 to be successful? The GH5 was such a game changer.
I wonder if they can stuff in 10 bit 444 internal recording. Or maybe 12 bit (if I can be hopeful) internal.
But seriously though, Panasonic needs to kidnap all the PDAF engineers from Olympus since nobody is selling Panasonic PDAF sensors.
I completely agree with you. 12 bit Pro-res Raw internally, built-in ND filters. Better auto focus etc.
@@Filmmaker809 ohhh yes. If there's internal ND, I'm switching instantly. Idc what the a7iv is like.
@@professionalpotato4764 Cool dude!
And now dear Nikon dropped the Z5. If we only take into account the FF sensor and related price tag then the Nikon wins for me
The price for the S1 and S5 is now the same where I live.
where do u live?
I do live in NZ and here the S5 incl. 20-60 cost at the moment under 3k
This is a prime example of why I suggested to some friends that they shouldn’t buy the S1. I’m never a fan of any 1st generation tech. The subsequent improvements of next versions are always better for the money.
The S5 is a STEAL of a camera, with a beautiful image and fantastic dynamic range.Same sensor as the S!H. Peaking is FAR BETTER than the S1. AF is decent, but MF is what you should be shooting for video.
Everywhere I look, the s1 is cheaper.