How To Do A Plot Twist
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Some of the most exciting movies are the ones with crazy plot twists. But what separates a good twist from a bad one? Let's take a look at a few movies and see what separates the epic from the boring.
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So, what you’re saying is it’s not the ending that matters, but the friends we made along the way.
God damnit
Hunter x hunter??
@@saiyaf5301 no,Hunter x Hunter isn't that kind of anime/manga. Besides,we still have the Dark Continent arc left
TheDragonKing no I thought the original comment was quoting the show
@@saiyaf5301 that quote isn't from the show
The thing is that you can always rewatch a movie, but can only experience the surprise of a plot twist once.
When watching the movie again, you are surprised by all the ways the plot twist is foreshadowed.
@@schwarzerritter5724 I reckon that's why the people in the survey enjoyed their books more when they knew the ending.
not true, get drunk
Just like when I watched the good place. So much foreshadowing!
Yes which is why it's never as good the 2nd+ time.
I was very surprised by the ending of Titanic.
My wife said surely, you should have known two people can't float on the same door.
I told her, it's completely plausible given the size of the door, and don't call me Shirley.
They would've floated yes but the door would've been fully under sumerging them
David and José lmao swoosh
Clint Ashley ahhh I see a man of Leslie Culture Airplanes right?
pierre117 First of all its woosh not swoosh lol, and it’s not really woosh. You can know that OP was joking but still explain to anyone who’s unaware that even if two people could fit on the raft in Titanic, it still wouldn’t have resulted in a happy ending
Wait, what? Why are they trying to float on a door? Are you telling me Titanic sunk in the movie? Why the fuck are you spoiling the movie for me...
I still remember when I first I saw Clark Kent take off his glasses. Whaaat?
Best. Plot twist. Ever!!
This needs attention
Wait who was he?
Wait, Superman was Clark Kent???
Damn my theory was that Superman was Perry White, but now that I see this it makes so much sense!
haha funny fuckers 😂
You should do one on the sex scene. Why do directors use them? When are they necessary? And what can they tell us about the characters or the movie in general?
One film I can think of where the sex scene is totally necessary is the one in Oldboy, without it the twist at the end would not be as disturbing as it is.
because sex is a huge part and driving force in most peoples live. YOu have to atleast hint on that to make a alot of stories believable.
Konrad von Schnitzeldorf but at the same time it is not common to see people taking a sh*t in the bathroom... Thats one of the reasons why I like Tarantino's movies.
Annihilated481 The Sex montage in Deadpool was outright softcore porn, with some good jokes amidst the fake sex
I mean, I don't think it was that necessary in the movie, and pretty much ruined part ofnthe imersion I had in the jokes because of the porn-ish outlook.
The reason I ask is because there seems to be a lot of work that goes into simulating what would ordinarily be the most natural of human procedures. Actors usually have to wear skin colored underwear, prosthetics, use body doubles, and have to shoot awkward and uncomfortable scenes from many takes and angles in front of a lot of people. I wouldn't think the crew or the cast would go through all this trouble without a certain aim in mind.
The Now You See Me twist could've worked if they made him even more "foolish". If it could've been guessed that he was actually acting, via over-acting, it would've been more satisfying.
I haven't seen the movie, but if they had made the man really intelligent but over-exaggeratedly clumsy, that could've worked.
What part of the movie made them think people would watch a sequel? Nothing was particularly believable. I was more amazed by any magic going on in Harry Potter, because they spent time trying to make it look good. Now you see me was just dull all along
@@TheGrindelwald Sure buddy
Nope. They tried that with the Star Wars prequels. Jar Jar Binks was supposed to be the villain. But they went so over-the-top with his antics that everybody hated him and they had to rework the story. There are videos on this that cover all the clues in the movies, clues that would have made his twist a good one because all the information was there.
I quite liked it but the twist in Now You See Me 2 was dreadful. I wanted to kill myself
How do you do a plot twist?
"And it was all just a dream...."
That's really bad writing. Didn't work for Dallas, -doesn't work for anyone else...-
I'll take that back. It works for The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening. They not only hint, but blatantly tell the player the Island is a dream of the Windfish, and waking it up ends the world. That's pretty dark, but the player does it anyway.
cof-cof Twilight cof-cof
Nah that's a cop out
Made a short film with that kind of ending. Shitty audience reaction.
A dog's dream
The plot twist in Primal Fear works also because Richard Gere's character confesses to us in the middle of the movie that he's able to be a sleazy defense attorney because he has faith that sometimes good people do terrible things. And Edward Norton's character seems like the perfect example of that, but then that faith is completely shattered when he finds out he's actually an irredeemable psychopath.
If I had a nickel for every film were Richard Gere played a sleazy defender lawyer I’d had two
@@frde2190 which is not a lot but it's weird it happened twice
@@yugimuto1639tell me you’re a 2000s Disney kid without telling me you’re a 2000s Disney kid
Uhm the ending to Hamilton was spoiled 300 years ago.
lol
If people ever bother to pick up a history book
Spoiled twice 😔
You have 666 likes rn
@@blackpinkluv9869 in what world is the entire story of Hamilton in an educational book
While we are on the topic of good plot twists i would tell you about the Fight Club but unfortunatelly one is not supposed to talk about the Fight Club
You’ve already said too much.
Oh my god, fight club. That fucked with me, with most of the plot twists I have already figgured it out by the end but fight club? That crushed me, it had me thinking about it days after I had watched the movie.
Pepijn vb
I can’t stop thinking of how dang good The LEGO Movie 2 twist villain was.
I remember reading the book first and watching the movie later on, so not only was my first watching of the movie technically a "rewatch," but I also had an entirely different context.
Needless to say the movie was just as, if not more enjoyable, when I knew where it was going.
I actually saw it coming, my friend told me this movie had a massive plot twist, so I got all detective and figured out they were the... not gonna spoil it😉
spoiled scooby doo for me smh. i'm only on season one
get ready for season 2 cause its a crazy roller coaster of emotions
And season 3, just amazing. Although season 4 is a slight drop in quality.
Henry McClintock scrappy doo's introduction was when it jumped the shark for me
Henry McClintock But season 5 is a pretty good one though.
I'm pretty sure that's when they SCRAPPED the show.
The best and the least predictable plot twist:
Thank you Mario!
But our princess is in another castle!
If it would say that on world 8, now that would be a super duper plot twist
aaand now I know why the plot twist in Frozen of Hans as the bad guy didn't work- it makes the same mistake as Now You See Me
melomaniac yep! Even when Anna wasn't looking at him, he was genuinely smiling as if he was in love. At the end he was just the villain for the sake of the plot because Disney doesn't know how to make a movie without one bad baddy.
exactly, it's a plot twist for the sake of a plot twist. "this is who you'd least expect to be evil!" yeah, because you provided no set up whatsoever
Dittos for the twist of the first season of Agents Of SHIELD. There is literally NO set-up for the big betrayal within the team. It really feels like just a twist the show runners pulled out of their behinds. That first season had NO rewatch value.
I wouldn't say it was exactly like Now You See Me - there were some VERY subtle hints to Hans' real intentions. The two that come to mind to me right now is when he sings "I've been searching my whole life to find my own place"; and earlier when he mentions that he has 12 older brothers. As someone who studies history, the 12-older-brothers comment stuck out to me as a red flag for "I want my own kingdom"', and the line in "Love is an Open Door" supported this, at least for me (post-movie talk, I was the only one of my friends who noticed this). I think the writers tried to give us hints, at least, but came up short.
eh i thought it was pretty obvious the whole time
When you started speaking I thought it was Velma...
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i think he did that on purpose
fightclub is a pretty obvious "best plot twist" but i think the reason that it holds up for me is that the twist isn't placed at the end of the film, the twist gives the protagonist new information and makes him have to be more active in the final sequences of the film. the twist moves the narrative, not ends it.
Jahman Davine agree
and it makes the film extremely enjoyable to watch a second time which i experienced as my first viewing as i had it spoiled a few years before watching it. I guess that study was right because I enjoyed it more than who I watched it with who hadn't had it spoiled. Every scene is changed knowing the twist
i remember knowing the plot twist long before i saw the movie. at first i thought" OK i know Tyler Durant is Edward nortan"s character so whats the point?" then i saw the movie and it blew my mind that all of that happened because of his insomnia. not only that, but because of his insanity it shows how much shit can happen even if you dont notice it right in front of you.. to this day, i fear getting insomnia because of what kind of crap Tyler went through
I was going to comment this!!
log out next time hey you could get a fight club ? 🙂😗🤷♀️
I use the same theory when I tried explaining how a plot twist works
“The best part of a plot twist is seeing the clues that lead up to it”
Ex: Usual suspects
Plot twist
THERE IS NO PLOT TWIST
Strangegrape_777 honestly that could make for a great plot twist, having suspense and make them expect something. Then lead to nothing, or something that still makes sense but is less obvious
@@andrewpereira888 basically 2001: A Space Odyssey
If M Night Shyamalan made a movie without a plot twist
Babel says hello
Strangegrape_777 no that’s an m night film
I remember crying at the end of The Sixth Sense because I was so shocked at the ending and how it made sense but you never saw it coming. Still one of my favorite movies
I cried at homosexual twist too.
I remember watching it at 9 and being scared, but it was such a good film. when the ring drops and you finally realize why his wife has been ignoring him the whole movie
@ezclap9456at the time it was released though, audiences weren’t nearly as wary of major plot twists in blockbuster movies as they are now. It was still fairly novel for the average movie-goer! Interesting to see how different audiences react
I dunno, I personally hate when a twist ending is given away before I watch something. The best way to enjoy a film or book is to watch it through without knowing, then rewatch or reread it afterwards.
Agreed! I got spoiled once in the middle of the movie then too bored to finish it
Yeah, for me the shock value is much more important than the 'I knew it' value, as most shows are quite predictable and the few instances where they caught me completely off-guard are the best plot twists. Now You See Me is a great example of plot twist *for me*
I totally agree with you. Moreover, a single isolated study does not prove anything...
Yes. It's like two movies for the price of one
Agree 100%
I hope i know my life's plot twist
The plot twist of your life is, that reality is 2d, a videogame projected on an Oculus Rift helmet's screen put over your eyes. You've been imprisoned in a bottomless pit, as your maker found iniquity in you. We are computer generated cartoons, designed to make the rest of your existence, miserable!!!11
TheMr Manav the twist is you are gonna die at the moment you expect it the least.
criztu why and how did they add progression of technology to the video game that is my life and how would it progress to such a level that the simulation of my life lies as a simulation in my life (1st simulation){oculus exists here}. This seems counterproductive as me getting further into inception would allow me to live forever if I'm deep enough inside with full power into what kind of lives i live.
Eli N.S I can take that
you secretly have aids
The plot twist in Fight Club is interesting in that the reveal is leaked out over several scenes. The movie deliberately tells you that the twist is coming and pretty much what the twist is, before it is explicitly stated and explained. And yet that doesn't seem to lessen the effect and if anything, it enhances it.
To be honest, all the leading did nothing for me as I was exactly as astonished as the main character (does he even have a name?) Seeing it a second time I asked myself 'how could I not see this?'
Intetesting take. For me it was the total opposite. I love good plot twist who caught me off guard. However, I knew the ending of Fight Club wayyyyy to soon to be enjoyable. It was maybe a bit too obvious.
The more you watch it the better it gets. The dialogue between himself is so well done. It's as psychologically done as the book! Great film
yeah, i think fight club might be even more enjoyable the 2nd time around 'cause knowing the ending you can pick up all the clues and think "wow, how did i not realize that?"
Rewatching it afterwards is great because of that. You can pick up on all the spill leading up to it
The thing with plot twists is there's a satisfaction that comes from seeing the twist unfold for the first time. The novelty of the reveal is crucial that first time. The good twists, like you say, are rewatchable because the journey to get there is still fun, and according to the study, maybe even more enjoyable since you can look for the clues along the way. But if the ending is spoiled for you, you never get that initial punch from the twist the first time, and that's what I like about them. The first time you see Primal Fear and Aaron slips up and asks if Janet was ok, when only Roy is supposed to know that she was hurt. You see Martin Vale slowly turn around looking puzzled, and you realize what just happened. That "oh shit" moment that you get the first time through and unspoiled is the payoff that you just can't get when you already know it's coming.
I think the book study it because you're able to see how the author got there rather than just going along for the ride, which is why for the second read of a plot twist book or the second watch of a plot twist film, we have way more fun looking for the evidence.
DAMMIT YOU SAID THE SAME THING AT THE END
Patrick Hogan i agree
Eli N.S yvjugggghuyygfghjjhgvvbjgggg
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Rockridge Secondary Film Nailed it.
My God “Primal Fear” is one of the best movies ever made.
Ehh not really.
I like it story and plot wise. It's an example of a movie that is "all substance and no style".
It has a great story and an amazing twist,but execution is not very good.
@@dpage446 it's boring. Doesn't follow a single genre or style.
Norton’s first movie!
Good, but nothing without Norton. Everything else was pretty forgettable.
The beauty of the plot twist for Primal Fear is not only the sudden shock of Ed Norton’s character revealing his “sanity” but that he could not be tried again in the court of law because of that. He could go on pretending he’s insane and eventually get out again to do more crimes. That’s the genius of that plot.
I really love the Vulture plot twist in Spider-Man: Homecoming. Usually, I watch the movie for the first time, get surprised, and then when I rewatch the movie it never feels nearly as good. But with Spider-Man: Homecoming, I still feel my heart drop with Peter when Michael Keaton opens the door. And then they take it even further with the scene in the car when Keaton is slowly piecing together that Peter is Spider-Man. That still makes me as uncomfortable as I was in the theater when I first saw it. Although they don’t really hint at it during the movie, it’s still a great plot twist.
Yeah, when I watched it in movie theater, man, you could feel the audience gasp. It's such a great plot twist!
some good plot twist movies:
the prestige
6th sense
fight club
shutter island
primal fear
the usual suspects
identity
the invisible guest
the game
se7en
Old boy baby
Sixth sense has a great plot twist, but doesnt dwell in it to much, making it bitter sweet. I kindve figured it out after realizing he never talks to anyone, at first I thought he was just super involved, then a few minutes before the end I realized they never showed him recovering, then when I saw my theory was true, I immediately realized how good the plot twist it.
@@masonsanders5623 Too bad you just kinda ruined it for yourself, mate, by being too smart :p
Also lucky number slevin
shutter island WAS THE MOST PLOT TWISTY like beyond the rest by far
Bro I don't think Hamilton is an example of a twist...
That's like saying the Titanic sinking was a twist in the movie.
Kazza Jaxon it’s a joke
Yeeeeaahhh lmao
Kazza Jaxon it wasn’t an example on plot twists, it was an example on how “spoiling” the ending can make it more enjoyable to watch
@Bradley James yeah like for example most people who didn't grow up in the US. That name meant nothing to us before the musical 😅
You're tellin me you saw the Titanic sinking coming??
The best thing about the Prestige plot twist I think is that you can go back and watch the movie again, but notice all the small hints to it that seem so obvious now.
I feel the same about Shutter Island
Matthew Taweel
That's literally what he said in the video
The best thing about the Prestige is that most people misunderstand the plot twist and take the "trick" to be the literal ending. The film follows its own laid out rules for deception and ends up deceiving the viewer into thinking that the machine actually worked. It never did. It was a trick.
I just read "the machine didn't work" theory and I must say, I don't buy into it. In any case it wouldn't be the best thing about the Prestige anyway, I mean did you watch this video? A good plot twist has the clues laid out for you, so the audience pick up on them, but don't figure them out before the twist. If the majority miss the twist completely or the clues are too obscure, it is not done well.
EDIT: Apparently the machine clearly works in the book, because it malfunctions due to being turned off in the middle of the progress.
Søren, I'd normally agree with you that if the majority miss the twist completely it's not done well, but this is a special case because the whole point of the film is that "you're not really looking" and "you want to be deceived" just like in a magic trick. You want to believe the machine works because it's fantastical. The film is made in such a way that it deceives you into thinking it does by letting you deceive yourself. The clues that the machine doesn't work are there if you care to look for them.
I recently watched "The Usual Suspects" for the first time.
I guessed the plot twist around halfway through. And my heart was BEATING so hard until the final second as I gathered the clues to see if I was right and when they revealed it I was ECSTATIC. Amazingly made, greatly brought, subtly hinted. Knowing / guessing the ending didn't make it boring, on the contrary.
wow spoiling Hamilton smh. I'm only on the colonial period
craftchunks lol
Is +200 years old so is fair to spoil it
OSHMKUFAHSA woosh
Meemo... OHSMKUFAHSA was also making a joke, so...
Meemo reverse uno card rip
But the plot twist in frozen that did work was that Anna and Elsa saved each other. They set up that Anna needs an act of true love to save her. And they assume a kiss will do the job, but they break that assumption and still follow the "true love" rule from earlier. It's also hinted throughout the film
HECC
are they lesbian? i haven't watched frozen
enggaksalah wrong'nt
they’re sisters.
Elsa is responsible for Anna practically dying, but then saves her although everyone thought that a romantic kind of love was needed
But the plot twist in frozen that didn't work was that Hans was a villain. That part was very poorly written
KatelynCozzi I’ve been telling people this exact thing for years. It came out of nowhere and felt sloppy
I think that study is utter bull. To me what that study says is that reading after knowing the twist is a more enjoyable experience, BUT only if you are going by the metric of 1 single read through. Spoiling first denies the enjoyment of discovering the twist. Going in blind you can get the enjoyment of not knowing, and then get the greater enjoyment of knowing when reading again. So (unspoilt + spoilt) > (spoilt).
That assumes that a reread is significantly less joyful than a first read (otherwise spoilt+spoilt still > unspoilt+spoilt since spoilt1>spoilt2). in that case however, the reread spoilt2* after unspoilt does not add anything to unspoilt that would push it over the edge over unspoilt1+unspoilt2.
I think twists work better if they are understood, therefore the story itself is opened up more and you try to make the connections over just trying to rewatch everything again. Its a very confusing thing how our mind works; we remember better if the story is interesting, sometimes it needs to mislead us to make it more interesting. But how much you mislead your audience will often or not notice a feeling of LACK of information/story, making it more bland.
I love how u lot use maths lmao
Study > your opinion
The study doesn't cover what OP describes, so OP's opinion > study.
Well I love the "plot twist" of Interstellar, I'm not sure if it actually is one, but there could have been other, yet after seeing it for 11 times - less satisfying, endings, I love how scientifically it's only explained after it, but metaphorically and through not scientific proof hinted a whole lot. It keeps you interested, partly because it can't just end boringly, we always hope for a happy end, and partly because those hints are loud, yet unexplainable without the ending (and a few re-watches recommended). I love watching a movie and after it saying "wow that's well thought out and makes sense", it's quite satisfying. Interstellar shows how wide and deep science, and specifically space, can be and is, the infinite possibilities and obviously, the Murphy's law "Whatever can happen, will happen" (slightly rephrased, from the movie). Recommend it of you haven't seen it yet!
Never realized how much plot twist and mystery is in a harry potter books
Oh shoot
every single book has a plot twist because they all have red herrings
They have slot twists in every book. Some more notable then others. They won’t ruin the book if you know thou as the books and movies are so good anyway.
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So maximize the surprise while still being logically coherent
To avoid spoiling anything I will be vague, but I completely agree with what you said about going back through a film/book/game after knowing the twist and looking for foreshadowing.
There was a video game I played recently where a supporting character (ironically one of my favourite ones) turns out to have been set up to be a somewhat tragic antagonist in a later game the entire time, and was ultimately responsible for unwittingly empowering and enabling the game's main villain. Despite fighting alongside you, and obviously only doing what he believes is right, he is ultimately responsible for every bad thing that happens in the games plot, and has further goals that make him a serious threat to life as you know it within the setting.
At one point in the story he has a conversation with another character, who is an author.
He says he doesn't like the villain of one of the author's books, saying that he prefers villains that the reader can relate to on some level.
And then the fucker literally says "A good villain could be standing beside the hero the entire time, and he would be none the wiser" but the character is so well written, and so unassuming, I didn't even bat an eye ( his unassuming nature also being a topic of much foreshadowing)
Hearing that line, knowing how that character winds up, was frankly incredible.
Richard Returns what game? I wanna play it
Richard Returns Until the second paragraph I thought you were talking about South Park: The Fractured But Whole😂
i also want to know what game that was now😀
also interested XD
Okay name of the game? That is kind of a dick move not to say it
Damn, all those spoiler warnings but none for Hamilton? Cold.
but Hamilton is real story
Eli-copter /whoosh
also if you listen to the first song in the show you'd hear it anyway...
Hamilton bAd
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I am actually a bit suprised that you didn't use the movie "Shutterisland" as an example in good plottwists.
One of the great things about shutterisland is that the reveal is believeable in every aspect even down to the different slipups from some of the people that are trying to play along despite disagree with everything is that is going on.
We learn pretty early on that the main protagonist have some serious mental issues mirroring those of the people on the Island. This however is shown as just them trying to brainwash him and make him part of the island. it isn't untill the end where everything is revealed all the small questions like "How the fuck is that old lady surviving on her own in that cave when the weather would be deadly!" and why several of the patients treat him so weirdly familiar..
It was so obvious from all the clues we had gotten but thanks to the point of view we follow throughout the whole movie it isn't as obvious.
I still believe that it could not be a plot twist but a lie...
I had never heard of this movie, thanks for bringing it to my attention, I very much enjoyed it!
@@TheKorbi That's what makes it such a great ending. It could go either way.
Definitely not a lie. So much to prove that he IS a patient
Totally agree. I have this theory that he really was an agent for the FBI, but they drugged him and tricked him into thinking he was Laeddis
I absolutely hate when endings are spoiled lol.
Sometimes knowing the ending before is the only reason you end up watching a great movie.
Tyler Durden lol, they're just giving their opinion. No need to attack them
Han solo, darth vader and the emperor die lol
I sometimes read the end of books first. Why? Cause then during the book if a scene is tough to read for some reason, maybe my favorite person is fighting with another person and it's not looking good, then I know that they're going to be ok. In emotionally tough books I know the outcome so it helps me get through tough scenes. Same with movies or tv shows, I know how the season will end so any fights or problems that happen I know what happens to solve/not solve them
Same
After having seen Game of Thrones season three (specifcally S03E09) I started reading the books. Finding all the little clues GRRM dropped made it really worth reading, even though I knew what would happen in.
Dude same! It is still rewarding for seeing all the clues and reading in between the lines as you would've if you read without the spoilers.
Spoilers for Season 4...... So in the books, Shae (Tyrion's girlfriend and a former prostitute) betrays him by testifying against him, because it turns out she never cared about him. But in the show, they changed the relationship so that she was actually in love with Tyrion. Although it made their relationship more satisfying, her betrayal in Tyrion's trial made no sense. Of course they have a bad confrontation before she leaves, but they never set up that she was so into revenge (like Cersei). So she just decides to betray her love pretty much without any explanation.
arolorn that's why my second/ third read of a book is nearly always my favorite read
ChrisFarmer Shae betrayed him because Tyrion treated her as if she was just another whore.
You just skipped the first reading of the book and jumped directly to the deconstruction part. It might still be an interesting activity but it's an intellectual one. You can imagine the shock you'd have feelt reading it but that's all.
the biggest plot twist of all is Christian Bale’s British accent
Woah, woah, woah! Scooby Doo spoilers, much? I was looking forwards to finding out who was the green guy.
So, I know most people won't believe me, but I actually saw the twist for Now You See Me coming. Although there is no logical way to get from point A to point B for determining the twist, the tagline for the movie is actually how I figured it out.
At the beginning of the movie, Jesse Eisenberg's character says "Look close, But not too close, because the more you think you see, the less you actually see." Or something to that effect.
So, as soon as the movie starting giving subtle nods that it was the female FBI agent assisting the four horseman, my sister leaned over and said "I bet it's the girl" to which I responded "I bet it's the guy". The tagline for the movie caused me to think that the subtle hints were way too obvious, so I went with the most unexpected option. Granted, not the best way to do things, but it did work well in this case. Magicians try to deter you from the actual probable outcome, so the movie, in a way, worked overall for the twist.
Final note: Spoiling it for myself that way ruined the fun of the twist at the end. Overall, I still enjoyed the movie very much.
Hahaha, this is exactly what happened when I watch it with my sister. I said, "I bet it's the girl" and my sister said, "I bet it's the guy." Though the reason why she came about it is not the way you had. She saw the possibility that Dylan is actually leading the operation to a certain false direction, being the magician's confederate while the Alma didn't have much of an effect to the team's overall direction. So if you look too closely, you see that Alma seems to be helping but if you zoom out a bit, you realise that she just seems to be doing stuff but she didn't have too strong of an influence to be an effective confederate.
I loved the plot twist in Now You See Me. I am only thirteen, but I can still understand the concept behind the plot twist. I think it was incredibly clever. Like Thaddeus's (Morgan Freeman) character stated "...and the F.B.I. Got past them not once, not twice, but consistently. Almost as if they were on the inside..." This makes perfect sense with the logic, you just have to look a little harder considering the complexity of the plot. I have watched this move many times and I love watching the end every time. It explains everything. All the unanswered questions from the movie suddenly fall into perspective. I think it's great!
I'm with you. I immediately suspected it because, well, he's the one that makes no sense, and thus would be done for the shock value.
You can enjoy the movie; that doesn't make the writing any better however, and my guess was simply an assumption of poor writing which turned out to be true.
The movie is kinda meh though. They are magicians, yet they perform some supernatural shit sometimes. I get it, they're supposed to be like, the best, but come on, it's like they really are performing actual magic sometimes.
That fact completely pulled me out of the experience. They don't have superpowers, so make the shit they do actually believable.
Well I planned on sleep for another 30 minutes. Looks like that isn't happening. Im still kinda groggy though so I might not be able to see it...
Before The Credits
I'm pretty tired right now so I can't see what you're trying to say..
( =_=)
Are you all incredibly high? Your sentences make no sense. Alone maybe; but the first one seems like a response.
So: What? Why? Who are you communicating to?
I'll just ask myself those questions and move along..
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haha i saw what you did there
The guilty (it's a danish film) had such an amazing plot twist. All my feelings for every character just shifted with one line. Also, the plottwist was when the film was 3/4 over. So they set up how the other characters dealt with it perfectly.
C.S. Lewis talks about this when it comes to re-reading a book in his essay "On Stories" to give a small idea of what he has to say, "The re-reader is looking not for actual surprises (which can only happen once) but for a certain suprisingness.... It is the quality of unexpectedness, not the fact that delights us. It is even better the second time." In short he thinks that a good reader or in general a good observer of stories is able to relish the path leading to the surprise or plot twist! I think it's an interesting way to look at things and explains why we often re-watch and re-read stories we enjoy!! Great video also look forward to your content.
I read somewhere that there are three kinds of plot twists.
1. "Wait, what?" This is a complete shock ending with little chance of the viewer being clued in beforehand. Sometimes it works well, but if poorly executed the viewer will feel cheated.
2. "Heck yeah!" This is a twist that isn't too hard to figure out beforehand. The viewer gets a feeling of satisfaction and pride, but such a twist has little to no shock value.
3. "Oh riiight...!" A balance of buildup and surprise, where the answer is often hidden in plain sight. Things got confusing, but everything makes sense after the reveal takes place. To do this effectively takes masterful writing, but it's worth it.
Now you see me's plot twist made no sense because there where scenes where the cop was chasing the magicians when no one was around. The scenes were there just to fool the audience not the characters in the movie. I thought was a terrible movie with loads of plot wholes.
You can kiss my whole plot hole!
On the contrary, I loved the plot twist in Now You See Me. I am only thirteen, but I can still understand the concept behind the plot twist. I think it was incredibly clever. Like Thaddeus's (Morgan Freeman) character stated "...and the F.B.I. Got past them not once, not twice, but consistently. Almost as if they were on the inside..." This makes perfect sense with the logic, you just have to look a little harder considering the complexity of the plot. I have watched this move many times and I love watching the end every time. It explains everything. All the unanswered questions from the movie suddenly fall into perspective. I think it's great, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
GalaxyGurrl9000 the plot twist fixes the plot holes; however, the plot holes absolutely do not hint at what is happening until the reveal. This isn't how good writing works. If you are going to leave clues, they should be subtle, but someone whom is paying VERY close attention should be able to work it out; this is nowhere near the case in now you see me.
Also, am I the only one whom takes issue with now you see me 2? Call it Now you don't ffs
I do agree with you on some levels. I completely respect you're opinion and understand your point of view, although I still stand by what I said.
The plot twist is terrible, there is no logic behind the "magic", and the sequel oh my god. I kinda amazed how these movies was a hit in my country
What an amazing video! I hated the plot twist of Now You See Me and you've nailed it on the head as to why.
Still not as bad as Detroit Become Human
your likes are spelled out as "ninety four" wtff is happening
That movie was garbage written by an 8 year old.
@@danatronics9039 That cyberlife was controlling Connor? Not really. It sucked because we all loved him, but it was foreshadowed and it made sense.
J Arnett nah i think they were talking about alice being an android all along because everyone is still pissed about it
Best plot twist: Usual suspects
Nope
Acceptable answer - uninspired though.
Holy shit yes. I saw the sixth sense's plot twist from a mile away but The Usual Suspects had me guessing the *entire* movie. They even had me fully believing that it was Keaton in the end before the double plot twist hit. it was fantastic.
That's because The Usual Suspects doesn't urge you to guess. It presents no clues that you're even supposed to care who Keyser Soze is, doesn't provide any clues through the film to make it so you could guess, then tries to tell you it fooled you at the end. Crappy plot twist. It wasn't even in the original cut of the film. They called everyone back in post-production to shoot the final scene.
To compare it to The Sixth Sense, it would be like if Shyamalan called everyone back to shoot a new ending where nobody was dead and the whole world was just playing a prank on the child.
CrashSable There was actually an abundance of clues throughout the whole thing and nothing will stop the movie from being considered to have one of if not the best plot twist in cinematic history. I knew exactly what the Sixth sense's plot twist was after the first scene and got annoyed that they were just beating around the bush about it the whole movie.
He should have said he was going to spoil Scooby doo. >:(
oh I wish you talked about Shutter Island! I think that movie will always go down in my book as one of the greatest plot twists in cinematic history. Not only is the twist awesome but it is so fun to go back and watch the background characters after knowing how the movie ends! I will never get tired of that movie!!
I was looking for someone to mention shutter island! My favorite plot twist of all time
I could not even believe it. I searched a video explaining the ending and then he went over all the small details showing it is indeed true. I was so mind blown. That movie does indeed probably have one if not the best plot twists ever
Who wants to talk about the Bioshock plot twist?
...Which one?
Milk He probably refers to "Would you kindly".
Alva yep the plot twist worked really well to me
I have never finished Bioshock, never gotten far, but I'm amazed by this :D I don't even care about this plot-twist spoiler at all :D
would you kindly not do that?
Good plot twists honestly make the movie even more rewatchable because now you look for clues leading up to it.
Bro I never saw that fight club twist coming it was so good
"I'm the damn fool that shot him."
I don't care where I am, I'll also yell ALEXANDER HAMILTON!
How about when the reader/viewer is lulled into a false ending? Like in Atonement? I think that's one of the best plot twists ever, and it still gets me every time.
That ending murdered me. The moment it was revealed I was so in shock and then it was only tears tears tears and I couldn't calm down.
That is such a miserable movie. One of my faves
Pia Fortuna how about The Mist, that one fucked me up.
+enggaksalah wrongn't The Mist fucked everyone up. 😂
A movie I found totally rewatchable after the plot twist is Fight Club. Just... Is like seeing another movie, so awesome!
I think that explains why the plot twists in Fantastic beasts 1 & 2 were so unsatisfying.
Ik I was just like, oh okay
I legitimately didn't really get much from this video or understand what makes a good plot twist from a bad one besides "It's not out of nowhere".
You pretty much nailed it.
Oh. Well okay then, I guess. :p
Yeah this was actually a really bad video. He said nothing insightful or interesting.
He clearly said "Provide your audience with just enough to see it coming but not enough to expect it."
Plot twist! That was his intention all along.
I think a story works better if you know the twist because it's kinda like seeing it two times simultaneously.
Knowing the ending twist you immerse yourself in the story, And observe how the twist came to be.
If I were to do a follow up study, getting each group to reread the books, I bet that the previously spoiled group would rate the second reading as significantly less satisfying than the first one, while the unspoiled one might even say it's better.
So I think it's ok to have Now you see me spoiled, as it's a movie that I watched once and have no desire of seeing again. But If you spoil Fight Club for me, I will enjoy it more the first time, but I'll also lose much of the joy of that second rewatching, and in the same style, the second will take away from the third and so on.
Ionme a
Well I am pretty immersed anyway, what you are talking about is a subtle difference.
I agree on the last point, that's an implication of watching the movie "two times simultaneously"
I'd say that this same principle applies to movie trailers.
you aren't really seeing it twice you're more like skipping the first watch. the beauty of seeing it twice it to see it without knowing the plot twist the first time around.
a lot of good books and movies can hint things so well that you can watch it many times and still figure out new things.
UGH! I can’t believe you just spoiled that scooby-doo episode for me...I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ONE!
*Primal Fear*
*Primal Fear 2: Fight Club*
The more you think the more it makes sense.....?
Why did you make me think about that?
I think the perfect example is American Beauty, because the movie tells you right in the beginning that the main character is going to be murdered. Then the movie introduces the characters and shows their reasons to kill him.
Nicholas Johnson yeah the movie is still interesting even if you knew right away that he was going to die. The most interesting part was the character developments that lead to his death. By telling us the end, the movie makes us pay more attention to the journey than the destination and really the journey in a movie is the most important.
Nicholas Johnson on a similar tangent, the detective show Hercule Poirot also worked by showing who killed who and how, because the show was about how Poirot was able to find clues, figure it out, and trick the murderer into thinking that the detective is a clueless idiot until the last second.
The best part is the real murderer is the only one that doesn't have a clear motive but it makes perfect sense anyway.
5:05 OML I WAS JUST ABOUT TO TURN OFF THE VIDEO AND LISTEN TO HAMILTON AND YOU THROW THIS ON LIKE TF
Ian Daley you had 200 years to find out
I saw primal fear after learning about the plot twist, and the movie still sticks with me. Fantastic plot twist.
A good plot twist was Moana. It never felt expected but was completely satisfying.
Honestly, for me....it felt forced
Yeah, just felt like an easy way out for the writers.
Moana has a plot twist?
How was there a plot twist..? It was too obvious😐
@@celine.nm888 it doesn't matter if it's obvious to you or not, (I don't know how you guessed the fire demon was actually the mountain lady, but whatever) it's still a plot twist.
When my school bully told me that my dad was gay, jokes on him I have 2 lesbian moms
*PLOT TWIST*
*gay
WOW
Your life is really great man
What, your dad was MALE!!!
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Q: How to do a plot twist?
A: Ask Christopher Nolan
I think you misspelled M. Night Shyamlan
Or David Fincher
@@sankarsshanansundararajan8829 nice one 👍👍👍👍
The Prestige is SO under rated
P Hirokashimoto it's not. I've never heard of someone who didn't like the movie.
I think this is a case of : " saying something is SO underrated when it is not is SO overdone."
If everyone likes it, it can't be underrated
wouldnt say its under rated its in the top 50 movies of all time on imdb
maybe not enough people have seen it, that's more appropriate
so, should i read the half life 3 ending?
no
yes as the game isn't gonna come out
THE GAME IS COMING OUT SOME DAY OH GREAT LORD AND SAVIOUR OF MANKIND GABE NEWELL HE WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN I AM IN DENIAL MAKE THE VOICES STOP
Yeah. Do it. What was leaked was HL2: Episode 3 plot, not HL3 really. Most people think they're the same thing, but they're not.
Lozah the game isn't gonna come out but the lead writer just posted the whole storyline online after his NDA expired
4:50-As a dark mode user who was watching this at night...
...This killed me!
me too man
spoilers are ok if they are small. revealing the death of a major loved character in a book will take away the desire to read it. same applies to movie and tv series.
I'd agreed. If you know a character dies, you sort of lose attachment to them, because you know what their fate will be. Since deaths aren't often foreshadowed either, you can't go spoiling those. Other things though can sometimes work.
Part way through a TV/Book/Movie Series, learning a death might not be quite so bad as you've got the attachment (still better if they don't spoil it though).
@@DynoKea This was not the case in Romeo and Juliet.
@@lopoikjones4774 Fair point...
Nothing I can say to defend my case there...
Well,sometimes knowing a character will die makes you wonder how/when/why they would die.. it makes reading/watching the show more exciting(? i dont know a better word)
Happens to me when I got spoiled that Margaery (from GoT) was gonna die
I'm sorry, but this video doesn't actually say much.
It asks the question "How To Do A Plot Twist", but the only answer it really gives is "Make sure you set up enough clues"
Well, no duh... That's incredibly basic and it also doesn't actually explain HOW to do a plot twist.
HOW does a movie make sure they include enough information to not be as sudden as Now You See Me, but not too much to obvious as Scooby Doo?
Peter Townsend EXACTLY
Peter Townsend incredibly basic, yet most movies don't do it, they just pull a twist out of someone's ass, with no context or foreshadow.
Exactly...the concept is basic, but most people don't know how to pull it off well; and this video doesn't actually explain that part.
Peter Townsend yeah, it doesn't really explain anything for the people who already knew this. It's more for the dumb people who think something utterly unexpected is an awesome twist
I mean he can't really give any better advice than "include information for the audience". It totally depends on what it is you're making. I've only seen Primal Fear once, but from what I remember I don't think you could deduce that he was faking the illness before you're told. But if you were adapting an Agatha Christie novel for film, then you have to include enough information for people to actually figure out who's the culprit before being told.
My ringtone is the scooby-doo theme song so every time it played i thought i was getting a call.
Plot twists are some of the best things in Hollywood, if they are done perfectly! If you have a great story and an insanely awesome twist ending, makes the experience and movie EVEN BETTER! Great explanation man.
I just started on RUclips as well, a month ago. Hope to hear from you. Keep up the great work!
That primal fear ending is still give me the creep, goddamn scary movie
Classic example - TV series Columbo
Good example. The killer and even how he does the murder is revealed right at the start of the episode and then the fun comes from seeing Columbo trying to piece everything together in order to catch the killer.
I dunno... No one watches Columbo expecting a whodunnit-type mystery with a surprising ending that could be ruined by a spoiler. It's all about the psychological war between an arrogant killer and a smart cop who knows the truth all along, in most cases from the very first meeting. It's totally different from watching a whodunnit with a prior knowledge of "who." ETA: I know that a really good mystery movie could be enjoyable even after the twist is spoiled. I'm just saying Columbo is not a particularly good example.
Murder she wrote is also similiar
I always watched it with my granddad when he was still alive even tho I didn't understand shit. Ahhhh the memorys.
that plot twist on THE USUAL SUSPECTS though!
How are you not gonna talk about The Usual Suspects? One of the best plot twists of all time.
Kevin yeah that sex scene caught me off guard
That he confessed he is a criminal and now chose to live as a gay man ?
Now You See Me killed me with that plot twist. And the sequel isn’t even on Netflix. 😭
*Shaggy blessed this video*
YO WHAT THE HECK
OUT OF THE BLUE, I WATCHED THAT EXACT SCOOBY DOO EPISODE DTFYGH
The Sixth Sense and Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back have some of the best plot twists in my opinion
Darth Sheevious Ikkkkk
The Saw franchise twists got very ridiculous after a while, but never disregard the first Saw movie’s Plot Twist
Does anyone remember the plot twist in 'High Tension' (AKA 'Switchblade Romance' in UK)?
Not only did that come out of nowhere, but it also made the earlier scenes of the movie make no sense.
ProjectGlaive yeah and it's too bad because otherwise it's an amazing horror film. Didn't need that twist.
0:34 This is something i love to do with books, I read the last few pages or chapters, and it makes the book more fun b/c i try to figure out why the books ends that way
Movies without Plot Twists can either be refreshing or leave it feeling empty, like something is missing and that's probably why a lot of movies shove one in there, because they feel they need one
The best plot twist of all time it's the multi emotion dad of Gene in The Emoji Movie.
El Cítrico I agree.
El Cítrico obviously I think that is just so good that the movie critics got blinded by the scene and forgot to but five more zeros after there score.
I love it when a study decides for me that a spoiler won't ruin my enjoyment of subject matter so I don't have to think about it for myself.
After all, if I know all along a character in dire straits will die, and where and when, thr fact that that renders 100% of the tension up until that exact moment means I can more thoroughly enjoy... the scenery?
As to spoiling twists, these researchers asked the wrong question from the very beginning. If knowing the twist rendered the movie unenjoyable, nobody would ever watch The Usual Suspects again. It's a dimwitted question.
Spoiling a twist, specifically, changes the viewing experience, making it more akin to a second view of the movie or show, a second reading of the book or serial, whichever.
I can still enjoy reading Murder on the Orient Express, but the spoiler forever robbed me of the experience of being in the dark until the final illumination. It did not "ruin" a wonderful book, but it did indelibly alter my reading experience, especially my first reading of the book.
Fun little fact, my dad told me about the ending of Shawshank Redemption one or two (maybe three) days before we actually watched it. Oddly enough, I didn't consciously recall those spoilers, and I was so in the moment that I didn't think about what could be coming up. Remember that conscious expectations and subconscious expectations aren't always the same thing, but you may be able to play to both in a single sentence.
“Us” had the best plot twist I have ever seen. Gut wrenching and makes you feel wrong
My favourite plot twist in a movie is in usual suspects at the end
Also seven
On spoilers in general, I think the issue isn't that you won't like it, but that you lose the chance for an experience that can't be had after you know a spoiler. Rewatching something and seeing all the pieces come together is a very satisfying experience, but seeing if the events on screen will sway me without knowing how to interpret them is an experience I can only have if I don't have that knowledge beforehand.
i paused before he spoiled NYSM bc i hadnt seen it, went and watched both films, and have now come back and finished the video
I'm sorry, but every time I see this thumbnail I think, "Oh Tom Scott has a video on film making?"
Why tf is Tom Scott in the thumbnail?
the black prism book series is what cemented in my mind the clear distinction between a good twist and a bad twist. A good twist surreptitiously coaxes you towards the truth and lays bare the incongruousness of the lie, but still demands the attention of the reader. When you at last grasp the twist, you feel compelled to go back and review the narrative for all the clues you missed.
Nothing about The Usual Suspects really that's an awesome plot twist.
What makes the Usual Suspects good is not knowing there's a twist. He would have spoilt it just by mentioning the film.
Isn’t it a perfect counterargument for his stance though?
I don't know how but all throughout the movie I knew it was him
Resh Mant It's the first scene. It makes no sense if Keaton is Keyser Söze.