So what do you think about this, how important is the slab quality and label appearance? All of the CGC/CBCS/PGX comparison videos are here: bit.ly/32y9Wv9
@@ComicsRediscovered I like the way CBCS slabs have the QR code that you scan with your phone that links directly to the grader notes. You don't even need a login.
CBCS is the new wave!!! I've been a long time CGC user but im glad CBCS has stepped up their game so much recently. Im 75-25 split on submitting to both with CBCS taking the lead due to their 2 day modern service and their Verified Sig program.
They do for a $5 fee. I have them put the graders notes on all of mine. It’s nice to have the notes and to see why the book received the grade it was given. 👍🏻
Wow yeah that's fantastic, something that separates them from CGC. I saw a book with those newton rings, I thought something was damaged with it! Scared the crap out of me! Good to know it's nothing! I didn't buy the book because of it. Damn well I guess we all learn lol.
I've never submitted any comics to get graded or even held a slabbed book so I don't have much say in terms of sturdiness of the cases, but from what I've seen in a lot of youtube videos CBCS has the most, to me, appealing cases and labels. I heard that CBCS doesn't have the white box around the grade because they want you to focus on the book and then the grade, which I think its 100% right. So for that if I were to submit comics I'd choose CBCS. Their price, turnaround times, and just overall quality of the product to me seem the best. This video was really helpful, keep up the great work!
Thanks for this great comparison! As someone who's new to slabbed comics, I know I've been seduced by CGC not only due to the strong esthetics of their label but because of their market dominance. Since I live in Canada, it would definitely be easier for me to send my books to CBCS.
Hello mate, first time to see your show and just subscribed, OK, first I really don't trust CGC, rather it is pricing, grading (especially when resubmitting and you get a different grade), etc. But the best info from CBCS is that they state that their labels are to promote the comic book and not have their label be the focal point like CGC. I only use CBCS now and love it, if I were to list for sale, I would put the same price as CGC and so far no complaints. Thank you for your show and look forward to the next one.
I agree 100% about the cases. I’ve had numerous slabs come back from both CBCS and CGC and I’ve never had a problem with CBCS. There is a better clarity and they just feel sturdier. I’ve said it numerous times but if they could get a custom label from DC or any of the independent companies, it would be a game changer for CBCS.
agree, I'm surprised they haven't tried it all ready. They've been doing lots of signings, even if just for that offer a special label it would greatly change their appeal to some collectors. Thanks for watching and commenting!
What CGC has over CBCS is custom labels. That's it. Yes, their case is very nice and I have no doubt that it protects my books. The reality, though, is that CBCS has a better case. Another facet of the debate could also come down to overall quality of service between the two companies (I've never dealt with PGX - full disclosure). I could go into how I have 25 returns (lint in the capsule, scuffed cases, label errors, cracked cases) for CGC this year and it's only the middle of February, and none whatsoever for CBCS. But I won't...
haha man that sucks! thats a lot! Their quality definitely took a hit with the influx of submissions. I had a cracked cases as well (See the unboxing video), but I also had scratches from CBCS. I think the customer service from all 3 companies is mostly terrible ( theres a video for this too) Thanks for commenting!
I sent to PGX once as a test. I had 2 books in 9.6. Both needed a press and minor dry clean to achieve 9.8. Neither got it despite paying for it as the minor indents were still there. Both slabs were littered with paper detachments, both were squint in the slab and one had a piece of black debris freely moving around the slab. The last slap in the face was that the shipping on the invoice was way more expensive than on the box. The box what they actually paid at the post office. I was overcharged $29. Needless to say customer service never replied to any of my 8 emails over 2 months. The company is a shambles. Also, their slab has ZERO security features, its a glorified picture frame. You will notice there is a male/female peg on each corner of the slab. This is to close it together. And thats it. You can lift the slab open. At most run your fingernail along the seam to seperate and lift it off. Makes the grade UTTERLY redundant when you can access the book. Lastly there is a Profesor in the comicbook community from Washington. He did UV tests and found none of the 'big 3' offer any UV protection. So dont keep your slabs in direct light!!
Damn that sucks, my experience with them wasn't that bad haha. And no worries my home office/collecting room has UV treated windows. Thanks for the watch and comment!
I prefer the look of the CBCS labels over CGC. To me, the CBCS labels have a more modern look and I like that they tried something different by not putting the grade in a "window". I look at the custom labels from CGC as a money grab and they are designed poorly. Take a look at the Fantastic Four label, you can't even see the Thing because the hologram sticker is covering him up.
Great video bud. I did this type of video and compared cgc and cbcs. It's cool you added PGX. I think it will always come down to personal preference although CGC has been having issues over the last 12-16 months. You did a great job on this video, I sunned you up.
A black, dark blue, or charcoal label with white, light gray, silver metallic, or gold text; as long as the design is on point, would blow all three out of the water.
I sent some off to EGS recently and should be getting them back soon also. Looking forward to how the comics will look in their cases and they have custom labels. They are working on a new case which should be good.
entirely possible, but I don't know why they wouldnt make that a selling point if it was something they could prove. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Respectfully, that white box for the grade is SUPER tacky from CGC, I cringe every time I see it, kinda sucks that PGX took inspiration from that part of CGC’s design. CBCS has the right idea leaving the white box out from the grade number.
Just binged these videos. Fantastic content, more than earned yourself a sub. I've been leaning towards CBCS for a while now, and this series has convinced me to go with them for books in my PC. I'm still kind of on the fence for books I plan to sell. I've got a Tomb of Dracula 10 that I'll probably end up going with CGC. Also have a Hulk 181 without the MVS - I'll have to check, but I don't think CBCS does green labels? That may make the book more appealing for a buyer despite not being a CGC book. Thanks again for the analysis!
Well, after having looked - CBCS doesn't do qualified grading, so the best the Hulk 181 would get is a 1.5. It was a CGC green label 6.0 before cleaning and pressing, so I'll resubmit to them to get the higher qualified grade.
I kind of bounce back and forth with CGC and CBCS. Leaning more towards CBCS. Have you looked at EGS? They have some really nice custom labels. Might get one done there.
Hey Rich thanks for watching and commenting, a lot of people keep mentioning egs recently. I looked at them before and have started looking again. I'll do a full review of it once I commit
I agree, CGC look nicer in general, Newton rings ruin that alot tho. CBCS cases are way way better than anyone elses. So much sturdier, but i do fear they might be subject to scratches easier , but time will tell with that.
Amazing video man! I never submitted before and feel a bit overwhelmed haha can’t decide which company to go with. When do you decide to go with CBCS or CGC? Is it the era of the book? Book from your PC? Wanting to flip/profit off the book? 💯👍🏼
thanks for the comment and kind words. Right now I only use CGC for their signings, otherwise they've totally ruined their legitimacy with the recent debacles. CBCS has terrible Customer Service but is otherwise good Check out the other videos in this series it will show you every aspect: ruclips.net/video/4e3U0Bjy120/видео.html
Awesome video. Do a video for fellow Canadian comic collectors who want to send to cbcs but are unsure what shipping or customs costs that may be incurred. Do you send your books to the Toronto CBCS office and they send and mail back to you?
Personally I think PGX looks the nicest plus they authenticate signatures which is cool they Do that plus they’re the most affordable option For Grading
@@waynegram8907 over time UV exposure yellows pages or turns them brittle. Check out Immaculate Comics here on RUclips, Rick has done some experiments showing UV with slabs
@@ComicsRediscovered There is NO Slab that CGC, CBCS or PBX that has UV protection? so what is the point of getting the comic book Slabbed? I'm not sure what it means when comic books are "trimmed" which trimming is a type of scamming done when grading
I personally did not notice the clarity difference in the cases of CBCS and CGC. But I think that is because I am less picky in that area. I am more concerned about the look of the label and CGC has an edge over CBCS in that area in my opinion. However, I like both CGC and CBCS and have books slabbed by both companies.
Great Vid! Perfect comparison that is based in fact and not hear say. I agree CBCS is better. The case is heads and tales above. It’s tough for me to give CBCS the nod with the crap you know they have been putting me through, but there is no denying how great the cases are. Nice job
I think its one of those design choices that people are familiar and comfortable with because of CGC. It took me a little while to adjust as well and I actually like it better without, if CBCS started putting that white window it would just be copying again
Do any of these companies demand a higher premium, like how for cards a psa graded card is worth more than most other companies slabs (except Beckett black label but that’s a different thing all together). Just wondering if cgc popularly might be cause by this.
people will say CGC always sells for more...but I'm not sold. I think it is sincere for those people that they will only pay more for CGC but the comic market fluctuates so much day by day that I think it is more of a perception. They were also first to market and do the best job of marketing. Thanks for the comment!
My only wish for CBCS is if they would keep track of their graded comics the way cgc does so you can know how many slabs of that grade are in the market
The thing I find missing is wait times back from grading companies.... If I have a signature series book from before 1975 I may wait a year to get it back from CGC... The cost of grading also is a significant factor in that the slab can cost more than the value of the comic...The cost of the grading companies is a huge factor for me especially with older books. With CGC the price of grading can be a percentage value of the overall book... Can one afford to have an Amazing fantasy 15 graded by CGC at 3% of market value ($30,000 to grade)? Comics prices go up and and down... If you have money or capital in comics that are away for grading there is a huge opportunity cost...I like graded comics but the wait time of months and quality control of handling make it prohibitive ...Also, the game of if you get a comic that is a 9.4 re-sumbit it and get back a 9.8.... just resub until you get the grade you want... I am am not talking about PBX in this case as for one highlight of them there turnaround times are great if you are really just looking for the extra protection of your book ( really is not the point of a Slab is a super bag and board with a person's opinion on that day)
You're spot on with a lot of this comment. The wait times are killer in a lot of instances, and the percentage grading cost for us average collectors makes it untenable. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@ComicsRediscovered I feel that the "window" makes it look commercialized. Something that has been professionally graded rather than looking to commercial.
Honestly might start getting cbcs slabs instead. The white window on the grade honestly looks a bit cheap to me and I think they tend to go cheaper on ebay
CBCS has superior cases. If their TAT's were better, I'd use them exclusively. Current books at CGC are around 2 months. Current books at CBCS are around 9 months.
hey John thanks for commenting, didn't forget them. I just don't think they're part of this conversation yet. I am however going to submit to them sometime this year and try it out. I'll post a review once I do
CBCS is by far the best bang for the buck. They have the most accurate and consistent grading of the 3 companies. Their cases are sturdier and clearer, and their pricing and turnaround times are better than CGC. Stay away from PGX if you ever plan on selling your comics. That company is the kiss of death for resale as their grading is not nearly as accurate as the other two, and they have some shady history.
This video is more a review of the quality of the cases and design, not the quality of the grading service of each company. I own slabs from all three and while I agree the CBCS cases are better the grading consistency at CGC is unrivaled which is reflected in the prices of CGC books.
you are correct, there is a separate video regarding the other elements like grading and customer service. Thanks for watching and commenting ruclips.net/p/PLl801LWSkP9ErhUN6bYjW00tSA04ZpRxV
Just discovered your channel. Like your videos, but man the music you use in your videos is horrid! As for the three cases, I have preferred CBCS over CGC for quite some time. I've never seen a PGX case irl, so have no opinion on them. I also prefer the CBCS label over CGC.
I have both cgc and cbcs but overall i buy cgc more. the first ever cbcs book i got had a air pocket somewhere along the seal so if u squeezed it a bit air would come in and out. Probably a rare case since i haven't had the issue anymore. Pgx labels just throw me off cgc is my pick.
its a hard split, they're both really good from what I've experienced. Everyone has had at least one issue with one company or the other haha thanks for commenting!
all 3 designs looks like made by a 7 year old kid, I don't get it, are too basic in bad way, I myself can do better (I'm a designer), those companies have a lot money to hire a good designer. the main goal of those labels should be not distracting, CBCS looks less distracting, but God that typography and awful blue is too much.
So what do you think about this, how important is the slab quality and label appearance?
All of the CGC/CBCS/PGX comparison videos are here: bit.ly/32y9Wv9
I prefer the look of the CGC label, but their higher pricing, newton rings, and paywalled grader notes make me a CBCS customer.
ya the grader notes is annoying. theyve now said grader notes are available for all...if you have a membership
@@ComicsRediscovered I like the way CBCS slabs have the QR code that you scan with your phone that links directly to the grader notes. You don't even need a login.
ya its a nice feature to include
CBCS is the new wave!!! I've been a long time CGC user but im glad CBCS has stepped up their game so much recently. Im 75-25 split on submitting to both with CBCS taking the lead due to their 2 day modern service and their Verified Sig program.
ya the 2day modern is real fast! thanks for watching and commenting! Hope you check out the rest of the series
One plus about PGX is that they put graders notes on backside of labels
Indeed. I think it's $5 to do that. However if you email them to ask for graders notes they don't respond at all
They do for a $5 fee. I have them put the graders notes on all of mine. It’s nice to have the notes and to see why the book received the grade it was given. 👍🏻
Wow yeah that's fantastic, something that separates them from CGC. I saw a book with those newton rings, I thought something was damaged with it! Scared the crap out of me! Good to know it's nothing! I didn't buy the book because of it. Damn well I guess we all learn lol.
This is the best slab comparison video I’ve seen by far! S
Thanks Bruce! Hope it was helpful
You didn't mention the QR code on CBCS labels which take you to the grader notes.
you're right! I was thinking of what things I may have missed. Thanks for pointing it out!
notes on your specific issue? or just example of grading guidelines?
grader notes for your specific issue
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o wow that sounds good..I've been agonizing over tryin decide who to use for some key issues
@@sim7409 cbcs is definitely worth a look
I've never submitted any comics to get graded or even held a slabbed book so I don't have much say in terms of sturdiness of the cases, but from what I've seen in a lot of youtube videos CBCS has the most, to me, appealing cases and labels. I heard that CBCS doesn't have the white box around the grade because they want you to focus on the book and then the grade, which I think its 100% right. So for that if I were to submit comics I'd choose CBCS. Their price, turnaround times, and just overall quality of the product to me seem the best. This video was really helpful, keep up the great work!
thanks man I appreciate the thoughtful response, glad it was a help to you
Thanks for this great comparison! As someone who's new to slabbed comics, I know I've been seduced by CGC not only due to the strong esthetics of their label but because of their market dominance. Since I live in Canada, it would definitely be easier for me to send my books to CBCS.
for sure the seduction is strong. If you're in Canada its certainly worth looking into CBCS. It is a longer window though so take that into account
Great comparison video and I really enjoy the unbiased reviews. I Subscribed and now I'll be binge watching your videos! Lol
thanks so much, really appreciate you watching and taking the time to subscribe and comment! cheers!
Thank you for such a helpful and informative video! :)
thanks for watching and commenting!
I prefer CBCS. I actually like the look of their labels better than CGC. Cgc’s grade will always look like a sticker to mr. CBCS looks clean.
I agree I think cbcs has a real clean look
Hello mate, first time to see your show and just subscribed, OK, first I really don't trust CGC, rather it is pricing, grading (especially when resubmitting and you get a different grade), etc. But the best info from CBCS is that they state that their labels are to promote the comic book and not have their label be the focal point like CGC. I only use CBCS now and love it, if I were to list for sale, I would put the same price as CGC and so far no complaints. Thank you for your show and look forward to the next one.
I agree they should be listed at the same price. The value of the book should be based on the grade. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I agree 100% about the cases. I’ve had numerous slabs come back from both CBCS and CGC and I’ve never had a problem with CBCS. There is a better clarity and they just feel sturdier. I’ve said it numerous times but if they could get a custom label from DC or any of the independent companies, it would be a game changer for CBCS.
agree, I'm surprised they haven't tried it all ready. They've been doing lots of signings, even if just for that offer a special label it would greatly change their appeal to some collectors. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Too bad they don't hold the same value as cgc.
What CGC has over CBCS is custom labels. That's it. Yes, their case is very nice and I have no doubt that it protects my books. The reality, though, is that CBCS has a better case. Another facet of the debate could also come down to overall quality of service between the two companies (I've never dealt with PGX - full disclosure). I could go into how I have 25 returns (lint in the capsule, scuffed cases, label errors, cracked cases) for CGC this year and it's only the middle of February, and none whatsoever for CBCS. But I won't...
haha man that sucks! thats a lot! Their quality definitely took a hit with the influx of submissions. I had a cracked cases as well (See the unboxing video), but I also had scratches from CBCS. I think the customer service from all 3 companies is mostly terrible ( theres a video for this too)
Thanks for commenting!
I have 2 faves.. CBCS and EGS. The new CBCS slabs and EGS slabs are very nice quality.
I haven't tried EGS yet but it keeps coming up so I might need to send something to them soon
@@ComicsRediscovered they are pretty good friend
Awesome review- CBCS is right near my house and in my experience, they have the most solid slab- New Subscriber, looking forward to new content..
thanks for watching! the comment is very much appreciated. No doubt the cbcs slab is real solid
Happy new year dude!
Happy new year!
I sent to PGX once as a test. I had 2 books in 9.6. Both needed a press and minor dry clean to achieve 9.8. Neither got it despite paying for it as the minor indents were still there. Both slabs were littered with paper detachments, both were squint in the slab and one had a piece of black debris freely moving around the slab. The last slap in the face was that the shipping on the invoice was way more expensive than on the box. The box what they actually paid at the post office. I was overcharged $29. Needless to say customer service never replied to any of my 8 emails over 2 months. The company is a shambles. Also, their slab has ZERO security features, its a glorified picture frame. You will notice there is a male/female peg on each corner of the slab. This is to close it together. And thats it. You can lift the slab open. At most run your fingernail along the seam to seperate and lift it off. Makes the grade UTTERLY redundant when you can access the book. Lastly there is a Profesor in the comicbook community from Washington. He did UV tests and found none of the 'big 3' offer any UV protection. So dont keep your slabs in direct light!!
Damn that sucks, my experience with them wasn't that bad haha. And no worries my home office/collecting room has UV treated windows. Thanks for the watch and comment!
I prefer the look of the CBCS labels over CGC. To me, the CBCS labels have a more modern look and I like that they tried something different by not putting the grade in a "window". I look at the custom labels from CGC as a money grab and they are designed poorly. Take a look at the Fantastic Four label, you can't even see the Thing because the hologram sticker is covering him up.
I also appreciate that they did something new and on their own and not just a copy of someone elses design
Great video bud. I did this type of video and compared cgc and cbcs. It's cool you added PGX. I think it will always come down to personal preference although CGC has been having issues over the last 12-16 months. You did a great job on this video, I sunned you up.
ya personal preference will play a big role for everyone, I appreciate the kind words and the sub!
A black, dark blue, or charcoal label with white, light gray, silver metallic, or gold text; as long as the design is on point, would blow all three out of the water.
Useful video, and well presented!!
Glad it was helpful!
I like CGC. However, I recently tried EGS. Haven’t gotten anything back yet but they have nice cases from what I have seen
I sent some off to EGS recently and should be getting them back soon also. Looking forward to how the comics will look in their cases and they have custom labels. They are working on a new case which should be good.
I've recently been looking at them too, maybe in the new year
I thought I read someplace that CBCS cases are about 20% more UV resistant than CGC cases. I wish I could find where i read it.
entirely possible, but I don't know why they wouldnt make that a selling point if it was something they could prove.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Respectfully, that white box for the grade is SUPER tacky from CGC, I cringe every time I see it, kinda sucks that PGX took inspiration from that part of CGC’s design. CBCS has the right idea leaving the white box out from the grade number.
I like the cbcs better as well
Just binged these videos. Fantastic content, more than earned yourself a sub.
I've been leaning towards CBCS for a while now, and this series has convinced me to go with them for books in my PC.
I'm still kind of on the fence for books I plan to sell. I've got a Tomb of Dracula 10 that I'll probably end up going with CGC. Also have a Hulk 181 without the MVS - I'll have to check, but I don't think CBCS does green labels? That may make the book more appealing for a buyer despite not being a CGC book.
Thanks again for the analysis!
Well, after having looked - CBCS doesn't do qualified grading, so the best the Hulk 181 would get is a 1.5. It was a CGC green label 6.0 before cleaning and pressing, so I'll resubmit to them to get the higher qualified grade.
Hi David, thanks for the comment. I'm glad these videos have been helpful and I appreciate the sub.
CBCS has been pretty good for me all around
A clean and press is always worthwhile before any grading
I kind of bounce back and forth with CGC and CBCS. Leaning more towards CBCS. Have you looked at EGS? They have some really nice custom labels. Might get one done there.
Hey Rich thanks for watching and commenting, a lot of people keep mentioning egs recently. I looked at them before and have started looking again. I'll do a full review of it once I commit
I agree, CGC look nicer in general, Newton rings ruin that alot tho. CBCS cases are way way better than anyone elses. So much sturdier, but i do fear they might be subject to scratches easier , but time will tell with that.
thanks for the comment! I agree I'm not too sure about long term scratching. However I have removed light scratches with a simple cleaning cloth
Amazing video man! I never submitted before and feel a bit overwhelmed haha can’t decide which company to go with. When do you decide to go with CBCS or CGC? Is it the era of the book? Book from your PC? Wanting to flip/profit off the book? 💯👍🏼
thanks for the comment and kind words. Right now I only use CGC for their signings, otherwise they've totally ruined their legitimacy with the recent debacles. CBCS has terrible Customer Service but is otherwise good
Check out the other videos in this series it will show you every aspect: ruclips.net/video/4e3U0Bjy120/видео.html
@@ComicsRediscovered subscribed!
Awesome video. Do a video for fellow Canadian comic collectors who want to send to cbcs but are unsure what shipping or customs costs that may be incurred. Do you send your books to the Toronto CBCS office and they send and mail back to you?
good idea! I might work on that once all of these comparisons are done. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Personally I think PGX looks the nicest plus they authenticate signatures which is cool they Do that plus they’re the most affordable option For Grading
PGX does a pretty good job. I've only used CBCS signature authentication, but I might give PGX a try for that as well
Which Slabs protect the comics pages from UV light? the UV light will cause the discolored pages to turn yellowish color?
@@waynegram8907 over time UV exposure yellows pages or turns them brittle.
Check out Immaculate Comics here on RUclips, Rick has done some experiments showing UV with slabs
@@ComicsRediscovered There is NO Slab that CGC, CBCS or PBX that has UV protection? so what is the point of getting the comic book Slabbed? I'm not sure what it means when comic books are "trimmed" which trimming is a type of scamming done when grading
I personally did not notice the clarity difference in the cases of CBCS and CGC. But I think that is because I am less picky in that area. I am more concerned about the look of the label and CGC has an edge over CBCS in that area in my opinion. However, I like both CGC and CBCS and have books slabbed by both companies.
me as well. If I'm buying a book I don't have a preference one way or another. Thanks for watching and commenting
Great video. Tyvm. I have a question about my personal collection of autographed books? How can I PM you?
You can find me on Instagram under the same ID. RUclips doesn't allow PM anymore
Great Vid! Perfect comparison that is based in fact and not hear say. I agree CBCS is better. The case is heads and tales above. It’s tough for me to give CBCS the nod with the crap you know they have been putting me through, but there is no denying how great the cases are. Nice job
They certainly are flawed as a company but if we're looking just at cases I think there is a compelling case (no pun intended) to be made
I think I would use CBCS, however I am somehow bothered by the label not having the white space behind the grade.
I think its one of those design choices that people are familiar and comfortable with because of CGC. It took me a little while to adjust as well and I actually like it better without, if CBCS started putting that white window it would just be copying again
Accentuates the Comic not the Score imo.
@@grandmarquee BINGO 🙌🏾
Do any of these companies demand a higher premium, like how for cards a psa graded card is worth more than most other companies slabs (except Beckett black label but that’s a different thing all together).
Just wondering if cgc popularly might be cause by this.
people will say CGC always sells for more...but I'm not sold. I think it is sincere for those people that they will only pay more for CGC but the comic market fluctuates so much day by day that I think it is more of a perception. They were also first to market and do the best job of marketing. Thanks for the comment!
My only wish for CBCS is if they would keep track of their graded comics the way cgc does so you can know how many slabs of that grade are in the market
They do, they have a census population report on their website
www.cbcscomics.com/population-report/
The thing I find missing is wait times back from grading companies.... If I have a signature series book from before 1975 I may wait a year to get it back from CGC... The cost of grading also is a significant factor in that the slab can cost more than the value of the comic...The cost of the grading companies is a huge factor for me especially with older books. With CGC the price of grading can be a percentage value of the overall book... Can one afford to have an Amazing fantasy 15 graded by CGC at 3% of market value ($30,000 to grade)? Comics prices go up and and down... If you have money or capital in comics that are away for grading there is a huge opportunity cost...I like graded comics but the wait time of months and quality control of handling make it prohibitive ...Also, the game of if you get a comic that is a 9.4 re-sumbit it and get back a 9.8.... just resub until you get the grade you want... I am am not talking about PBX in this case as for one highlight of them there turnaround times are great if you are really just looking for the extra protection of your book ( really is not the point of a Slab is a super bag and board with a person's opinion on that day)
You're spot on with a lot of this comment. The wait times are killer in a lot of instances, and the percentage grading cost for us average collectors makes it untenable. Thanks for watching and commenting
All CBCS needs to do is window in the grade, then everyone would be happy with the look.
I'm not sure it needs the window, to me that seems like one of CGC's signature design choices. Thanks for watching!
Ya I don’t get cbcs, I mean they pretty much copied cgc from the start why not just do the window in the grades and make collectors happy.
@@ComicsRediscovered I feel that the "window" makes it look commercialized. Something that has been professionally graded rather than looking to commercial.
Honestly might start getting cbcs slabs instead. The white window on the grade honestly looks a bit cheap to me and I think they tend to go cheaper on ebay
they are great slabs, more people should look into using them
just found this new sub here great job
Thanks, appreciate the watch and sub!
the CGC custom label is covered up with the hologram so why have it like that?
ya its poor placement. they should move the holo to the back for the custom labels like the do any key notes
Great video!
Thanks bruh, appreciate it!
CBCS looks much more professional and aesthetic for putting on the wall in your home. With CBCS the slabs are sturdier and clearer.
CBCS has superior cases. If their TAT's were better, I'd use them exclusively. Current books at CGC are around 2 months. Current books at CBCS are around 9 months.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I've consistently found the cbcs tat faster than cgc, currently listed at 4 months
I like CGC cases 👍
The qr code on the back puts cbcs over the top for me cgc makes you pay for graders notes and cbcs gives you a link
indeed. The QR is a very nice touch, way easier too
Are these the new cgc slabs ?
yes they are. Its been a few years now since the redesign of the slabs
Resale value is the only thing that matters and cgc rules that realm.
Did you forget ESG grading?
hey John thanks for commenting, didn't forget them. I just don't think they're part of this conversation yet. I am however going to submit to them sometime this year and try it out. I'll post a review once I do
I hate custom labels, I don't need graphics on the top, looks intrusive to the cover.
EGC NEXT?
possibly, I've been thinking about testing them out
how bout cost? who best deal?
PGX is the cheapest
CBCS is by far the best bang for the buck. They have the most accurate and consistent grading of the 3 companies. Their cases are sturdier and clearer, and their pricing and turnaround times are better than CGC.
Stay away from PGX if you ever plan on selling your comics. That company is the kiss of death for resale as their grading is not nearly as accurate as the other two, and they have some shady history.
This video is more a review of the quality of the cases and design, not the quality of the grading service of each company. I own slabs from all three and while I agree the CBCS cases are better the grading consistency at CGC is unrivaled which is reflected in the prices of CGC books.
you are correct, there is a separate video regarding the other elements like grading and customer service. Thanks for watching and commenting
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@@ComicsRediscovered Great video, keep it up. I like the deep dive approach.
Just discovered your channel. Like your videos, but man the music you use in your videos is horrid!
As for the three cases, I have preferred CBCS over CGC for quite some time. I've never seen a PGX case irl, so have no opinion on them. I also prefer the CBCS label over CGC.
Thanks... I think lol unfortunately music is limited to what's copyright free on youtubes platform unless you want to pay for it
Cgc price is going up
I heard... Talk about shooting yourself in the foot
I have both cgc and cbcs but overall i buy cgc more. the first ever cbcs book i got had a air pocket somewhere along the seal so if u squeezed it a bit air would come in and out. Probably a rare case since i haven't had the issue anymore. Pgx labels just throw me off cgc is my pick.
its a hard split, they're both really good from what I've experienced. Everyone has had at least one issue with one company or the other haha thanks for commenting!
The CGC number stands out too much and distracts form the beauty of the Comic.
Thanks for commenting! I like the cbcs number more myself but a lot of people seem to love the cgc number box I dunno why it's such a beloved feature
all 3 designs looks like made by a 7 year old kid, I don't get it, are too basic in bad way, I myself can do better (I'm a designer), those companies have a lot money to hire a good designer.
the main goal of those labels should be not distracting, CBCS looks less distracting, but God that typography and awful blue is too much.
You should send them some mock ups for better labels
What about EGS ?
The Future of comic book grading
Oh, BTW PGX is trash
I don't know about "the future of", but I already have some books to send down to EGS later this year to test them out. Thanks for watching!
@@ComicsRediscovered I love their labels