Would you recommend this board to me? I weigh 150 size 7.5 boot i enjoy free riding carving down the mountain at high speeds and weaving between trees I am concerned the board may be too wide for my boot size. I do not spend a lot of time in the park so I’m not worried about it’s performance there
Awesome review! I snatched a 152 cm one too and cannot wait to ride it this week. Ive been riding Burton Custom and Flight Attendant for 5 years and wanted something in between and on the more medium side of the freeride category. I have been riding the Never Summer Proto Type 2 in between which has been great but need something stiffer and more stable at higher speed so this gives me everything. Also didnt realize we have the same name!! 😀
Im surprised you went with the 152 but i guess Burton doesnt make it easy like other brands? As a powder board I would think sizing up would still be better, but guess not (beg-int rider here)
I’ve had quite a few boards over the years. This is by far my favorite board I’ve ever been on. I’m 5’8” 170lbs with a size 9 boot. I ride the 156 and it couldn’t be more perfect. My first day on it we got 46” storm with in three days. I was super surprised how well it floats. I do feel that the waist width is perfect for my size 9 boots. I’d imagine people with bigger size boots having some drag.
Just ordered the HTH 160W. 6’1.5” 215lb size 12 boot. Coming from a 2013 Burton Custom 162W Flying V, I am definitely looking forward to what the HTH can do differently than the Flying V. I never felt the Flying V was the right camber for my style of riding and have been putting off getting a new/better board for myself for a very long time.
I'd have gone with the 165w with size 12 and 215 unless you are a total beginner that waist width will be your limit soon + you are quite heavy which also fits 165w
@@MoritzPilz I disagree. I have a 165W and am 6'6 240 with a size 14 boot and can really charge on the 165W and have never had problems with booting out. He is going to love that board. Its stable enough and wide enough to handle heavier riders with large feet for sure.
@@BENJ0OO it's all about the perspective.. physics and geometry can't be tricked. hard charging and a decent carve can be 2 different things. Your us14 will be 33.5-34 cm which means a decent carve requires a 27.8-28.3cm ww board. If you don't go low you can't boot out. That's for sure. I'm running 27.5-28 on us13 as sweet spot. 27.0 is ok but I have to throw the brakes a bit. Learned that lesson over the course of 14 boards, my smallest/narrowest was a 26.1
@@MoritzPilz just don’t want you yucking the guys yum dude. You buy a new board and want hype, not someone telling you you must be a complete beginner to have considered that. I think he’s going to have a great time
@@BENJ0OO I saw a chance to make it even more perfect, switch it up and tweak the last 15% before the chance is over, keep the stoke but with a better fit
Sick board. Really wanted one last season, but they were all sold out by January. I ended up getting a Libtech Cold Brew instead, based on a couple of videos you put up, actually, and a test ride in February. Very different board, but it fills the same niche for me: groomers, trees, and pow when I can get it.
I can't believe my local Burton guide recommended the 152 for me as I'm 5'5 130lbs riding the same length as you! I think the one thing you didn't mention about this board is how quick it changes from edge to edge. I also found it difficult to rest standing on the board as the nose always starts to slip downhill.
I’ve noticed reps usually recommend longer than I like to ride as well, it’s usually preference but seems like they’re going with some standard one rule fits all
@@decembervibes1213 I got the 152, i think it's the right size for me. The board is surprisingly easy to turn and you want the extra length for stability and for float.
Great review. I wrote a Hometown hero last year in Park city. How do you think the capita black snowboard of death matches up to this one. Easier to ride or more aggressive ?
I have one for 3 years now.. basically, since the launch of this model.. and honestly, I don't find any reason to change it.. for my 20-30 days a season.. it damn perfect everywhere on the mountain. Even if I would like to change it.. I don't have any clue where should I go from here.. from it.., my mind cannot conceive that, in this world, there are other/better boards than this one.
Hi TJ great review...stuck between DT and HTH. Watched your reviews on both and currently have a DT. Wanted to know is HTH close to DT in terms of precision, carving and pop with better pow experience? Thanks in advance
This is a fun board but i feel like since about 2017 Burton has really softened the Custom and other all mountain killers. They shapes are very good but for an advanced rider you can snap it like a twig. Thats not being negative its just kinda true. I really like the 160-162 range.
I’ve only got 1 year of snowboarding under my belt and I purchased this because it was the only all mountain board in my size. Hopefully it’s not to bad.
Anyone taken the HTH in full on powder? Curious about setback amount and how the board handles with a heap of setback, seems to have a heck of a range!
Took it a few days ago cruising through almost 2 feet of pow and I think the reference setback stance is perfect. It's set back enough to where you may need to lean just a bit more back but not too much so and I think that gives you a bit more control overall in pow. I wouldn't change the reference stance at all. You could certainly give it more setback though, enough to where you probably wouldn't need to lean back at all even in ultra deep pow!
Check the Union Force's. Super solid binding, and you can find them at $250. They can do everything on the mountain exceptionally and they're bulletproof.
I've been riding the custom for years, I feel like the HTH is like a Custom with float and super easy to get from edge to edge which is particularly useful for tree runs. This board served me well at Revelstoke BC and Whistler BC. It also performs perfectly fine in East coast icy conditions but I would rather ride the Custom in the East.
152? This is not a park board, I ride it in a 156 and it really excels in all mountain, powder slaying. It feels very comfortable and is not a plank. Probably my fav board now.
Hey I’d like your opinion on this board, I’m new to snowboarding, this is my second season so I don’t spend a lot of time in the park I found I really enjoy free riding around the mountain just carving and weaving through trees I like to get a lot of speed I ride kinda hard and fast, would you recommend this board to me? With a Size 7.5 boot it seems like the board is a little wide for that but I don’t know much
Also I was thinking about getting it in a 156 or 160 seems like the longer boards are more effective for higher speeds I like hitting jumps and doing butters and I come from riding a 150cm Burton instigator
idk about the stratos, but from all the information I have gathered so far the HTH should perform excellent in tree runs and in pow. for groomers its still very much alright and does a decent job, but you really feel its power when it cuts through chunder/messy snow
Just ordered a 160 and I am 185 lbs /83 kg and 6’1”-6’2”/187 cm. Size 10 burton ions. Were a bit concerned about carvability, been coming of pretty wide boards in the past. But tested the 156w and liked a lot but wanted it longer and stiffer. So the 160 will probably hit the spot with only 2 in unnoticeable mm in difference.
@@trevorf1838 Basically because I tried the 156 and it is mere 2 mm wider. Also, there is no need to ride a bulkier board than needed. Like I said, been riding wider boards for no reason really, with the only effect of being less nimble and slower edge to edge. Been riding it for 10 days now and no drag-issues what so ever 🙏 And I just look long to for turning on this damn board. It is soo much fun. Haven’t been enjoying myself this much just turning and carving in years.
@@TheLushund i dont think you need a wide board until you hit a US11 in most cases - im 83kg, 176cm and have been riding a Capita Supernova 159 for years, it goes hard but its crap in anythingh more than 1 foot of snow as its pure camber. just bought this in a 156 - ready for a trip to Lake Louise and Panorama in Jan.... looking forward to seeing what it can do - wanted a board that can charge hard, carve, nimble enough through trees but take 2+ feet of pow..... im excited.
158, but that doesn't exist. 156 for tight threes or 160 for more open terrain. The 156 might fold a little bit on you, but the 160 is considerably stiffer so it will be more board to handle for super tight spaces.
Definitely go with the 160. The HTH is pretty soft between the feet and your size 11’s will steer the 160 very well. Since the HTH has the rocker tip, I think you’ll want the longer camber contact on the 160 than the 156.
I’m concerned this board at 152mm waist width is too wide for size 7.5 boots I’ve found on a sizing chart for my boot size I shouldn’t go over a 145mm waist width board
I've been riding the custom for years, I feel like the HTH is like a Custom with float and super easy to get from edge to edge which is particularly useful for tree runs. This board served me well at Revelstoke BC and Whistler BC. It also performs perfectly fine in East coast icy conditions but I would rather ride the Custom in the East.
The HTH is pretty soft between the feet but stiffed at the tip/tail where the Custom is pretty much the same stiffness throughout the entire board. I just received my HTH, coming from a 2013 Burton Custom Flying V 162W (which is just a TERRIBLE board and I should have gotten the regular camber 10 years ago) , but I was contemplating the Burton Custom 162W. I decided on the HTH for the directional shape (I only ride switch/goofy on cat tracks) and I love to veer off the main path and hit the softer snow/trees. The HTH is quite soft between the feet. You may like that or you may not. I think the Custom would give you more stability at higher speeds, but the HTH just seemed like a more fun board for me. Having now set up my HTH, I definitely think it was the right choice for me, but the Custom is also an amazing choice. I don’t think you can make a wrong decision going with one over the other. Just, please, don’t get the freaking Flying V!
You're probably looking at a 160. Note that a binding with a conventional disk will allow a narrow stance than an EST. If that seems big, you might want to look at a different (stiffer) board.
Somewhat, I'm 5'8" and 175lbs and went with the 156 but haven't rode it yet. It's got a medium flex through the middle. I've heard the 160 is considerably beefier. If you've got small feet you might not want that width in hard/frozen conditions though.
@@TheDerekHydedid you ride it yet? I’m planning to pick one up tomorrow. Double checking the size. I’m 5’8”, 129lbs, and was planning to get the 152. Thoughts?
@@JonGPxl Yeah, that's probably the right size. The 156 holds an edge really well, feels like it has more effective edge than advertised. In pow it has a decent glide, but the nose doesn't float as well as I thought it would, you do have to get your weight back on the tail.
Sickest board I’ve ever ridden! Got the 156W and would give it a 9/10 on carving rather…sick turning experience! The pop is off the chart too!
Looking at the same size board. What boot and lbs are you if you don’t mind sharing.
@@reubenrieder boots size 11.5 & 170 lbs
Would you recommend this board to me? I weigh 150 size 7.5 boot i enjoy free riding carving down the mountain at high speeds and weaving between trees I am concerned the board may be too wide for my boot size. I do not spend a lot of time in the park so I’m not worried about it’s performance there
@@wyattparks8884 for your specs, I would size down to 152; plenty of float and you will thrive through trees. This is a killer board, man
Totally. Just had my first weekend on it. It’s such a smooth ride. Loves to carve and it goes fast! A board that gives you a ton of confidence.
Awesome review! I snatched a 152 cm one too and cannot wait to ride it this week. Ive been riding Burton Custom and Flight Attendant for 5 years and wanted something in between and on the more medium side of the freeride category. I have been riding the Never Summer Proto Type 2 in between which has been great but need something stiffer and more stable at higher speed so this gives me everything. Also didnt realize we have the same name!! 😀
Curious to know if you’ll do an updated review of the Kazu. Just love watching you ride boards to verify I want it that much more 😅
Im surprised you went with the 152 but i guess Burton doesnt make it easy like other brands? As a powder board I would think sizing up would still be better, but guess not (beg-int rider here)
I’ve had quite a few boards over the years. This is by far my favorite board I’ve ever been on. I’m 5’8” 170lbs with a size 9 boot. I ride the 156 and it couldn’t be more perfect. My first day on it we got 46” storm with in three days. I was super surprised how well it floats. I do feel that the waist width is perfect for my size 9 boots. I’d imagine people with bigger size boots having some drag.
Try a Shadowban
Never mind. 9 is a bit small.
I’m 5’10, 175 lbs. I’m paying Off a 156W. I have a 3-D Fish for Big Pow and my K2 87 has been repurposed as my Rock Board.
I’m 5’8” 129lbs. 9.5 boot size.. Was thinking of getting the 152. 156 might be a bit big? TJ seems to be ok on the 152. Thoughts?
Just ordered the HTH 160W. 6’1.5” 215lb size 12 boot. Coming from a 2013 Burton Custom 162W Flying V, I am definitely looking forward to what the HTH can do differently than the Flying V. I never felt the Flying V was the right camber for my style of riding and have been putting off getting a new/better board for myself for a very long time.
I'd have gone with the 165w with size 12 and 215 unless you are a total beginner that waist width will be your limit soon + you are quite heavy which also fits 165w
@@MoritzPilz I disagree. I have a 165W and am 6'6 240 with a size 14 boot and can really charge on the 165W and have never had problems with booting out. He is going to love that board. Its stable enough and wide enough to handle heavier riders with large feet for sure.
@@BENJ0OO it's all about the perspective.. physics and geometry can't be tricked. hard charging and a decent carve can be 2 different things. Your us14 will be 33.5-34 cm which means a decent carve requires a 27.8-28.3cm ww board. If you don't go low you can't boot out. That's for sure. I'm running 27.5-28 on us13 as sweet spot. 27.0 is ok but I have to throw the brakes a bit. Learned that lesson over the course of 14 boards, my smallest/narrowest was a 26.1
@@MoritzPilz just don’t want you yucking the guys yum dude. You buy a new board and want hype, not someone telling you you must be a complete beginner to have considered that. I think he’s going to have a great time
@@BENJ0OO I saw a chance to make it even more perfect, switch it up and tweak the last 15% before the chance is over, keep the stoke but with a better fit
Sick board. Really wanted one last season, but they were all sold out by January. I ended up getting a Libtech Cold Brew instead, based on a couple of videos you put up, actually, and a test ride in February. Very different board, but it fills the same niche for me: groomers, trees, and pow when I can get it.
Just ordered my 156w because of this video. Best review and this guy can ride too
I can't believe my local Burton guide recommended the 152 for me as I'm 5'5 130lbs riding the same length as you! I think the one thing you didn't mention about this board is how quick it changes from edge to edge. I also found it difficult to rest standing on the board as the nose always starts to slip downhill.
I’ve noticed reps usually recommend longer than I like to ride as well, it’s usually preference but seems like they’re going with some standard one rule fits all
Do you think a 148 would fit you better? I’m basically the same spec as you and is thinking about buying this board.
@@decembervibes1213 I got the 152, i think it's the right size for me. The board is surprisingly easy to turn and you want the extra length for stability and for float.
Hmmm okay because I’m currently riding a Yes Basic 149. I thought a 152 would be too long for me.
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Great review. I wrote a Hometown hero last year in Park city.
How do you think the capita black snowboard of death matches up to this one. Easier to ride or more aggressive ?
Loving the channel. Keep it coming. HTH vs Jones Stratos vs Lib Tech Rig. Who ya got and why?
I have one for 3 years now.. basically, since the launch of this model.. and honestly, I don't find any reason to change it.. for my 20-30 days a season.. it damn perfect everywhere on the mountain. Even if I would like to change it.. I don't have any clue where should I go from here.. from it.., my mind cannot conceive that, in this world, there are other/better boards than this one.
It’s a Christmas gift so hopefully the child will love it
Very professional, informative and great review thanks 🤙
This or Lib Tech Dynamo? Thoughts?
That blue looks so good
Did you ride this board at the reference points in the park or did you ride it more centered? thanks
Love to hear your thoughts on the similarities and differences with the Daily driver!
Hi, I am 182lbs, 5'11' and 10.5US boot size. Do you think 156 runs well for me? Thank you
Hi TJ great review...stuck between DT and HTH. Watched your reviews on both and currently have a DT. Wanted to know is HTH close to DT in terms of precision, carving and pop with better pow experience? Thanks in advance
Sick, just what I wanted to hear. Also, that front sev. 🔥
This is a fun board but i feel like since about 2017 Burton has really softened the Custom and other all mountain killers. They shapes are very good but for an advanced rider you can snap it like a twig. Thats not being negative its just kinda true. I really like the 160-162 range.
Hey TJ, what was you stance width and binding angles on this board? Wondering since we have the exactly same height and body build. Thanks!
What would you suggest as a board like the Hometown Hero, but with better edgehold?
Sweet vid! just wondering if an aviator review is coming?
Would love to see a review of the Jones Aviator 2.0! Happy to see u at mammoth tho, my home mountain
great vid! but how does the HTH compare to the new territory manager
I’ve only got 1 year of snowboarding under my belt and I purchased this because it was the only all mountain board in my size. Hopefully it’s not to bad.
as a beginner, it might feel a little stiff under you and a little catchy at times.. but, in truth, it is neither.
How is this compared to like the lib tech cold brew? Which should be the best fit for a happy intermediate that picks up fairly quick?
TJ, what are a couple differences in flex compared to the Flight Attendant?
Will you be testing the straight chuter anytime soon?
Anyone taken the HTH in full on powder? Curious about setback amount and how the board handles with a heap of setback, seems to have a heck of a range!
Took it a few days ago cruising through almost 2 feet of pow and I think the reference setback stance is perfect. It's set back enough to where you may need to lean just a bit more back but not too much so and I think that gives you a bit more control overall in pow. I wouldn't change the reference stance at all.
You could certainly give it more setback though, enough to where you probably wouldn't need to lean back at all even in ultra deep pow!
What’s your favorite union binding in the mid 200s?
Check the Union Force's. Super solid binding, and you can find them at $250. They can do everything on the mountain exceptionally and they're bulletproof.
Solid spin on that front 7👌
Sick board! You should try do the Burton process camber!
Hey TJ, could you do a review on the Burton 3D daily driver?
Love a good solid mid flex slightly directional all mountain boards…
This is a fun one
What difference does this have compared to the custom. Both are camber,all mountain,directional,tapered,and versatile
Custom isn’t tapered. And this has some rocker. Custom is all camber.
hth performs better in pow and is quite a bit more directional
I've been riding the custom for years, I feel like the HTH is like a Custom with float and super easy to get from edge to edge which is particularly useful for tree runs. This board served me well at Revelstoke BC and Whistler BC. It also performs perfectly fine in East coast icy conditions but I would rather ride the Custom in the East.
152? This is not a park board, I ride it in a 156 and it really excels in all mountain, powder slaying. It feels very comfortable and is not a plank. Probably my fav board now.
Hey I’d like your opinion on this board, I’m new to snowboarding, this is my second season so I don’t spend a lot of time in the park I found I really enjoy free riding around the mountain just carving and weaving through trees I like to get a lot of speed I ride kinda hard and fast, would you recommend this board to me? With a Size 7.5 boot it seems like the board is a little wide for that but I don’t know much
Also I was thinking about getting it in a 156 or 160 seems like the longer boards are more effective for higher speeds I like hitting jumps and doing butters and I come from riding a 150cm Burton instigator
Great review. Would you grab a HTH or Jones Stratos to ride groomers trees and pow? Why?
idk about the stratos, but from all the information I have gathered so far the HTH should perform excellent in tree runs and in pow. for groomers its still very much alright and does a decent job, but you really feel its power when it cuts through chunder/messy snow
Sick board, cant wait for some blizzards to come.
same
Whats the biggest different vs the flight attendant?
Just ordered a 160 and I am 185 lbs /83 kg and 6’1”-6’2”/187 cm. Size 10 burton ions.
Were a bit concerned about carvability, been coming of pretty wide boards in the past.
But tested the 156w and liked a lot but wanted it longer and stiffer. So the 160 will probably hit the spot with only 2 in unnoticeable mm in difference.
Why didn't you get the 160W?
@@trevorf1838 Basically because I tried the 156 and it is mere 2 mm wider.
Also, there is no need to ride a bulkier board than needed. Like I said, been riding wider boards for no reason really, with the only effect of being less nimble and slower edge to edge.
Been riding it for 10 days now and no drag-issues what so ever 🙏
And I just look long to for turning on this damn board. It is soo much fun. Haven’t been enjoying myself this much just turning and carving in years.
@@TheLushund i dont think you need a wide board until you hit a US11 in most cases - im 83kg, 176cm and have been riding a Capita Supernova 159 for years, it goes hard but its crap in anythingh more than 1 foot of snow as its pure camber. just bought this in a 156 - ready for a trip to Lake Louise and Panorama in Jan.... looking forward to seeing what it can do - wanted a board that can charge hard, carve, nimble enough through trees but take 2+ feet of pow..... im excited.
so stoked this comes in a split
Why just.. why
@@nollie632 because splitboarding is a vibe and this board rocks
is there a non-burton equivalent of this board ?
Can you please test the Burton blossom 2023?
Hi 74kg 152 is good for me? I ride powder
I thought hth was relatively wide
yo can you review the 2023 burton cartographer?
Can someone help with a board size recommendation? I'm 6ft 175lbs and size 11 shoe size. Not sure where to start when picking a board size.
158, but that doesn't exist. 156 for tight threes or 160 for more open terrain. The 156 might fold a little bit on you, but the 160 is considerably stiffer so it will be more board to handle for super tight spaces.
Definitely go with the 160. The HTH is pretty soft between the feet and your size 11’s will steer the 160 very well. Since the HTH has the rocker tip, I think you’ll want the longer camber contact on the 160 than the 156.
I’m concerned this board at 152mm waist width is too wide for size 7.5 boots I’ve found on a sizing chart for my boot size I shouldn’t go over a 145mm waist width board
You mean 252 mm WW, and it's fine. I'm a size 8 and unless it's icy I prefer 260 or more. I've got a 280 WW for pow.
Nice riding
thank you
probably the most popular board in NST! requires freestyle ability in freeride circumstance.
TJ is my hero 🙌 hahaha 😂
This or the Never Summer Harpoon?
How would you compare the Hometown Hero with the Custom?
I've been riding the custom for years, I feel like the HTH is like a Custom with float and super easy to get from edge to edge which is particularly useful for tree runs. This board served me well at Revelstoke BC and Whistler BC. It also performs perfectly fine in East coast icy conditions but I would rather ride the Custom in the East.
The HTH is pretty soft between the feet but stiffed at the tip/tail where the Custom is pretty much the same stiffness throughout the entire board. I just received my HTH, coming from a 2013 Burton Custom Flying V 162W (which is just a TERRIBLE board and I should have gotten the regular camber 10 years ago) , but I was contemplating the Burton Custom 162W. I decided on the HTH for the directional shape (I only ride switch/goofy on cat tracks) and I love to veer off the main path and hit the softer snow/trees. The HTH is quite soft between the feet. You may like that or you may not. I think the Custom would give you more stability at higher speeds, but the HTH just seemed like a more fun board for me. Having now set up my HTH, I definitely think it was the right choice for me, but the Custom is also an amazing choice. I don’t think you can make a wrong decision going with one over the other. Just, please, don’t get the freaking Flying V!
free thinker review?
I’m 5’6” 215lbs, what size should I go with?
You're probably looking at a 160. Note that a binding with a conventional disk will allow a narrow stance than an EST. If that seems big, you might want to look at a different (stiffer) board.
@@TheDerekHyde are you basing that off of Burtons recommended sizing?
Somewhat, I'm 5'8" and 175lbs and went with the 156 but haven't rode it yet. It's got a medium flex through the middle. I've heard the 160 is considerably beefier. If you've got small feet you might not want that width in hard/frozen conditions though.
@@TheDerekHydedid you ride it yet? I’m planning to pick one up tomorrow. Double checking the size. I’m 5’8”, 129lbs, and was planning to get the 152. Thoughts?
@@JonGPxl Yeah, that's probably the right size. The 156 holds an edge really well, feels like it has more effective edge than advertised. In pow it has a decent glide, but the nose doesn't float as well as I thought it would, you do have to get your weight back on the tail.
Hamburgor👍
Sweet
This one’s rad
bro why are you goofy in the intro/park section of the video?😂
think he is riding switch. the front of the board looks a little short.
2025 165w coming up this year
for the big dawgs
Audio is fucken me up
is there an issue with the audio?
@@BoardArchive it came across super distorted for me? Other videos sounded normal but could just be me. Watched the whole vid anyways 😂
@@MustyRusty5 haha well thanks man. That is strange it sounds good on my end, I wonder if we will see more comments about it. Sorry about that
@@BoardArchive all good keep up the great reviews!
Audio is fine for me.
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