@@gamermanx3096 To be fair outside of that fight LV1 run are actually easier than normal run (hence why speedrunner mainly focus on the Critical LV1 category), due to how No EXP boost your damage and how easy it is to break this game with Once More, Second Chance and Leaf Bracer with 2/3 Cures and Renewing Guard all accessible very early. This fight is the big exception due to the fucking Clones.
@@nesoukkefka1741 EXCUSE ME I LITERALLY JUST BEAT TERRANORT AFTER 3 LITERAL DAYS OF ATTEMPTS I BEAT HIM ON CRIT ON MOBILE IN ONLY 20 MINUTES WITHOUT EXP ZERO
because there is a damage cap on ps4 versions and pc. This boss have been nerfed, Play on the original psp eur version, you can't escape from the whip move, and a lvl1 battle is about 2 hours long, because your damage are so low Nobody did this challenge on youtube.
BBS Developers: Hey! You know how Kingdom hearts is known for its combat system and the variety available therein? Square: Yes? BBS Developers: Let’s make it so all characters are like bosses where they have like 2 abilities that are on cool downs, and give the bosses all the cool fast paced abilities players usually like! Square: That’s an awful idea. BBS Developers: Well screw you, we’re doing it anyway!
And let's also renove revenge values in favor of making staggering completely random! And make 90% of all strategies (including everything that has worked in past games) completely useless!
Frankly, all the game commands need to be more viable is making the character invincible while in command animation, and boosting damages. Of course, it would result in abuse of longest animations but we already do that with the dodges and shootlock instead, so no point in not doing so. Also, you can cheese Vanitas remnants with Whildwind, one of Strongest and flashiest Ventus command
Mysterious Figure Race: Human Other Names: Young Xehanort Class: Keyblade Wielder (Currently), Real Organization XIII Member (Currently) Real Organization XIII No.: XII Element: Time Abilities: Time Manipulation, Ethereal Blade short combo, Ethereal Blade long combo, Dash attack, X attack, Spear orbs, Sonic attack, Whirlwind, Vanish, Raging Storm, Summon copies, Mega Flare, Meteor, Doom, Collision Magnet, Renewal Barrier, Time reversal Weapons: Ethereal Blades, Keyblade (No Name) Home: Scala as Caelum (Formerly), The Destiny Islands (Formerly), The Land of Departure (Formerly), The Keyblade Graveyard (Currently) Location: The Land of Departure (Summit) Allies: Eraqus (Formerly), Luxu (Secretly), Real Organization XIII (Currently) Alignment: Order of the Keyblade Masters (Formerly), Xehanort's Heartless (Currently), Real Organization XIII (Currently) Status: Active
I'm baffled with how much luck is required in this fight. Out of my 30 attempts so far, I've only seen one X-slash move, but he will sometimes use Doom 3-4 times back to back. It's like MF knows what his punishable moves are, so he refuses to use them on me...I'm going insane...
MAAAAAANNNN he just doesnt know mercy its just doom doom doom.. And the funny thing is I seen thay move a total of 1 time while using aqua and ven COMBINED yet when i use terra its lik hes been givin a full description of how bad his dodge is
You wanna make it so he rarely uses Doom and keeps using that significantly easier to dodge cross slash? Unequip Ice Slide and Sonic Impact, if you have them, and make sure there are no more than 4 Cure commands in your deck.
Doom is such a dumb mechanic I genuinely don't understand why they felt the need to implement it how they did. Like okay, yea, the whole fight is a mess, but a move that is near unreactable that can be spammed in succession and eventually just instantly kills you? It really does put the BS in BBS. If they just kept it an unreactable move with a consistently short escape timer at least that'd be somewhat fair. Did they really think this fight wasn't hard enough as is??
that was a weird mechanic how he will use doom, it happened to me too, so i tried that fight again but without any cure boost, my command deck was like the video, but this time he spams more the X attack instead of doom
@@Raver0689They don’t. The tune for the battle is “Dark Impetus”, the tune for Young Xehanort on Dream Drop Distance is “L’Impeto Oscuro” which means the same thing. He holds the key blades in the same stance as Young Xehanort from 3D The use of time travelling is also revealed in 3D before the Young Xehanort boss battle. Those are the things that suggest it is Young Xehanort but people had to wait for 3D to be released as there is nothing in the story up to the point of BBS being completed
I had a bug today on Xbox. Terra lv1 MF had clones out and i almost had him, with luck i was able to block and counter, filling up my rhythm master finisher. I used it, i killed mf but he just vanished. Terra even stopped having the fight stance as if there is nothing but the musoc continued and i couldnt get into the menu neither did the fight end in 1 hour of waiting....
Four of each -- Thank you for the help and showing us the process of getting this battle done because damn is it ridiculous as a whole. Phenomenal job btw
that may have been the luckiest MF terra run ive ever seen. when he kept doing the cross slash that was just the perfect setup. and no clones. fuck the clones.
How does having no items change his AI? 'Cause I know that using D-Links cause him to go invisible like it's Phase 2 already, and that Shotlocks force him to pull up his Healing Shield as well as Lazer Orbs.
@@heavyrain5949 1. Huh. Didn't expect you to respond to this, but at the same time I did. 2. Well did you know that having more than 4 Cure commands and/or having Ice Slide in slots 1 - 4 of your action commands cause him to Doom spam in the first phase?
@@Loner098 Yeah lol MF ai is also based on if you have the elemental dodges. Curious to see if modders and determiners can see why this to occurs now that KH is on PC.
You know I'd like to see you no damage Iron Imprisoner IV, from the final round of the Keepers of the Arena match. That's OK if you don't do challenges.
@@Netherman14TheHellblazer really? MF is unfair at all levels, yozora is also the only real difficulty boss in KH3 Remind, for normal KH3 the only superboss is Dark Inferno, and boi what an easy fight, just block and counter at right moments and you can combo him... now MF? good luck with his stupid AI and RNG, throwing tornados that can steal your commands, going invisible, dividing himself into 4 MFs, you can't even combo this guy with Terra, it's just not fun.
Um? Hah? That's literally YMXs Keyblade you get at the end of the fight. And I'm not even entirely aware MoM is capable of time travel, especially because we've never seen him at the LOD, which would be one of the requirements.
Thats unfair... In my case MF doesnt stop spamming doom atrack (even since the beginning) its really maddening. I've tried to disable ice slide or many others commands but he still using those damn attacks. I think it is taking me at least 80 attemps... This is the last trophy for me
@@photonalchemist6574 still he did good. but i think the fight on level 1 with surges is harder than the fight on a high level without surges... people say his moveset even becomes harder on lvl 1
As Terra? Practically impossible. Moves like Doom, the Projectile Megaflare attack, and his Sonic Blade like attacks are very difficult to react and dodge. All this and I didn't even mention his Laser Orbs. His laser Orbs is literally impossible to avoid unless you use your I-frame skills and Blocks like a God. And even so, you got the second phase where he will most likely do impossible setups like the Laser Orbs into Whirlwind or Doom. Tldr: You need a extremely fuck ton of luck to get a setup where MF doesn't fuck you over. No hit as Aqua and Ven is way more doable.
@@AgentAaron101 Is it possible to use the Zack D-Link Auto Block to block his Lazer Orbs? Actually, nevermind; he'll just go invisible like it's Phase 2 already. Maybe you could back up into a corner to block some of them.
This fight is almost pure shit. It's very inconsistent in when it can actually be hit, it can very easily break your combos and stunlock you with almost no way of knowing ahead of time, and it follows the admittedly cool tradition of Kingdom Hearts giving a little sneak peak of the next game with Young Xehanort for Dream Drop Distance in this case. Because that's what Kingdom Hearts needed: time travel. The only good part is the epic music, which is kind of expected at this point.
Young Xehanort complicated the plot extremely, but at least the time-travel part made sense and was well-written. As for the soundtrack being godly, and the boss fight being shit, I totally agree with you.
I feel like this one was the most embarassing. Lingering Will is great, and the Mirage Arena bosses are pretty fair, all things considered. This one, however, is pure hell.
@@michaelchronicles9780 Console has no bearing on the design of these bosses, that’s a lazy excuse. Riku and Roxas in Re: coded were designed with proper staggering and revenge value on a NINTENDO DS
Not to brag but, I just beat this piece of shit on the original psp english version with Parachute pants over here, after a while I started questioning if a keyblade was worth all of this and part of me was like; *_Y E S_* , and then the other part of me was also like; show that piece of bullshit what's *_G O O D_* , if the boss design in this game was decent, using your cool flashy commands would actually feel satisfying
Actually these are abilities and you get them by fusing proper commands and using crystal items (there are multiple combinations that work, but the one that always comes into my mind first is getting second chance with firega+firega+pulsing crystal)
I despise this boss as Terra. The fact you, the uncontested GOD of Kingdom Hearts, couldn't beat him hitless, shows that his design is rotten to the core.
Gonna be honest here, level 1 Terra Mysterious Figure doesn't seem too much different to level 100 Terra Mysterious Figure.
Level 1 Terra cannot destroy MF clones which makes Level 1 more harder because Once More and Second Chance don't work properly in BBS
@@xaviere420 wait, really? The clones can’t be destroyed at level 1. Fantastic.
Day by day, I have more reasons not to do a level 1 run of this game.
@@gamermanx3096 To be fair outside of that fight LV1 run are actually easier than normal run (hence why speedrunner mainly focus on the Critical LV1 category), due to how No EXP boost your damage and how easy it is to break this game with Once More, Second Chance and Leaf Bracer with 2/3 Cures and Renewing Guard all accessible very early. This fight is the big exception due to the fucking Clones.
@@nesoukkefka1741 EXCUSE ME
I LITERALLY JUST BEAT TERRANORT AFTER 3 LITERAL DAYS OF ATTEMPTS
I BEAT HIM ON CRIT ON MOBILE IN ONLY 20 MINUTES WITHOUT EXP ZERO
because there is a damage cap on ps4 versions and pc. This boss have been nerfed, Play on the original psp eur version, you can't escape from the whip move, and a lvl1 battle is about 2 hours long, because your damage are so low Nobody did this challenge on youtube.
BBS Developers: Hey! You know how Kingdom hearts is known for its combat system and the variety available therein?
Square: Yes?
BBS Developers: Let’s make it so all characters are like bosses where they have like 2 abilities that are on cool downs, and give the bosses all the cool fast paced abilities players usually like!
Square: That’s an awful idea.
BBS Developers: Well screw you, we’re doing it anyway!
Well each one of the wayfinder trio did turn it to be a boss in some way shape or form, Lingering Will, Armored Ventus Nightmare and Phantom Aqua
Lorde Voldemort terranort, xemnas, ansem, anti aqua and ventus vanitas
And that’s just part of why this boss fight sucks.
And let's also renove revenge values in favor of making staggering completely random! And make 90% of all strategies (including everything that has worked in past games) completely useless!
When even WillJV2 can’t beat a boss without luck and a deck full of Curagas, you know you’ve done a poor job designing your boss.
This is how Terra trained to fight Sora 10 years later.
true
But he never use thunder surges when fighting sora😂
@@gradleyg472
He does, actually, it's the dash attack he uses at the very end of his desperation move
only to be outmatched by duck flare 💀
11*
All my grinding for the flashiest commands in this damn game was all for nothing, If I couldn't use them on any of the secret bosses, dammit osaka wth
Good thing this is only for BSS and DDD. KH3 has much better design thankfully.
@@dcuniverse8874 thank god hopefully future games follows that design
@@michaelchronicles9780 if we even get a future game that is.
@@dcuniverse8874 why would they stop making games lol
Frankly, all the game commands need to be more viable is making the character invincible while in command animation, and boosting damages. Of course, it would result in abuse of longest animations but we already do that with the dodges and shootlock instead, so no point in not doing so.
Also, you can cheese Vanitas remnants with Whildwind, one of Strongest and flashiest Ventus command
Mysterious Figure
Race: Human
Other Names: Young Xehanort
Class: Keyblade Wielder (Currently), Real Organization XIII Member (Currently)
Real Organization XIII No.: XII
Element: Time
Abilities: Time Manipulation, Ethereal Blade short combo, Ethereal Blade long combo, Dash attack, X attack, Spear orbs, Sonic attack, Whirlwind, Vanish, Raging Storm, Summon copies, Mega Flare, Meteor, Doom, Collision Magnet, Renewal Barrier, Time reversal
Weapons: Ethereal Blades, Keyblade (No Name)
Home: Scala as Caelum (Formerly), The Destiny Islands (Formerly), The Land of Departure (Formerly), The Keyblade Graveyard (Currently)
Location: The Land of Departure (Summit)
Allies: Eraqus (Formerly), Luxu (Secretly), Real Organization XIII (Currently)
Alignment: Order of the Keyblade Masters (Formerly), Xehanort's Heartless (Currently), Real Organization XIII (Currently)
Status: Active
I still have to play DDD, i think Is necessary, cause i Need to know how young zehanorth got ALL of his powers (no spoiler please)
I'm baffled with how much luck is required in this fight. Out of my 30 attempts so far, I've only seen one X-slash move, but he will sometimes use Doom 3-4 times back to back. It's like MF knows what his punishable moves are, so he refuses to use them on me...I'm going insane...
MAAAAAANNNN he just doesnt know mercy its just doom doom doom.. And the funny thing is I seen thay move a total of 1 time while using aqua and ven COMBINED yet when i use terra its lik hes been givin a full description of how bad his dodge is
From what I heard, he spams Doom if you have more than 4 Cure commands and if you have Ice Slide equipped in slots 1-4 in your Action Commands.
You wanna make it so he rarely uses Doom and keeps using that significantly easier to dodge cross slash? Unequip Ice Slide and Sonic Impact, if you have them, and make sure there are no more than 4 Cure commands in your deck.
Doom is such a dumb mechanic I genuinely don't understand why they felt the need to implement it how they did. Like okay, yea, the whole fight is a mess, but a move that is near unreactable that can be spammed in succession and eventually just instantly kills you? It really does put the BS in BBS. If they just kept it an unreactable move with a consistently short escape timer at least that'd be somewhat fair. Did they really think this fight wasn't hard enough as is??
that was a weird mechanic how he will use doom, it happened to me too, so i tried that fight again but without any cure boost, my command deck was like the video, but this time he spams more the X attack instead of doom
If only Terra could use his lingering will movesets from 2 xD
BBS Devs: *NO*
*MU RA* yes
Only ultima Canon
@@nekogamer2508 And Thunder Surge (last move of his DM in KH2FM).
I wish we could
We probably can give terra his kh2 move set when kh comes to pc March 30th this year
He might be the worst boss in the series but he’s my favorite character in the series.
Your favorite character is the masters ofMaster!?
@@DnVFMVs it's twink xehanort not MoM
Worst boss? Maybe, but at least he doesn't have an clock based doom counter, and element immunity like "He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named" from KH1!
How do you know for certain story line wise?
@@Raver0689They don’t.
The tune for the battle is “Dark Impetus”, the tune for Young Xehanort on Dream Drop Distance is “L’Impeto Oscuro” which means the same thing.
He holds the key blades in the same stance as Young Xehanort from 3D
The use of time travelling is also revealed in 3D before the Young Xehanort boss battle.
Those are the things that suggest it is Young Xehanort but people had to wait for 3D to be released as there is nothing in the story up to the point of BBS being completed
I had a bug today on Xbox. Terra lv1 MF had clones out and i almost had him, with luck i was able to block and counter, filling up my rhythm master finisher. I used it, i killed mf but he just vanished. Terra even stopped having the fight stance as if there is nothing but the musoc continued and i couldnt get into the menu neither did the fight end in 1 hour of waiting....
I would of set my console on fire
*Mysterious Figure has left the game.*
Guess he ragequit. Wouldn't put it past him.
I’ve only seen raw strength like this once before
Did it scare you, then?
Honestly this fight wouldn't have been that bad if it wasn't for fase 2
How much more pain do you wanna endure?
Terra- yes
Four of each -- Thank you for the help and showing us the process of getting this battle done because damn is it ridiculous as a whole. Phenomenal job btw
i could feel the terror all the way
that may have been the luckiest MF terra run ive ever seen. when he kept doing the cross slash that was just the perfect setup. and no clones. fuck the clones.
If there were a KH fighting game you would kick ass holy moly
What's funny about your "restrictions", is that it messes with MF's ai. Making it harder lol
How does having no items change his AI? 'Cause I know that using D-Links cause him to go invisible like it's Phase 2 already, and that Shotlocks force him to pull up his Healing Shield as well as Lazer Orbs.
@@Loner098
Idk, It was just a badly designed boss on all fronts. There hasn't been an answer as to why lol it just is xD
@@heavyrain5949 1. Huh. Didn't expect you to respond to this, but at the same time I did.
2. Well did you know that having more than 4 Cure commands and/or having Ice Slide in slots 1 - 4 of your action commands cause him to Doom spam in the first phase?
@@Loner098
Yeah lol MF ai is also based on if you have the elemental dodges. Curious to see if modders and determiners can see why this to occurs now that KH is on PC.
@@heavyrain5949 ...So, some bosses have reworked on PC?
*THUNDER SURGE INTENSIFIES*
No man should have to go through this.
You know I'd like to see you no damage Iron Imprisoner IV, from the final round of the Keepers of the Arena match.
That's OK if you don't do challenges.
now that KH3 is out I wonder if MF still has the title of hardest/worst boss in the KH series, or if someone new has taken that ignoble crown
he's still the worst by far. KH3 superbosses are actually well designed, for the most part.
@@demondays3956 that's a good thing at least, nice that they didn't add something that topped MF's bullsh**
@@MarkofWisdom i honestly think they'd realy have to try if they wanted to top his bullshit.
Mysterious Fucker's not hard, he's just cheap. KHIII superbosses are actually well-designed.
@@Netherman14TheHellblazer really? MF is unfair at all levels, yozora is also the only real difficulty boss in KH3 Remind, for normal KH3 the only superboss is Dark Inferno, and boi what an easy fight, just block and counter at right moments and you can combo him... now MF? good luck with his stupid AI and RNG, throwing tornados that can steal your commands, going invisible, dividing himself into 4 MFs, you can't even combo this guy with Terra, it's just not fun.
People think this is young xehanort, I’m starting to think this guy....is the master of masters
Um? Hah? That's literally YMXs Keyblade you get at the end of the fight. And I'm not even entirely aware MoM is capable of time travel, especially because we've never seen him at the LOD, which would be one of the requirements.
the music alone confirms it's Young Xehanort... MoM doesn't even have his own theme i think
Xemmas swords reds its young xehanort but its posible luxu
@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 MoM has a theme, just not this one. This is clearly YX you fight hear.
@@juaneugeniosanchez2448 It is not Luxu. If you play DDD you literally fight Mysterious Figure and it’s confirmed to be Young Xehanort
Surge is like limit form, both of which I used to obliterate the bosses in both kh2fm and here while on critical mode lmao
Thats unfair... In my case MF doesnt stop spamming doom atrack (even since the beginning) its really maddening. I've tried to disable ice slide or many others commands but he still using those damn attacks. I think it is taking me at least 80 attemps... This is the last trophy for me
if you have more than 4 cures he spams doom
Imagine this fight with kh2's combat system
This would be perfect
Jump cancelled Reflega in Final Form would shred
And in this version, the laser whip can be evaded. In PSP western edition, it was impossible. I still wonder how I was able to defeat this atrocity.
How do you synthesize thunder surge
Thundara + fire dash, freeze raid, stun edge, or confusion strike. Way too easy for such a broken command
I really hate the damn Doom attack... I can never predict that one...
The tornado move breaks this fight.
Terra can't use Goofy.
@@Jyrow no, i mean MF's that takes away your commands
Two words kid:
_sword bill_
This event happens after the destruction of the Land of Departure
Thunder Surge is the Savior
When you see even the most skilled KH players use Thunder Surge you know this boss is bs
how did u press so fast on Doom ?
... I think he was spamming on instinct
Now do it without surges.
Or not if you like you sanity.
It actually can be done. Check out Jaded and boom
@@muckideen-swarray7487 Stickman sham did it without surges, but not on level one.
@@photonalchemist6574 still he did good. but i think the fight on level 1 with surges is harder than the fight on a high level without surges... people say his moveset even becomes harder on lvl 1
Is it even possible to win this fight without taking damage?
As Terra? Practically impossible. Moves like Doom, the Projectile Megaflare attack, and his Sonic Blade like attacks are very difficult to react and dodge. All this and I didn't even mention his Laser Orbs. His laser Orbs is literally impossible to avoid unless you use your I-frame skills and Blocks like a God. And even so, you got the second phase where he will most likely do impossible setups like the Laser Orbs into Whirlwind or Doom.
Tldr: You need a extremely fuck ton of luck to get a setup where MF doesn't fuck you over. No hit as Aqua and Ven is way more doable.
@@AgentAaron101 Is it possible to use the Zack D-Link Auto Block to block his Lazer Orbs? Actually, nevermind; he'll just go invisible like it's Phase 2 already. Maybe you could back up into a corner to block some of them.
No damaging maybe hard, but it's possible.
Unless you're playing as Terra on Critical with Exp Zero on.
It's literally impossible as Terra unless you *manage* to do sword bill+0xp
I have a suggestion... Beat Mysterious Figure on level 1 critical... With basic attacks. As Terra. And no commands... 😁
Master of masters?
Nope, it was Young Xehanort.
This is cap i did the exact same thing with mine can’t beat him what are your stats
This fight is almost pure shit. It's very inconsistent in when it can actually be hit, it can very easily break your combos and stunlock you with almost no way of knowing ahead of time, and it follows the admittedly cool tradition of Kingdom Hearts giving a little sneak peak of the next game with Young Xehanort for Dream Drop Distance in this case. Because that's what Kingdom Hearts needed: time travel. The only good part is the epic music, which is kind of expected at this point.
Young Xehanort complicated the plot extremely, but at least the time-travel part made sense and was well-written.
As for the soundtrack being godly, and the boss fight being shit, I totally agree with you.
This boss, all the mirage arena bosses and lingering will are broken.
Not even willjv2 can beat with no damage
I feel like this one was the most embarassing.
Lingering Will is great, and the Mirage Arena bosses are pretty fair, all things considered.
This one, however, is pure hell.
Without thunder Surge is this boss impossible?
Close to it.
Why not a no damage run, Will? You always beat bosses without taking dmg
Mysterious Figure's abysmal boss design actually makes this impossible.
Yes, even for Will.
now do it with earthshaker
This boss is a prime of a horrible boss fight. Imagine playing this garbage after KH2's amazing super bosses.
Imagine
Maybe it's bacause this game was made in the psp
@@michaelchronicles9780 Console has no bearing on the design of these bosses, that’s a lazy excuse. Riku and Roxas in Re: coded were designed with proper staggering and revenge value on a NINTENDO DS
Not to brag but, I just beat this piece of shit on the original psp english version with Parachute pants over here, after a while I started questioning if a keyblade was worth all of this and part of me was like; *_Y E S_* , and then the other part of me was also like; show that piece of bullshit what's *_G O O D_* , if the boss design in this game was decent, using your cool flashy commands would actually feel satisfying
I wouldn't say it's worth it cause you can get royal radiance and no heart is way easier than mf
Heal!
Vivianne Lake
How come you dont die when he hits you and you have no life left?
His combo attack I immediately puts you on 1 health. Even if the attack is ongoing you stay at 1 health. But if he hits you again your dead!
Theres also an item in brith by sleep called once more and second chance, moves that are supposed to one shot you don't
Actually these are abilities and you get them by fusing proper commands and using crystal items (there are multiple combinations that work, but the one that always comes into my mind first is getting second chance with firega+firega+pulsing crystal)
how you mfs play Kingdom Hearts without second chance, once more and leaf bracer is beyond me
I despise this boss as Terra. The fact you, the uncontested GOD of Kingdom Hearts, couldn't beat him hitless, shows that his design is rotten to the core.
The only good thing about this entire shitshow is the soundtrack, I think we can all agree that _Dark Impetus_ is a godly track.
The rest is HIDEOUS.
I love bbs, but his secret bosses are so fucking crappy...
So ontop of every fucking hit he does sending you to 1 hp he can scatter your commands auto and auto kill you and lock you in a combo…,