Windows Just Suffered a Really Bad Outage... (+ Reasons to Ditch Windows)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @PenguinByte
    @PenguinByte  9 дней назад

    Looking back I got a good bit of criticism for this video, and while I stand by what I said in it, I definitely could have focused more on why the Crowdstrike incident was such a bad thing and what about it should make you considering leaving Windows. I was too excited and also a bit rushed when making the video, and didn't really think it through fully and properly, nor organize it very well (for example the little clip I recorded about the kernel should've been said in the Crowdstrike Outage section). Most of the reasoning for why the Crowdstrike incident was bad was me arguing with Windows fanboys in the comments, and it would definitely be better for more of those questions to be addressed in the video lol

  • @Girgoo
    @Girgoo 3 месяца назад +13

    Having CrowdStrike as argument to move away from Windows is bad. The same issue already happened with Linux and CrowdStrike. The problem is the CrowdStrike software. Skip using CrowdStrike until they have fixed their routines to have proper testing.

  • @ebyepy
    @ebyepy 3 месяца назад +1

    Honestly I've been thinking about ditching windows for a WHILE now, it's just really intimidating as someone who's most advanced computer knowledge is opening task manager to force shut a frozen app... It's stressful thinking about losing all your files on accident, or going through the whole process just for Linux to end up being an unsafe option too in the future. Tech is scary in general :/

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      Linux is definitely a safe option because it’s open source, so it can’t be controlled by one central company or person, but it can definitely be difficult to switch to at first, not because learning Linux is difficult, but because unlearning Windows is. I’ve been using Linux for a while, and even though I love using the terminal, you can do everything you do in Windows in a GUI, conveniently. I came from macOS which I used for about 6 years and must say Linux is actually easier to use, specifically the GNOME DE, but if you’re coming from Windows you may want smth like Mint. It can definitely be intimidating to switch because it’s a whole different operating system and of course functions very differently, but there are many ways to ease the switch. If you wanna switch, you can start by using FOSS apps on Windows, or regular Windows apps that are also available on Linux, many are these days, and then that will make the transition much easier.

  • @LaSpookyPR
    @LaSpookyPR Месяц назад +1

    I feel this one of the reason we had such a huge spike in linux user I started to noticed after all those airports got taken down in that windows bug that made people not boot

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  Месяц назад +1

      yea... left ppl with a sour taste in the mouth. Even though it didn't affect personal computers, it revealed how obsolete and insecure the cobweb-ridden code of the NT kernel is.

    • @LaSpookyPR
      @LaSpookyPR Месяц назад +1

      @@PenguinByte people at work know I’m tech savy I’m always fixing stuff and they asked me how to solve it I was just like don’t use windows 💀

    • @LaSpookyPR
      @LaSpookyPR Месяц назад +1

      @@PenguinByte really some people were complaining at work how their pc was getting blue screen and windows said a bug in their kernel saw it on the new like air ports and people couldn’t even go home

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  Месяц назад +1

      @@LaSpookyPR lol exactly, it’s time to dump that OS. Also Microsoft still allowing kernel access in 2024 is a stupid idea. Even when ppl thought they were gonna lock it after the Crowdstrike bs, turns out that was false and Microsoft was looking into other ways for allowing kernel level programs like anti cheats. Linux has never allowed kernel access from the very beginning and even macOS has locked kernel access a few years ago.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  Месяц назад +1

      @@LaSpookyPR That’s why relying on operating systems like Windows is a dangerous move. Ofc Linux isn’t perfect, it isn’t unbreakable or unhackable, but Windows is a whole other level of outdated when it comes to security. That’s also why most of the server and embedded space chooses Linux, it is extremely flexible and stable. I’ve barely used Windows but one time I did, it just BSODed for seemingly no real reason.

  • @proverbs11vs30
    @proverbs11vs30 3 месяца назад +1

    awesome content, thank you 🙂

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks! I appreciate it :)

  • @sw11500
    @sw11500 2 месяца назад

    I literally installed fedora today before seeing this video and honestly I've already broken it just trying to get a set of disks i set up in windows as dynamic working...
    I'm pretty sure it's not my time to ditch windows

  • @ELMVD
    @ELMVD 3 месяца назад +1

    How did CrowdStrike even let that happen 🤦

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      For such a big corporation it’s embarrassing lmao

  • @LaSpookyPR
    @LaSpookyPR Месяц назад +1

    I laugh every time a windows things happends lmao 😂😂😂 this is rich

  • @muzspamz
    @muzspamz 3 месяца назад +1

    nice

  • @sam11182
    @sam11182 3 месяца назад +2

    its time to ditch Micro$oft, Windows is pretty good. I run all my other operating systems on my Windows 10 through VPN's

  • @Lytervfx
    @Lytervfx 3 месяца назад +4

    Thats crowdstrike my boy

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      @@Lytervfx It’s CrowdStrikes fault for releasing the buggy software, but it’s Windows’s fault for letting it happen, and letting one buggy update to a program crash the entire system

    • @_elegans_
      @_elegans_ 3 месяца назад +1

      @@PenguinByte How is it Windows' fault? Blaming Windows for this is like downloading malware, giving it admin privileges, and then complaining when your files get deleted.
      Linux also experienced kernel crashes due to _CrowdStrike_ according to _Tom's Hardware_ btw.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@_elegans_ regarding Linux yes there were some kernel panics, but it was on a much larger scale with Windows and caused more damage, and regarding the malware comparison, that’s comparing malware which takes advantage of security holes to penetrate and damage the system to a program given kernel privileges by Windows, then getting an update with a bug that wrecks the whole system. Linux and macOS have dumped kernel level privileges for programs a while ago. The CrowdStrike incident is one of many that pass by from time to time, proving how poorly written Windows and the NT kernel are.

  • @isaacolukanni
    @isaacolukanni 3 месяца назад +5

    I still can't get over the hair 😭

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +2

      lmao it'll be back

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @Mr_Netha lmao

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      when I was 13 I sounded like I was 8 lol, it suddenly changed when I turned 14 tho

  • @abc-oo8ce
    @abc-oo8ce 3 месяца назад +1

    Just saying, linux also got it's own outage

    • @abc-oo8ce
      @abc-oo8ce 3 месяца назад +1

      But ditching windows is a good idea

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@abc-oo8ce it did, Linux is not perfect and it also gets outages, but it caused much more damage, also on a much larger scale with Windows

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@abc-oo8ce absolutely

  • @MainframeSupertasker
    @MainframeSupertasker 3 месяца назад +1

    My 2022 windows 10 is working real well ngl

    • @dumbfloppa
      @dumbfloppa 3 месяца назад +1

      Wait until you lose support and try to upgrade to windows 11 only to get stuck in a bsod loop.

    • @MainframeSupertasker
      @MainframeSupertasker 3 месяца назад

      @@dumbfloppa i dont even need support for windows 10, i BANNED updates from happening, and i hate win 11 its bloatware trash horrible UI

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      Those updates will probably re-enable themselves which has happened to many ppl, and using Windows 10 even when its lifecycle ends makes your computer more prone to hackers, sooo… great that’s working for ya rn, problems could arise in the future tho

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez 3 месяца назад +2

    Great video, watching on KDE Neon. Love the new hair cut.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@esra_erimez thank you :D

  • @DV-ml4fm
    @DV-ml4fm 3 месяца назад +4

    At least linux knows how to do system updates.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      @@DV-ml4fm lmao fr 😂💀

    • @Spiderfffun
      @Spiderfffun 3 месяца назад

      funnily enough linux had the same issue a while ago
      due TO THE SAME EXACT COMPANY
      crowdstrike managing to strike the crowds (who would've thought)

    • @DV-ml4fm
      @DV-ml4fm 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@PenguinByte Yeah, windows has a history of many bad updates. I remember reading about an update that deleted users' files. Lol

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      @@DV-ml4fm yea ofc lol, it’s been way worse, deleting user files is the top of the iceberg, there’s alot more that’s been done

    • @DV-ml4fm
      @DV-ml4fm 3 месяца назад +2

      @@PenguinByte Exactly 👍👍👍. Thanks for another great video. Let's hope some will switch to linux for good.

  • @LaSpookyPR
    @LaSpookyPR Месяц назад +1

    Microsoft is not to be trusted 😂

  • @Jesterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    @Jesterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 3 месяца назад +2

    what im confused about is the fact that theyre running the most unstable OS known to mankind on airlines and hospitals

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      @@Jesterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Ikr lol, so true

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +3

      @@Jesterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr luckily most embedded devices and servers run Linux, if smth similar happened to Linux the entire world could come to a halt, but it’s still alarming how many devices in the corporate field use Windows, these disasters caused by the horribly written Windows code and permissions is truly dangerous

  • @gnomestech
    @gnomestech 3 месяца назад +3

    Y2K is back 💀

  • @SeanRiley-s2f
    @SeanRiley-s2f 2 месяца назад

    Microsoft is a trillion dollar company. Linux simply can't compete against such vast resources.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  2 месяца назад +1

      @@SeanRiley-s2f Windows Server would be the default server OS if that were the case, but of course that’s far from the case. Money and resources does not necessarily make a better and more successful product. Also fyi, many larger companies fund Linux, like Google who wants it to improve because Google uses Linux for their products (ChromeOS, Android) and internally (GLinux). Linux has tons of some of the largest companies in the world funding it, it’s not some small operating system only made by a handful of people who joined the community and maintain it as a hobby

    • @SeanRiley-s2f
      @SeanRiley-s2f 2 месяца назад +1

      @@PenguinByte Thanks for educating a windows junkie, lol.

  • @VOYSTAN
    @VOYSTAN 3 месяца назад

    Yes there are problems with windows but for most people windows is so much better because its more user friendly. For gaming linux is way better then it was because of valve but still windows is king. Linux is also harder to set up(windows comes baked in for most users) and i tried linux once and its way harder to change anything(I used ubuntu).

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@VOYSTAN Idk when you tried Ubuntu or what you tried to do, but from my experience Linux is extremely user friendly, and from the times I’ve tried Windows, I’ve tried it a few times and Linux is a lot more intuitive, the reason many find Windows easier is because they get used to it from years and years of using it. Also yes, Linux is not perfect for gaming yet, but it’s getting there really quickly. Regarding Linux vs Windows being baked in, there are actually some really good Linux hardware companies like us.starlabs.systems and many others, but sadly yea most machines come preinstalled with Windows these days. And regarding installation and setup, Linux from my experience is extremely easy, if you compared it to Windows’s installation and setup atleast, ofc depending on the distro. In 2024 especially, just recently Linux was much more difficult than it is now. But you will usually never need to touch Windows’s installer because it’s almost always preinstalled.

  • @dumbfloppa
    @dumbfloppa 3 месяца назад +1

    Good video but next time use less sound effects they get distracting.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      The style of videos is more edited and has more effects, but thanks for the feedback! I will look into it

    • @Spiderfffun
      @Spiderfffun 3 месяца назад +1

      I'd say not less, just quieter.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      @@Spiderfffun fair enough, thanks for the feedback ya’ll!

    • @esra_erimez
      @esra_erimez 3 месяца назад +1

      I think the sound effects were fine.

  • @photonboy999
    @photonboy999 3 месяца назад +2

    *more info on Crowdstrike*
    ruclips.net/video/ZHrayP-Y71Q/видео.html
    SOME of this is on Microsoft, but not Windows. Educate yourself better before making another, stupid "ditch Windows" video. I studied computers. I've built tonnes of PC's. Linux is better in many ways, but it certainly isn't ready for ME let alone a lot of average people.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@photonboy999 If you know anything about Linux in the modern day, you would know the overall GUI and operating system is just as user friendly if not more user friendly than Windows. Especially distros like Ubuntu, Mint, and Fedora, but of course also plenty of others.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@photonboy999 also yes of course, part of the blame falls on CrowdStrike’s Falcon Sensor, but in the end it’s the fault of Windows for letting such an outage happen. Linux and macOS would not let that happen, atleast in the way that it did.

    • @Twe-m5e
      @Twe-m5e 3 месяца назад

      @@PenguinByte Cloudstrike should have tested the driver on a VM before pushing it to the machines running cloudstrike software. How is microsoft supposed to know that? They're not behind cloudstrike

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      @@Twe-m5e maybe by not allowing kernel access? And not giving such high privileges to a program? Sure, no OS is perfect, but Windows’s terrible design allows these bugs to completely wreck all these computers, it’s dangerous

    • @dumbfloppa
      @dumbfloppa 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Twe-m5e Im 99% sure the problem came when uploading the file since the file is all zero's.

  • @under6075
    @under6075 3 месяца назад

    To say that only Microsoft deserves all the blame and not the crowd strike and also use it as an excuse to tell people to switch to Linux is incredibly stupid the only reason this wasn't prevented is because of an agreement Microsoft made with the EU dating as far back as 2009. Essentially what this agreement did was allow third-party applications to have access to the Windows kernel and since companies have to comply with EU law Microsoft was forced to allow an IT outage of this scale to happen eventually so essentially the conditions needed for this to happen was sewed 15 years ago which Microsoft had absolutely no control over so while technically although its partial crowd strikes fault I do think the other organization we should be blaming is the EU
    And sure even if Microsoft can't be blamed for this Linux Is still much better (I'm still thinking about switching when I get the chance) it's far from perfect yes I know gaming is getting much better but people don't use operating systems exclusively for gaming and in other fields, Linux still has some issues h.265 support is lacking for video in web browsers DPI scaling on the desktop is still quite weird and for some people, there is the deal breaker that there is no adobe support if you care about that and there aren't plans for Linux support anytime soon and yes there is GIMP and on its own it's great by its own standards but you still can't outline text, draw shapes, no adjustment layers, no layers and that's if you can find where anything is with the confusing UI
    ok but what about Windows 10 EOL in October of 2025 wouldn't that cause a massive influx of new users? no, that's unlikely because let's face it many computer users are not going to throw away everything they ever knew about Windows just to switch to an obscure operating system that is dependent on a very spooky thing called the operating system terminal that in their mind offers fewer benefits they are gonna suck it up and install win11 on unsupported machines with methods like bypassing tpm secure boot and other requirements or by a new one that has win11 pre-installed and even if they did what if they work as an employee in a business that uses windows machines for their employees will then they are still technically using windows to some extent and if not then what if distros that are frequently praised for user friendliness which Microsoft has mastered since windows 95 like mint and ubuntu and have gotten tired of those and want to dabble into other distros well then their options are quite limited
    So although I appreciate that you are trying to get people to switch to Linux to use the IT outage as a reason to convince people to do so is just not effective.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@under6075 I did not put the full blame on Microsoft, CrowdStrike also gets a good portion of the blame for making the buggy software, but Windows allowed it. And the contract between the EU and Microsoft says 3rd party software should have the same abilities as Microsoft products so that Microsoft doesn’t get an unfair advantage, this is no a no excuse to make a poorly designed system that allows a bug like this to crash the system and render it temporarily inoperable, the operating system could be built to handle such situations much better than it did.
      And regarding me using it as a reason against using Windows, to it’s not a direct reason, more just pointing out the consequences of Microsoft’s poorly built system and how large they can be.
      Also many Linux distros don’t require the command line at all, and are as easy to use if not easier than Windows. Unlearning Windows can be very heard tho, especially after using it for years. And ofc Linux isn’t perfect, but it’s developed a ton and continues to do so, incorporating more and more of those regular features and ironing out bugs. Also GIMP isn’t the only alternative to Photoshop, and you may not want to be using Adobe products after the things Adobe has done. If you need such professional software, there is tons of professional options to basically every Adobe app on Linux. And GIMP is getting a large update soon which will majorly improve it.
      Also everyone seems to be completely ignoring the fact that the IT outage was not the only point I made against using Windows.

    • @under6075
      @under6075 3 месяца назад

      @@PenguinByte Honestly I wouldn't have blamed Microsoft for not seeing this coming if you asked anyone before July 19th, 2024 if say a random cybersecurity company rolled out an update that contained a signal bad line of code that when the update was published singlehandedly bricked millions of devices and sent businesses into chaos they may not have believed you thus why I didn't call out Microsoft for not putting more protections against stuff like this
      and for basic tasks like opening and switching between applications shutting down and rebooting your computer Linux is great in these fields however in terms of to-name examples managing device services firewall configuration device security backup versioning and advanced configuration is it really still the case?
      Also, what do you mean by unlearning Windows if I switched to Linux from Windows 11 right now and then after a few years I switch back to Windows but this time it's a future version of it assuming there aren't too many changes would I really need to learn how to use Windows all over again and then let's say I switch to Linux again would I really need to learn how to use that too?
      Also apparently crowd strike crashed the Debian and Rocky distributions of Linux a few months ago but nobody noticed so wouldn't that mean only those distributions at the very least are poorly designed?

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@under6075 1. True, CrowdStrike takes some of the blame, but again Windows let it happen,this could’ve been avoidable, atleast compared how bad it got.
      2. Yes, Linux excels at such more advanced tasks.
      3. By unlearning, I mean the following. No matter how bad an operating system is, if you use it for most or all your life, the you get used to the workflow, it becomes muscle memory, so when you try a different operating system it’s a completely different experience, different workflow, etc. Because of muscle memory and being used to the previous layout, even if the new operating system is very easy to use, it can be hard to break muscle memory and routine that’s lasted for years. Regarding if you were to move back to Windows or again Linux in the future, it depends, if you would’ve used either for a while and gotten used to them, you would have experience with them, unless it’s been like a decade since you’ve used the, and significant changes have been made.
      4. Yes, CrowdStrike did cause kernel panics for Debian and RedHat Enterprise Linux systems, Linux is not perfect, nor is it immune to breakage, no OS is, but it was much easier to recover from and not nearly as on the scale as the Windows outage. It also didn’t cause nearly as much critical system breakage as in Windows. If it were as bad, the entire world could come to a halt as most servers and embedded devices use Linux.

  • @RarGamez
    @RarGamez 3 месяца назад +4

    nah i say we stick with windows

    • @dumbfloppa
      @dumbfloppa 3 месяца назад +1

      Why suffer for no reason?

    • @Debiano_Banano
      @Debiano_Banano 3 месяца назад +2

      Enjoy your spyware.

    • @RarGamez
      @RarGamez 3 месяца назад

      @@Debiano_Banano ngl idc

    • @RarGamez
      @RarGamez 3 месяца назад

      @@dumbfloppa because have you ever tried not even half the games on windows are on mac or linux

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@RarGamez Gaming on Linux is actually really good now, you can run tons of Windows-only games smoothly, and many games are also natively supported

  • @Twe-m5e
    @Twe-m5e 3 месяца назад +2

    It's cloudstrike's fault for pushing shitty driver. If you're not using cloudstrike, you're not even affected, so stop talking crap and spreading bs!

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@Twe-m5e CrowdStrike’s is not the only reason I listed, and yes it only affects work computers that use CrowdStrike, but it’s Windows’s fault for letting such an outage happen and still giving apps the ability to have kernel privileges.

    • @Twe-m5e
      @Twe-m5e 3 месяца назад

      ​ @PenguinByte No it's not? What level of stupidity are you on that you don't understand that this has nothing to do with microsoft because they're not the ones that pushed crappy driver!

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      Windows gave the software kernel access my guy, letting a bug in a software update crash your whole system is the OS's fault.

  • @igfoobar
    @igfoobar 3 месяца назад +12

    It is always a good time to ditch Windows. Doesn't matter how badly crowdstrike messed up -- the operating system shouldn't allow it. The blame falls squarely on Microsoft.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +2

      Exactly, on point 🎯

    • @photonboy999
      @photonboy999 3 месяца назад +1

      It's not the fault of Windows.
      I agree it's in large part the fault of Microsoft. The driver was signed, however Crowdstrike had links from the driver to an update folder that were NOT signed thus defeating the entire point of having the driver signed by Microsoft.
      It's Crowdstrike's fault for implementation. It's Microsoft's fault for insufficient oversite.
      ruclips.net/video/ZHrayP-Y71Q/видео.html
      (there's a previous video at same site too)

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад +1

      @@photonboy999 yes of course, it’s not entirely Microsoft’s fault, CrowdStrike’s Falcon Sensor was the issue, but Windows the poorly written OS that it is allowed one program to crash the entire system and throw it in a boot loop, a big part of the blame falls on Microsoft for allowing it to happen

    • @greatlake_editz
      @greatlake_editz 3 месяца назад

      Can't know until it happens

    • @Krythar
      @Krythar 3 месяца назад

      By that logic its Microsofts fault too if you get a virus from downloading faulty software

  • @ralfszeltins2
    @ralfszeltins2 3 месяца назад +2

    Having CrowdStrike as argument to move away from Windows is bad. The same issue already happened with Linux and CrowdStrike. The problem is the CrowdStrike software. Skip using CrowdStrike until they have fixed their routines to have proper testing.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@ralfszeltins2 you repeated another comment word for word lmao, and yes Linux isn’t perfect, but I’d like to see when it had such an issue on the same scale as the recent outage. Sure it’s not fully Windows’s fault, but it allowed one bug in a single piece of software to crash the whole system and throw it in a boot loop, it is poorly built and some of the blame falls on it as well.

    • @ralfszeltins2
      @ralfszeltins2 3 месяца назад +1

      @@PenguinByte i copied so you would see the comment lol, anyways the reason windows kept crashing was because of the crowdstrikes driver crashing. when a driver crashes, windows throws a bsod to avoid instability. thats why safe mode works just fine, because it doesnt load optional drivers.

    • @PenguinByte
      @PenguinByte  3 месяца назад

      @@ralfszeltins2 I see all the comments, you don’t have to copy it lmao. Fair enough, but it’s concerning that kernel access is still even a thing at all in Windows, macOS and Linux haven’t had it for a while and while neither are perfect, giving kernel access to a program is a huge security risk.