Hi Greg. Totally agree about these bows. They are amazing! I bought the longbow first, then about a year later bought the recurve limbs, and now I basically have exactly what you said...two bows depicting their characteristics. I too, highly recommend them. Thanks for the video.
And how is the bow shooting? Do you recommend the longbow version?? I am thinking about it. I have got recurve, barebow And a few compounds but now its a time for longbow.
Hi Greg. Thank you for the comparison video. My last long bow was a glass Pearson bow from the 60's. I see so many folks in Europe that love their long bows. I want to try one but I don't want to spend a lot for it on the chance that I don't like it. The Black Hunter Long Bow is the answer.
I've a Bearpaw Blackfoot longbow, one piece. check it out. an absolute pleasure to shoot. probably my favourite bow - & I've a Samick Sage & Hoyt Charger(&a Barnett wildcat C5 & Cobra xbow/xbow pistol). just something about the way a bare trad longbow shoots ;)
i got a 60lb recurve black hunter. shoots like an damn dream. switch to a Flemish twist string and add a couple of silencers. shoots so fast heaps and heaps of power. dude im hitting things at 80 damn yards all freaking day. did i mention it shoots like a dream. only down side im going through gloves because im at the range 3,4 times a week
I bought one of the BH longbows last year and love it. I don't know how you can beat this bow for the price. Amazing value. Thanks for the review. I also have a samic sage bow. The SS bow is very good but the BH is better IMHO.
Thanks for the comparison, I've been curious about what kind of difference there actually is. If only there was a local distributor, you're covered if you only want some big brand olympic recurve or compound.
The final comment on the interchangeable limbs makes me think of my favorite deer hunting rifle... A Thompson Encore with interchangeable barrels. The same idea!
Greg, my wife pointed out your why have 80 Bows when you can just one comment is something I should have followed. Gee Greg, it is because of you why I have 80x2 recurve bows filling up the basement walls and now you say that. statement???? It hurt but but wife loved it. LOL Great video. My favorite shaft is my Easton Axis, I shoot 700 spine from Bows 25 to 45 lbs with 200 FOC. Love that shaft. Take care Greg and Pearson Rules 🎯🏹🎯🏹🎯🏹 Rick Mansberger
Junxing manufactures this bow. They make very, very good products at a great price. I own their F261 and I wouldn’t trade it for ANY Hoyt. It comes in a left-handed version too!
Had black one with longbow limbs.. delaminated before I could really test it...just got red one with recurve limbs and it shoots pretty good. Red looks really nice with the contrast of the black glass on limbs...will prob get longbow limbs too and a better string
Hello, thank you from Germany for your video. Most of the clubs here prefer the Longbow For me, outdoors I like the recurv. Have a nice Time. Sorry vor my bad Englisch 👍😉
Good video Greg have one like the longbow and it is awesome. i think you can use the left hand riser with either set of limbs or the right hand riser with either set of limbs!
Good day,eh, I've been doing my research on this black hunter longbow, cuz I have 2 longbows now, both at 50# draw weight, but because of 2 surgeries to my right arm, I wanna drop down to a bow with a 40# draw weight, I tried out one recurve at 40#'s , awesome, got the accuracy back right away, so now I'm in the market for a new bow, hopefully I'll get a black hunter longbow, thx for the info , shakyjake out.
Amazing longbow. high quality and accurate with fast bamboo limbs.even cheap arrows hit the target. amazing comfortable riser/handle. absolutely no twist or torque when shooting. get a fast flight Flemish and find the sweet spot on tuning and that's it. like it better than my expensive brand name bows.compared to this, Samic sucks i used to own one.
Nice job on the comparison Greg. I am jealous of your shooting skills. I do okay with my recurve but for some reason, I can't shoot a long bow to save my life. (and that's shooting both with my right hand) thanks for all your hard work.
Thanks, nothing to be jealous of, I'm average. Long Bows are a different breed that is for sure. Mostly for me, it is about the handle. That is why this is such a great bow, that is a recurve handle.
@@3DArchery maybe that's the ticket to get a recurve bow grip. Thanks for letting me know. And, you would have to slide way down to be average. Love the dedication of your videos.
Very informative thank u much. I had just recently purchased the 50@28 so fukin fast. Just a little noisy for my part idk what to do to dampen the sound other than the whiskers. Great job thanks. How ever I do love my black hunter recurve
Greg, what was the brace height on the Longbow ? EDIT: so my Black hunter ebay edition arrived today and I took it for a spin ... not bad, not bad ... after I correct a few of the setup mistakes I made and put a nocking point in the string, it should work nicely. shoots straight like a laser ... EDIT2: lower limb delaminated after about 6-700 shots :-(
ive got 2 compound bows 1 is 2 years old and 1 is about 5 years old both in showroom condition and a excalibur crossbow micro!! ..The more i watch your videos the more i want to try a stick bow!! It takes a lot of practice to be good worth a stickbow doesnt it?? which do you recommend recurve or longbow?? If i try one i think i will get something aroung 40lbs!!
Which would you prefer for deer 🦌 hunting ! Have you ever checked out chief A.J.'s or Tony's ELITE SLING BOW that can shoot up to 200fps depending on arrow set up ? They are definitely cool and from the videos on RUclips harvesting big game they seem adequate to any traditional bow and seem like would be ideal for mobile hunting etc
I tried 3 times to get one of those bows. I bought a longbow from Mandarin Duck, tiller was way off. I bought 2 more from Amazon. One longbow and one recurve. Both were messed up. I see so many 5 star reviews on the bow and very few bad reviews. Am I just unlucky?
You ordered from Amazon, not from a established retailer. Many companies in China make clones of the bow and most have no Quality Control. And those bows are the ones you see on Amazon.
Now do a comparison video on a vehicle of the same brand vehicle with each being a different make, model, year, left/right hand driver, and manual/automatic transmission.
I would be interested to see what you think of the oak ridge Ash, they might be called Galaxy Ash or something where you are. They are a hybrid / longbow 62". Same sort of price as Black Hunter. Very Smooth, a little 'pung' but no biggy, No handshock for me, accurate as you could want and comfy grip, starts at 25ld great in 35 or 40ld for 3d, goes heavier for hunting. It's amazing how much good kit there is without breaking the bank. Thanks for your vids.
Hey Greg, Great video. I just got my Black Hunter Longbow - 30lb. draw and 28" draw length, although I'm considering using a 30" arrow so I can use the tip as an aiming point in my peripheral vision. What is your draw length and what length are your Predator arrows?
My arrows are 30", my draw length is a tad over 29". I went over to Cross X Hurricane Octagons (Stupid name) which are 32" and that extra 2" makes a difference.
@@3DArcherySo you're now shooting an arrow that's 3" longer than your draw. I was considering 2" over my draw (3 Under-string walker) as I think that will give me a sufficient target reference at the arrow tip. Perhaps I'll try 3" over my draw length - what do I know? I'm just starting with Trad. BTW, ya' still shootin' with Pootatuck Tim?
I'm interested in the Longbow version. Too bad they did not have a left-hand model so you could really put it through equal pacings including the same draw weight. But regardless it is a nice video. Thanks!
My wife used hers in Germany and Austria and i can tell you that it is a performer. She had only one day practice with it and while there she shoot better than she has in a long time. I watched that arrow on one course (120 targets) and was amazed at how flat and fast it flew. If I was a long bow guy, I would choose this bow.
Umm if the risers are identical why not use your preferred handed riser to test both recurve and long bow limbs?They are interchangeable. Very confused why you used one left and one right handed one ?!?
Would you have been able to put the longbow limbs on your riser to get a proper side by side comparison? Or are they cut different for a right or left bow?
So do you prefer the black hunter over the stealth? I bought a used cheap martin, but I will upgrade to a better lowend model if I continue loving this sport. Just curious which model you think is better all around or if yoy have to have a genre, for hunting one day?
I would not say one is "Better" than the other. I can shoot the Stealth more consistent, yet the Black Hunter is "easier" to shoot. If i had to chose, I would go with the Stealth, it just seems to "fit" me better. Cannot explain it, sorry.
Its certainly sleeker looking, my only hold back before was I'm not sure on limb replacement. I assume ilf is just easier down the road if replacement is ever needed. Plus I found this jaguar for $80 so I got excited for a slight deal
Bare Bow is a modern term used to describe a bow used in competition. Today, it refers to an Olympic bow that has the sights and stabilizers removed. Wooden takedown bows while technically also a "barebow" are not considered that.
I just bought a 60# longbow version of it, I went to 3riversarchery for my arrows and got some 31" wooden arrows with a 60-65 spine. Im a little confused on the spine part still, is 60-65 the same as 600-650? Is it a American/European thing like imperial and metric? I was advised by the longbow department that for a 60lb longbow with a 30 inch draw, that 60-65 spine would be the best. I also tipped them with 125gr zwickey eskimo 2 bladed. Do you think my arrows will shoot fine with my bow? Im just getting into archery and im getting conflicting information and I can hardly find ANY suggestions when it comes to the 60lb black hunter as everyone seems to be getting 25-40lb bows :(
Pure Gameplay Ready for this? Wood, Carbon and Aluminum all use different rating methods. There is no real correlation. The 60/65 means for bows 60 to 65 pounds. They might fly okay. For me, I seem to shoot better with a slightly weaker arrow. But that is just me.
Have a friend pinch off your arrow shaft when you are at a normal full draw with a 40-50# longbow or recurve and then see what your draw length really is. Most folks think they draw further than they actually do draw. With a compound bow, I draw 28.5 and with a longbow or recurve I draw 27".
I am finding it hard to find left handed bows. I have been waiting for a left handed Southwest Archery Ghost longbow to be back in stock. With that being said have you ever shot the southwest archery ghost longbow. If so how would you compare it to the Black Hunter long bow
Welcome to the frustrating world of left handed archery. Since we are so small in numbers, manufacturers do not make left handed bow unless they get a certain amount of pre-orders. Yeah, it sucks for us. Sorry, never shot one, or even seen one. On the positive side, never heard anything bad about them either.
Yeah that sucks... thanks for the reply. I was able to find a left handed old mountain Mesa longbow in stock but I think I may look for a takedown bow. I have to look into the pros and cons of longbow vs takedown longbow
There is no measurable difference with a take down. It is pure personal preference. Now, an ILF takedown there is. But that is due to having a higher level of adjustability.
I believe he says in the video Hitman Archery Supplies (he runs through it really fast), but I ordered mine from AliExpress where several sellers often have it listed in the $90 range.
lovely bow. I want one. knew of the recurve, but I think i'll go longbow & get recurve limbs after. one thing i'd say. lovely as it is, the bow's just a tool. it's only as good as the one shooting it ;) ever seen a ambidextrous shooter before. THAT may be an interesting experiment. i'm right eye dominant. how would I aim from that shooting leftie?
I would say yes and no. It does not matter to a point and it only matters to a point. It all comes down to how accurate or should i say consistent you want to be. As for an ambidextrous archery, you are talking to one. I have several videos of me shooting back and forth switching sides. I do not believe in the dominant eye stuff. My whole life I have been switching sides. It is just something we lefties do.
i know nothing about bows and i want to get into shooting at my local gun and archery club and watching your video i learned nothing about the differences of a Recurve vs long bow other than they look and sound different
Have you had any experience with the Galaxy Ember bows? They have interchangeable longbow & recurve limbs, for $199.99 at Lancaster Archery Supplies, I was thinking about pulling the trigger on a 45lb or 50lb model. I'm a long time Compound shooter, my hunting bow is maxed at 82lbs.
Ash Merch I have an ember that I bought at the Baltimore Bowmen Traditional Classic from LAS. It’s the same bow as the Black Hunter. It’s just got different branding. I have some pretty expensive bows and I absolutely love this thing. You will spend a little more buying it from LAS but it comes with their awesome customer service. It will be coming to ETAR with me this year for sure.
@@MichaelTravis12c27 thank you for the reply, I really like the versatility of that thing, my other choice was the Martin Panther. If I was more sure about Traditional archery I would buy the Hoyt Satori
@eric duffy I'm a compound guy, I'm coming down from 80lbs.... idk about the traditional bows, but with compound the heavy draw and higher speeds flatten my trajectory significantly... I was thinking 45-50 too give traditional a shot
Hi Greg .. Great video. Would you be able to send me a link for the arrows,please .. would like to order them. I’v got the recurve model (35” limbs) Thank you verry much :-)
@@marekbalaz3504 Carbon Express Predator II's 800 spine, full length is what I use. They are now just called "Predators", I still use the old name. I thought for whatever reason you were the person who asked about the arrow type before. Sorry for the confusion, getting old ya know.
so the quick shooter ....stunt shooter Lars Anderson.... he says you should have your rest on the same side as your string hand/draw hand. Says that's the ancient way to shoot. Combat shooting when archers had to be quick and accurate to stay alive. I know you shoot right or left handed. So.... have you ever tried that? Or messed with that any? He is quite the archer.. fast and somewhat accurate. I've seen old paintings of ancient time... when army's of men went against one another... History says that's the way they used to shoot. Any thoughts on that?
Not too sure what you call or consider "History". In Europe especially, the arrow was shot off the finger more than the thumb. Speed and accuracy was not so important in battle. They used massed archers and massed volleys. The purpose was to break up formations. Yes, I have tried it and did not like it, The sight picture was not what I was use to or for me, one that promotes accuracy. I'm not into historical archery, just not for me. More power to those who are.
Hhhm ive not seen 25lb limbs advertised for that bow, all the sites ive seen have said 30-60lbs only 🤔. Hopefully this is a new developenent 😊. Have you measured the length of these bows Greg ? They are advertised as 60" in both forms, I have just bought the long bow version and it is definitely not a 60" bow. Strung or unstrung its just about 1/4 longer than my 58" Bodnik Slick Stick 🤔, and the bodnik string fits it too. I'm intrigued as to why its called a 60" bow !. The bow itself shoots just fine but it is a bit loud, ive got string silencers on it now which have calmed it down quite a bit but ive still got some experimenting to do to get it as quiet as the Slick Stick or my Epic Hawk take down recurve.
I have seen the same bow advertised as 58" and 60" on different lisitngs (ebay, amazon, aliwhatever ...) I thought those are 2 different versions ... bummer ....
@@lubossoltes321 I think they must measure them differently, but it doesnt detract from the fact that they are superb value for money for what you get, and they are as accurate as the archer shooting them 👍.
@@davewebster6945 the problem for me is that I have a 60" recurve now but I don't like the string angle at full draw (can't get the fingers quite right) ... I was looking around for a 64" bow ... I bought the longbow black hunter on an impulse (heck it's almost free) thinking that 60" still won't be worse than what I have ... however if it is actually 58", I might have an issue ...
@@lubossoltes321 I suppose all you can do is try it and see how it feels. I used to get finger pinch with my 62" recurve and it used to mash my index finger against the arrow (mediteranean style) when using a tab and would eventually cause the side of the finger nail to grow with a split in it 😑. I started using an old leather shooting glove that someone had given me and suddenly I wasnt getting the pinch and the problem with the finger and nail 👍. I can now shoot shorter bows without a problem now using that shooting glove 😎. Dont get disheartened by the length of this bow as it really is a very good bow and it shoots very well indeed 😎.
I have not measured them. When strung, they are the same length. The long bow is 58" without a doubt. Just compared it to my 60" bow and it is 2" shorter
Those are not accurate statements. They might have been years ago. I have tested long bow V recurves for s on a decimeter and found them to to be the same decibel level. What they do have is a different tone. But they are equal in loudness. As for draw weight, Long bows like the one I tested as just as fast due to the reflex /delfex limb design.
Hi Greg. Totally agree about these bows. They are amazing! I bought the longbow first, then about a year later bought the recurve limbs, and now I basically have exactly what you said...two bows depicting their characteristics. I too, highly recommend them. Thanks for the video.
Hey where were you abole to buy the limbs seperately? I've got recurve limbs and want 40# long bow limbs :)
Thank you.
Which do you prefer?
My black hunter Longbow is in the mail and it'll be here on Monday. Can't wait to start poking holes in things in the woods. (Stumps.)
And how is the bow shooting? Do you recommend the longbow version?? I am thinking about it. I have got recurve, barebow And a few compounds but now its a time for longbow.
Hi Greg. Thank you for the comparison video. My last long bow was a glass Pearson bow from the 60's.
I see so many folks in Europe that love their long bows. I want to try one but I don't want to spend a lot for it on the chance that I don't like it.
The Black Hunter Long Bow is the answer.
I've a Bearpaw Blackfoot longbow, one piece. check it out. an absolute pleasure to shoot. probably my favourite bow - & I've a Samick Sage & Hoyt Charger(&a Barnett wildcat C5 & Cobra xbow/xbow pistol). just something about the way a bare trad longbow shoots ;)
i got a 60lb recurve black hunter.
shoots like an damn dream. switch to a Flemish twist string and add a couple of silencers.
shoots so fast heaps and heaps of power. dude im hitting things at 80 damn yards all freaking day. did i mention it shoots like a dream. only down side im going through gloves because im at the range 3,4 times a week
I bought one of the BH longbows last year and love it. I don't know how you can beat this bow for the price. Amazing value. Thanks for the review. I also have a samic sage bow. The SS bow is very good but the BH is better IMHO.
Really wanna get the longbow version as my first longbow. Gotta get my budget in order, but its at the top of my list.
Thanks for the comparison, I've been curious about what kind of difference there actually is. If only there was a local distributor,
you're covered if you only want some big brand olympic recurve or compound.
The final comment on the interchangeable limbs makes me think of my favorite deer hunting rifle... A Thompson Encore with interchangeable barrels. The same idea!
I had a encore but by the time you bought the barrel and optics you could have purchased another gun
Greg, my wife pointed out your why have 80 Bows when you can just one comment is something I should have followed.
Gee Greg, it is because of you why I have 80x2 recurve bows filling up the basement walls and now you say that. statement????
It hurt but but wife loved it. LOL
Great video. My favorite shaft is my Easton Axis, I shoot 700 spine from Bows 25 to 45 lbs with 200 FOC. Love that shaft.
Take care Greg and Pearson Rules
🎯🏹🎯🏹🎯🏹
Rick Mansberger
Excellent video by the way. I just ordered this bow the other day from Lancaster archery but through them it’s called the Galaxy Ember.
Thanks for your perspective Mister.
Nicely done sir. I am going to order one from your buddy, I have been talking to him this week while at deer camp. Thanks for sharing.
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Junxing manufactures this bow. They make very, very good products at a great price. I own their F261 and I wouldn’t trade it for ANY Hoyt. It comes in a left-handed version too!
Personal favorite... Love the shirt.. now i want the pink one .
Had black one with longbow limbs.. delaminated before I could really test it...just got red one with recurve limbs and it shoots pretty good. Red looks really nice with the contrast of the black glass on limbs...will prob get longbow limbs too and a better string
Do you prefer the longbow limbs or recurve?
@@onlyfacts4me well being a more of a longbow man would have to say longbow limbs but recurve prob faster
Hello, thank you from Germany for your video. Most of the clubs here prefer the Longbow For me, outdoors I like the recurv.
Have a nice Time.
Sorry vor my bad Englisch 👍😉
Danke,
Willing to bet your English is better than my German!
Its the shirt ;)
Love it, just bought my first bow from Hitman Archery! Eric is a great guy!
Good video Greg have one like the longbow and it is awesome. i think you can use the left hand riser with either set of limbs or the right hand riser with either set of limbs!
Good day,eh, I've been doing my research on this black hunter longbow, cuz I have 2 longbows now, both at 50# draw weight, but because of 2 surgeries to my right arm, I wanna drop down to a bow with a 40# draw weight, I tried out one recurve at 40#'s , awesome, got the accuracy back right away, so now I'm in the market for a new bow, hopefully I'll get a black hunter longbow, thx for the info , shakyjake out.
Greg, both bows shoot great and I think the shooter may have something to do with that maybe a tad. :-) Thank you.
Amazing longbow. high quality and accurate with fast bamboo limbs.even cheap arrows hit the target. amazing comfortable riser/handle. absolutely no twist or torque when shooting. get a fast flight Flemish and find the sweet spot on tuning and that's it. like it better than my expensive brand name bows.compared to this, Samic sucks i used to own one.
Nice job on the comparison Greg. I am jealous of your shooting skills. I do okay with my recurve but for some reason, I can't shoot a long bow to save my life. (and that's shooting both with my right hand) thanks for all your hard work.
Thanks, nothing to be jealous of, I'm average. Long Bows are a different breed that is for sure. Mostly for me, it is about the handle. That is why this is such a great bow, that is a recurve handle.
@@3DArchery maybe that's the ticket to get a recurve bow grip. Thanks for letting me know. And, you would have to slide way down to be average. Love the dedication of your videos.
Since I know you I take your word. I like the long bow. Have been wanting one for a while.
i am glad i orderd this bow.. AND found your channel :D
Can you point me to where u bought your bow?
Thanks
Very informative thank u much. I had just recently purchased the 50@28 so fukin fast. Just a little noisy for my part idk what to do to dampen the sound other than the whiskers. Great job thanks. How ever I do love my black hunter recurve
Greg, what was the brace height on the Longbow ?
EDIT: so my Black hunter ebay edition arrived today and I took it for a spin ... not bad, not bad ... after I correct a few of the setup mistakes I made and put a nocking point in the string, it should work nicely. shoots straight like a laser ...
EDIT2: lower limb delaminated after about 6-700 shots :-(
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ive got 2 compound bows 1 is 2 years old and 1 is about 5 years old both in showroom condition and a excalibur crossbow micro!! ..The more i watch your videos the more i want to try a stick bow!! It takes a lot of practice to be good worth a stickbow doesnt it?? which do you recommend recurve or longbow?? If i try one i think i will get something aroung 40lbs!!
I'm a newbie and just bought the Black Hunter long bow @ 30lbs. How do I know what arrows to buy for it?
Check out Lancaster or 3 Rivers, they have a chart that will help you. You can also call them or chat online and they will help you. Good Luck!!!
Great video. Enjoyed watching.
Thank you.
Lucky you told us that it was the T-shirt.. I was starting to wonder!!! :D
Which would you prefer for deer 🦌 hunting !
Have you ever checked out chief A.J.'s or Tony's ELITE SLING BOW that can shoot up to 200fps depending on arrow set up ? They are definitely cool and from the videos on RUclips harvesting big game they seem adequate to any traditional bow and seem like would be ideal for mobile hunting etc
For hunting go with which ever one e you can shoot best. I can shoot the sage better.
Would like to see a chronograph reading on both?
about 190 fps
I tried 3 times to get one of those bows. I bought a longbow from Mandarin Duck, tiller was way off. I bought 2 more from Amazon. One longbow and one recurve. Both were messed up. I see so many 5 star reviews on the bow and very few bad reviews. Am I just unlucky?
You ordered from Amazon, not from a established retailer. Many companies in China make clones of the bow and most have no Quality Control.
And those bows are the ones you see on Amazon.
Now do a comparison video on a vehicle of the same brand vehicle with each being a different make, model, year, left/right hand driver, and manual/automatic transmission.
I would be interested to see what you think of the oak ridge Ash, they might be called Galaxy Ash or something where you are. They are a hybrid / longbow 62". Same sort of price as Black Hunter. Very Smooth, a little 'pung' but no biggy, No handshock for me, accurate as you could want and comfy grip, starts at 25ld great in 35 or 40ld for 3d, goes heavier for hunting. It's amazing how much good kit there is without breaking the bank. Thanks for your vids.
Hey Greg, Great video. I just got my Black Hunter Longbow - 30lb. draw and 28" draw length, although I'm considering using a 30" arrow so I can use the tip as an aiming point in my peripheral vision. What is your draw length and what length are your Predator arrows?
My arrows are 30", my draw length is a tad over 29". I went over to Cross X Hurricane Octagons (Stupid name) which are 32" and that extra 2" makes a difference.
@@3DArcherySo you're now shooting an arrow that's 3" longer than your draw. I was considering 2" over my draw (3 Under-string walker) as I think that will give me a sufficient target reference at the arrow tip. Perhaps I'll try 3" over my draw length - what do I know? I'm just starting with Trad. BTW, ya' still shootin' with Pootatuck Tim?
@@maxx302dan
You never know unless you try it
What about the shelf? Its not 90° its got a bit of curve/rounded in the crook
Called a radius and many consider it a better option to a flat shelf
If the difference is really only in visual appearance, then I prefer the longbows much more.
I'm interested in the Longbow version. Too bad they did not have a left-hand model so you could really put it through equal pacings including the same draw weight. But regardless it is a nice video. Thanks!
My wife used hers in Germany and Austria and i can tell you that it is a performer. She had only one day practice with it and while there she shoot better than she has in a long time.
I watched that arrow on one course (120 targets) and was amazed at how flat and fast it flew.
If I was a long bow guy, I would choose this bow.
We need to do a shootout with the Southwest Archery Spyder.
I wish the bear takedown was $600 they usually run closer to $800
James Hagerman
Yeah, waaay over priced. But it is what it is.
Umm if the risers are identical why not use your preferred handed riser to test both recurve and long bow limbs?They are interchangeable. Very confused why you used one left and one right handed one ?!?
Easy, the limbs are not identical, limbs on a right handed model will not work on the limbs of a left handed model.
Would you have been able to put the longbow limbs on your riser to get a proper side by side comparison? Or are they cut different for a right or left bow?
You a tree correct. The left and right are. It interchange. They are looking to fix this down the road
Could the recurve be a good "survival" bow? Could you harvest game with it? Or is it more like a newbie trainer?
It is a quality bow and many people have killed game with it.
Most people I talk to like the longbow the best. Where's Jeff for the longbow review. Longbows quieter in same weight.
The quieter thing is not fact but a wives tale.
Which one is faster with the same lbs?
Black hunter long bow or black hunter recurve bow?
The recurve by a very small amount
So do you prefer the black hunter over the stealth? I bought a used cheap martin, but I will upgrade to a better lowend model if I continue loving this sport. Just curious which model you think is better all around or if yoy have to have a genre, for hunting one day?
I would not say one is "Better" than the other. I can shoot the Stealth more consistent, yet the Black Hunter is "easier" to shoot.
If i had to chose, I would go with the Stealth, it just seems to "fit" me better. Cannot explain it, sorry.
Its certainly sleeker looking, my only hold back before was I'm not sure on limb replacement. I assume ilf is just easier down the road if replacement is ever needed. Plus I found this jaguar for $80 so I got excited for a slight deal
@@Wesleycreardon
No problems withe the limbs and I have done a ton of shooting with it. I do not think it is the best looking, but it sure can shoot.
Nice information.. really help me alot
Great video, thank you.
Excellent
That long bow sounds sweet
Hi Sir, may I know is this bow a bare bow or hunting bow, are there any differences between bare bow and hunting bow? Thank you in advance
Bare Bow is a modern term used to describe a bow used in competition. Today, it refers to an Olympic bow that has the sights and stabilizers removed.
Wooden takedown bows while technically also a "barebow" are not considered that.
@@3DArchery thank you Sir
I just bought a 60# longbow version of it, I went to 3riversarchery for my arrows and got some 31" wooden arrows with a 60-65 spine. Im a little confused on the spine part still, is 60-65 the same as 600-650? Is it a American/European thing like imperial and metric? I was advised by the longbow department that for a 60lb longbow with a 30 inch draw, that 60-65 spine would be the best. I also tipped them with 125gr zwickey eskimo 2 bladed. Do you think my arrows will shoot fine with my bow? Im just getting into archery and im getting conflicting information and I can hardly find ANY suggestions when it comes to the 60lb black hunter as everyone seems to be getting 25-40lb bows :(
Pure Gameplay
Ready for this? Wood, Carbon and Aluminum all use different rating methods.
There is no real correlation.
The 60/65 means for bows 60 to 65 pounds.
They might fly okay. For me, I seem to shoot better with a slightly weaker arrow. But that is just me.
@@3DArchery ah OK thats for the info, can't wait for my bow to arrive and start shooting :)
Have a friend pinch off your arrow shaft when you are at a normal full draw with a 40-50# longbow or recurve and then see what your draw length really is. Most folks think they draw further than they actually do draw. With a compound bow, I draw 28.5 and with a longbow or recurve I draw 27".
How about a short video on your finger sling?
Sure, Don't know what I will say, but I will figure something out :)
I am finding it hard to find left handed bows. I have been waiting for a left handed Southwest Archery Ghost longbow to be back in stock. With that being said have you ever shot the southwest archery ghost longbow. If so how would you compare it to the Black Hunter long bow
Welcome to the frustrating world of left handed archery.
Since we are so small in numbers, manufacturers do not make left handed bow unless they get a certain amount of pre-orders. Yeah, it sucks for us.
Sorry, never shot one, or even seen one. On the positive side, never heard anything bad about them either.
Yeah that sucks... thanks for the reply. I was able to find a left handed old mountain Mesa longbow in stock but I think I may look for a takedown bow. I have to look into the pros and cons of longbow vs takedown longbow
There is no measurable difference with a take down. It is pure personal preference. Now, an ILF takedown there is. But that is due to having a higher level of adjustability.
Thanks again. I will stay with the mountain Mesa long bow and in the spring may pick up a takedown bow if I can find a left handed one.
Is this the Mandarin duck brand or one of the others listed as the black hunter.
Mandarin Duck is just a vendor. The bow is made by Junxing. Mandarin Duck and Hitman both get it from Junxing.
Nice job.
Hi mr. Greg, can you send the link where i can buy this beautiful bow? Thanks in regard!
I believe he says in the video Hitman Archery Supplies (he runs through it really fast), but I ordered mine from AliExpress where several sellers often have it listed in the $90 range.
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Fast Flight string?
thanks
Hi Greg, is this a barebow or a hunting bow?
Both. Bare Bow is a class used in competitions. It really is not a type of bow.
lovely bow. I want one. knew of the recurve, but I think i'll go longbow & get recurve limbs after. one thing i'd say. lovely as it is, the bow's just a tool. it's only as good as the one shooting it ;) ever seen a ambidextrous shooter before. THAT may be an interesting experiment. i'm right eye dominant. how would I aim from that shooting leftie?
I would say yes and no. It does not matter to a point and it only matters to a point. It all comes down to how accurate or should i say consistent you want to be.
As for an ambidextrous archery, you are talking to one. I have several videos of me shooting back and forth switching sides.
I do not believe in the dominant eye stuff. My whole life I have been switching sides. It is just something we lefties do.
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what are the silencer puff ball things called...
Pretty much just that "Puff Ball String Silencers" or "Yarn Ball Silencers"
Go the left handers!!
I have the longbow in red with 45# draw and it's super nice
Got a link to the hitman archery website? Good looking bows!
Tyler Jenkins
Right now they are on Facebook. They are working on a site.
Where are these bows made?
China, by Junxing.
@@3DArchery - I really dont like to buy from China. Do you recommend any other traditional bows for 3d that are not made in China?
@@ultimatejay
Unfortunately, any reasonably priced bow is made in China. Sorry.
i know nothing about bows and i want to get into shooting at my local gun and archery club and watching your video i learned nothing about the differences of a Recurve vs long bow other than they look and sound different
To me, there is no real Tangible differences.
@3D Archery what silencers are those?
Yarn Balls made by Eric from Hitman Archery on Facebook
@3DArchery Where did you got that red one?
That is a prototype.
You can find it on amazon
Have you had any experience with the Galaxy Ember bows? They have interchangeable longbow & recurve limbs, for $199.99 at Lancaster Archery Supplies, I was thinking about pulling the trigger on a 45lb or 50lb model. I'm a long time Compound shooter, my hunting bow is maxed at 82lbs.
Ash Merch I have an ember that I bought at the Baltimore Bowmen Traditional Classic from LAS. It’s the same bow as the Black Hunter. It’s just got different branding. I have some pretty expensive bows and I absolutely love this thing. You will spend a little more buying it from LAS but it comes with their awesome customer service. It will be coming to ETAR with me this year for sure.
@@MichaelTravis12c27 thank you for the reply, I really like the versatility of that thing, my other choice was the Martin Panther. If I was more sure about Traditional archery I would buy the Hoyt Satori
@eric duffy I'm a compound guy, I'm coming down from 80lbs.... idk about the traditional bows, but with compound the heavy draw and higher speeds flatten my trajectory significantly... I was thinking 45-50 too give traditional a shot
how do you aim on a bow that you cant mount a sight on it ? (im coming from a compound bow perspective)
There are several methods. Most involve using the point of the arrow as a reference
Check out GAP and String Walking on RUclips.
@eric duffy How?
Like throwing a baseball , get a big target and u will learn . i dont use gap or tip of arrow i shoot instinctive . Do some research on it
Jason Kong with consistency.
you learn your own feel.
@@JesterWinz this is the correct answer
Do you have links to the arrows you use?
Lancaster Archery is where i get my arrows
Hi Greg .. Great video.
Would you be able to send me a link for the arrows,please .. would like to order them. I’v got the recurve model (35” limbs)
Thank you verry much :-)
Lancaster Archery. That is where i get mine
Would like to know what exact type to go for .. Thank you very much Greg.
@@marekbalaz3504
Carbon Express Predator II's 800 spine, full length is what I use. They are now just called "Predators", I still use the old name.
I thought for whatever reason you were the person who asked about the arrow type before. Sorry for the confusion, getting old ya know.
so the quick shooter ....stunt shooter Lars Anderson.... he says you should have your rest on the same side as your string hand/draw hand. Says that's the ancient way to shoot. Combat shooting when archers had to be quick and accurate to stay alive. I know you shoot right or left handed. So.... have you ever tried that? Or messed with that any? He is quite the archer.. fast and somewhat accurate. I've seen old paintings of ancient time... when army's of men went against one another... History says that's the way they used to shoot. Any thoughts on that?
Not too sure what you call or consider "History". In Europe especially, the arrow was shot off the finger more than the thumb. Speed and accuracy was not so important in battle. They used massed archers and massed volleys. The purpose was to break up formations.
Yes, I have tried it and did not like it, The sight picture was not what I was use to or for me, one that promotes accuracy.
I'm not into historical archery, just not for me. More power to those who are.
Hi Greg. Any chance you could send me a photo of your bow stand, I’ve been looking to build something like that for our club
Sure can. here is my e-mail. send me a note and I will send you the pics later today.
How can you shoot ambidextrous with two different styles and draw lengths? Are you an alien? Just kidding. Great video.
Chad Kampster
The secret is there is zero transference. What you do on one side is not what you will automatically do on the other!
What's your target distance in this video?
20 yards. The white block in front of me is 20 to the bale house.
@@3DArchery Ok
I can't find a website? Do you order through Facebook?
Yes, but be advised Eric is battling COVID 19 right now, so he may not reply quickly
@@3DArchery Thank you!
I do not have Facebook...how can I get in touch with Hitman archery? Need a number
how to buy longbow? link pls!
Online, different companies sell it. On Facebook, look up Hitman Archery. Eric can get you set up.
Greg, will the Black Hunter handle a 29" draw any stacking. Thank you
No stack. I have a 30". That is one of the reasons I really like this bow
That's a 25# long bow? Really? I replayed this vdo 3x.
The Red one, yes, it is #25 pounds
Hhhm ive not seen 25lb limbs advertised for that bow, all the sites ive seen have said 30-60lbs only 🤔. Hopefully this is a new developenent 😊.
Have you measured the length of these bows Greg ? They are advertised as 60" in both forms, I have just bought the long bow version and it is definitely not a 60" bow. Strung or unstrung its just about 1/4 longer than my 58" Bodnik Slick Stick 🤔, and the bodnik string fits it too. I'm intrigued as to why its called a 60" bow !. The bow itself shoots just fine but it is a bit loud, ive got string silencers on it now which have calmed it down quite a bit but ive still got some experimenting to do to get it as quiet as the Slick Stick or my Epic Hawk take down recurve.
I have seen the same bow advertised as 58" and 60" on different lisitngs (ebay, amazon, aliwhatever ...) I thought those are 2 different versions ... bummer ....
@@lubossoltes321 I think they must measure them differently, but it doesnt detract from the fact that they are superb value for money for what you get, and they are as accurate as the archer shooting them 👍.
@@davewebster6945 the problem for me is that I have a 60" recurve now but I don't like the string angle at full draw (can't get the fingers quite right) ... I was looking around for a 64" bow ... I bought the longbow black hunter on an impulse (heck it's almost free) thinking that 60" still won't be worse than what I have ... however if it is actually 58", I might have an issue ...
@@lubossoltes321 I suppose all you can do is try it and see how it feels. I used to get finger pinch with my 62" recurve and it used to mash my index finger against the arrow (mediteranean style) when using a tab and would eventually cause the side of the finger nail to grow with a split in it 😑. I started using an old leather shooting glove that someone had given me and suddenly I wasnt getting the pinch and the problem with the finger and nail 👍. I can now shoot shorter bows without a problem now using that shooting glove 😎.
Dont get disheartened by the length of this bow as it really is a very good bow and it shoots very well indeed 😎.
I have not measured them. When strung, they are the same length. The long bow is 58" without a doubt. Just compared it to my 60" bow and it is 2" shorter
Bows lbs???
25 to 55
Longbow is quieter. Recurve is faster (if they were the same draw weight). Not really a good comparison.
Those are not accurate statements. They might have been years ago. I have tested long bow V recurves for s on a decimeter and found them to to be the same decibel level. What they do have is a different tone. But they are equal in loudness.
As for draw weight, Long bows like the one I tested as just as fast due to the reflex /delfex limb design.
@@3DArchery what are you even talking about? Clearly this isn't a reflex-deflex bow.
@@alexandratrethewey7465 it is a reflex design though. No doubt there.
its definitely better than a samic sage... you should have just joel turner style thumb shot the longbow! hahaha
Recurve seems to be shooting faster ....