This quality of video is by far better than most bs content creators. It paints very well the complexity of the game due to the behaviors of players and bs devs .
Yeah this video is unique unlike some creators just put the video like 10 worst brawlers or 10 forgotten brawler where they just pick random brawler and play 1 game with it
You see, I would also play her, but MAN the voicelines... Not to hate on the voice actor, they did a great job, but playing with janet for me it's the equivalent of putting earrape as background music.
The 2 problems that plague Janet atm is her low damage for being a Marksman in her class, you really can just tank a lot of her shots before she gets run over, and second is that her attack takes too long to scope further without her starpower which speeds it up by 33%, making it a necessity if you want to apply more damage and pressure
1. A zoner with damage might be a bad recipe to play against, specifically if they're as good as Janet. Janet doesn't compete with Brawlers in her class, and I shoukd have been more clear with this - the comparison between her and Piper was largely based on how likely their strengths would appeal to the general public, but Janet has strengths that Piper doesn't have. She doesn't compete with Piper, she competes in a separate bracket. Maybe more damage might be good, but I'd rather they do something else, maybe increasing her health to be more unique among those marksmen. 2. Not necessarily a problem, just an in-built flaw to compensate for the strength of the attack. Could be a problem if the increase starpower is too strong, but the other starpower isn't too strong, so maybe that's why. Maybe that could be tuned, but I'd rather balance a brawler around embellishing strengths than covering weaknesses.
@@turrican3839 janet is good already tbh why does everyone complain the damage can be annoying yes but i love the mechanics so much + its definitely for skilled people and good for showdown
That's the thing tho, unlike most other marksman, Janet does not get ran over, she has many tools to completely escape danger, her super, which is the best escaping tool in the entire game, even passing Mico's super because Janet activates it instantly without the danger of it being cancelled by stun moves and her super charges relatively fast.
@munchiemunchie5226 at first yeah, but even after she was nerfed several times, they kept putting her in S tier (even tho she was only good in gem grab & mid everywhere else at the time) and bcuz of that she kept getting more nerfs bcuz of the pro's opinions
I will always love Janet, no matter what. I've started playing in the middle of Eve's season, so Janet's season was the first one I've met and her Brawl Pass - the first one I bought. Everything about her is amazing for me. Her design, gameplay mechanics and backstory, all of it. She isn't some kind of alien, robot or any other fancy creature. No, a human, a regular human with family, hobbys and personality, and that makes me feel closer to her. When "The one" by Good randoms got released, I watched it with my jaw dropped and to this day I sing it with my heart out. I loved the song and the way Janet looked in the video SO much that it made me return to the game. And what's the most funny thing, it actually happend once again literally a week ago. A lot of things have changed with Janet since the day of her release, but I am sure that everything will still turn out for the better for her, after all, look at the current tier list, you'll see that the brawlers that were best before are now at lower tier and those who's fate looked to be doomed are now popular. And knowing how dynamic the meta is, I'm convinced that Janet will once again be the brightest star in all of Starr Park💖
This video is so well made! Also high respect for avoiding click bait and actually making meaningful and intelligent content. I swear the million sub brawl tubers just make brain rot.
Imo the reason she is super unpopular rn are her undertuned numbers. Back when she was released she was an S-tier Brawler for a very long time and even after a bunch of nerfs she still was fluctuating between A and S-tier. But somewhere in June 2023 (I think it happened around that time) the dev team decided she was meta for too long and basically killed her and she never got any significant buffs again. I really miss Janet meta, one of the Brawlers who despite being meta wasn't broken to deal with (at least after her first bunch of nerfs after release)
Thank for making this video, it’s a great analysis on why my favorite and main brawler doesn’t receive the love that it should by most people..! You explained really well what might be the reasons behind her low play rate and I agree with most of it. Janet might not be the most played brawler but she still has a dedicated fan base! Some weirdos maybe, but also a lot of people that love her gameplay and I am one of them! However, I still need to specify some things! Yes Janet was released with the idea that she can be played in pretty much any matchup or game mode, but first we should remove Heist from this statement… She was decent at best in it when she was an S tier brawler and now it’s just unplayable xd. Then, with how the game has evolved, as a zoner with low damage output she is now very weak to tanks and assassins on maps where they are played and struggles a lot against hypercharges because of her archetype. Obviously this is emphasized by the fact she is on the weaker side right now and might change with a buff. I still can’t understand how people don’t like playing Janet. If you learn her limits, she can actually be played very aggressively since she is so evasive! And flying around the map cannot not be fun, right? Maybe it’s because she is more of a support brawler now with her low damage and people don’t really like support brawlers? I don’t really know but I still enjoy playing her and now she is at least playable not like a few months back, so I won’t complain that much!
I agree with how Janet can be played aggressively. sometimes she’s good at cornering other brawlers on the map which is something I love about her. The Drop the Base gadget is also gets the job done at withering down low HP brawler from a distance. I could punish Piper, Jessie, Crows and other ranged brawlers with Janet. My main problem with Janet is that sometimes her support aspect isn’t the best as I would rather use Byron for supporting my teammates and withering down opponents. However, i go with janet more because she can take a punch and I love the aggressive side of her.
it does suck how the meta has become more aggressive due to hypercharge yet she got no tools to help with that. I feel like she's stuck in this loop of "super should be an anti-aggro escape button but not toooo much of an escape button otherwise she becomes hard to deal with". hopefully a hypercharge can fix that, though
@@SupernaturalColors Yeah sure I really like Byron for this too! By support brawler I meant that she is now often used only to scout bushes on some maps and not to do damages herself!
@@SqquareLord Exactly! She was hard to balance because with a low super charge rate no brawler could punish her, but now this isn’t that big of a deal since she doesn’t have that much impact on the game anyway compared to pre-nerf Janet in the meta before…
I feel like Janet needs a slight rework she’s basically unusable without the first star power and should come standard . Also since her specialty is zoning maybe decrease her reload speed by a bit. Her damage isn’t great and the fact you need to wind up her attack just makes you feel like you’re ticking the opponent.
They could integrate the 2nd Star Power onto her base kit with half the effectiveness and replace it with something like a star power that increases her attack damage slightly the more enemies she pierces with it, and make her 1st SP more useful to also detect invisible enemies aswell as a direct counter play to leon, sandy, and kit
decrease reload speed or time? speed decrease is a nerf, time decrease is a buff. though, reload time buff would be interesting though, letting her zone better
I meant the the second one but they should honestly just keep the full 30% and give her a brand new star power. I don’t think it’s necessary to gut the star power to 30% Janet is used for utility not really dps . I don’t think it would make her broken. And decrease her reload speed by maybe 0.1 seconds that might be a lot tho. They should maybe buff her first star power to reveal for a little longer and the second one could either be a toned down version of her mutation to make her hits targets more consistently.
Loved the video as usual i'm expecially liking the exploration of underutilised and often underated brawler (from the playerbase, the pros know what they are doing) and i always liked the consistent style of brawlers like janet, honestly when i get to the end screen with a 0 on my deathcount i feel very satisfied even if i'm not the star player because it means the you played well (usually)
This is the problem with brawlers that are a “jack of all trades”. They’re amazing if they’re really good, but if they aren’t they’re really bad. almost no in between. She doesn’t have a specific mode she’s best or worst in, so other brawlers outclass her in every mode because she’s just in the middle
thanks for the intelligent commentation on my disseration about the similarities of these two radically differentiated games. It teaches us that the world is not so black and white, and is in fact grey like London.
Janet is another example that I like to bring up whenever people discuss how "brawlers weak on release never recover on player rates". Both Ruffs and Janet were very strong on release and stayed like that for quite a while, yet their playrates were never that crazy and absolutely dropped once they were nerfed (or slightly nerfed, in Ruffs case) because, since they are boring and not crazy strong anymore, why continue playing them? Brawlers like Otis never recovered from their lowest point because they are just plain and boring, if not just tolerable to play, it's not because they are weak, they are BORING to the average player. Colette recovered from her lowest point despite being, arguably, the worst brawler in the history of the game on release, yet supercell won't talk about that. As for Janet, I understand why people don't like playing her. I personally find enjoyment in most brawlers in the game, I love Ruffs and Eve and I enjoy Lou and Otis all in all, but Janet, while tolerable, is a brawler that I generally try to avoid. She can do a lot of stuff but none are particularly rewarding, her gameplay is slow but unlike Eve or Ruffs there's never a moment where your efforts show big results (like pushing the enemy team back with your hatchling army or having all your team buffed and dealing high damage). Her controller aspect is unmatched, but there really isn't a moment when I play her and I'm not thinking "dang, I could be playing another brawler". Love your videos btw, as someone who thinks a lot about the game's balance and how the casual and competitive playerbases interact with it, it was like finding a hidden gem.
thank you so much! Great analysis, Janet's super is arguably merely an escape tool or just used for control, and there's no big payoff for it. Her gadgets are just escape tools or for control, and once again, her star power that increases speed is the only one of her add-ons that make her more fun to play
ruffs: got nerfed in a way that made him unfun to play - release ruffs and ruffs now are quite different brawlers. they're not really comparable and have different playstyles. janet: she was strong, but she was also clunky and due to her zoner role, performs better on organized teams. this is why they waited so long to nerf her - she was strong in organized team play, but not very strong on ladder. this is a case like byron's - once they fell off competitive, they would fall off casual play as well, but they were never played there to begin with. because of this, i wouldn't say weak releases are the sole reason why these brawlers don't recover, but it's always better to maximize retention than risk lowering it, which is why I mentioned it thanks so much! we're happy to have you
another point is that her super just isnt that good and might actually hinder you when playing gamemodes like brawl ball, heist and hotzone...it just isnt that practical and doesn't guarantee value even when used correctly
One thing I would like to say, I don't see Janet as a marksman. Yes she does have the kit of one but the way he is played, I don't see her the same way as belle/Mandy/piper are. If anything, she is closer to brawlers like Lou, Lola and eve, who are meant to be brawlers specialist in DMG at midrange. Edit: I would like to suggest another class separate from marksman, brawlers with long range DMG potential. This is cuz maize, eve and gray, even if they have long range can't deal witlong range DMG dealers but are better at any mid ranger DMG guys. Yeas they will be ok with a marksman but they aren't in a advantage against them
@@idonthaveenoughimagination429 I agree, the Brawl stars classification is bad in general. But having a bit more things like subclasses can help In a long way. Also Janet being called a Marksman sounds Soo odd to me since I always saw her in the same league as Lou, Lola and Eve and not someone like piper and Brock. It's pretty weird for me that Janet is a marksman in his video that I told my opinion here.
I was thinking on picking up Janet once I get to ublock her, the few gameplay I've seen and played felt fun. I'm thinking in more about it (but I still have the op brawlers to max first), the tactical gameplay is fun to me as well. And also, amazing video, I love these documentary style, of any game. I'll watch all others noe
Maybe because she went from being a S tier to F or D tier brawler and not getting a damage buff or hypercharge that other brawlers like belle, piper, Mandy, Nani, colt and Brock… Edit: I didn’t finish the video but I liked how you classify Janet as a defensive generalist who is best at zoning
Ah December 2023... I took a break since everyone just plays Fang religiously. I used to be able to carry the team with any brawler even off meta pick by giving positive trade. But this very skillful button mashing brawler can just team wipe you using super and hypercharge combo. Truly an experience!
Here's some more buff concepts since all seemed to like the Bull one buff the fully focused attacks range to 9.75 at max focus. High note deals 1157 damage, the closer the opponent is the more damage it deals(Up to 200%) Rework Stage View into Rocket Girl which allows her to drop a bunch of bombs as opposed to some. (Like her mutation but not as broken) Vocal Warm Up: 30% faster focus and increased damage based on focus Give her a Mythic Gadget called Peek Performance that replaces Stage View's abilities this was quite a brain boggler to come up with. I really hope you enjoy what potential this gives her for area denial.
Can u do a separate video on what generalist, specialist, aggressive and defensive brawlers are. How we can classify each brawlers and how they are related to each other/how each class can counter each other? That would be good
I quit this game for a year and came back recently. I still thought Janet was broken and I somehow pushed her to rank 30 😂. Then I realized that she was literally in the D tier. I don’t think she’s actually as bad as people think though imo. Btw great vid
As a Janet main, the reason why I was drawn to Janet was that she had a unique game play and her backstory was actually cute for me since I am also an older sister!
You should make a video on Chuck. He was such a hyped brawler and then got quickly forgotten. I like playing him, but he really needs something else to be playable outside heist and two gem grab maps. When Chuck got first released I thought he'd be another Mortis in the fanbase, because of his design and versatile mechanics, but he's just so awkward to play that people didn't feel like learning his kit, which sucks tbh... I think he's pretty unique.
This video made me realise why Janet is a skilled and unique brawler compared to other brawlers, changed my view on Janet and analysing her made me understand more about her
Realistically speaking a big problem is randoms, for example I prefer using brawlers like nita and piper because they are brawlers that can carry if my teammates are trash. Using brawlers like Janet makes you rely on randoms more
I played them a little bit of Janet during mutations. Duels was fun cause you play Stu first, either win or die, and go into Janet with a free super, bombing the opponent a bunch and landing for a free kill
I agree pretty much with everything u said, but i dont think u elaborated enough in the "pushing back" aspect. Janet is, like u said, good in pushing back enemies slowly, forcing them into bad positions. This works in most game modes, but is VERY macro oriented which most folks dont particularly care about especially in a fast-paced game like brawlstars. Janets main advantage against other pressure appliers is her versatility, mid tankyness and escape tools. Pierce also happens to be extremely useful in pushing, since more brawlers into one spot doesnt mean she ll be as threatened like other brawlers who share a similar role. However, these so called "advantages" assume u already know how to zone/is zoning ur enemies, rather than making it easier, like crows poison. Here i need to mention buzz. Buzzs trait teaches players how to zone their enemies just by playing him. Janets kit assumes u already know everything of what ure doing. Janets main problem is that her role is often not recognized, most players dont even know it exists, and in the end it isnt particularly easy to learn or execute.
The video is very cool, the author is underrated as Janet, but I would like to see your ideas on how to fix this in such videos. (Sorry if there are any mistakes, I'm not a native English speaker)
Over time, Janet has even more alternatives than before, the same Miko who stays in the air a little longer and does not suffer damage from poison clouds in showdown.
I love this type of content first Second, I am a janet main, ppl just think Janet mains are simps or kind of this, but like the techniques or strategies with janet are insane when she was in her prime, a mid range controller brawler, decent attack and ok super, maybe not the flashiest brawler but these type of controllers or just simple abilities just do not serve community anymore they just like just aggressive and flashy brawlers, and the newest example is lily just sad about og players with good mechanics And pros really appreciate these type of brawlers which is fine I guess
The reason why Janet and around 60% of all brawlers have a low pick rate is because we have brawlers like Kit, Piper, Brock, Mandy, Sandy, Surge and etc that are insanely broken making it either play meta or loose.
Yeah this video is unique unlike some creators just put the video like 10 worst brawlers or 10 forgotten brawler where they just pick random brawler and play 1 game with it
I main Janet. I find generalists to be really fun, and i find her kit interesting. My winrate with her has got to be at least 85%, but I couldn’t tell you why. This is a really good analysis, and i think she could become used again with some tweaking.
As an old player who just returned to the game and got Janet recently, I say that her playstyle feels very clunky. It gives me the awkward feeling of playing the old Mortis without the long dash update or maybe even worse. I mean compared to other marksmen such as Piper and Bea, unlike them, her basic attacks take time to focus but the range and damage is mid. Her ultimate is unique but it lacks the freedom to properly bombard the opponent since it takes accurate timing and precision to match your flight to the opponent’s movement or else you won’t be able to maximize the damage. What’s worse is that her gadgets and star powers are just designed to fix her kit, they do not give her any remarkable features or any significant additions to her playstyle.
Think Janet could use a rework to her super, maybe allowing you to cancel the super mid flight or be able to take flight multiple times kind of like how Melodie gets 3 dashes. Maybe increase movement speed so she can compete at longer ranges, and be able to outrun tanks and hypercharge agro idk. Maybe a slight damage increase or a reload speed increase.
Tbh most people say that Janet is a boring brawler who’s straight up trash. Personally I find Janet fun because I used to main crow, spike, surge, all these high dmg brawlers than can just obliterate like 30 franks in 2 seconds. But that’s pretty much it, it’s just button mashing. Janet is a slower pace brawler, personally I like to play because she’s highly defensive and in the current meta.(frank meg and lily) she out ranges all of them similar to snipers. She also has two very very good gadgets. But that’s just my opinion. There’s brawlers like Gray and Byron who are also versatile and fun.
People were not that hyped for Janet? I could swear literally everyone was talking about her and Bonnie back then, i knew who they were even tho i didn't even play brawl stars back then
I find lou so fun, I don't care if it is bad or anything. Stunning enemies is so fun, and with the hypercharge, you and your team can teamwipe, and if you play it right, you can get 2 supers with the same hypercharge. Also, idk why people say lou is bad, when the star power can half enemy damage.
Yeah same thing happened,My favourite character is Dark Speakerman (from Skibidi Toilet) and I just want to look some art about him but I saw lots of Sus things Even Dark Speakerman is a Boy
Isn't it always better to pick a brawler who specializes in the gamemode you're in over Janet? I feel like that's the main disadvantage of being a generalist
Awesome video. Would really appreciate if you did Brock next. He's my main I love the guy lol Also I really hate how the general consensus with him is that he's the easiest sniper, which isn't true at all... So if you could do a vid to really analyze him it would be great!
Thank you, and Brock is definitely not the easiest sniper by a long shot, it requires good skill to know how how to hit his shots. brock prez coming out next week
She is my second fav brawler, right after fang, now DONT GET ME WRONG, I don't main fang beacuse he is overpowered, I ain't toxic, I just love his battle gimic and his story that he is cinema worker, bestie with buster and maisie and he is martial arts(especially Kung Fu) popcorn fan teen. I love janet that I even got her to rank 23. Reason why she got so Damn underrated is also beacuse people think maiming her will mean "you are a simp", well idc I don't also main janet because I'm sort of perverted person worth only dirty minds of ppl(wich virus charlie needs to expose them) but beacuse I love her mechanics, design is well made, her story and origins are awesome, she only got dirty by these nerfs and ignoring the fact she got down BAD once melodie came, with that animation, supercell really showed their treatment of her and she really doesn't deserve that. She really deserves a good buff and rework, she is slowly becoming THE worst brawler like frank, or at least give her a hypercharge to top her
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nice video, but can you do a video on max?
Nice video but can you do a video on why I’m the best brawler in the game
Sandy/rosa would be a really cool or interesting one
Can you make a vid on fang?
if im gonna be completely honest i dont remeber seeing a janet in a match in like the past year
Same man
same theyre wery rare
If I had Janet I'd play with her all day😭
ikr im the only janet main in the world honestly
@@regbyboys nope I main her too
This quality of video is by far better than most bs content creators. It paints very well the complexity of the game due to the behaviors of players and bs devs .
thank you so much!
thank you!!
It even uses an ai voice. And it s still better. That tells you they re good
Yeah finally a good content creator not just a "OMG NEW SKIN?? WHAT IF X BRAWLER DID THIS"
Yeah this video is unique unlike some creators just put the video like 10 worst brawlers or 10 forgotten brawler where they just pick random brawler and play 1 game with it
I really like Janet because It's a Brawler that provides a lot of things to a team and you always feel like you are pulling your weight.
Bro just be honest. Janet is bad
You see, I would also play her, but MAN the voicelines... Not to hate on the voice actor, they did a great job, but playing with janet for me it's the equivalent of putting earrape as background music.
She’s actually pretty good if you know how to play her just not in this meta
@@Alb_Balk i love janet voicelines i can actually play by just for them
This is your pilot speaking, HEyAaaA@@Alb_Balk
The 2 problems that plague Janet atm is her low damage for being a Marksman in her class, you really can just tank a lot of her shots before she gets run over, and second is that her attack takes too long to scope further without her starpower which speeds it up by 33%, making it a necessity if you want to apply more damage and pressure
1. A zoner with damage might be a bad recipe to play against, specifically if they're as good as Janet. Janet doesn't compete with Brawlers in her class, and I shoukd have been more clear with this - the comparison between her and Piper was largely based on how likely their strengths would appeal to the general public, but Janet has strengths that Piper doesn't have. She doesn't compete with Piper, she competes in a separate
bracket. Maybe more damage might be good, but I'd rather they do something else, maybe increasing her health to be more unique among those marksmen.
2. Not necessarily a problem, just an in-built flaw to compensate for the strength of the attack. Could be a problem if the increase starpower is too strong, but the other starpower isn't too strong, so maybe that's why. Maybe that could be tuned, but I'd rather balance a brawler around embellishing strengths than covering weaknesses.
Janet should be a controller tbh, her zoning capabilities makes her more fitting into that class
@@SqquareLord that compensation has long been since invalidated by her old nerfs which still kicks her in the cooch
@@turrican3839 janet is good already tbh why does everyone complain the damage can be annoying yes but i love the mechanics so much + its definitely for skilled people and good for showdown
That's the thing tho, unlike most other marksman, Janet does not get ran over, she has many tools to completely escape danger, her super, which is the best escaping tool in the entire game, even passing Mico's super because Janet activates it instantly without the danger of it being cancelled by stun moves and her super charges relatively fast.
6:38 Child using clown pin spoted
i didn't even notice that 😭
you forced me to watch an ad clicking on the timestamp
I love how he roasts Edgar mains at the beginning.
Edgar deserves it
same bc it feels like he’s breaking character to insult him lol
Pogo no he doesent
I'm just glad the pro propaganda is over
Janet mains can finally breathe from nerfs :D
And we do....less dmg than a piper at lv 1....when janet IS in lv 11
I mean it wasn't really propaganda.
@munchiemunchie5226 at first yeah, but even after she was nerfed several times, they kept putting her in S tier (even tho she was only good in gem grab & mid everywhere else at the time) and bcuz of that she kept getting more nerfs bcuz of the pro's opinions
@@misterdirtslayer She and Max were definitely S tier, they were at least A-B tier in most modes. The pros have no reason to lie or mislead us.
I will always love Janet, no matter what. I've started playing in the middle of Eve's season, so Janet's season was the first one I've met and her Brawl Pass - the first one I bought. Everything about her is amazing for me. Her design, gameplay mechanics and backstory, all of it. She isn't some kind of alien, robot or any other fancy creature. No, a human, a regular human with family, hobbys and personality, and that makes me feel closer to her. When "The one" by Good randoms got released, I watched it with my jaw dropped and to this day I sing it with my heart out. I loved the song and the way Janet looked in the video SO much that it made me return to the game. And what's the most funny thing, it actually happend once again literally a week ago. A lot of things have changed with Janet since the day of her release, but I am sure that everything will still turn out for the better for her, after all, look at the current tier list, you'll see that the brawlers that were best before are now at lower tier and those who's fate looked to be doomed are now popular. And knowing how dynamic the meta is, I'm convinced that Janet will once again be the brightest star in all of Starr Park💖
The amount of edgar i play in ranked is insane. I deserve jail time😭
lock this guy up 😭
I fear no man but that thing…
It scares me
learn some colt in heist and belle in other modes trust
Bro is 👎 irl
that's why i love playing shelly in ranked so much lol
8:00 Zoning is the act to keep opponents from not going to an area, not to clear areas.
Both?
It could be both and in the case of Janet it’s both but I agree that the zoning definition doesn’t necessarily implies clearing areas
clearing areas such that opponents do not go to them as easily, the definitions are one and the same
This video is so well made! Also high respect for avoiding click bait and actually making meaningful and intelligent content.
I swear the million sub brawl tubers just make brain rot.
thank you so much!
Imo the reason she is super unpopular rn are her undertuned numbers. Back when she was released she was an S-tier Brawler for a very long time and even after a bunch of nerfs she still was fluctuating between A and S-tier. But somewhere in June 2023 (I think it happened around that time) the dev team decided she was meta for too long and basically killed her and she never got any significant buffs again. I really miss Janet meta, one of the Brawlers who despite being meta wasn't broken to deal with (at least after her first bunch of nerfs after release)
Thank for making this video, it’s a great analysis on why my favorite and main brawler doesn’t receive the love that it should by most people..! You explained really well what might be the reasons behind her low play rate and I agree with most of it. Janet might not be the most played brawler but she still has a dedicated fan base! Some weirdos maybe, but also a lot of people that love her gameplay and I am one of them!
However, I still need to specify some things! Yes Janet was released with the idea that she can be played in pretty much any matchup or game mode, but first we should remove Heist from this statement… She was decent at best in it when she was an S tier brawler and now it’s just unplayable xd. Then, with how the game has evolved, as a zoner with low damage output she is now very weak to tanks and assassins on maps where they are played and struggles a lot against hypercharges because of her archetype. Obviously this is emphasized by the fact she is on the weaker side right now and might change with a buff.
I still can’t understand how people don’t like playing Janet. If you learn her limits, she can actually be played very aggressively since she is so evasive! And flying around the map cannot not be fun, right? Maybe it’s because she is more of a support brawler now with her low damage and people don’t really like support brawlers? I don’t really know but I still enjoy playing her and now she is at least playable not like a few months back, so I won’t complain that much!
Ur right she sucks in heist
I agree with how Janet can be played aggressively. sometimes she’s good at cornering other brawlers on the map which is something I love about her. The Drop the Base gadget is also gets the job done at withering down low HP brawler from a distance.
I could punish Piper, Jessie, Crows and other ranged brawlers with Janet. My main problem with Janet is that sometimes her support aspect isn’t the best as I would rather use Byron for supporting my teammates and withering down opponents. However, i go with janet more because she can take a punch and I love the aggressive side of her.
it does suck how the meta has become more aggressive due to hypercharge yet she got no tools to help with that. I feel like she's stuck in this loop of "super should be an anti-aggro escape button but not toooo much of an escape button otherwise she becomes hard to deal with". hopefully a hypercharge can fix that, though
@@SupernaturalColors Yeah sure I really like Byron for this too! By support brawler I meant that she is now often used only to scout bushes on some maps and not to do damages herself!
@@SqquareLord Exactly! She was hard to balance because with a low super charge rate no brawler could punish her, but now this isn’t that big of a deal since she doesn’t have that much impact on the game anyway compared to pre-nerf Janet in the meta before…
janet looks so fun and cheesy, flying and damaging while they cant do anything
But expect for distracting or escaping, this super is awkward to use since the payoff is huge
@@默言相認 Yeah the super is too awkward and hard to control
@@punchthecake82 bonnie looks ridicilous,but janet is just offensive
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thankssss i hope we can grow 🤞
that means so much thank you ♥
Don't worry Janet, it doesn't matter how bad you are, I'll never stop using you ❤
I feel like Janet needs a slight rework she’s basically unusable without the first star power and should come standard . Also since her specialty is zoning maybe decrease her reload speed by a bit. Her damage isn’t great and the fact you need to wind up her attack just makes you feel like you’re ticking the opponent.
You mean the star power that makes her attack range increase quicker right? Cuz thats the second one I think
They could integrate the 2nd Star Power onto her base kit with half the effectiveness and replace it with something like a star power that increases her attack damage slightly the more enemies she pierces with it, and make her 1st SP more useful to also detect invisible enemies aswell as a direct counter play to leon, sandy, and kit
decrease reload speed or time? speed decrease is a nerf, time decrease is a buff. though, reload time buff would be interesting though, letting her zone better
@@SqquareLord yea, since shes a zoner, a buff to her reload speed would serve as a compensation for her low damage output
I meant the the second one but they should honestly just keep the full 30% and give her a brand new star power. I don’t think it’s necessary to gut the star power to 30% Janet is used for utility not really dps . I don’t think it would make her broken. And decrease her reload speed by maybe 0.1 seconds that might be a lot tho. They should maybe buff her first star power to reveal for a little longer and the second one could either be a toned down version of her mutation to make her hits targets more consistently.
Are people still confused as to why Janet is not being used? It's simply because she's weak. She needs at least a damage buff.
Loved the video as usual i'm expecially liking the exploration of underutilised and often underated brawler (from the playerbase, the pros know what they are doing) and i always liked the consistent style of brawlers like janet, honestly when i get to the end screen with a 0 on my deathcount i feel very satisfied even if i'm not the star player because it means the you played well (usually)
This is the problem with brawlers that are a “jack of all trades”. They’re amazing if they’re really good, but if they aren’t they’re really bad. almost no in between. She doesn’t have a specific mode she’s best or worst in, so other brawlers outclass her in every mode because she’s just in the middle
Janet’s attack is only slightly more than Poco. That’s wild.
Data analysis and human psychology, man I love brawl stars
the wild and wooly world of game design
Spike is simply the better damage dealer,controller,marksman,support,assassin,hybrid.
what does spike have to do with vid
@@Mqwizzxc"why no one plays janet" Because theres always a better option, like spike
spike is not good anymore
stop going spike in my ranked matches
@@nerfjanetreal yeah its like choosing nothing, still better than janet lol
@@mauriciocuaranta4343 my janet is the carry in ~50% of ranked games
The spike on my team gets garbage stats 50% of the time
1:30 Clever joke, I enjoy that you made a connection between different game genres and made me resonate with the circumstance.
thanks for the intelligent commentation on my disseration about the similarities of these two radically differentiated games. It teaches us that the world is not so black and white, and is in fact grey like London.
Janet is another example that I like to bring up whenever people discuss how "brawlers weak on release never recover on player rates". Both Ruffs and Janet were very strong on release and stayed like that for quite a while, yet their playrates were never that crazy and absolutely dropped once they were nerfed (or slightly nerfed, in Ruffs case) because, since they are boring and not crazy strong anymore, why continue playing them? Brawlers like Otis never recovered from their lowest point because they are just plain and boring, if not just tolerable to play, it's not because they are weak, they are BORING to the average player. Colette recovered from her lowest point despite being, arguably, the worst brawler in the history of the game on release, yet supercell won't talk about that.
As for Janet, I understand why people don't like playing her. I personally find enjoyment in most brawlers in the game, I love Ruffs and Eve and I enjoy Lou and Otis all in all, but Janet, while tolerable, is a brawler that I generally try to avoid. She can do a lot of stuff but none are particularly rewarding, her gameplay is slow but unlike Eve or Ruffs there's never a moment where your efforts show big results (like pushing the enemy team back with your hatchling army or having all your team buffed and dealing high damage). Her controller aspect is unmatched, but there really isn't a moment when I play her and I'm not thinking "dang, I could be playing another brawler".
Love your videos btw, as someone who thinks a lot about the game's balance and how the casual and competitive playerbases interact with it, it was like finding a hidden gem.
thank you so much! Great analysis, Janet's super is arguably merely an escape tool or just used for control, and there's no big payoff for it. Her gadgets are just escape tools or for control, and once again, her star power that increases speed is the only one of her add-ons that make her more fun to play
ruffs: got nerfed in a way that made him unfun to play - release ruffs and ruffs now are quite different brawlers. they're not really comparable and have different playstyles.
janet: she was strong, but she was also clunky and due to her zoner role, performs better on organized teams. this is why they waited so long to nerf her - she was strong in organized team play, but not very strong on ladder. this is a case like byron's - once they fell off competitive, they would fall off casual play as well, but they were never played there to begin with.
because of this, i wouldn't say weak releases are the sole reason why these brawlers don't recover, but it's always better to maximize retention than risk lowering it, which is why I mentioned it
thanks so much! we're happy to have you
another point is that her super just isnt that good and might actually hinder you when playing gamemodes like brawl ball, heist and hotzone...it just isnt that practical and doesn't guarantee value even when used correctly
Excuse me,what is"since they are boring" who tf Judge the fun of a brawler
@@al-khazouq2172think Sherlock think why would u play the brawler if it isn't fun to play it
One thing I would like to say, I don't see Janet as a marksman. Yes she does have the kit of one but the way he is played, I don't see her the same way as belle/Mandy/piper are. If anything, she is closer to brawlers like Lou, Lola and eve, who are meant to be brawlers specialist in DMG at midrange.
Edit: I would like to suggest another class separate from marksman, brawlers with long range DMG potential. This is cuz maize, eve and gray, even if they have long range can't deal witlong range DMG dealers but are better at any mid ranger DMG guys. Yeas they will be ok with a marksman but they aren't in a advantage against them
Mate, Brawl Stars classification is bad. Think about Tanks. Some of them are really tanks, while others cannot be considered tanks.
@@idonthaveenoughimagination429 I agree, the Brawl stars classification is bad in general. But having a bit more things like subclasses can help In a long way. Also Janet being called a Marksman sounds Soo odd to me since I always saw her in the same league as Lou, Lola and Eve and not someone like piper and Brock. It's pretty weird for me that Janet is a marksman in his video that I told my opinion here.
I was thinking on picking up Janet once I get to ublock her, the few gameplay I've seen and played felt fun. I'm thinking in more about it (but I still have the op brawlers to max first), the tactical gameplay is fun to me as well.
And also, amazing video, I love these documentary style, of any game. I'll watch all others noe
thank you so much ♥
Maybe because she went from being a S tier to F or D tier brawler and not getting a damage buff or hypercharge that other brawlers like belle, piper, Mandy, Nani, colt and Brock…
Edit: I didn’t finish the video but I liked how you classify Janet as a defensive generalist who is best at zoning
as a janet main (940) plz delete this video i was so happy to be the only one who plays janet now everyone just started playing with her😭😭
0:03 Nah that Janet though💀💀💀
The peak and end part was explained really well, it also made me realize why the pekka is such a popular card in Clash Royale
Ah December 2023...
I took a break since everyone just plays Fang religiously. I used to be able to carry the team with any brawler even off meta pick by giving positive trade. But this very skillful button mashing brawler can just team wipe you using super and hypercharge combo. Truly an experience!
i love it when i am a gus and i am just chilling in mid lane but oh no suddenly fang goes like 🟣🟡🟢🔴🔴🔴🟡
I love the Stunt Show Update and I think Jant should be one of the next brawlers to get a hypercharge :(
She deserves it
i was so invested i didnt realize this dude only had 3k subs def deserves a lot more👏
thank you!
Here's some more buff concepts since all seemed to like the Bull one
buff the fully focused attacks range to 9.75 at max focus.
High note deals 1157 damage, the closer the opponent is the more damage it deals(Up to 200%)
Rework Stage View into Rocket Girl which allows her to drop a bunch of bombs as opposed to some. (Like her mutation but not as broken)
Vocal Warm Up: 30% faster focus and increased damage based on focus
Give her a Mythic Gadget called Peek Performance that replaces Stage View's abilities
this was quite a brain boggler to come up with. I really hope you enjoy what potential this gives her for area denial.
Can u do a separate video on what generalist, specialist, aggressive and defensive brawlers are. How we can classify each brawlers and how they are related to each other/how each class can counter each other?
That would be good
I would actually start playing Janet again if her damage was increased to 2000 like most other brawler
Her main attack at max level is 1960 (estimate 2000)
I quit this game for a year and came back recently. I still thought Janet was broken and I somehow pushed her to rank 30 😂. Then I realized that she was literally in the D tier. I don’t think she’s actually as bad as people think though imo. Btw great vid
sheesh ur him!
fr (got her rank 27)
C*
@@BestParkour8 Back then she was D tier
I think people doesnt play her bc they dont want to show they are simp to janet i think 😅
but people do play Melodie and Charlie
“Erm, 1 minute and one view? Bro fell off”
☝️🤓
(Janet fell off)
nahhh im cooked 😭😢🙏
Yes
Surprised to see janet play rate lower than bonnie i thought bonnie is the most forgotten
As a Janet main, the reason why I was drawn to Janet was that she had a unique game play and her backstory was actually cute for me since I am also an older sister!
You should make a video on Chuck. He was such a hyped brawler and then got quickly forgotten. I like playing him, but he really needs something else to be playable outside heist and two gem grab maps.
When Chuck got first released I thought he'd be another Mortis in the fanbase, because of his design and versatile mechanics, but he's just so awkward to play that people didn't feel like learning his kit, which sucks tbh... I think he's pretty unique.
This video made me realise why Janet is a skilled and unique brawler compared to other brawlers, changed my view on Janet and analysing her made me understand more about her
Realistically speaking a big problem is randoms, for example I prefer using brawlers like nita and piper because they are brawlers that can carry if my teammates are trash. Using brawlers like Janet makes you rely on randoms more
I played them a little bit of Janet during mutations. Duels was fun cause you play Stu first, either win or die, and go into Janet with a free super, bombing the opponent a bunch and landing for a free kill
I agree pretty much with everything u said, but i dont think u elaborated enough in the "pushing back" aspect.
Janet is, like u said, good in pushing back enemies slowly, forcing them into bad positions. This works in most game modes, but is VERY macro oriented which most folks dont particularly care about especially in a fast-paced game like brawlstars.
Janets main advantage against other pressure appliers is her versatility, mid tankyness and escape tools. Pierce also happens to be extremely useful in pushing, since more brawlers into one spot doesnt mean she ll be as threatened like other brawlers who share a similar role.
However, these so called "advantages" assume u already know how to zone/is zoning ur enemies, rather than making it easier, like crows poison.
Here i need to mention buzz. Buzzs trait teaches players how to zone their enemies just by playing him. Janets kit assumes u already know everything of what ure doing.
Janets main problem is that her role is often not recognized, most players dont even know it exists, and in the end it isnt particularly easy to learn or execute.
great analysis!
One of the most informational videos brawl stars videos I’ve watched lol
the surge one is so real like who doesn't like surge and he's mechanics
Janet Is One My Favorite Brawlers, And Seeing Her In The Bottom Of The F Tier Is Honestly Pretty Sad.
They Need To Buff Her Main Attack.
It will be too op, she is strong enough in 1vs1, like duels.
As a Janet main it's so sad that she's so underrated,she's a pretty skillfull brawler imo
The video is very cool, the author is underrated as Janet, but I would like to see your ideas on how to fix this in such videos. (Sorry if there are any mistakes, I'm not a native English speaker)
Over time, Janet has even more alternatives than before, the same Miko who stays in the air a little longer and does not suffer damage from poison clouds in showdown.
I love this type of content first
Second, I am a janet main, ppl just think Janet mains are simps or kind of this, but like the techniques or strategies with janet are insane when she was in her prime, a mid range controller brawler, decent attack and ok super, maybe not the flashiest brawler but these type of controllers or just simple abilities just do not serve community anymore they just like just aggressive and flashy brawlers, and the newest example is lily just sad about og players with good mechanics
And pros really appreciate these type of brawlers which is fine I guess
I understand your pain
The reason why Janet and around 60% of all brawlers have a low pick rate is because we have brawlers like Kit, Piper, Brock, Mandy, Sandy, Surge and etc that are insanely broken making it either play meta or loose.
And literally Janet is my #1 used brawler these days lol
Yeah this video is unique unlike some creators just put the video like 10 worst brawlers or 10 forgotten brawler where they just pick random brawler and play 1 game with it
I main Janet. I find generalists to be really fun, and i find her kit interesting. My winrate with her has got to be at least 85%, but I couldn’t tell you why. This is a really good analysis, and i think she could become used again with some tweaking.
I came back to brawl and she is still my favourite but really impossible to play well if someone plays janet its gonna be always me
janet is actually one of my favorite brawlers tho i cant drop her and i was only missing 10 gems for a pass with her :(
Im genuinely sad that very few people play janet, u never see her in games
As an old player who just returned to the game and got Janet recently, I say that her playstyle feels very clunky. It gives me the awkward feeling of playing the old Mortis without the long dash update or maybe even worse. I mean compared to other marksmen such as Piper and Bea, unlike them, her basic attacks take time to focus but the range and damage is mid.
Her ultimate is unique but it lacks the freedom to properly bombard the opponent since it takes accurate timing and precision to match your flight to the opponent’s movement or else you won’t be able to maximize the damage.
What’s worse is that her gadgets and star powers are just designed to fix her kit, they do not give her any remarkable features or any significant additions to her playstyle.
Think Janet could use a rework to her super, maybe allowing you to cancel the super mid flight or be able to take flight multiple times kind of like how Melodie gets 3 dashes. Maybe increase movement speed so she can compete at longer ranges, and be able to outrun tanks and hypercharge agro idk. Maybe a slight damage increase or a reload speed increase.
i might be the only person having janet's title and actually maining her
You’re are so underrated! You’re are very good Bs RUclipsr! Keep up the good work.❤
Thank you!
Tbh most people say that Janet is a boring brawler who’s straight up trash. Personally I find Janet fun because I used to main crow, spike, surge, all these high dmg brawlers than can just obliterate like 30 franks in 2 seconds. But that’s pretty much it, it’s just button mashing. Janet is a slower pace brawler, personally I like to play because she’s highly defensive and in the current meta.(frank meg and lily) she out ranges all of them similar to snipers. She also has two very very good gadgets. But that’s just my opinion. There’s brawlers like Gray and Byron who are also versatile and fun.
Unless your main is Edgar 😭💀 so true
People were not that hyped for Janet? I could swear literally everyone was talking about her and Bonnie back then, i knew who they were even tho i didn't even play brawl stars back then
Me and the five janet players worldwide appreciate this video🙌
0:25 what did he do to you😭😭
we dont talk about it 💀
as a janet main, i can say with certainty, we a rare
5:45 its literally impossible if Amber uses auto fire at close range.
My guess why she has so low use rate is because you can literall sleep without even knowing while playing her
People play Janet due to skimping but now cuz of Melodie no one plays Janet anymore.
I find lou so fun, I don't care if it is bad or anything. Stunning enemies is so fun, and with the hypercharge, you and your team can teamwipe, and if you play it right, you can get 2 supers with the same hypercharge. Also, idk why people say lou is bad, when the star power can half enemy damage.
I really like playing Lou as well, but not as much as Squarelord…
RAHHH LOU MENTIONED
I got Janet like 2 weeks ago and pushed her to 812 just cause I liked her. Imo she’s a very balanced brawler but not as good as she should be.
Not only did you explain Janet's use rate, you also explained why star drops succeeded. That's kinda crazy.
In my opinion, they should allow her to recharge shot and heal while in the air, like Mico can
The main reason i hate janet is cause the fanbase ruined her 💀
Tell me of a human female character of any fandom that hasn't been ruined. I'll wait.
Still waiting
@@genio2509 after 2 long weeks of thinking yeah every fanbase ruins a female character 😭
Yeah same thing happened,My favourite character is Dark Speakerman (from Skibidi Toilet) and I just want to look some art about him but I saw lots of Sus things Even Dark Speakerman is a Boy
@@Turkishgamer461 No way
EVEN SKIBIDI TOILET WTF
I miss first picking her in ranked and absolutely carry the whole game…
The unpopular brawler that actually make sense (She is beyond boring and you can't convince me otherwise without calling you a janet glazer)
i swear last time i ever saw a Janet that wasn't a bot was like in January
Title: "Why no one plays Janet"
Me, a Janet main: Am I invisible?😢
I really like the way janet can dodge so many things, thats also why i main her
she’s more technical like u said. most ppl like no skill brawlers like edgar or kit and don’t bat an eye when they see a brawler like janet
I like the idea of gear tokens and scrap but they went about it in the wrong way
lol I mained her until rank 20 yesterday, she's so good, I don't know why no-one plays with her😭
she's so fun to play
Хорошое и информативное видео,продолжай в том же духе!
as a janet main, i feel very sad that she is the most unpopular brawler
I've been a Janet main since she released and I pray she gets her buffs, someday
this aged well, although she only got 2% attack damage buff
I think she should just deal more damage with her attack, drastically higher with her super bombs, and have way less health
U see a grom or a janet in a server u know you've hit rock bottom 💀
Bro, my first mastery title was on Janet, but I'm still playing her💪
Isn't it always better to pick a brawler who specializes in the gamemode you're in over Janet? I feel like that's the main disadvantage of being a generalist
Imma be honest, I play surge not because I think he’s cool, it’s because jumping on people makes dopamine go up📈
10:03 не ошидал увидеть нашу крымскую няш - мяш
Awesome video. Would really appreciate if you did Brock next. He's my main I love the guy lol
Also I really hate how the general consensus with him is that he's the easiest sniper, which isn't true at all... So if you could do a vid to really analyze him it would be great!
Thank you, and Brock is definitely not the easiest sniper by a long shot, it requires good skill to know how how to hit his shots. brock prez coming out next week
Marksman are my favorite category of brawlers.
She is my second fav brawler, right after fang, now DONT GET ME WRONG, I don't main fang beacuse he is overpowered, I ain't toxic, I just love his battle gimic and his story that he is cinema worker, bestie with buster and maisie and he is martial arts(especially Kung Fu) popcorn fan teen. I love janet that I even got her to rank 23. Reason why she got so Damn underrated is also beacuse people think maiming her will mean "you are a simp", well idc I don't also main janet because I'm sort of perverted person worth only dirty minds of ppl(wich virus charlie needs to expose them) but beacuse I love her mechanics, design is well made, her story and origins are awesome, she only got dirty by these nerfs and ignoring the fact she got down BAD once melodie came, with that animation, supercell really showed their treatment of her and she really doesn't deserve that. She really deserves a good buff and rework, she is slowly becoming THE worst brawler like frank, or at least give her a hypercharge to top her
Morale of the story: if you try to be good at everything you mid at everything