After every post match conference he blathers on talking out of his arse safe in the knowledge that there's nobody at our club who's got the balls to sack him. Shameful. 🤬
Bas options in January will make no difference to Dyche. He will pick his favourite players every time if they are available whether fit/injured/out of form or all 3.
Baz, Dyche has options to change things but sadly he will not. The football is dreadful, 1 goal scored in 4 games against poor/ average teams. It's flat due to the dreadful football and people worrying about us not getting 3 points against poor teams and the tough fixtures we have coming in December. Can't wait for Dyche to be sacked. Many managers coukd get a lot more from these players!!
27 shots! Clearing not playing for clean sheet. The manager can’t put it in the net, that is on the players and due to the financial situation we don’t have a lot of players that can do that
Who's to say he'll play Broja and Chermiti if they're fit? Summer of '23 he brought in Beto and Chermiti and in a full season they only played 941 PL minutes and 196 minutes, and this season Beto has only played 113 PL minutes. This season he brought in O'Brien and he's only played 26 PL minutes. I get the impression that these are mainly Thelwell picks and Dyche prefers to stick with his own favorites, so even if Broja and Chermiti get fit they might have a hard time getting onto the pitch?
Unless either learn how to control 60 yard punts with their head, maintain possession and wait for the slowest wingers I've ever seen to join the attack, then both will be ineffective under dyche
We need a finisher. Playing well, defensively solid, creating chances (58 shots in past 3 games) but sadly our strikers are crap, Doucs is too old so all hope on Broja.
I agree. A natural goal scorer would paper over the cracks. We made enough chances to win this game, not many but enough. Beto got into good positions but cant finish his dinner. DCL didn't get on the end of anything in 94 minutes.
DCL can't be expected to play up front on his own, battle for long balls, hold it up etc and get on the end of it aswell. Especially if noone makes runs to work off him. It's awful being a CF on this team.
@SonicJaneStooge playing well, i don't know which Everton team you are watching!! The football is dreadful long diagonal balls or a long kick from Pickford, hoping to win the 2nd balls. The reason there is no atmosphere in Goodison Park is due to the dreadful football and tactics and substitutions from Neanderthal Dyche!!
@@timdawson4662 That's nonsense. Every major team plays with one up front. 442 is dead mate so that excuse is nonsense. Also he's played up front solo for Everton for YEARRRSSS now. He knows what to do he's just shit at it. Not a good finisher at all.
@@raymondkelbrick2138 Yep that's what happens when you don't have quality players on the ball in defence/holding midfield. Also that squad is so poor it should be a relegation fighting squad so why would you expect a more possession based style? makes no sense.
Some good performances today, but still can't break teams down with a low block... NO plan b that's all on Dyche. Beto should've been on at half time. Lindstrom mirror image of Harrison (both crap) so many wasted corners from Mcneil and Doucs legs have gone.
Strikers alone are not the answer. Never been 💯 on DCL tbh but he looks so fed up & has thrown in the towel,dont blame him btw. Lump it to him n then say go on do something with that!! NO FUCKEN GOOD TO ANYBODY THAT!! We must be brave not stupid n gun ho but clever n brave. I feel dyche shackles our creative lads. Mindset is DONT LOSE NMW it should be LETS BE BRAVE & TRY TO WIN!Players are arle arses but would be good to hear what they really think wouldn't it
Look at the next 11 games we will be lucky to get a couple of draws at most, no chance of a win, we will be in the bottom 3 in new year , absolutely abysmal........
I actually agree for once with you 17th shouldn’t be the aim this season 12th to 14th is realistic but these fans who think we should be in the top half is ludicrous!
Unfortunately the attitude won’t change until the manager changes. Dyche is a loser who still acts like he’s managing Burnley, it’s totally unacceptable.
Baz, I thought we were better team in first half . BUT 2nd half we were “managed” poorly v 10 men. We went around the horse shoe passing so slowly! They played 6-1-2 yea a 6-1-2 in defense and then counterattacked! Big credit to their manager! We continued our 4-5-1 until we went to 4-4-2 w Beto. Remember when 4-4-2 was the norm, managers changed it when the other team went to 10 men . Essentially we went backwards tactically! Points 2 and 3 are spot on , we are Everton FFS PS What happens if we go down after 1 season inBM which will then become everyone’s wembley in the championship in a tough division
We're dragging our heels through a transition/ changeover,new stadium on the horizon... It's having a detrimental effect on everything at the club, no way will new owners persist with this crap, but the longer everything drags on, it's going to be touch and go if everything goes tits up... Seriously possible we will be going into the new stadium in the championship under new owners 😒
The manager is awful , he knows he’s getting sacked soon so doesn’t give a toss , he doesn’t know how to play attacking football We will be in the bottom 3 by Christmas Brentford even with 10 men were the better team
I agree that we defensively Sound Midfield Sound Going forward? Long Ball, sometime clever but not enough Like new players from summer We have the players too play attacking football We had a dire record with injuries before Dyche, is that why he is not doing what we want??
If any of these players or any player in the premier league had the choice of playing for any manager in the premier league I guarantee Dyche would be there last choice. He is Anti football. Nobody would want to play this way.
The reason the stadium is flat is because we’ve got nothing to get excited for, terrible performances from players week in week out why would we be happy with this
Mentality shift is all well and good, but if the players are doing what Dyche is asking then it's back to the manager. No one wants to keep changing managers but Dyche has had far too long now without producing something/anything. Sorry, he has to go and quickly!
Dyche tactics are abysmal .... Moyes would set up the team exactly the same. DCL needs dropping and the full backs need to get forward .... I'm fed up of it.
If Myko or Young went forward they wouldn't get back. Patterson struggles defensively (before you suggest him) Beto can't play CF on his own so who plays up front on this team if not Dom. No wonder Dom wants out. A dinosaur for a coach and a fan base who don't seem to have a clue what's going on offensively. Anyone who watches knows that Dom is all on his own up front with little or no support. It's sad. Dyche never played this way at Burnley. He played long ball but he had two big CFs up front to work together. Dom has missed chances but his morale must be very low with what he faces every time.
Baz every team who get relegated “but themselves in it” what are you missing? Everton will be in the bottom three by Christmas. The players don’t believe in the manager or his tactics, nothing going to change until we change the manager.
Everyone talking how good Ndiaye is but he is still same as not a game changer. Everton transfer is also poor. BBC of Beto, Borja n Chermiti, not contributing. Time for Dyche to go... not replaced by Conceicao, Mour nor Moyes but Graham Potter !
Dyche is an absolute bluffer, who talks nonsense nearly every time he opens his mouth. The stats don't lie, he's an appalling manager, and to think he earns somewhere in the region of 5 million quid a year. I genuine think i'd rather have any one of the other 19 managers in charge of Everton over him. Once he's gone, it'll be like an exorcism removing a negative spirit haunting our club and then players might actually be allowed to express themselves on the pitch and win some games.
Talk about being stuck in a state of Malaise ! State of Flux ! call it what you want, but this Manager I'm sorry to say is bloody USELESS ! and so are some of the players ! Tactically Nieve to say the least and bloody minded as well ! what's going on at the Funny Farm ? oh sorry Finch Farm, walking the Plank again and sooner or later we're gonner fall off.
Am I glad I don't go anymore I feel sorry for you lot that pay good money to go and watch that week in weekout if he stays we are heading to the championship
Its not going to happen Baz. Nothing will change while Dyche is here and we all know it. Same thing week in and week out. A mediocre squad who are capable of more than this but a manager who is clueless and full of sh!t.
He's pathetic says no evidence to suggest Ndiaye can play in the 10 then plays him there and hangs him out to dry by our negative set up. He's not got a clue and it's weak management players don't respect him apart from his favourites who he'll never drop
The mentality stems from the manager who spreads negativity through to the players and it’s spreading to the fans like wildfire we need an immediate change now before it’s too late we need a fresh new positive minded forward thinking tactically dynamic manager who can change a game by tweaking tactics and players in game and who’s positive before during and after the game and is open minded to a few ideas from other people in the backroom staff and someone who is one of us not a redshite Dyche has never been one of us it’s always they and them never we or us and he must be volleyed to the shadow realm
Mentality is an issue. The manager thinks he is doing a top job under restricted tough circumstances, and those circumstances are the reason for poor form and results. They are not. It’s poor coaching tactics and application from the manager. In fact I will say I think he is ignorant and try’s to keep his hands clean with a ‘ well nobody else can do better’ mentality. Newsflash, I’m pretty sure there are many managers who will do better with these players. Secondly, the players mentality sucks. There is a difference between being frustrated/ down about poor results, and being angry and fighting to not lose. These players just have no fight anger or passion. They are self centred dopey and wimpy. Get angry ffs, with the manager, with each other, with the result! Storm off the pitch swearing! Hate not getting results and playing well! Shove the sulky sad face with little hand claps to the fans bs! It’s meaningless emotionless and pointless- just like the football being played.
It was abysmal and I will be delighted when the manager leaves and joins a championship club at his skill level. If we don't start winning games we will be joining him there. Moyes on 18 month contract.
I think Moyes on an 18 month contract is the safest option atm. I think he knows the club, fans etc, the squad probably suit his style and enough of the fan base still respect him to get behind him. 18 months is the right length. Consolidate this season and have next to earn a new deal if it's right for both parties.
Absolutely agree. A safe pair of hands who understands the club and fanbase and who actually cares about the club and shows some fire and passion. Carsley could come with him, maybe he could be an option longer term. Moyes would have the team energised and we'd be on the front foot at home. A lot of people don't want him back and I respect that but he has proven at West Ham he is a much more capable manager than Dyche and is still able to do it.
Our two best right backs (three if you count Garner) are out hurt. Our two best strikers are out hurt. Our three best box to box mids are out hurt (assuming Dele signs with us). Any point is a good point given all that, and nothing is going to change until we start getting some of those players back on the pitch. The players Dyche is putting out there are the best he has available, and any change in tactics will weaken us defensively as much or more than it will help us offensively.
Everton 0-0 Brentford | We Need A Mentality Change | 3 Talking Points
Just watched his post match, iv never heard a post match that a manager yapps so much without making any sense. Hes gotta go or we are fucked
After every post match conference he blathers on talking out of his arse safe in the knowledge that there's nobody at our club who's got the balls to sack him. Shameful. 🤬
Deffo got to go.😢
Bas options in January will make no difference to Dyche. He will pick his favourite players every time if they are available whether fit/injured/out of form or all 3.
In 60-years, Ive never known a worse time as an Evertonian.
Way worse in 1994, Howards final season, the Benetiz and Lampard seasons. Its a dreadful watch but we are 1 defeat in 8 - nowhere near the worst.
@@MartinGreen932mate we have won SIX games since December LAST YEAR!
@@stephenbagan3560 because the players are shite. Dyche has the lowest net spend in PL history. If only the club could back him.
It's going to get worse
@@stephenbagan3560 SPOT ON....SHOCKING.
We need a managerial change.
Baz, Dyche has options to change things but sadly he will not. The football is dreadful, 1 goal scored in 4 games against poor/ average teams.
It's flat due to the dreadful football and people worrying about us not getting 3 points against poor teams and the tough fixtures we have coming in December. Can't wait for Dyche to be sacked. Many managers coukd get a lot more from these players!!
He's playing for clean sheets.
27 shots! Clearing not playing for clean sheet. The manager can’t put it in the net, that is on the players and due to the financial situation we don’t have a lot of players that can do that
Its fine saying we need a mentality shift but simply wont happen under dyche.
Three talking points .
Doucoure should never start another game .
Beto does something DCL does nothing .
Dyche out
The players are playing to his tactics
Dyche doesnt care anymore.
Wudnt nlame brainwaith leaving .dyche is defo helping his cause
Who's to say he'll play Broja and Chermiti if they're fit?
Summer of '23 he brought in Beto and Chermiti and in a full season they only played 941 PL minutes and 196 minutes, and this season Beto has only played 113 PL minutes.
This season he brought in O'Brien and he's only played 26 PL minutes.
I get the impression that these are mainly Thelwell picks and Dyche prefers to stick with his own favorites, so even if Broja and Chermiti get fit they might have a hard time getting onto the pitch?
Unless either learn how to control 60 yard punts with their head, maintain possession and wait for the slowest wingers I've ever seen to join the attack, then both will be ineffective under dyche
Feel so fed up with it all, can't wait for the takeover to take place. It's all so predictable 😢
Mentality change with Dyche ?? I can't see it
We need a finisher. Playing well, defensively solid, creating chances (58 shots in past 3 games) but sadly our strikers are crap, Doucs is too old so all hope on Broja.
I agree. A natural goal scorer would paper over the cracks. We made enough chances to win this game, not many but enough. Beto got into good positions but cant finish his dinner. DCL didn't get on the end of anything in 94 minutes.
DCL can't be expected to play up front on his own, battle for long balls, hold it up etc and get on the end of it aswell. Especially if noone makes runs to work off him. It's awful being a CF on this team.
@SonicJaneStooge playing well, i don't know which Everton team you are watching!! The football is dreadful long diagonal balls or a long kick from Pickford, hoping to win the 2nd balls. The reason there is no atmosphere in Goodison Park is due to the dreadful football and tactics and substitutions from Neanderthal Dyche!!
@@timdawson4662 That's nonsense. Every major team plays with one up front. 442 is dead mate so that excuse is nonsense. Also he's played up front solo for Everton for YEARRRSSS now. He knows what to do he's just shit at it. Not a good finisher at all.
@@raymondkelbrick2138 Yep that's what happens when you don't have quality players on the ball in defence/holding midfield. Also that squad is so poor it should be a relegation fighting squad so why would you expect a more possession based style? makes no sense.
Think of all those glory years in our past, especially the 80s, this is our last season at Goodison park, i am 62 next year, heartbreaking 😢
Too right! This current dross is a betrayal of the 'School of Science'
@@OdXUKMy sentiments EXACTLY.
Some good performances today, but still can't break teams down with a low block... NO plan b that's all on Dyche. Beto should've been on at half time. Lindstrom mirror image of Harrison (both crap) so many wasted corners from Mcneil and Doucs legs have gone.
Who played well??
This manager won’t do anything different. He’s awful
9:00 is very interesting.
We have been in a relegation battle since pre season!
Unfortunately, I think we've been in a relegation battle for years!
Strikers alone are not the answer. Never been 💯 on DCL tbh but he looks so fed up & has thrown in the towel,dont blame him btw. Lump it to him n then say go on do something with that!! NO FUCKEN GOOD TO ANYBODY THAT!! We must be brave not stupid n gun ho but clever n brave. I feel dyche shackles our creative lads. Mindset is DONT LOSE NMW it should be LETS BE BRAVE & TRY TO WIN!Players are arle arses but would be good to hear what they really think wouldn't it
Look at the next 11 games we will be lucky to get a couple of draws at most, no chance of a win, we will be in the bottom 3 in new year , absolutely abysmal........
May be we can buy a good striker in January window. We have missed a consistent goal scorer for last 4 seasons
We'll probably spend another 20 million on a 4th choice defensive midfielder
I actually agree for once with you 17th shouldn’t be the aim this season 12th to 14th is realistic but these fans who think we should be in the top half is ludicrous!
Unfortunately the attitude won’t change until the manager changes. Dyche is a loser who still acts like he’s managing Burnley, it’s totally unacceptable.
Baz,
I thought we were better team in first half . BUT 2nd half we were “managed” poorly v 10 men. We went around the horse shoe passing so slowly! They played 6-1-2 yea a 6-1-2 in defense and then counterattacked! Big credit to their manager! We continued our 4-5-1 until we went to 4-4-2 w Beto. Remember when 4-4-2 was the norm, managers changed it when the other team went to 10 men . Essentially we went backwards tactically!
Points 2 and 3 are spot on , we are Everton FFS
PS What happens if we go down after 1 season inBM which will then become everyone’s wembley in the championship in a tough division
Dyche scared to lose that game, and was happy enough getting a draw. Beto and Mangala should have been brought on at half_time.
We're dragging our heels through a transition/ changeover,new stadium on the horizon... It's having a detrimental effect on everything at the club, no way will new owners persist with this crap, but the longer everything drags on, it's going to be touch and go if everything goes tits up...
Seriously possible we will be going into the new stadium in the championship under new owners 😒
Gueye, Doucore and Mangala cant pass the ball forward or more than 5 yards.
Big games coming up .. Sean needs to step down
This is worse then the Mike Walker era we cannot wait until December time for the frieken s to take over Time running out
I was very surprised we sold Antonee Robinson (fulham) how we could do with the likes of him now
The manager is awful , he knows he’s getting sacked soon so doesn’t give a toss , he doesn’t know how to play attacking football
We will be in the bottom 3 by Christmas
Brentford even with 10 men were the better team
Good point that
Its amazing how much moshiri & dyche has fucked up this football club
I agree that we defensively Sound
Midfield Sound
Going forward? Long Ball, sometime clever but not enough
Like new players from summer
We have the players too play attacking football
We had a dire record with injuries before Dyche, is that why he is not doing what we want??
If any of these players or any player in the premier league had the choice of playing for any manager in the premier league I guarantee Dyche would be there last choice. He is Anti football. Nobody would want to play this way.
Been a blues fan since 1984 but seems like the manager wants 1pt every game
My 3 things, dyche out dyche out dyche out. Simple as that. How anyone can simply want him here is beyond me. Had enough…
Haven't got a single player that knows how to find the back of the net.
Yes we do...Michael Keane 🤣
@@Mr.P._.77 Keano 🤣
So depressing as always
Not an Everton fan but there are teams a lot worse and you should stay up but your december schedule looks grim.
The reason the stadium is flat is because we’ve got nothing to get excited for, terrible performances from players week in week out why would we be happy with this
Is it impossible to sack dyche because of the takeover ongoing?
The manager is working with blunt tools, but he doesn’t have the ability or skillset to sharpen them!
Fed up Baz, 😔😔
Don't worry everyone Christmas is the time of miracles.
Where in a relegation battle because of dyche he should have gone last season
Point one: Sack Baldy.
Point two: Get any spare manager in.
Point three: Actually attack teams for more than five minutes.
Mentality shift is all well and good, but if the players are doing what Dyche is asking then it's back to the manager. No one wants to keep changing managers but Dyche has had far too long now without producing something/anything. Sorry, he has to go and quickly!
Dyche tactics are abysmal .... Moyes would set up the team exactly the same. DCL needs dropping and the full backs need to get forward .... I'm fed up of it.
If Myko or Young went forward they wouldn't get back. Patterson struggles defensively (before you suggest him) Beto can't play CF on his own so who plays up front on this team if not Dom. No wonder Dom wants out. A dinosaur for a coach and a fan base who don't seem to have a clue what's going on offensively. Anyone who watches knows that Dom is all on his own up front with little or no support. It's sad. Dyche never played this way at Burnley. He played long ball but he had two big CFs up front to work together. Dom has missed chances but his morale must be very low with what he faces every time.
Sack the Manager, he is awful, at half time he could have gone 3-5-2 and try something different to win!
The manager has to go for me he's lost us 13 points in 12 games 🤬
Do you have any thoughts on his replacement?
Baz every team who get relegated “but themselves in it” what are you missing? Everton will be in the bottom three by Christmas. The players don’t believe in the manager or his tactics, nothing going to change until we change the manager.
Everyone talking how good Ndiaye is but he is still same as not a game changer.
Everton transfer is also poor. BBC of Beto, Borja n Chermiti, not contributing.
Time for Dyche to go... not replaced by Conceicao, Mour nor Moyes but Graham Potter !
Baz we are not good enough
We need a change of management.
Dyche is an absolute bluffer, who talks nonsense nearly every time he opens his mouth. The stats don't lie, he's an appalling manager, and to think he earns somewhere in the region of 5 million quid a year. I genuine think i'd rather have any one of the other 19 managers in charge of Everton over him. Once he's gone, it'll be like an exorcism removing a negative spirit haunting our club and then players might actually be allowed to express themselves on the pitch and win some games.
Talk about being stuck in a state of Malaise ! State of Flux ! call it what you want, but this Manager I'm sorry to say is bloody USELESS ! and so are some of the players ! Tactically Nieve to say the least and bloody minded as well ! what's going on at the Funny Farm ? oh sorry Finch Farm, walking the Plank again and sooner or later we're gonner fall off.
clueless ginger out
What part of absolute shite lack of talent players don’t you understand Baz? Pitifully talentless,including the staff & the subs 🙈
Change out motto for those fans to “meh”
Am I glad I don't go anymore I feel sorry for you lot that pay good money to go and watch that week in weekout if he stays we are heading to the championship
Change or drop
Its not going to happen Baz. Nothing will change while Dyche is here and we all know it. Same thing week in and week out. A mediocre squad who are capable of more than this but a manager who is clueless and full of sh!t.
Shite, shite, shite, how much longer have we to put up with this utter utter crap, sick of it
We be nothing with with this lot
He's pathetic says no evidence to suggest Ndiaye can play in the 10 then plays him there and hangs him out to dry by our negative set up. He's not got a clue and it's weak management players don't respect him apart from his favourites who he'll never drop
Will Dyche use broja?
Can he plat in defence 🤔
Beto should have come on for all of the second half playing 10 men Dyche is shite .
The mentality stems from the manager who spreads negativity through to the players and it’s spreading to the fans like wildfire we need an immediate change now before it’s too late we need a fresh new positive minded forward thinking tactically dynamic manager who can change a game by tweaking tactics and players in game and who’s positive before during and after the game and is open minded to a few ideas from other people in the backroom staff and someone who is one of us not a redshite Dyche has never been one of us it’s always they and them never we or us and he must be volleyed to the shadow realm
Get the ginger red out now.
You tell me where was the sense in Sam allardice being sacked don't forget Everton came 8th that season now come on he's shit I'm sorry rubbish.
Mentality is an issue. The manager thinks he is doing a top job under restricted tough circumstances, and those circumstances are the reason for poor form and results. They are not. It’s poor coaching tactics and application from the manager. In fact I will say I think he is ignorant and try’s to keep his hands clean with a ‘ well nobody else can do better’ mentality. Newsflash, I’m pretty sure there are many managers who will do better with these players.
Secondly, the players mentality sucks. There is a difference between being frustrated/ down about poor results, and being angry and fighting to not lose. These players just have no fight anger or passion. They are self centred dopey and wimpy. Get angry ffs, with the manager, with each other, with the result! Storm off the pitch swearing! Hate not getting results and playing well! Shove the sulky sad face with little hand claps to the fans bs! It’s meaningless emotionless and pointless- just like the football being played.
Wake up baz it’s all on the manager ! He won’t change !!!!
It was abysmal and I will be delighted when the manager leaves and joins a championship club at his skill level. If we don't start winning games we will be joining him there. Moyes on 18 month contract.
I think Moyes on an 18 month contract is the safest option atm. I think he knows the club, fans etc, the squad probably suit his style and enough of the fan base still respect him to get behind him. 18 months is the right length. Consolidate this season and have next to earn a new deal if it's right for both parties.
Absolutely agree. A safe pair of hands who understands the club and fanbase and who actually cares about the club and shows some fire and passion. Carsley could come with him, maybe he could be an option longer term. Moyes would have the team energised and we'd be on the front foot at home. A lot of people don't want him back and I respect that but he has proven at West Ham he is a much more capable manager than Dyche and is still able to do it.
Our two best right backs (three if you count Garner) are out hurt. Our two best strikers are out hurt. Our three best box to box mids are out hurt (assuming Dele signs with us). Any point is a good point given all that, and nothing is going to change until we start getting some of those players back on the pitch. The players Dyche is putting out there are the best he has available, and any change in tactics will weaken us defensively as much or more than it will help us offensively.
Get moyles and dunc in asap.get a bit of spirit going
Get us David Moyes before we play Liverpool and arsenal till the end of the season 💙😏
bring in Ferguson and Moyes, Dyche out now!!
Fed up Baz, 😔😔