Is Mecklenburg Worth Getting In 2024?
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i'm really enjoying this "vs 2024" series. I'd like to see how some of the tech tree ships hold up. Like the North Carolina, Petro, Montana, etc. Especially ships that you covered a long time ago that you considered good (like NorCal) to see if that opinion has changed.
North Carolina and Petro sounds like really interesting review. Especially when Petro used to be extremely over-powered when it came out.
@@klmntsyeah true, but that was I think 3 years ago.
I find aiming high on the armour belt for broadside battleships gives nice damage.
Yeah this is the exact thought I had when watching him shoot at the water line. I honestly go for mid/high belt even in higher caliber battleships cause I'm so tired of half the shells landing short when I do otherwise.
100%. If you aim for upper belts on BBs with the Schmeckle, you'll get like ~20k damage salvos on them consistently. Not citadels necessarily, but consistent big salvos that you can pepper between all the fires you're setting. You only aim waterline for Cruisers, which you will absolutely smash with the 305s. The nice thing about the lower calibre too is that light cruisers like Jinan or Smolensk won't troll armour you, they'll just die. Mecklenburg is absolutely amazing at smashing DDs and Cruisers, which is honestly a lot more important than cits on BBs imo.
Potato also kept shooting AP at stuff line the nose-in Burger, which is when he should've switched to HE and aimed for superstruture to set a million fires. Meckle has basically Conq/Vincent levels of fire setting ability.
Mecklenburg is one of the most consistent BBs in the game, which makes her legitimately one of the strongest BBs in the game if you play to her strengths. That does make Gun Feeder mandatory to accomplish that, and Secondaries are a waste to build into :P
I played Meck alot of times in Assym. Learned too that aiming for the upper belt is the way to go when dealing with BB's. I choose 15-20k salvo every 23 sec instead of trying to get cits.
Michelangelo has the biggest space armor I have ever seen so it was actually amazing that you even got a citadel from that salvo. I have seen Vermont getting no citadel from a broadside Michelangelo at similar ranges.
I just can't unsee this, but in almost every game you're aiming for BBs' belt armour no matter the range as if you're a Slava. Outside 10km, RNG generally says no unless the ship you're shooting is known for having a weak armour profile.
Also, on some ships the main belt counts as torpedo protection so that is again BB-thickness belt armour you're shattering against.
Michelangelo has a pretty troll citadel, so it was more about the armor profile than dispersion. Especially with lower caliber guns or bb's with short fuse you're unlikely to get many citadels even in good scenarios like in this vid.
Well no match for St. Vincent. It just eat cruisers...
You were getting too greedy going for citadels on that Monty. The trick with consistent damage against BBs in Mecklenburg is to aim for the upper belt. You do significant chunk damage per shell, which combined with the accuracy and shell volume means very very bad things for your opponent. 15-25k per salvo isn't hard to get at all, even at range. Had one game where I met a Yamato coming around an island and got eight cits and another four pens to send him to port in one salvo.
The shells aren't bad, per se, just need to learn how to use them.
15-25k isn't at all impressive especially without the ability to citadel
@@xxxthwagdrakexxx4672 perhaps not, but you don't get 3/9 hits with two torpedo belt hits plus an overpen either. You also don't overpen small cruisers like Smolensk. Mecklenburg isn't a 'swing for the fences' BB, but something that just does consistent damage when it hits, which is a LOT, given its insane accuracy.
@@xxxthwagdrakexxx4672 15 to 25k every ~20 seconds while they are on like 2 or 3 permafires is quite a lot of damage quite quickly. Mecklenburg is probably one of the easiest BBs to farm damage in.
@@MattH88S I can do that on my monty with a citadel threat
@@xxxthwagdrakexxx4672 Monty has substantially less fire setting capabilities, and not nearly the same shell consistency that Mecklenburg has. Mecklenburg currently has the highest AP DPM of any T10 BB currently in the game. She consistently vomits out damage, while having torps, turtleback, speed, AA, decent secondaries, etc. She doesn't have the alpha threat against BBs that a Monty has, certainly, but she's a much bigger threat to DDs and Cruisers than a Monty is, which are far more impactful ships to deal with than BBs.
I have played the mecklenburg quite a lot and has done quite well with her, I average about 150k damage and 60 percent win rate on 140 games played, and most of them are solo games. Mecklenburg is one of my most consistent bb and I think that that is her biggest strength. I would say that her he is actually very strong, due to the cruiser dispersion and German quarter pen, it does consistent damage against bbs even from 20 km away despite the lower alpha damage, with alright fire chance. I would say she’s even more consistent than the British bbs at he spam when it comes to long range engagement. Her playstyle would be sitting back and spamming he at battleships in the early game, since she’s a lv 9 hull and would die very quickly if focused. But when it comes to late game she’s very impactful since she has secondary and torps for close range engagement and the German sloped armour allowing her to play more aggressive when needed. I’d say it is my favourite steel ship by far.
I agree. PQ is very AP-focused and uses it way more often than I would.
I like her a lot, she is just very consistent. I probably overuse AP, but I do fairly well, I mostly see her as a pure dmg dealer and that is how I play her, mostly on the flanks or in the mid spamming ap at everything broadside or with a large superstructure, mostly long range, but as the game progresses I go closer and am more aggresive. I'd say PQ does a bad job at aiming, because a lot of time he could be doing 15-20k, but does like 5k because he shoots at the more armored parts.
Mecklenburg is amazing. Bad turret angles is only real weakness
Glad to see you are doing this. Wanted to pickup a steel ship and it’s between Mecklinburg, Lauria, and ( sad to say) Gato. Thanks.
Russian Railguns are more exception than the rule, they have more penetration than some battleship caliber guns.
most BB's at this tier have enough armor to shatter 15-16" shell at 16-18km, let alone 12" with nearly half the penetration, aiming for citadels against tier 10 BB's past 10km is no go
Agreed, even Petro at 12km against a Monty can be quite iffy and it's usually better to go for upper belt.
2 things
1. A petro can citadel an Ohio at 18km so for sure it can cit a Montana at 12km
2. Don't go for cits in the meck, aim for upperbelt/ superstructure
it doesnt have pen to cit most BBs so going for full pens works out much better
I love my Meck. 3 out of 5 games I always get more then 130k damage points, one game below 70k, when I simply can´t get along with the map and occasionally one total loss. As soon as I will constantly get over 130 main hits, I will start using Lütjens on her too.
Good point about Lutjens.
Have to admit. I have about 15,000 games and can only remember losing a turret once in my early days. I really thought that I was no longer a possibility.
excited to see the incomparable video. It's the ship i've been eyeing
You can use AP against broadside BBs just aim upper belt
This ship and "The Bagette are the 1st 2 steel ships you should get
Michelangelo video next? Been playing it a bunch this week since unlocking it and its gotta be a new favourite, so weird but so fun, consistent 10k damage salvoes into anything just about, secondaries that go out to 10.5km and hammer destroyers, fuel smoke to rush in close and torpedoes, soo good
Such a good series with so many recent patches, not to mention subs going full time. I just passed on this ship and with the Stali instead. Not in love with either, Stali is old and would hate to miss out because it gets pulled.
Thank you for this steel series look! I'm about to have enough for either this or the new Italian BB and its tough
It might not cittadel T10 BBs but it makes up for dev striking Minotaur and Smolensk, because these guns don't overpen low armor cruisers like all other BBs do.
Your issues with the 305's are your OWN issues due to the fact that despite knowing that they are 305's your expecting and play with them as if you are playing with higher caliber guns. As for that copium towards the Michelangelo salvo, that ship have a VERY troll citadel, so troll that I can go and say it's more troll then the HENRI's cit. 305's vs BBs, ALWAYS aim for the upper belt. As for the HE, the alpha may be "low" but the PEN and the fire chance with so many shells per salvo is disgusting to say the least. The AA is very strong too, t8 cvs tend to avoid Mecklens like it's the plague and some t10 CVs think at least twice before committing to you. You are right about the firing angles thou... Big weakness for sure as your "armor" tends to eat a sh*t metric ton of PEN dmg that your heal can't compensate. As for the torps, they are OK but only IF they are NOT destroyed by the 1st HE shell that lands near them...
One of my favorites just because of accuracy. As a famous barrel maker once said, "Only accurate rifles are interesting." Nothing pens like Soviets.
Your reviews are much appreciated for their common sense approach.
You should review HMS duke of York sometime! BTW great vid
Nice game, it's a good BB. Aim for upper belt bro, not belt unless sub-10km.
I appreciate your honesty in your gameplay, both good and misplays. Perhaps I’ll try continue my T5 I think Rhein-the German CV. 🤣
GERMAN ENGINEERING BEST SEKAI ICHI FOREVER! 🔥
I’ve pretty much given up on German BBs and have switched over to US for now.
I think my biggest problem with the Mecklenburg is after playing the Agir I expected a lot more damage output.
I'm probably wrong but I was under the impression that the Mecklenburg had the same guns as the Agir. Despite having Way less guns. I consistently do more damage with it on broadsides And while having very high hopes for the Mecklenburg, I was quite disappointed
I didn't even know it's possible to permanently damage your main guns.
Have had nice games in Meck. Averaging under 100k damage so I'll try aiming a bit higher. Best game to date is 317k damage and 6 kills. Gotta love having 16 guns.
i just stick to he's and secondaries with the mecklenburg then watch everything catch fire.
Hey there PQ. I've seen you do a lot of BBs and sometimes cruisers. I'm interested in seeing more DD play if that would strike you fancy to try? -StarJewel.
Cant wait for Lauria's video, I have no steel ships and I know Bourgone would be the best first one, but there is something about Lauria that makes me waste steel on it.
I have both ships and HIGHLY recommend you pick up the Bourgogne first. It is a great ship! I have not been impressed with the Lauria and wished I hadn't picked it up.
What mod(s) are you running that display ship ID and player ID above the ships in battle?
It’s not a mod, you just go into HUD settings and change alternative interface mode to full
That Roonburg xD
im waiting for the steel series recommendations in 2024...im closer to getting my first steel ship
Did not get it yet, but.... Bourgogne's 380 guns look lot better then these 305 guns.
I just got this ship today. I have 10 to 15 games in and I just hate it. Sooo many overpens against cruisers, shatters and bounces on BBs. I got it thinking it'd be like a big Brandenburg, which I love. But it's really not fun. The meta doesn't at all support the play style of this thing. Way too much long range spam and bb ap raining down on you the whole match. I'd take GK over this any game. The secondaries aren't worth a damn either.
One could simply farm damage with AP on the upper belt of broadside BBs...
Can you review Stord 43? I’ve had a lot of fun with it and I main bbs.
I really wish they had done 4 turrets of Bismarck guns with cruser accuracy. I feel it fits better as a german ship, the quad turrets just look wrong on a german ship to me
What do you think about the Goliath? Rarely see it in battles
Ship request: Carnot 👀
Would you get the Lauria before the Mecklenburg, or after?
Common theme with PQ almost every video is he aimed too low lol
"Mecklen Roon" hurt insanely hard as a German... Don't do that, that's really just gross
What does it mean lol
@@andyjin1453For starters, the anglophone pronunciation of Roon is already way off the mark. A German would pronounce it more like how an anglophone would pronounce "rone" (probably still not perfect, but it's closer).
@@Frigidblood oh ok
Mecklen Roon 😏
@@andyjin1453it really doesn't mean anything, it's the first part of a name paired with a surname that is neither regionally correct, nor historically, nor ethnically. It's just a complete mess and doesn't make any sense 😅😂
Get something else before Mecklenburg. On paper it looks really OP but those gun angles and really long reload are a real sour pill. Ship is also basically useless in ranked.
Just like WOT, hidden stats that WG doesn't want players to know about.
So I’m new to the game I almost have enough for my 2nd tier 10 ship the u 2501 but I’m wondering if I should hold out and continue down the German battleship line any insight or advice please
Schlieffen line is faster and squishier than the other, but it is a secondary monster line. The other is the tanky one. Save up coal for commander Lütjens, his talents are very usable on any kind of german ship. Buffs to main battery, secondary battery, healing ...
Awesome ship. I love mine.
How do I enable the view of the spotter plane?
mecklenroon is genius ngl
Day 1 request for taking out Tier 8 cruiser Baltimore.
Ikr, I’ve been saying this for years ngl
Im doing decently good in the balti in ranked. but DES MOINES with 21 point commander is just straight up disgusting. I easily get 100k dmg games in Des Moines consistently. and in ranked you can brawl a couple of brawling battleships 1v1
Can ya do Salem next please.
I wish there were another ways to get steel, Mecklenburg is one of the ships i want the most in the game
Ranked and Clan Battles give a lot.
@@EvoraGT430 OP said that, cause that mode have steel rewards beside daily login and crates
I don't want to sound like a critic because PQ is a far better player than I am, but... those are Agir guns, there is nothing special about them, if you played Agir you know what they can do and cannot. Trying to citadel battleship and fail really doesn't prove anything. Also, Macklenburg has 16 guns with standard battleship cruiser dispersion and 2.05 sigma. If you are not satisfied with its accuracy, then there is literally 0 battleships you will ever be satisfied with, not even Thunderer or St. Vincent, both of them have worse sigma. If you focus on showing bad salvos wit this ship then you will have endless clips to show with any other battleships. Why even make video then? If I have to find one problem with PQ's channel that could hurt his viewership, it is his constant complaint about battleship accuracy even when talking about basically one the most accurate battleships in the game.
for someone who doesn't seem to enjoy RNG, you sure play a lot of battleships
I noticed in the previous vid he had over 1.7 Million XP on the Shikishima, which he seems to hate.
Buffing Subs ? in the development log they talk about giving Subs buffs ! WTF ? Like subs need buffs, 20 % turning improvements do dodge depth charges, hydro so they can light up ships within their range ? Subs are already OP and hard to deal with, more cancer to destroy the game even more. 😡
Mecklenroon ftw
I see in your best game you fired 0 HE :p
Im your 50.001 sub lol
04:15 beaching fully broadside in front of two enemy hard hitting botes`?
>professional gamer LOL
>stopped watching there
Hehehe uhhh I was the Essex to whom you didn't like my name unfortunately.
I did my best to save the repub and try to support our team but man did this team throw hard.
Good job then .
I know that War Gamings match making is total shit now days, it sucks. Games with 2 CVs and 2 or 3 subs are more the norm than not and total shit shows, thanks for ruining a once fun game WG.
the only thing German bbs are good for is there secondary's the way i play them is full w key then b4 the match starts go and make a cup of coffee and take a bathroom break going full afk bc otherwise they are absolutely useless with there dispersion
For most of them, that's fair, but not this one.
Asking again for Gato since you're doing steel ships
It's not a ship, it's a disease.
Torp protection negating all damage is kind of BS. If torp protection was that good in real life Germany could have made Bismarck out of torp protection and the British would have never been able to sink it.