Giant Maestro Suspension Rebuild Explained
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Part 2 of my Giant Trance rebuild. In depth breakdown of the Giant Maestro suspension linkages and how they are assembled. I hope you like the video. Please comment if you have any feedback.
Please don't ever delete this. You literally saved my life for my reign remount 🤣
Exactly the detail I've been looking for. I've been trying to get the courage up to replace the pivot bearings on my 2017 trance and this has me feeling like I can do it now. Thanks!
Good luck!
Both tapered washers fell out, and your video saved me...Thanks!
Same here, they fell out before I could see which way they were in. I guessed, and then looked at this video. (I had guessed correctly, but good to know).
I appreciate you showing the correct part next to an incorrect part that someone might confuse it with.
I have a 2015 Trance and this last spring (2023) I rebuilt the frame for the third time.Sooner or later it will be time to move on but that bike has been so great and the frame still works great since I take care of it.
I think I still like the Maestro the best out of what’s out there and they can last a long time.
What a great video friend, like you there is no one better explaining, just this day I had the doubt with the bottom back of my reign 2 2016
Thanks! I tried to make it applicable to all bikes, not just Giant Maestro bikes
Just wanted to let you know that I used your videos to guide my through pivot bearing replacement and reassembly of my 2018 anthem. Bearings were a hassle because of the lack of a press kit but I got it done. Reassembly was a breeze due to your video. Thanks so much.
Thanks for the kind words. I'm not the most interesting videos but I feel like they're the most educational.
Great video, just got a Giant Trance Advanced Pro 2 so this came in very handy. Although I have a creaking noise when I pedal hard and took the cranks out and regreased everything but still creaks.
mine too. i fear that on my personal Trance (not in the video) one of the bearing sockets might be a little out of tolerance, thus causing the creak. I just had to get over it unfortunately. It is sometimes one of the perils of full suspension.
This and the bearing video were critical for me in my bearing service. Really well explained, and I feel like I have a much better understanding of my Maestro suspension. My only advice to readers is not to wait 3 years of wet muddy English weather to do this service. My bearings were in rough shape and I had to get the assistance of my LBS to get the upper-rocker-to-frame and lower-rocker-to-chainstay bearings removed.
I think my lower bearings only make it about one season in Kentucky where we dont even ride wet! Haha
Very well explained video.
Thank you, I now have the courage to do my own.
this is just what I've been looking for, thank you!
Glad I could help!
this is likely the best mtb tech channel I’ve come across. Few suggestions for videos that are not done well today and that I’d really appreciate to see: fox float 34 fork service, shock service, wheel service.
Also, assembling the maestro suspension, I think the outer bearings might've been greased bit too much in this video. I’ve had troubles cleaning the grease that escaped when being pressed with the final screws.
@@zemiak7 I have heard the same from other people about the grease. I typically just wipe off the excess after i tighten the bolts. Any time i have removed the bolts, most of the excess grease from installation has already washed away.
I plan on doing a fork service soon and i'm going to try to explain how everything works so you can apply it to other forks as well.
Thanks for the kind words about my videos, I am always trying to improve with each video and any feedback is SUPER helpful. I am certainly my own worst critic.
Great video! helped me out in my Anthem 2016 rebuilt process. Thanks for posting
Amazing video. you made this easy for a first timer. thanks
Great video! Much appreciated! Especially all the tips about those little spacers!
Straight to the point. No bs. Top job.
thank you very much for this video, it helped me a lot, keet it up !
thanks man! this saved my life!
Another great tutorial. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Nice! Really educational
Thanks!
I love you more about the trance please
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the great video!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks a bunch
Hello, great video.
Would the grease on the outside of the bearings that you are putting on not attract sand/dirt thus turning it into a gritty paste? The bearing seal should keep contaminants out and grease in just as it’s designed for.
That's possible but what I usually see when I clean mine out is no remaining grease in that space at all. Much of it gets rinsed out over time. It is also there to reduce corrosion on the steel races of the bearings.
Thanks for the video-- very informative. Could you tell me where you are able to find replacement parts for Giant Maestro Suspension- Bolts , etc.
Is there specific bolts order that we undo first when we disasemble the rear triangle while everything is on frame. I wanted to ask is there any tension while the shox is in place is any of the bolts gonna have tension on them, just so i dont damage threads while trying to undo them. Thank u
Hi I have just replaced the pivot bearings on my 2019 Reign 2 and there is a slight gap left between the chainstay links and where it joins the rocker arm on each side. The bearings look like they are seated all the way in and flush and there is a spacer between the bearing and rocker arm on both sides. The bolts are torqued up to the recommended 15nm too. Am I missing something? Any help appreciated
Amazing video but it's the outside of the bearing that gets locked, if not your bearing is broken and we wouldn't be able too remove the axels. But amazing video :)
Really very informative video. I am servicing my rear shock this month and this video helps a lot. Can you also provide links to the bearings. I want to buy a set so they are ready when the time comes. Mine is a Trance 2021.Thanks
Best bet is to go to your local dealer with the serial number and get the kit from them. If you want to replace specific bearings, grab the bearing codes off the seals like discussed in the video and get them individually.
Great video I just looked trying to figured out how to upgrade mi rear shock . Just one question ,the shock doesn’t has eyelet bushing ?
Hello. May I ask for the details of the spacers on the lower shock mount? the wide black ones. my Goant reign x1 has missing spacer in the lower mount.😭 Thank you.
Does it have the same parts as the reing sx 2022? I need to maintain the swingarm and I can't find the service manual.
Hey there, can you by any chance give me the measurements of those spacers at 11:00 right as you mention that its a common mistake to forget them :D I bought a giant trace 29 2020 used and it seems like the previous owner didnt install them when he changed the shock.
same here, bought a 2018 reign and it didnt have any spacers
Hi! Thank You for video. Tell me which side to put the spacer between the upper shock bearing and the carbon part?
Between the carbon part (the upper rocker arm) and the top of the shock body (the part of the shock that is threaded). The other side of the bearing (towards the bolt head) contacts the bolt head via a very small built-in spacer that I mention in the video.
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great, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
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Amazing video 🤘🏽, someone knows the torque maestro for reign advance, thanks, please more videos like that
Thanks! Will do!
Would you happen to know the type of bolt for the trunnion mount? M10 x 1 x 17mm (18mm head) for example. Trying to track down one bolt without having to buy the entire rebuild kit.
I highly recommend you do not try to use some other bolt. This is machined specifically for this purpose to the precise tolerance needed. It also has things like the specific shoulder that contacts the inner race of the bearing when installed.
Great video! Do you have the bearing Id number for the lower swing arm bearing?
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Hi! So theres a difference between the two spacers between the rocker arm and the frame in the middle and the spacers for the rear of the rocker arm? And the 2 othersfor the top of the shock? Sorry for my bad english, i’ m french
the 6 small silver spacers are identical. These go on all three positions of the upper rocker arm. There are two different pairs of slightly larger, darker colored spacers that are different from each other. The tapered spacers are for the rear side of the lower rocker arm and the swing arm. The non-tapered spacers are for the front of the lower rocker arm between the rocker and the front triangle bearings.
Hi, first of all thanks for the video!
at minute 11:00 you show how to mount the upper part of the shock (trunnion part) and you show the two grey spacers to insert before connecting the shock. the problem i have is that when i add the spacers the shock won’t fit in, do you have any advice for this problem?
Yes. This is a common issue. Start by trying to install the shock to the upper rocker with the rocker disconnected from everything else. If that doesn't work, you need to press out the bearings ever so slightly. It is easiest to do with the maestro kit I use in the video.
@@richardsbikeshop5268 thank you, i’ve managed to install it but it was an hard job.
Hey, do you know if previous Trance frames like 2016 need spaces in the upper rocked arm (long skinnier bolt)?
Great explanation and to the point, thanks very much. I am doing some "spring cleaning" on my mtb and decided to replace my bearings since the bike has been creaking some. Do you recommend specific brands and/or do you know the easiest way to shop for them?
I am a Giant dealer so I typically buy the kit that includes bearings, spacers and pins. If you would like to replace individual bearings. Enduro Max bearings are the go-to. Just make sure the size codes match.
Many thanks, keep up with the vids!
Hi there, what is the recommended period of time to replace the berings? When do I know that bering needs to be replaced?
In the bearing video in this series I talk about this a little bit. Turn the bearings and feel if they are rough to turn. Also see if you can move the inner race of the bearing side-to-side. the thing you'll notice while the bike is built up is usually noise in the pivots.
Instantly subd! Perfect amount of detail in the explanation and very clear and specific. Quick question about bearings because I'm about to order some for me 2017 trance. All of the original ones say 6900 VRS, 6800 VRS etc. Is it ok to replace with the same 6800/6900 but 2RS instead of VRS? 2RS is readily available. From what I understand VRS is used for high speed full rotation applications, which the pivot linkages definitely do not undergo. Would the 2RS versions be ok?
2RS would be just great. No worries.
@@richardsbikeshop5268 just replaced all of them yesterday and followed your video to the T..thanks again!
which grease do you use? is there a special manufacturer recomendation or just a general one?
cheers
I use the park tool PPL green grease. There isn't a manufacturer recommended one.
Where can I buy for a giant trance 2022 ?
Giant reign 6.0 maestro Lower linkage bolt kit how to order?? From phillippines ? Thank you
Great video. We bought a second hand 2012 GIant reign frame and have to do full rebuild.
Any chance you can point me to the right full bearing and bolt set?
Best place to look is your local dealer. Giant offers a bearing (and bolt) set for the lower link as well as the upper link. If memory serves, it is about $80 for the whole kit. If you want just the bearings, look at the seals, get the sizes, check Enduro bearings.
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At 11:00, you talk about the mistake of not adding the spacer for the upper rocker arm. I am putting my wife's 2015 Liv Lust 1 back together. It appears there was no spacer there when I took it apart, and the frame seems to be "built out" right there and appears to be identical to the size of a spacer. When I tried to add a spacer, the rocker arms (there are two and they are split) seem wobbly and appears too wide to the connection to the top of the shock. Have you worked on a Liv like this one?
I am quite familiar with the 2014-2016 series maestro systems. Are you talking about the bolt through the upper shock eyelet, the upper swing arm (rear triangle) or the seat tube of the front triangle?
@@richardsbikeshop5268 I bet that it is the bolt in the seat tube. I have trance 2015 and with spacer i got the same problem as Joe.
Hi bro. How to service giant tracker boost 12_148 sealed bearing rear hub.please show me video. I like your video. My country is Myanmar. I need your help.
The bearings are just cup and cone bearings like one of my other videos. The freehub body is a sealed unit and isn't really serviceable unfortunately.
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