Did Taylor Swift SNUB Celine Dion? + Jay-Z Roasts EVERYONE! Body Language Analyst REACTS!
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2024
- Taylor Swift accepted her 4th Grammy Award for "Record of the Year" breaking the record for most wins in that category! However, everyone seemed to be more focused on her strange behaviors towards Celine Dion who presented her with the award! Later in the evening, Jay-Z added to the headlines with his controversial speech advising the Grammy's to "get it right" about Beyoncé! But what do their body language, facial expressions and word choice reveal? Find out NOW!
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CLIPS FROM VIDEO
Taylor Swift Accepts "Album of the Year" Award from Celine Dion:
• TAYLOR SWIFT Wins Albu...
Jay- Z Speech:
• JAY-Z Accepts Dr. Dre ...
Celine Dion Entrance:
• GRAMMYs: Celine Dion M...
Celine Dion Sings "My Heart Will Go On"
• Céline Dion - My Heart...
Kanye West Interrupts Taylor Swift Speech at the 2009 MTV Music Awards:
www.tiktok.com/@tanaslaughter...
Beyonce Breaks Record for Most Grammy wins in 2023
• Beyoncé Breaks Record ...
ARTICLES FROM VIDEO
Celine Dion and Stiff Person Syndrome
www.cbsnews.com/news/what-is-...
Celin Dion Grammy's Appearance
deadline.com/2024/02/celine-d...
Celine Dion and Taylor Hug Backstage
www.vanityfair.com/style/tayl...
People Magazine Article About the Backstage Hug
people.com/taylor-swift-hugs-...
Taylor's PR Team and the backstage photo
radaronline.com/p/taylor-swif...
Jay-Z Comments on Kanye's Interruption at 2009 MTV Music Awards
www.nme.com/news/music/kanye-...
Jay-Z Pulls a Kanye
www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/mu...
RESSOURCES & RESEARCH
Eye brow flash in conversational emphasis
www.semanticscholar.org/paper...
Facial Bloodflow and Stress
www.sciencedaily.com/releases...
TIMESTAMPS
02:30 Taylor Swift & Celine Dion Body Language
12:50 Why did Taylor Swift Ignore Celine Dion?
18:49 Jay-Z's Controversial Speech
22:40 Jay-Z & Beyoncé Body Language
28:55 Why Did He Say That?
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Hey Everyone! Glad everyone is enjoying the video, loving the respectful conversations in the comments 😊. I have one important ellaboration and a controversial thought I wanted to share so here goes.
1) I only saw one comment about this but I, myself, am not entirely satisfied with how i explained it so I want to clarify. When I say that "surprise doesn't last very long" I'm talking about surprise as a behavior and expression, NOT as a feeling. The reason surprise is a VERY reliable universal expression (expressed the same way across cultures) is because we know exactly what the body and mind are doing. When something surprises us, our brain instantly needs to assess to figure out what to do, as a result, everything opens up, to get as much information as possible, But that, behaviorally, doesn't last when we're not in a social situation. Usually, everything opens up, then as we figure out what's happening, the expression shifts. Now you may go on to FEEL surprised, or shocked, or processing, but even as you're feeling that way the eyes and mouth don't typically stay open for long. Surprise is different from say sadness or joy in that regard, if something is making you happy, you can hold the smile, and continue to interact but with surprise it's very very rare to see someone walk around and continue to interact with the mouth hanging open and the eyes wide open. As a mentalist, who's literal job it is to create surprise, I might see someone react to a trick with held surprise but, again, this is more about them trying to communicate how mind blown they are than actually subconsciously emoting with surprise, and even then, it's very rare to see it held for long.
ok thanks for coming to my Ted Talk on surprise, moving on, I have been REALLY thinking about something for the last 3 days and I want to share it with you all and see what you think. Let's try to stay on topic without getting too polarized here but I realize there are some controversial subjects in this thought.
As an analyst I have several techniques for keeping my biases in check as much as I can, I often challenge my conclusions and assume I'm wrong to see what new information I will gather from that angle. One of the ways I do this is to pretend like the person I'm analyzing is someone else, this really helps me see if emotions or feelings are affecting my analysis. As such, I have asked myself for days now, If Amber Heard or Meghan Markle or Jada Pinkett Smith had done EXACTLY what Taylor Swift did, in the exact same way, what would the public opinion be? And I honestly think that if it was someone like those 3 individuals, they would get ripped to shreds with very very little support or defense. That's why I kept saying in the video that justifications don't erase the behavior, I think that the love a lot of people have for Taylor Swift colors this event in a certain tint but if it was someone they didn't like, the same behavior would be seen as something entirely different. I feel like Taylor Swift fans should REALLY reflect on the following, if Taylor Swift was presenting an award to someone they don't like (Meghan, Jada, etc) and that person behaved exactly the same way that Taylor did, would they make excuses for them as well? If so, great. If not, that's the very definition of bias. I think if the key players in this scenario were different, the public discourse would also be different; what do you guys think?
Beautifully said. It’s funny how when you said surprise isn’t held I thought about Sheinelle Jones in the clip you often play in your Intro on the today show with her mouth hanging open when you performed for her. But you’re right this is her trying to communicate how mind blown she is. Love that.
And yes! Totally agree with your second point. If this was Meghan Markle she would be getting destroyed. No excuses.
Thanks for the clarification; it’s really helpful. And I agree that there would be a much bigger (justifiable?) blowback if, say, Amber did this to Meryl or something like that, because Amber is nearly universally disliked, while Tay-Tay is nearly universally beloved. I won’t make excuses for Taylor. She should know better as a 34 yo international celebrity. Or, at the bare minimum, have people who tell her how to behave (which they likely did after the fact). Thanks for another fascinating, objective analysis of a timely topic that has a lot of people picking sides and throwing unnecessary shade. 🥰
Ooo great tip for analysis, I immediately felt differently when I imagined it was jada. Really made me see how my perception of Taylor’s character from previous information was colouring how I analysed her in this context! Thank you 🙏 I will try keep that in mind in my personal life also xx
@@conyates8959 yeah same 😂. I picture Meghan and I was like “aw helllll no!!!! That’s so rude…… oh I see what Spidey did there! I like it”
@@thomasrios3913 lol always a pleasure
Miley cyrus was great when she expressed gratitude for being handed an award by Mariah
Yes she was
Miley's album was better too!!!!!
🎯
Yeah, it's nice to see one singer acknowledging another. Taylor isn't a singer. She is a monster that her rich father created. Her entire career was purchased for her.
It was a clear snub, and Celine Dion did not deserve it. Celine took it gracefully, like a lady. Taylor needs to apologise.
I agree. An apology should take care of all this. It was unintentional... Over excitement could be responsible.
She definitely needs to apologize. She hugged other people and even thanked them. Everyone knows Celine has been sick. She made an effort to be there. Taylor would be nothing if these kids didn’t like her so much
@@veronicaramos2603Maybe respecting as Celine has a health condition.....even a hug can hurt.
I am just glad to see Celine looking so well!
Taylor Swift should have acknowledged Celine Dion on stage. Celine has been through so much and is a true beautiful woman inside and out.
She did. When Celine first came out and after she received the award. It was Taylor’s moment, not Celine’s
She acknowledged and hugged everyone else on stage except the obe who handed her the award. Total lack of judgement. I like Taylor and I love Celine. Theres no way Celine would hand me an award and me not say a thing to her.
Especially when Celine's facing health challenges. My heart would leap out to her in gratitude and compassion.
It is not that she didn’t hug her. She didn’t even look at Celine. People with zero etiquette do better
I love all the people who come watch a video of one of the most objective people on RUclips, who actively encourages his viewers to look at things objectively and as isolated incidents
And then immediately head to the comments and post extremely opinionated things about how they hate certain people as if those are fact
I don't believe people are hating on her. They are disappointed with how she ignored Celine Dion. It may not have been intentional. It was wrong. It's okay to admit when we messed up, blew an opportunity, screwed up. It's called growth. She probably feels horrible about it.
@@michellelucas7985 Your reply didn't tag me but from the wording I think you're talking to me?
My problem isn't with people being disappointed. My problem isn't even with people expressing their disappointment. I mean take this very comment - "It is not that she didn't hug her. She didn't even look at Celine" both of those are objectively true sentences. I believe they are totally warranted. "People with zero etiquette do better" could totally be replaced with "I hope in the future she remembers to be kind to everyone around her, even when she has a lot else on her mind" without losing any of the central meaning, am I right? On the other hand, it also doesn't polarize or shame people. I'm all for providing feedback and criticism because that IS how we grow. It's when that turns from helpful feedback to a personal attack that the person usually turtles down or thinks "if I'm already a bad person/not going to please this person ever, I'm not sure why I would even try". I don't think Taylor Swift is going to see any of these comments and I think she has a thick enough skin that she wouldn't let it get to her. But I think it's always good to train people to do it in all circumstances
In that same vein, my reply wasn't exactly a shining example of a perfect comment either. I get irritated easily and am still working on not letting that influence my word choice. But thanks for keeping yours respectful
@@samstromberg5593 Totally agree. We learn from our mistakes. Don't use it as a reason to bully someone.
@samstromberg5593 it's weird that you're copying & pasting this comment all over this video lol. Taylor won't notice you soz.
Stop making excuses for Taylor’s bad behavior. She didn’t acknowledge Celine because Celine intimidates her. I don’t care how many awards Taylor wins, she will never be half the entertainer or woman Celine is.
Agreed.
Someone interrupted her and they have to keep it moving .....to fit in all the commercials. Think she was in shock about the award.
@@jabberwocky8113 not an excuse for Taylor’s snubb.
@@CeliaBordeaux Cry harder. Out with the old in with the new.
It’s disrespectful period.
If anyone is handing you anything, u acknowledge & say thank u.
Yes of course !!!
Definitely.
She should apologize... properly too.
Celine is so elegant.
Agreed.
I miss her, she did some singing back stage, she sounded good. Even if she can’t tour I would love new music.
Her voice blows all these young bucks' voices out of the water. Sorry, not sorry.
I don't think that is really Celine.
C'était émouvant de la revoir! Elle était resplendissante et elle a présent ce prix comme une reine!
I really wish Taylor would publicly address the snub as well- acknowledge it & apologize, simply because Celine Dion is a legend.
Too late. Any response would be sickening and fake. That moment in time can never be excused, nor erased.
Taylor snubbed Celine 3 times... first when she took the award and didn't look at her. Second time when she looked behind her to see who she missed and she saw Celine again and said nothing. and Now a 3rd time by not even commenting about it after the fact when she knows everyone is talking about it!
Taylor swift did nothing wrong! She owes none of the haters whining anything at all! She hung with Celine Dion backstage. Haters gonna hate no matter what and are owed nothing
@@MoonDragon1 This kind of defensive mode is what infantilize Taylor with her echo chamber bubble thinking she can't do no wrong. It's unhealthy. No wonder she's never grow up as a person, other than when Joe was there, and always have that shady high school mean girl personality.
@@Lunearien no morons want to complain about anything t and everything. Maga right now are full on attack mode. Taylor and Celine hung out. They are the only 2 that matter. She owes haters nothing period!
I mean,.. she didnt need to hug her or jump on her or anything... but an acknowledgement, a smile, a thank you, something, she could have offered, as opposed to completely ignoring her existence. She treated her like she was a piece of furniture holding her award...
I’m a huge fan of Taylor’s, but that was so disrespectful. Taylor, this is CELINE DION. Show some respect Miss Ma’am.
JZ is not a mental giant; I would like to buy him for what he's worth and sell him for what he thinks he's worth.
Exactly my thoughts.
@@susiegoodin8139…😮…uuummmmmmmm?
Jealous
She didn’t even acknowledge Celine a legend she wasn’t caught up in the moment this woman paved the way for her and other young women
Go Celine! Celine deserved at the least a Nod of respect.
Wow i didnt realize taylor snubbed her a second time when she was thanking and acknowledging everyone on stage, except Celine. Wow.
Neither did I.
Looked right at her too.
So gross!
IDK, seems like that would’ve been a weird moment to thank Celine for handing her the award. Yes, she should’ve earlier imo, but that was a completely different moment. Celine didn’t have anything to do with the album and that’s who Taylor was thanking on stage. Anyway, it’s crazy that we expect certain people to behave perfectly in every single moment, and trash them when they make a very human mistake. Why is it so impossible to give people the benefit of the doubt? That’s why I always appreciate Spidey, he’s great at pointing out how there’s more than one way to look at anything.
So cold
Selfish and entitled behavior. How many times you have seen other people acknowledging how honored they have been to receive their award from a legend but Taylor is much too great to be part of them.
@mb-cee140 She could've very easily, at that moment, included that this award was also handed to her by a legend like Céline which makes the moment even better. Anything to acknowledge Céline. Instead, she just snubs her totally a second time after locking eyes on her. It was rude, and seemed very deliberate.
Even if Taylor was overwhelmed by her 4th Grammy win, she seemed able to acknowledge everyone else on the stage. She even looked directly back at Celine and still didn't acknowledge Celine. So it did look very much like a deliberate effort on Taylor5part not to a knowledge Celine.
I wonder why. It seems like she dislikes Celine and did not want to give her one second of eye contact.
Indeed it looks deliberate. How can she didn’t even said thanks when is something that everyone does when someone handles you something.
Exactly, well noted
She was thanking her friends and the people that helped with the album. Did Celine help with her album? Is Celine her good friend? I get that it can be seen as disrespectful, but the truth is probably... she just didn't think about it, she was caught up in the moment. It happens, these holy celebs everyone worships are still just human...
I have an issue believing Taylor was THAT surprised. She DID snub Celine. She snubbed a LEGEND
This is the comment that I was looking for. She overly did it. That was so unprofessional on stage. You always say thank you to the presenter & especially an icon like Celine Dion. She did not give her no eye contact & Celine congratulated her & still didn't say anything. No one wanted to be on stage, so that's why they I feel like they were so far apart as well.
@@nmccon2010Taylor was probably still busy neons overwhelmed by winning. You gotta leave room for mistakes man. Taylor’s allowed to mess up
I agree. Taylor was also very controlling. She embarrassed people by pulling them on to the stage.
I agree.., she couldn’t have been THAT surprised!!! It seemed a little over reacted to me!!?? And I’ve never seen anyone receive their award and completely ignore the presenter.. very rude. You can make all the excuses, but sadly they don’t make up for poor behavior. Also agree that she is a master at “acting the part” whatever that part may be needed!!
Shes a mean witch 😂
You know when sometimes you'll have sudden flashes in your mind of specific moments in your life and then you cringe and think "why did I do that?" or "i was so stupid to act like that", I think this will be one of those moments for Taylor Swift.
Love your analysis, Spidey, as always! ❤
Yes! I thought the same thing … we all have gotten so involved that we missed something or acted crazy
It seems like if this were one of those moments (and not a glimpse of true character traits being revealed) that there would have been a statement from Taylor after the fact.
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You think she’ll feel that way about all the self-promotion during her first award acceptance speech? 😆 The woman is brilliant and with all the attention these days, self-aware and self-absorbed. It is what it is…all the way to the bank…am I envious? You bet. 🤑
I think she looks down on Celine Dion as a has been. She is 35 now. She should know how to act
🗣️’Justifying why something is happening, doesn’t erase the behavior.’ Love how he says things so precisely! I’m incorporating this phrase immediately!
Yes but if you have them tons of attenuating circumstances it makes it look less bad.
It is rude not to thank someone who hands you something. Anything. It was rude.
Not only was it rude she acted like Celine wasn't even there, no acknowledgement at all.. as if she could ever come close to the skills Celine has
Facts!!! 💯💯💯
@nisa3695 Not even so much as eye contact. Very rude.
What could you expect from a forty year old with a 13 year old psych.
AND, don’t forget very ridiculous and fake!🙄
I wanted to jump on that podium and give Celine little hug🥹❤️🫂
As a person with SPS, touch is a trigger. Hyperreflexia and oversensitive nervous system are a real problem. Also, there is an exaggerated statue response which is likely why she was tracking Taylor's movement. The best way you can show support to someone with SPS is to not touch them. Second best, don't create an emotional environment.
@@tinamalik362 I just said it, when I saw how she was treated by Taylor..of course I would respect her space, but I think eye contact won’t hurt anybody or saying the name :) also for Celine it had to be emotional no matter what, cus she was “officially” seen after such a long time ❤️🩹 and she touched her after that for photo so…
@@xsara31ii I am sorry if I have a negative impression. Yes, I can be touched (so long as I'm not in crisis) but need to be prepared and do much better in smaller settings. That photo shoot wasn't live streaming. We have no idea how long it'll took to get those few images nor weather or not she had less than dignified moments following the touch. She was able to sit which definitely helps. I also have a hunch (since she was able to be there) that she had recently had treatment. It's usually much more controlled following treatments. I, too, had my heart go out to her for lack of the slightest acknowledgement, but I see it happen in my own life a lot. I've asked my closest friends why and they said they are more comfortable with me moving to touch them or join in conversations because they are scared to trigger spasms. I in no way meant offense, just hoping to raise awareness for not only those with SPS, but with many neurological disorders. I also was wondering if any of this applied to this situation at all. That would require knowing what Taylor knew about SPS prior to this evening.
I thought both Taylor and J were rude 😂, but your unbiased view is always appreciated!! Thank you Spidey!!
Totally 👍🏻 Celine is a legend I would bow for that women!
As Spidey said...... We need to know Jay z and Taylor in order for us to know if they are rude or not. We witnessed rude behaviors but that doesn't make the person rude unless they had the intention to go along with it.
Celine is so classy!
I love u Spidey! ❤
Both have something in common : they are from the province of Quebec (Canada) and their first language is French. I'm very proud of my people 😊
Celine is politely tolerating Taylor's hugs, too little, too late
Celine Dion is a legend and the fact that Taylor didn't acknowledge that is rude in my opinion. She didn't even acknowledge her presence!! That was not cool.
Yes! How dare her! That was just plain mean! Not thinking?? Right she does not think much does she?
She did acknowledge as was seen in a different angle video
She's a stupid little girl
I learned from your video today the difference between ‘disagreement’ and ‘agreement with a justification’. So important. Thank you.
I liked how you objectively looked at the Taylor Swift behavior because I couldn’t help compare it to how Miley acknowledged and gushed over Miriah Carey 😊
Miley gushed over who?
@@Ms.Delphine1204she wrote it....read it again.
@@Ms.Delphine1204you know who they meant lol
@@Ms.Delphine1204we all got the point. It’s weird to focus on a one letter typo.
I noticed that too. Icky.
In this polarised world, we need more people who take time and thought to see things objectively. Thank you ❤
How can anyone not even acknowledge the person handing you something in any way? No excuses.
and no analysis needed...
A SIMPLE Thank you would have worked. Taylor looked rude. That’s very safe to say!
Celine backed out of there like that meme where Homer Simpson backs into a bush and disappears
Yoooooooo😂😂😂fr
Lololol, literally my fav Homer meme
Regardless of the reason, it was rude to ignore Celine Dion.
It was rude to acknowledge d one who handed her award...very rude!
She shocks she is a grammy why she didnot acknowlege Celine Dion sorry
Spidey, my analysis of the Taylor Swift incident is that she was not genuinely surprised to win the award. She was expecting it - and why wouldn't she? She's won it 3 times before, and her popularity and star power is at an all time high. It was more likely to be her than anyone else. So, she's not really surprised, but she decided, perhaps in advance, that she was going to do a whole "I'm so surprised" performance piece. As you say, it's hard to maintain surprise for a long time, yet she managed to hold a slack-jawed OMG facial expression for a solid couple of minutes - all for something she had experienced many times before. It's feigned surprise, no question about it. It looked very contrived to me - like she already knew how she wanted it to play out - including taking Lana up onto the stage with her. The fact that Lana resisted was actually annoying to her because it wasn't what she had planned for. That's why she was so determined to make it happen. I think the reason she didn't acknowledge Celine is because she was immersed in her own performance piece and she didn't have enough cognitive bandwidth left to factor in Celine. It wasn't a natural looking celebration and it did look very poor in terms of the way she took the award without making eye-contact. I agree that the photo with Celine later looks very contrived and not at all warm. It was pure PR damage control. So overall, Taylor won her award, but she gets an F for how her acceptance routine played out.
I think the same exact thing. She’s no Meryl Streep and she was too busy putting on a performance and acting a fool to be gracious and polite to someone who had to cancel her own tour because of a painful scary health condition. It was a huge night for Celine to drag her stiff self from Canada to the Grammys and must have been nerve wracking to be on stage like that when you know you aren’t at your best. It’s just awful.
Exactly what I thought 💯
I said the same exact thing. And immediately I thought how she just took the award and not acknowledge Celine Dion.
I didn’t watch the Grammys but what I saw on these clips and general knowledge tells me this.. Taylor absolutely 💯% intentionally ignored Celine… either because she truly thinks she trumps the legend or because deep down she’s intimidated by her bc knows even though she’s won all these awards her voice could never reach octaves that Celine is capable of. Sooo yes I think Taylor was expecting the award,and I also believed the ignorance was intentional,there were just too many instances where she should have obviously said something to her but just would not… and the biggest snob of the year award goes toooo!!!! You guessed it miss American dream 😯Taylor Swift!!!😂had to get that eye brow flashin emoji in there🤣😂🤣😂
The award was not expected at all. Nobody thought she would win that and Taylor herself only made that Album to prepare for the tour. Everybody was shocked
I remember when Prince presented Halle Berry with an award and she thanked him for being presented an award by a Musical legend!!!
Taylor’s history is to be aware and very complimentary of others in public. This wasn’t her being overwhelmed. She knows how to behave properly.
That photo with Celine was awful. Celine is clearly uncomfortable and it didn’t fix what happened on stage. It’s not hard to look at her and say thank you. She treated her like … nothing.
Agree
@@dogfostermom2018
Exactly!!
It hurts to watch it.
Especially given it was a big moment for Celine too… someone shouldn’t even have to be a music legend to get a thank you for coming out tonight and being there to do this when everyone knows they’re going through struggles!
I can remember when Adele bowed to Celine upon being given her Grammy. Adele seems genuine, TS not.
I'm a fan of TS but not to the point of blindness. She is what, 34 years old and has all the benefit of feedback and training available to her but she has the body language of a much less mature person (could be a result of her innate personality, without going into any analysis about that) who is often not aware of what her body is conveying (the neck hugs, hunched shoulders, the sense of acting that comes through some of her public moments). I feel like it's time for her to raise her own bar of self respect and self esteem so that she can grow into a phase of maturity (my opinion). She is usually so aware of bringing others into her world that I'm baffled about the lack of on stage acknowledgement of CD - at least 2 opportunities missed and then an extra one for not acknowledging the miss within a day of it all is a 3rd. I'm another dissapointed "fan".
I very much agree. I dont know anything about her. I cant even name one of her songs. But my initial assessment was immaturity.
Thank you for not being a blind follower. It’s good to call her out when something she does is not acceptable. This will help her mature. I am so tired of TS fans defending her like she can do no wrong like her reaction to Jokoy at the academy awards. 2 occassions where I was really disappointed in her. I also like her songs. My nieces love her, but I will call her out when needed.
@@IAmMaruG7 My thoughts precisely
As we watched Celine Dion place the award in Swifts hands we saw a world class performer, a legend who is naturally gracious and classy and we saw someone who is not.
Great job dissecting the 2 Grammy winners & their reactions. Very informative & so respectful! Love that! ❤
It’s extremely hard for me to believe that Taylor was so surprised I mean come on I wasn’t surprised.
Well according to Spidey (as long as I understood this right) nobody has EVER done this before in the history of the music industry
I'd be pretty surprised
Exactly "omg MEEEE???? you're JOOOKINNNGGGG omg craaaaazy, like I'm famous? Really? You guyyyyys omg!" So fake and gross. She acts like a teenager and it's so cringe for an adult constantly in the spot light.
Coming from a Taylor fan midnights is not her best work to me and she made history so I do believe she is surprised.
are you kidding? i've been a swiftie for over 15 years and i was convinced someone else would win because who wins AOTY 4 times????? i was so shocked i couldnt comprehend it. it was waaaay more shocking than the album announcement.
Not like Swift is unaccustomed to playing things up/PERFORMING…..
Js.
It's not like it's her first award. very rude.
My thoughts exactly! 👏🙌👍
@@tamho100 it made me feel like she thinks that she is better than Celine while she is 20 years behind her...
@@savagequeen3798 she can’t even begin to compare her talent with Celine! What a snob! 😡
@@tamho100 i mean.... i really don't like her but i must give her credit for being a talented artist. she is an amazing performer,decend voice,she writes songs,can play some instruments(even tho i may be wrong about that😂,i am not sure).... but she really doesn't have a legend status. they just come from different times. in celine's time it was way harder to become somebody. she has alot of class,a real lady.
@@savagequeen3798 Taylor can't sing.
Beyonce should not have won so many Grammy awards to begin with. It is sort of comical that she has earned 32 Grammy awards, when artists like Whitney, Mariah and Celine have 17 Grammys combined.
YES!!!!!!
It's a popularity contest, not an achievement contest.
@@sincerely-b This reinforces what I said as Whitney, Mariah and Celine have all been more popular than Beyonce in their respective primes.
@@YTLNC Exactly. You were spot on.
Totally agree!!! Whitney houston, celine dion, madonna, mariah carey to name a few!!! This women have timeless hits and beyonce holds the title of having the most number of grammys…!!!??? i think its another way around, instead of him questioning why beyonce have not won an album of the year despite winning a lot of grammys, he shouldve question why she had won so much instead.
Another great analysis, Spidey! There’s much to say about the behavior & language of both Taylor Swift & Jay-Z…but what I kept noticing out of the corner of my eye was how classy Blue Ivy was during Jay-Z’s speech. She is only 12 years old, yet gave away nothing with her facial expressions during her dad’s speech (at least in the clips you showed). I’m sure she has strong opinions, given who her parents are. Yet she just stood by with a lovely polite smile on her face. What a classy young lady. Very impressive.
Yes, she is well educated
Over time, I’ve gotten the impression that Taylor may be performative and not as authentic as she may portray. When I see her singing to Celine’s stage entrance as if she’s an admirer and then dismiss Celine while receiving her award, unfortunately, it didn’t help change my impression.
Absolutely true
Taylor Swift is not a good person, she act so egotistic
Taylor operates a facade. She is not empathetic. She’s a greater narcissist who knows how to act like she’s an empathetic person. This was a brief moment of her facade slipping, we saw what she’s actually like. To learn more I recommend HG Tudor’s analysis 👌
I hate to say this, but I agree with all.
I agree with it all too and Taylor only jumps up acting to praise others but it is only to draw the cameras to HER!!
absolutely agree Taylor Swift was dismissive of an icon who went out of her way, despite her infirmity to present the award, and that the backstage photo op was damage control; Céline Dion‘s expression in that photo appears to me to acknowledge lack of sincerity behind the photo, as though she was thinking, “ this is BS”
Absolutely! Hmmm I wonder if they will let her win next year.😂 I think she's just a spoiled brat that knows exactly how to undercover try to hurt people. She'll probably write a song about it.
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And then immediately head to the comments and post extremely opinionated things about how they hate certain people as if those are fact@@goftwins7678
@michaelharig6506 The thing is that Celine is such a sincere person, that she can't hide her feelings behind the "smile"!
Class will always out, Celine is sheer class, and TS, a two bit wonder. She will never be the star, Celine is. Unfortunately, TS believes her own publicity. Shame.
No matter what, Taylor should have been mature enough to say thanks to Celine.
If I lived in Canada, I would have come to your show Spidey, you are so cool!
Tell beyonce to write an entire album by herself like Taylor did at the age of 19 to get the award SHE DESPERATELY NEEDs in her life..... funny how jay z speaks FOR HER, even though she has more grammys than mariah and celine combined.... i guess 32 GRAMMYS still ain't enough, they want EVERYTHING
Taylor Swift is a PR/Marketing machine. Nothing she does is truly authentic, she is a performer and she does it well... most of the time. As a Quebecer and Celine fan, I was not impressed by this lack of acknowledgment from TS towards our national icon.
What I said. It's tough to keep up with it 100%.
International Icon.
@@stephanies3246 100% :)
She was rude, rude , rude to Celine. She didn’t even look at her or give thanks. It was like she was a lowly servant.
Taylor grabbed the trophy like you take a cup out of a cupboard. Then came back to earth to present her new record. Could have done better!
I appreciate the distinction between analysis vs. conclusion! Labeling behavior rather than people as “problematic” leaves a lot more room for people to improve their behavior.
Celine or anyone else deserves a thank you even when a waiter gives you your meal or a barista who hands you your coffee deserves a thank!!
Taylor is in another cloud she has no idea about our world anymore
She lives in another world called Taylor
Someone mentioned this is Taylor's world and we just live in it
I wonder how she actually treats people without cameras around
Well said...
Yup, Taylor has gotten too big for her britches 😖😣
What bothered me about what Taylor did is exactly what bothered you - The lack of acknowledgment of not just Celine Dion handing her the award but that an actual human was standing there, handing her this award -- forget it was even Celine! I remember once seeing a celebrity accept an award and go up and get it from a paid model for the award show, I can’t remember who it was but I was amazed that they looked at the unknown paid model in the eye and thanked them for handing them their award - I was a teenager when I saw this and it really stood out to me. I think Taylor Swift is an incredibly talented person - Obviously, award after award, album after album and now worth over a billion dollars - She is living the dream accomplishing everything a human being would want to accomplish in life really……. She could use a piece of humble pie, in my opinion. She was a dink to Celine period. Is she a bad person? I wouldn’t go that far but she was a dink and I don’t think there is any way around that. The photo after doesn’t make up for that moment - That could have been her PR team making it happen. I don’t get this obsession culture as “fans” were we love someone’s music and art, and because of this we stand by everything they say and do and fight online with others to honor them etc - I like a lot of her music but in the same breath I can say she looked like an asshole on the Grammys. I think if you can act like that on national TV to someone like Celine Dion, as you are honored having one of the biggest moments in music - Then how are you with people behind the scenes on a regular day with regular folks?
Agree she knew what she was doing I like TS but I love CD it was appalling to see Ms Celine treated so disrespectful
If she had done that publicly and intentionally to Celine just imagine how she behave toward the staff and regular people that are in her mind beneath her, especially when cameras aren't there. Yes, we aren't perfect and sometimes we aren't in good mood but this incident happened when she was happy and extatic.
Bad manners but sheesh, lighten up!
Exactly
Well done Spidey - I follow the beahviour panel because of your interview with Chase Hughes. I like your videos more becuase you teach more - you expand and show examples and demomsrate with your own face etc There are no time extending 'replays'. you just provide a valuable, content. I liked your commnet about how we, as your audience should respond in terms of respect, mananers, politeness - yes disagree but not denegrate, I really liked how you made this statement. Well done Spidey
Excellent podcast Spidey. You are spot on as usual!!!❤
Whether it was Celine or not, a simple thank you works. The disrespect for Celine was real, she knows Celine, and the photo was just damage control. The suprise was fake, I dont have to be a behavioral arts expert to come to this analysis. To not acknowledge, say hello, anything? Taylor is who she has always been. LOL
I'm sorry, but TS did NOT pay Celine any attention. How completely disrespectful. Indicative of the real person beneath the image.
@@ShaneyBrightreally? Well I hope you’ve never been less than perfect, lest you be judged on any slip ups.
Taylor is known for being gracious towards others, this was clearly a brain fart, probably tunnel vision, and she would have been mortified about it.
So exaggerated and fake. Ugh
@@katharineshade9550 I have to disagree with you on this. Taylor acknowledged EVERYONE on the stage, but had a 'brain fart' and missed thanking the presenter of the actual award, Celine freakin' Dion?? It was a clear snub and showed zero class. If it had been Taylor's first win, or even maybe her second, of all of her awards, then you could chalk it up to nerves. Peace
I love all the people who come watch a video of one of the most objective people on RUclips, who actively encourages his viewers to look at things objectively and as isolated incidents
And then immediately head to the comments and post extremely opinionated things about how they hate certain people as if those are fact
When she looked around to thank everyone it reminded me of the scene in the beginning of Ocean’s 12 when the brother thanked like 20 ppl at the dining table but said “and to everyone else…” instead of saying the only person left, his brother’s name 😂
Looollll
When I first saw the picture of Taylor and Celine and thought it was a photo op by Taylor. I’m no body language expert but Celine was leaning away from Taylor in her embrace.
Because she knew it could be painful. I try to not allow hugs for this reason.
@@75downs I’m not understanding which person you are talking about. If you are talking about Celine, pulling away would be more painful the letting it happen. If you are defending Taylor, she wasn’t concerned because she then had several photos of her engulfing Celine and hanging on her.
@@memeyers1962 Celine has an auto immune
@@75downs I am aware of that. If you read the original post I was saying the Celine didn’t seem to want to be in Taylor’s embrace, that it was a photo op for Taylor.
@@memeyers1962 I do have to agree.
I have to say, as someone who notices a lot of nuances in behavior but rarely has the ability to read or understand the meaning behind it, these videos are so fascinating and helpful. I overthink social interactions so much because it's hard for me to tell why someone is acting that way, even if I notice an eyebrow flash or head tilt or chin jut, etc. Keep doing what you're doing, this is great stuff
If you are an intelligent person, no matter how overwhelming the moment is, you still have grace and respect for other people around you.
She did for everyone else but, Celine Dion Not once but, twice. It was all an act on Taylor Swift part. So disrespectful in so many ways. Just wow 😮! Taylor Swift knew exactly what she was doing. It was wrong 😑
This was so planned the award and all 💩
Exactly
Total snub, I’m speechless. CD deserved respect and was treated like a no-name host.
Word is everyone was warned not to touch Celine (if they won). I would have liked a smile and a thank you but there was a lot going on. That direct smile Celine gave before announcing the winner could have been an eye to eye with Taylor.
I love all the people who come watch a video of one of the most objective people on RUclips, who actively encourages his viewers to look at things objectively and as isolated incidents
And then immediately head to the comments and post extremely opinionated things about how they hate certain people as if those are fact
She might as well have pushed her aside and said, " move over, old lady, you've had your time to shine. It's my turn now. "
@samstromberg5593 you sound like a broken record. Lol
Whether you're a celebrity or not, or a no-name as you described, everyone deserves to be treated with equal respect.
I thought you would be honest about her intentionally ignoring Celine. She overlooked her. She ignored her, she slighted her, the way someone does a menial inferior peon. Or some one who has guilt for committing a wrong and is embarrassed to look them in the eye. Or her superiority/inferiority complex for achieving such a high status with a small fraction of the talent in Celine Dion's pinky.
I love your videos. I feel like I’m learning as opposed to watching pure criticisms. This is my new favorite channel!
Congratulations on 1 MILLION subscribers!! What an accomplishment!! I’ve learned so much from you!! Thank you
At first I felt like I wanted to scoop up Celine just in case she was embarrassed, but then realized quickly it wasn’t Celine who should be embarrassed… Respect your elders is one of the earliest and easiest rules most of us are taught when we were little. Courtesy is part of respect - PLEASE & THANK YOU. Maybe it’s just me? If it was me, I would have made Swift give me a big hug before handing over the award!
Brilliant! I really appreciate your views and the way you break down body language.
You are extremely good in your job, you always make an excellent analysis.
You make a great point that being awarded for specific songs do not equal overall album
Celine Dion, one of the greatest voices of our times, was disrespected. Plain and simple. No amount of PR damage control can gloss over Taylor's rudeness. 🎼🎶 I see your true colours shining through 🎶
I love all the people who come watch a video of one of the most objective people on RUclips, who actively encourages his viewers to look at things objectively and as isolated incidents
And then immediately head to the comments and post extremely opinionated things about how they hate certain people as if those are fact
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@@samstromberg5593 Why are you copy and pasted this same reply to every comment? 😂😂
@@Lunearien Not every comment. Not even close. Just the extremely opinionated things about how they hate certain people as if those are fact
I do it to all of those that I could find because I wish the world was a brighter place. And I choose to do something about it
I do too now. Taylor was beyond rude to icon Celion.
She is good at projecting herself in a certain way, but it's a hard act to keep up 100% of the time. A telling moment.
Taylor is showing her true colors finally
Naturally she should have acknowledged Celine..
I agree it will take away from Beyonce's moment if she ever wins album of the year.
She looked right at Clion at the thank yous and LOOKED AWAY😮
Because she did not care
I am very impressed by your honest comments, trying to look at both sides, impartial, and making a lot of sense.
As someone who is disabled and at one time they questioned whether i had Stiff Person Syndrome, DON'T HANG ON DISABLED PEOPLE! They have used every amount of energy to get to the function.
That was performative and harmed her at the same time.
I thought the way Celine gave her the award (using both hands) made it difficult for Taylor to hug her. As a disabled person too, I hold myself back with that same kind of body language when I don't want to be manhandled by an overenthusiastic person! Celine is a mature, professional woman and I suspect she understood this was Taylor's moment, and hope she wasn't offended by any perceived slight.
That is precisely why Taylor didn’t think that she couldn’t hug Celine due to any physical disability. If Taylor thought that Celine could possibly be so fragile, she wouldn’t then be “hanging” on her during the “damage control” photo!
@@idkwhodos2840 She was kind of manhandling her in that backstage photo though, which was performative and harmful, I think is the point
I thought the same exact thing, taylor is so grabby and touchy on people anyway, like trying to physically prove she's soooo close to eevveryone. Then this pic came out and I was shocked Celine was able to do more than grimace. I have a spinal autoimmune disease and I'm not sure i could have forced a smile. Just goes to show how ridiculously classy and gracious Celine is. This pic actually made me respect Celine even more, not Taylor. Knowing how tone deaf it is with Celine's disease it is the worst PR stunt and tells me Taylor is far more oblivious of everything Celine than I ever would have expected, her being an icon Taylor should be looking up to and all.
@@pzh3334absolutely agree! This entire thing gave me such bad vibes and all the Swifties jumping to her defense in attack mode is giving major “Emporers new clothes” vibes.
I hated how Celine was just standing there waiting. Taylor left a bitter taste in my mouth.
Very good breakdown and thank you for explaining the difference between analysis and conclusion
I felt like B was standing that way because She knew what he was going to say. This whole thing has a vibe of pillow talk between husband and wife and got spilled on national tv....
agree with you 100 ercent
Just like their dramatic exit😂
Jay Z wanted to show off to his wife, that he can be as much a bully as Kanye 😁
He’s on stage with his daughter, not his wife.
@@Mak.a.Roni8-4 everybody knows that .. blue is OBVIOUSLY NOT Beyonce and will never be mistake for her🥴 She looks like her Dad
I think Blue Ivy felt very embarrassed to be on stage listening to Jay-Z's speech
Blue seems like a shy kid to me. She always seems a little nervous on stage, even when she’s dancing with her Mom. Blue doesn’t seem to enjoy the stoplight. I don’t blame her. Especially, since so many ppl have been hypercritical of her since birth.
How I wish I'd meet you. I felt that when you announced your tour and said "come upbto the stage and say hi".....I thought I'd grab that opportunity with all limbs😊 but I'm so far away in South Africa. I love your work, learn a lot from it.
Wonderful points as always!
Taylor was all about Taylor
As ALWAYS!! 😉😉
Yep, as all ways!
She took that award like she picked it up off of the table.
Edit: After reading some of the comments, I realized the snub is most likely out of jealousy. She’s a super narcissistic person, and she can’t stand the thought of someone being better than her. She knows she could never compare to Celine Dion, and her vocal range.
Hi Sir/Madame. Taylor swift is an Fully egoistic Girl. She shows to the world that she is that little teenage heartbroken girl, but inside she is an Clever wolf. She knows what she is diong. Everyone on Stage was average person, but celion dion who is grammy oscar and over 800 million dollar worth women and the biggest persona of music. People say she was in moment so she forget, but she did only with celine, for rest people she hugged, kissed then she was not in moment. It was just in the case of celine dion.
Disrespecting someone who is an Elder women who is also suffering and thus thinking or herself super big. That's bad, acts like an child. God is watching everything. Everyone time comes to an End.
@@jordviral5372I agree! What she did was deliberate! What I do find sweet is how her fans absolutely believe in her sugar sweet act.
I wish @realcandaceowens would make a video on this. Great analysis.
I thought it was a snub when I watched the show. I don’t get the Swifty hype.
Exactly
It’s like she knows Celine will always be above her and she’ll never be able to compete. She always needs to be the alpha.
I pretty much agree with your entire analysis. Awesome to work!
Hit like if you want spidey to make us an episode on PUTEN 's interview.
Thanks Spidey for this thorough thoughtful unbiased analysis. I dont have a charge on either but felt the behavior was unfortunate. It was not a very good example of gracious grateful acceptance of an award that is meant to honor professional achievement.
Enjoy your performances! Sure hope i can see one someday. Come to MAUI🥰
Haha I visited your beautiful home once before and would go back absolutely anytime. Glad you enjoyed the video ❤️ 🌸
@@TheBehavioralArts Ontario, you say? I understand a certain Mr Bowden resides there with his family. Tough crowd. :D
@@sarahmayer7026 haha a certain Mr. Bowden does! He’s of course invited to all my shows.
Super! Merci beaucoup!
At the end when you said your show was travelling to Eastern Canada, I got excited it was perhaps Nova Scotia!
Please please consider extending the trip!!
Very impressed with your analysis. Spot on!
I’m glad you addressed those two moments within the show. I felt very uncomfortable with the way Taylor dismissed Celine Dion. It was actually quite shocking to me. Aside from the fact that Celine has status and stature, it was the lack of the simple observance of courtesy to someone who is your elder and your superior. Perhaps in that moment Taylor revealed more of who she really is as a person than she intended.
@@Bluejeanskies to me Taylor is a programmed doll. She is not a natural on her public persona like Miley Cirus and Celine nor she portrays a ton of confidence she is likeable or deserving of her talent. It’s mind blown how she lived her last year selling out arenas, saw first hand how well accepted her album was and still be dead shocked to win. I just don’t see her being genuine as one would have a certain level of perception of one’s work, level of achievement and acceptance by the public. So after all she accomplished this last year to not even once have imagined, or dreamed she could have won. Mind blowing! Come on! Oh I just did this album out of pure love and passion! I am
So surprised I won! Her talent is undeniable, but her character comes out as mostly played out and calculated to a great extent… perhaps she did not come out of the little inexperienced talented good girl portray that made her famous and loved in the beginning stages of her carrier! For some time now, I see incongruence in her public persona appearances around her behaviour, her age and her talent vs level of fame. Not sure if all is just PR move that sells and keeps her relevant for longer… if it is I feel like it’s being overly used and more people are getting aware of it! Even her fans aren’t able to deny it at this point. But I am not being paid to wake her up from her little girl era nor I have experience to what sells. What I will say, consume public people and their work wisely!
Wow
Tbh Celine Dion looks exhausted in the photo. Imagine being unwell and having to "be on" for god knows how many hours.
Thank you for your crystal clear commentary. It is my deep hope that the influence and impact of your mode of addressing complicated issues could go viral around the world. And people can begin to communicate more like this. What a world that would be right?
I agree wholeheartedly with what you said. One of my favorite sayings over the past decade or so, is that so many things are nuances rather than black and white, and 2 contradictory things can be true at the same time.
It’s the nature of this amazing life
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I agree. Nobody gets anywhere with stubborn polarized thinking. Thank you so much for the time you took to comment 😊
You are spot on and yes PR did have something to do with her and that picture. That was so disrespectful of her and the picture looks so fake.
Celine’s face in that photo says it all lol
Thanks for your unbiased analysis! I always appreciate hearing your thoughts!!
She did! lol but her PR fixed that fast 😆
This was very helpful! Thanks!!
Especially when the person is popular and up in age and seek you show respect no matter how excited much moment is yours is good to share
There is nothing worst than millionaire successful accoladed people whining about not winning absolutely everything.
Very well put, couldn't agree with you more!
Shows complete entitlement.
This right here..the very 1st thing that came to my mind💯
Taylor swift was just as disgusting and rude
But you should also get rewarded for your hard work, regardless. Period! And the Grammy's play's favorites instead of doing what's right and deserved.
Dismissive, Full of herself, Lack of self-awareness, immature.
Of all people, she did it to a dying person who got out of her way to present this award. Taylor could have taken her to the mic, thank her for coming, and HONOR her!
Excellent points on these subjects. Great job.❤
Yay! So excited to come see you in person. Got our tickets for Friday. 🙌
Awesome!!! See you then 🤗