POLARIS MATRYX ASSAULT REVIEW! ALSO A COMPARISON BETWEEN AN ASSAULT AND MY POLARIS MATRYX XCR!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- This sled is a lot of fun and i can understand why so many people enjoy this sled and choose it as their sled of choice!
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Would like to say thank you for all the setup videos you and Bruce have done. It's got me going in the right direction for my xcr setup next year. Gonna get some revalving done for sure from bruce. But again thanks for the videos it's helped a bunch.
Hey Adam! comments like this are what make everything we do worth all the time. That's why we are doing what we are doing! to get you (and everyone) pointed in the right direction and happy on their sleds. Any questions reach out! always happy top help
Yes thanks for your info enjoy listening to you .
I wish you would have had the gauge view set on the Assault instead of the map, just for speed reference for the viewers... maybe next time. Keep the great content coming! Love seeing the puppy too.
realized that while i was editing. if you look close i passed him at 97 i believe. thanks for following along!
Just the video I needed as i debate getting rid of this xrs 😂
do it!!! Youll be happy!!
Having owned a an 850 Assault for 3 years now, I can give you a tip if you don't want ski lift. I learned this on my 2016 PRO-S when the rear shock blew so I could still ride until I could get the shock rebuilt.
Slide forward on the seat to where you're almost riding the gas tank. Moves the center of gravity forward and holds 'em down. Not necessarily comfortable for an all day ride, but when you need to get racey....
Hey! So that is how i ride 100% on the time. as far forward and over the bars. The sled will still lift skis. would take alot of suspension work to get it to act somewhat how i want it but still wont work as well as a coupled skid in the trails
what year is that xcr the color scheme is sick ?
thats a 22 but its fully painted. There was no option for this
If I bought a polaris it would be an assault. I have a 2022 backcountry with a 1.6 track I just love the longer track for trail riding.
As do I. Just not an uncoupled fan
I have a 2021 polaris assault switchback with 144 track and 2 inch paddles and I love it its the plum people with white and it's fast its a 850
love that color!!
Top speed you would think the xcr would win .assault longer track turns not as good . out of the hole should be faster due to more traction but more hp would be needed to rotate that big track faster . Also keep your track loose that helps a couple mph faster less less hp needed to rotate track . Not to loose of corse lol. Neither of those sleds sound stock . Piped clutched computer tuned I’m sure .
the track angle on the assaults make them fast. lets the track roll easier. and both stock. my sled has a straightline muffler on it but thats it
Really like your videos. So on your sled what springs do you have on your ski shocks and you your front track shock. What #s and are they highgear? 🍻
Thank you. I do not have part #’s but the front ski springs are 125 pounds sorings off the CC 600 and the FTS is a Hygear dual rate
I have solved the ski lift issue for the most part on my 22 assault. I upgraded the rear torsion springs to the Polaris heavy duty, added 1 inch of preload to the front shocks from factory spec. Also backed off preload on the rear shock half an inch from factory spec. I set the rear compression damping at four clicks out on both rear shocks. Also set the front shocks to two clicks out. It is not completely solved but it is 100 times better. Biggest change to getting the ski lift solved was changing my riding style to be up over the bars. In order to get the assault to be really aggressive in the trails you have to muscle it. Thanks for the video and that is a beautiful maroon sled. I love the gold graphics
im sure i can set it up to my liking there is not a question in my mind. I just wanted to give a "what did i feel off the bat review" and im sure you can set it up and change riding style but at the end of the day it will not be as good as an XCR with a coupled skid. Very impressed with the sled overall though!
The xcr in 128 I feel is more playful and lifts the skis like crazy! It’s controllable with with body position. I like it better in the deeper slow speed whoops.
yes the XCR has a better shock package! Should work better in the big stuff!!!
My VR1 came with the front shocks all the way out, I’ve had heavy ski pressure from the get go. I tightened the center track shock now it wants to wheelie. I went down 1 1/4 inches on the front shocks, but still have heavy steering although it does corner better. If I go down more on the front shocks will the steering effort be reduced?
increasing preload on the ski springs increases ski pressure. Increasing preload on the center shock or front track shock spring will decrease ski pressure.
Great video again Jesse. I wonder what the boost on an assault with 2 inch is going to be like💪🏻🤔. INSANE!!!
yea that will be ridiculous. not my cup of tea thats for sure!
Would you say you could notice that the assault actually pulls harder? Or it just squeaks out a few more mph?
squeaks out a few more MPH again because of the track angle. only real difference!
Great video. I can tell that Assault is a rocket ship. Seems so fast, like you said. Definitely could see the ski lift. Great videos. It will help me decide what to get next season. Thanks for the information 👍
Thank you! Assaults are fast! Just a fact! Thanks for following along and any questions you have let me know!
I was thinking about something with a little more track compared to my Axys switchback, I think a xc137 with a more aggressive track will probably be a better choice for me than the assault
you can get an XC with a 1.6 or a 1.5 track i believe. They work really well!
The gold accents the red perfectly
Thank you! Wish I had them all season!’
Love the video Jesse! Gotta say I love my 22 SBA, you’re right on with your review.
Thank you! Id like to think i know what im talking about!
Riding in Lyons Falls NY
yes we ride tug hill so we are all over that area
Wow that Assault was coming on strong. What length studs are you running in your XCR
Yes total rocket ship!! And 1.45
Yes i agree i can tell in first 5-10 miles if i like the sled or not
for sure!! i know what i like and i know how it feels right away
great video.seemed like those skis were always in the air that thing just keeps pulling.
Yea they just floated and never touched hahaha
I know I should have asked you sooner, but why did you go the stud pattern you have on your XCR? Love seeing your puppies more!
I think two studs with double backer work better then singles. As far as the pattern that was Bruce Sr's design hahah
@@JESSEJAMES322 I'll have to try it on my next setup. Makes sense.
I average about 4000 miles a year of trail but also tons of off trail and work. I have a titan and an assault, and an xcr. Let's just say the xcr got sold last week. The assault is just better all around for those who like to play. Mind you in northern Ontario and we get lots of snow and trail are always pristine, so we don't have the issues you seem to have with trails being super rough and bottoming out. But agreed needed heavy springs on all the sleds.
assaults are a huge hit! guys love them just like you do and they will never go back. It is a great sled its just got exactly what I want!
@@JESSEJAMES322 100% seeing the terrain you have I can see why you like the setup you have
yea we get some rough stuff!!
Drive-in Theater trail to Timberview is a cool section.
one of my favorites on the hill!
Is that the trail that goes from whiskey jacks towards Timberview?
Well there is two ways to go but yes! You can go right by Timberview or you can hook a left before you get to the plowed road and it’ll
Also bring you down there
@@JESSEJAMES322 do you know the name of that trail where the drive-in theater is? The Timberview is on Carpenter Road and then that connects to Lee Gulf
What did you think of the brake compared to your XCR? Obviously all the sleds have the same brake, VR1, assault, etc. but the XCR has its own larger racing brake by itself.
Only difference is a solid rotor on the XCR. I didn’t notice any difference. My asssumption is that the XCR brake is more durable to heat. But for feel the same
@@JESSEJAMES322 yes definitely more durable to heat plus the XCR has an additional vent on the hood on the brake side that doesn’t exist on the other sled panels.
polaris just came out with a HD brake kit for all sleds. Ha sthe floating Rotor like the CC and harder brake pads. I will have that next year
The stickers are MINT! Looks like a whole new sled. I’ve got to get up to Tug no snow anywhere else.
Thank you! and not much snow up there either...
@@JESSEJAMES322 Bad year I usually ride Vermont not much snow at all. Thinking about looking to buy a place near Tug at least I know they always get snow.
Great videos all season! What brand of oil do you use?
thank you! i use Polaris oil. Gold not extreme
Just bought a 22 VR1 looking for the extra heavy duty torsion spring do you know if Bruce has any left
I would wait until the new XHD springs come out and get them. They are a much better spring. Additionally if you are going to a XHD spring on a VR1 i would recommend getting that rear shock revalved to add some rebound in. WIth the XHD and no valving it will be poggoing
@@JESSEJAMES322 ok do you know when they are coming out i haven't heard and I l I ve in Indiana not sure who does revalving
Bruce (who I do many of my videos with who owns SouthSide sales and service) can do whatever you need. Just pull It out snd send It to him.
Please do a video on chaincase service thanks
I have touched on that in about 5 other videos. Most recent being the service video I did earlier this year on my 22 XCR. Take a peak back at my videos and you’ll see it
ONCE THE SKIS COME DOWN HOW IS THE STEERING COMPARED TO YOURS
not as good. I have an insane amount of preload. I have the more aggresive C&A ski and 2 more inches of carbide so i did not expect it to turn as well as mine but still turned good
@@JESSEJAMES322 THANKS I ORDERED A 2023
The gold letters on yours look sweet
Thank you! Im loving them as well!
That assault must be geared taller to reel you in and pull away like that. Put some taller gears in that XCR. I had to after I boosted my turbo cat
I think that maybe his friends assault might be one of those sleds that just run exceptionally well like one the one in a hundred that will walk on the other sleds of the same size.
I know, I have had some like that. Now I have a 2022 XCR850 that walks all over my friends 2021 XCR850 out of the hole mid range and top end, mine just has more get up and go. Both sleds are bone stock and both bought new this year. I have a very good running 800 Rush that his 21 XCR850 runs away from me in a drag race, so I know there is nothing wrong with his.
Assault has been one of the fastest Polaris sled with the 1.325 cobra for years
The assaults with the 1.6 are geared shorter but As Robert ssid it’s just one of those sleds that is so fast. He had a Pro-S 850 that’s a rocket ship too. But the 1.352 assaults are just total short track killers. Always been
@@robertanthony9674 that's just nuts to have that kind of hp variance in motors. Of course the Assault is putting more power to the ground, but it takes a good 10+ hp difference to pull away like that. If were talking true stock to stock sleds.
@@JESSEJAMES322 hard to believe it's geared shorter and pulls that much better. I get it has more track on the ground so its going to typically get out ahead quicker, but if its a true hp variance, I would not be happy about that. Didn't you add a clutch kit? Have you tried adding weight? I always used to load my 2 strokes up with as much weight as I could.
Lets take ski lift out of the equation assuming it can be adjusted and controlled. How did you feel about riding the longer machine in its ability to turn in the trails?
I'm a 129 850 AXYS with many setup updates to make it handle for increased balance and cornering speeds. Considering a new 137XC or 146 1.35 SB XC have 0 interest in off trail riding but that long sled rides so smooth and great top speed. Have ridden 850 SB AXYS just feels so long like a bus in smaller trails (ride all the same locations you show on the Hill) but on big trails most fun sled ever rode. Wondering how a Matrix 137 vs 146 Matrix feels against each other from a handling standpoint.
keep up the great vids and reconn work !
i do not notice the length at all. the tipped rails really make it feel like a short track. The amount of track on the ground is just about the same if not exactly the same. I didnt notice length at all. was very impressed (again) aside form ski lift
@@JESSEJAMES322 thanks that makes sense I'm thinking similar ... A XC 137 non tipped rail vs a 146 tipped would provide similar results.
Im leaning hard to the SB and putting some blocks in it to stay down / adjust. Put some adjustments in it more like a XC for trail use. I've been using the adjustable limiters / center shock / low front end ( Accelerated Technology mindset/ parts) I'm thinking could use lessons learned to tame the SB for groomed trail and have best of ride comfort, handling, traction, and top speed / stable ...
Thanks for the feedback I really enjoyed the limiter strap vid and the new 23 suspension torsion spring discussion ....keep digging maybe I'll see ya on the Hill next season!
@@hotrodsnova SBA works just fine for trails the way it is, just have to move lazy ass off the seat and forward to rail corners hard.
under throttle the skis will lift regardless of where you are. with some suspension work i would be able to get them to work ok but not nearly as good as a coupled skid in trails. Just a fact.
Sweet video! Im an assault guy love the versatility of it. Don’t matter what the conditions or type of riding it’s ready for it. You don’t like the ski lift, but thats without touching the shocks at all. im wondering if you put time in an assaults suspension you could get it to keep the skis down. I know on mine just a torsion spring adjustment makes a huge difference on ski lift
oh for sure i could. My rears would be so stiff the transfer would be minimal as well as adding HD torsion springs. BUT either way yoy look at it youll still have ski lift one way or another. The thing that may help the most would be pulling the limiter strap on the assault. i believe that would make the biggest ski lift change!
Yesss YESSSSS
always!!!