Changeability of Strange Dream - Track 2: Dream of Arcadia

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @painovoimaton
    @painovoimaton 10 лет назад +183

    Dream of Arcadia is one of the most beautiful things ZUN has ever made.
    I love this song.

  • @ガハハ-m1w
    @ガハハ-m1w 9 месяцев назад +12

    暗い雰囲気の中に美しさが溢れてるこの曲ほんと好き

  • @edgelord6205
    @edgelord6205 10 лет назад +308

    ZUN is fucking talented

    • @rebeccascarlet4305
      @rebeccascarlet4305 6 лет назад +3

      i thought that said retarded instead of talented

    • @ryful_z3
      @ryful_z3 5 лет назад +8

      Prado still self taught

  • @BossDabei
    @BossDabei 7 лет назад +215

    The original title in Japanese is "華胥の夢", meaning "the dream of Huaxu"(kasho in Japanese pronunciation). The nation of Huaxu in Chinese legend/mythology is a ancient utopia. Legend has it that Huangdi once had a dream of traveling there and learned the knowledge of ruling a country. He kept the knowledge after awakening, then use them to govern the whole country. The story mention above can be found in Liezi, Huangdi chapter.

    • @user-jw8jn7lh8c
      @user-jw8jn7lh8c 4 года назад +1

      thats Chinese tho...

    • @FrogmaskMusic
      @FrogmaskMusic 4 года назад +17

      @@user-jw8jn7lh8c ...You do realize that Japanese kanji and traditional Chinese share characters (and because of that, concepts, characters, and meanings), right?

    • @user-jw8jn7lh8c
      @user-jw8jn7lh8c 4 года назад +1

      @@FrogmaskMusic oh, didnt know that.

    • @sobersplash6172
      @sobersplash6172 4 года назад +13

      @@user-jw8jn7lh8c ZUN's used concepts from China before

    • @ephraimium6755
      @ephraimium6755 4 года назад +13

      @@sobersplash6172 like Meiling and LolK story

  • @DetrimentalDerivation
    @DetrimentalDerivation 6 лет назад +150

    Props to the translator.
    How many translators would know of a proper noun for "ideal land\perfect country​" in the the English lexicon that isn't "utopia"?

    • @julia970y6v
      @julia970y6v 6 лет назад +10

      The Japanese word/phrase used seems pretty obscure too.

    • @MisterHeroman
      @MisterHeroman 5 лет назад +14

      Arcadia isn't that obscure.

    • @sobersplash6172
      @sobersplash6172 4 года назад +4

      Arcadia's known enough that most people can understand that it's meant to stand in for a utopia

    • @DetrimentalDerivation
      @DetrimentalDerivation 4 года назад +12

      @@sobersplash6172 Could just be me, then. I knew of Arcadia as a region of the Peloponnese, but not for being compared to utopia.

    • @gmestanley2214
      @gmestanley2214 3 года назад +7

      I didn't know of that meaning either. Although I'm also not a native English speaker.

  • @Topaz4293
    @Topaz4293 12 лет назад +405

    Yuuka in cannon is NOT a sadist or a homicidal maniac as people think her to be. Go and play Lotus Land story and actually READ. In cannon Yuuka is calm and reserved and actually one of the nicer youkai out there. Yell at me all you want but I'll refer you to Touhou 4, or Touhou 9 Phantasmagoira of Flower View. Reading the wiki may also help as it has the translated script.

    • @bobby31723
      @bobby31723 4 года назад +169

      @Mana Wata "Yuuka is a troublesome and playful youkai. She holds strength in high regard and likes to look down on and toy with those weaker than her. She's sharp-witted and thoroughly enjoys rubbing people the wrong way through various methods, ranging from simply joking around with her opponent to (falsely) claiming credit for causing an incident"
      Her sadistic side was way overblown by fanon , but she is still a bully sometimes .

    • @hatatehimekaidoutheemoteng3791
      @hatatehimekaidoutheemoteng3791 4 года назад +54

      @Mana Wata Yuuka was probably in her edgy angsty teen years during the pc 98 era

    • @nannyfunaria657
      @nannyfunaria657 4 года назад +29

      Yeah, that's true! But actually, Yuuka COULD be a maniac sadist person, how?
      Try to destroy her sunflower garden

    • @ludwinapen7341
      @ludwinapen7341 4 года назад +44

      @@nannyfunaria657 Bro, You Will do the same if someone destroy anything you love

    • @cereza065
      @cereza065 4 года назад +75

      As much as I love Yuuka and hate her sadistic portrayal, she wasn't exactly calm in lotus land story... then again if someone breaks into your house, wakes you up and starts beating the shit out of you with a stick and throwing balls at you you'd probably be angry at them too.
      In ms she was also edgy but most of her profiles describe her as having a peculiar sense of humour so I guess she as just trying to joke with "genocide is just another game"

  • @TheLugiaSong
    @TheLugiaSong 8 лет назад +107

    Dude this song sounds so nostalgic, especially 1:31 ...
    I get chills serious It reminds me of when I was younger, being at my grans super warm cosy house and night, and the mysterious world of fantasy that seemed to exist so far away when you were a kid yet you seemed so close to. Ahh....

    • @sarahage3828
      @sarahage3828 7 лет назад +2

      Mint Mochi is it like "what the hell is behind that wall" kind of thing?

    • @TheLugiaSong
      @TheLugiaSong 6 лет назад +4

      hot perhaps! I don't know how to describe it really.

    • @SpecialKapson
      @SpecialKapson 4 года назад +1

      I feel you

  • @iwageni1785
    @iwageni1785 6 лет назад +27

    With this kind of music, i can't imagine the epicness of Hua-hsu Kingdom the yellow emperor saw in his dream

  • @Patrick11nf
    @Patrick11nf 11 лет назад +39

    She may be merciless when angry. She is a proud youkai and likes to show it, like by scaring/intimidating others. As seen in MS and PoFV, she probably enjoys taking battles very slowly to enjoy it more, while in LLS she was at the merciless side (for obvious reasons).
    While the Akyuu article is canon, it's kind of strange how parts of it contradicts each other.

    • @dadaeeaeeadada3301
      @dadaeeaeeadada3301 4 года назад +8

      can you truly trust what the akyuu article said ?

    • @cereza065
      @cereza065 2 года назад +5

      The whole point of touhou is that everything you see is said by unreliable narrators, leaving everything up for the players to interpret.
      I personally imagine she's usually calm and polite, but is still a powerful yokai and someone proud to show off (aka, teasing/bullying) who may or may not lack the social skills/charisma of other yokai, which gives her an unnerving aura even when trying to act nice

  • @Patrick11nf
    @Patrick11nf 11 лет назад +73

    True, angering Yuuka wouldn't be a good idea.
    About pc98 canon, it is really strange how it works. From some translated interviews or questions, ZUN has often stated that the pc98 canon should be ignored, but still some ingame dialogues makes it questionable, like how Alice is confused that Reimu doesn't remember her and the PoFV and PMiSS story implies that Reimu defeated Yuuka before. (Then the small reference from CoLA when Reimu says that the shrine was taken over by an evil spirit once.)

    • @gypsysprite4824
      @gypsysprite4824 4 года назад +21

      i believe nowadays h consensus is: pc98 shit is canon so long as it doesn't contradict windows shit

    • @Shivvorz
      @Shivvorz 4 года назад +19

      Afaik Zun's attitude to pc98 cannon is "Unless if conflicts with Windows era canonicity, then its true, its not important anyways"
      I do wish some more stuff return from PC98 (Shinki and Mima comes to mind)

    • @gypsysprite4824
      @gypsysprite4824 4 года назад +11

      mima should never have been removed fully to begin with
      like
      mima was either second or third most important character in the pc-98 continuity (competing for second most important with Marisa), appearing in the same amount of games as Marisa

    • @KotMatrosk1n
      @KotMatrosk1n 4 года назад +14

      ​@@Shivvorz "Ignore PC98 parts" comes from 2003-ZUN, in his interviews after EoSD release. The phrase "PC98 is canon as long as it doesn't contradict Windows" is from 2013 interview. I believe ZUN's attitude has changed, and it can be assumed why.
      In 2003, if the PC98 storyline was to be continued, most of the Windows players wouldn't have been aware of the previous story and there was no way for them to find out. I don't think there was a Touhou Wiki in 2003, you know, nothing like what we have today. Also not nearly as much people had internet access. In 2013, these concerns were obviously obsolete, so ZUN's approach towards PC-98 became more inclusive.

    • @KotMatrosk1n
      @KotMatrosk1n 4 года назад +6

      @GypsySprite I believe Mima won't ever come back, because she became on of the inspirations for Yukari and "got reworked" into her. But that's just my assumption.

  • @AmbassadorBreadloaf
    @AmbassadorBreadloaf 7 лет назад +66

    I love this song, so I wrote some lyrics to go with it! It took me a long time to make them and I'm very proud of them, so I'd be happy if people gave me some feedback. Enjoy!
    Edit: First paragraph was cringe, so I changed it.
    *What The Lighthouse Can't See ~ Weather Victim*
    0:00 Look out to the great sea,
    Where the lighthouse can't see.
    Ever-fixed and on-looking
    Watching the tempest rage on*
    (*a reference to Shakespeare's sonnet 116, and the inspiration for these lyrics. No, I don't actually like poetry.)
    0:07 Searching for some order
    On sea's and land's border,
    Filled with questions
    With no answers yet.
    ---------------(Loops back here)---------------
    0:34 Hunter of the sea,
    I call out to thee.
    The air is thick and thee hath no path to take.
    0:48 Ocean warrior,
    Think of the horror
    To look up from what you once looked down into
    1:03 Hear;
    I hope you are near.
    The sky is filled with water and your bark* is weak.
    (*bark=ship, boat. I only know it thanks to the aforementioned sonnet, haha!)
    1:16 Creatures of the sea,
    If you can hear me,
    I pray you grant guidance to the hunter.
    1:32 Look out to the great sea,
    Where the lighthouse can't see.
    Ever-fixed and onlooking,
    Watching the sun falling down.
    1:39 Searching for some order
    On sea's and land's border,
    Filled with fluster
    With no answers still.
    1:46 Victim of the weather
    In the water's nether,
    With no mark and with no trace
    Will be found by no living man.
    1:53 All the forgotten men
    And the reborn draugen,*
    Dwell the sea
    And search for land again.
    (*draugen=undead drowned fishermen, basically)
    2:20 Hunter of the sea,
    I call out to thee.
    The air is thick and thee hath no path to take.
    2:34 Ocean warrior,
    Think of the horror
    To look up from what you once looked down into.
    2:49 Hear;
    I hope you are near.
    The air is filled with water and your bark is weak.
    3:02 Creatures of the sea,
    If you can hear me,
    I pray you grant guidance to the hunter.
    3:18 Look out to the great sea,
    Where the lighthouse can't see.
    Ever-fixed and on-looking,
    Watching the sun falling down.
    3:25 Searching for some order
    On sea's and land's border,
    Filled with fluster
    With no answers still.
    3:32 Victim of the weather,
    In the water's nether,
    With no mark and with no trace
    Will be found by no living man.
    3:39 All the forgotten men
    And the reborn draugen,
    Dwell the sea
    And search for land again.
    3:46 What the lighthouse can't see;
    It is what could not be.
    A great whirlwind in my thoughts
    Causing chaos in my sorrows.
    3:53 Searching for some order
    On sea's and land's border.
    Filled with anguish
    With no answers still.
    4:00 Look out to the great sea,
    Where the lighthouse can't see.
    Ever-fixed and on-looking,
    Watching the tempest rage on.
    4:07 Searching for some order,
    On sea's and land's border.
    Filled with questions
    With no answers yet...
    ... ... ...
    (Loop)

    • @ivatigerfox2548
      @ivatigerfox2548 7 лет назад +1

      thou must sing it for us

    • @AmbassadorBreadloaf
      @AmbassadorBreadloaf 7 лет назад

      Thanks for the compliment, but I don't like singing for others.

    • @ivatigerfox2548
      @ivatigerfox2548 7 лет назад +5

      oh damn

    • @Kopoane
      @Kopoane 7 лет назад +5

      Those are some pretty poetic lyrics that I think complement the track, good job.

    • @bouteilledeau1463
      @bouteilledeau1463 7 лет назад +4

      You completed the set to make my day awesome. Thanks!! =b

  • @eriotowa9028
    @eriotowa9028 10 лет назад +36

    Beautiful music for sure ^_^

  • @blara2401
    @blara2401 9 лет назад +31

    The start of this song sounds a lot like the Hungarian Sonata.

  • @bouteilledeau1463
    @bouteilledeau1463 9 лет назад +33

    This... Add some well made lyrics for love songs and you got the most sensitive love song ever. Not to be used in radio, though.

    • @AmbassadorBreadloaf
      @AmbassadorBreadloaf 7 лет назад +5

      I made lyrics for it, but it's not about love.

    • @ivatigerfox2548
      @ivatigerfox2548 7 лет назад

      I wanna see it

    • @AmbassadorBreadloaf
      @AmbassadorBreadloaf 7 лет назад

      It's one of the most recent comments on this video, so they're not hard to find. Sorting the comments so the newest comes first is your best friend.
      Do keep in mind that they are very poetic. I dunno how it is with you, but I know some people who don't like poetic stuff.

    • @ivatigerfox2548
      @ivatigerfox2548 7 лет назад

      I like to think of myself as a very poetic person~

    • @IceWrenSolstice
      @IceWrenSolstice 7 лет назад

      I also came up with one. I don't know if I'm a good lyrics writer, but one has to start somewhere. It's not a love song, but kinda tragic.

  • @gynesiseffect907
    @gynesiseffect907 2 года назад +8

    This is the type of music you would hear in those really old RPG Maker Games... and I love it.

  • @SHinierthennyourforehead
    @SHinierthennyourforehead 2 года назад +2

    Oh my goodness... I love this so much... I love ZUN'S album music... they're so nostalgic , calm and in general nice to listen to and good for studying too ( i think)

  • @bobbatron808
    @bobbatron808 4 года назад +7

    I just love how 80's mythical it sounds

  • @Kageaki1998
    @Kageaki1998 12 лет назад +11

    Nah, she wasn't bored, she just wanted to try out her magic on something. Makai then looked like a good plan.

  • @prismus6520
    @prismus6520 7 лет назад +8

    I might use this as a lullaby. Really. So soothing and really good to listen to.
    The remix of this is TAA is so heart-pounding and a bit of fast, but I like this and the TAA versh all the same.

  • @user-zo1wv8cx5s
    @user-zo1wv8cx5s 2 года назад +2

    This is one of those ones that sound nostalgic, it had me in tears

  • @Kageaki1998
    @Kageaki1998 12 лет назад +40

    "Genocide is just another game."
    Yep, totally nice.

  • @spaghettiking7312
    @spaghettiking7312 Год назад +3

    Emotional and serene, such is my feelings toward Yuuka.

  • @china9544
    @china9544 6 лет назад +5

    Spring waltz????? So beautiful!!!

  • @sidni0
    @sidni0 Год назад

    This is maybe my favourite song Zun composed, yet I never seem to remember it once I stop listening to it.

  • @whatevertheysaid5550
    @whatevertheysaid5550 4 года назад +6

    I'm having Circus Reverie vibes...

  • @emilymyers8115
    @emilymyers8115 4 года назад +8

    When I first saw this picture of Yuuka, it reminded me of that one character named Draco Centauros, from that one videogame called "Puyo Puyo"! Have you ever heard of that game? Do you think Yuuka looks a lot like Draco Centauros?

    • @KogasaTatara514
      @KogasaTatara514 3 года назад +6

      I just looked it up, and.. Yeah, I actually do see it. Looks like a mix of Yuuka and Junko.

  • @StinkBugWizard
    @StinkBugWizard 2 года назад +1

    Most natural-sounding guitar in ZUN music.

  • @jesusrobles2756
    @jesusrobles2756 4 года назад +4

    This sounds like a small part of Richard Claiderman's "Ballad for Adeline" :D

  • @RadiantAeon
    @RadiantAeon 11 лет назад +5

    "In a few hours, you'll become a mist of atoms. ♥ I thought it'd be neat if that actually happened. ♥"

  • @Thunderwalker87
    @Thunderwalker87 4 года назад +1

    I love this so much.

  • @maxx9137
    @maxx9137 4 года назад +1

    this is amazing!!

  • @kaleidosprungy3199
    @kaleidosprungy3199 3 года назад

    idk why, i think this is my favorite song from ZUN

  • @Zeta235-U
    @Zeta235-U 9 месяцев назад +1

    can someone explain why is there lyrics on the spotify of this song?

  • @AndreaForlani
    @AndreaForlani 11 лет назад +11

    "Genocide is just another game. It doesn't matter if it's humans or Makai residents." Yuuka Kazami, [Mystic Square]
    Yeah yeah, go ahead with your idiocy...

  • @Hakkuden
    @Hakkuden 6 лет назад +5

    Isn't this based on a Seihou music? I couldn't tell which one.... though some parts sound like Shuusou Gyoku's Stage 5 Boss, but it's not really that.

  • @ivatigerfox2548
    @ivatigerfox2548 7 лет назад +3

    Sounds a bit like Lovely Mound of Cherry Blossoms

  • @nerdfromhell
    @nerdfromhell 11 лет назад +3

    On a side note, when's the last time ANYTHING has died in gensokyo?
    Seriously, I mean even the fairies are listed to regenerate (Still wonder about those zombie fairies...) For all the talk about one character killing or threatning, it's funny to see the spell card system so widely used. (Yes, this is not counting anything from any of the written media.)
    (Please, don't bite the bait)

  • @moonlit_maestro
    @moonlit_maestro 2 года назад +2

    Yuuka did nothing wrong she just wanted to go back to BED.

  • @emishimaru-sama6449
    @emishimaru-sama6449 6 лет назад +1

    Feels like It's depressing..

  • @dualwieldroxas358
    @dualwieldroxas358 11 лет назад +1

    Isn't she also considered the "strongest of youkai"?

  • @ultimadragon88
    @ultimadragon88 11 лет назад

    but don't forget MS, where she basically threatened to erase everyone from existance nonchalantly.

  • @geeseispluralforgoose
    @geeseispluralforgoose Год назад

    Horror and mystique

  • @BurstFlare
    @BurstFlare 12 лет назад +4

    All this talk about Yuuka and it ain't even her theme XD

    • @starflash7076
      @starflash7076 4 года назад +3

      Its because of the video's picture

  • @RadiantAeon
    @RadiantAeon 11 лет назад

    Well she still will harm you if you hurt one of her flowers...

  • @komkom_2676
    @komkom_2676 4 года назад

    何故に幽香?

  • @M1u2S4i8K
    @M1u2S4i8K 12 лет назад

    Is'nt this Piece based on Marie's and Gates' Theme from Shūsō Gyoku?

  • @Kageaki1998
    @Kageaki1998 12 лет назад

    We're not talking about Yukari here.

  • @ShaffySwitcher
    @ShaffySwitcher 3 года назад +1

    Wtf how, circus reverie????

  • @HaruDaRabbit
    @HaruDaRabbit 4 года назад

    arcadia bay? (im probably the only one who gets the reference)

  • @Kageaki1998
    @Kageaki1998 12 лет назад +7

    Dude, just stop and get your facts straight. CANON stuff will help, I guess.
    Inb4 everyone's youkai, youkai eat people, hurrr durrr, oh, Raymoo, Marisa and especially Keine aren't youkai, but somewhat kill people on daily basis anyway, herp derp.

    • @SerpentYoukai
      @SerpentYoukai 2 года назад

      What in Makai do you mean by that?

  • @kevinmo3015
    @kevinmo3015 8 лет назад

    It sounds like circus revieve

  • @Alyssa_Swift
    @Alyssa_Swift 12 лет назад

    Reimu and Marisa do come off as jerks. I don't know how to explain it.

  • @huuname167
    @huuname167 2 года назад

    Hungarian sonata