Haha I know, I’ve been lagging big time. I’m hoping to get back to a weekly (maybe every other week :)) upload schedule. Thanks for waiting and watching!
Awesome, I’ve been doing exactly the same and framing without glass, I do one heavy coat then 2 light ones, the clients absolutely love the look. It keeps my profit margin up! I must say I really like the look of optica one, I use it for snowy photos, but I hate the paper, I find it ugly and it creases so easily! There elagance velvet paper is a beauty tho. I do the bulk of my panos with Ilford smooth cotton paper for the same consistency. Just gives great results every time and is predictable. It was great to see someone doing things the same way, especially someone with your experience 😊
I haven’t had issues with creasing but I usually go right from the printer to the laminator for mounting. I haven’t used ilford smooth cotton in a while, I might need to give it another look. I haven’t tried the elegance velvet yet. What I like about optica is the level of detail. I often find rag papers to lose a lot of that fine detail. Also, I was just checking out your website. Fantastic work! “Breakthrough” is absolutely incredible! I’m a sucker for panos. Really good stuff.
Oh yea, you can varnish over varnish successfully ( I typically roll 3-4 thin coats). When starting out, I saw many ugly dust blobs after varnishing. I found I could use steel wool to flatten/remove them, then re-varnished and the blobs became almost invisible. Not something I'd want to do for many prints, but it can work.
I should have mentioned that. I mostly meant for spraying it’s best to stick with one because the print is vertical. But yes with rolling I imagine you could easily get away with more coats. The steel wool would stress me out haha! I’ll have to try that. Great idea.
@@MrNegative Yep. I also place the print vertically, even for rolling. You'd think I'd get lots of drips, but if you use thin coats and roll, roll, roll until it becomes just tacky (you can hear this happen), the drips never happen.
Great review! thorough, practical and candid. I’m planning on replicating your process but am concerned about the varnish fumes when spraying. Would you say a spray booth with appropriate ventilation is necessary, or have you run into any issues in this regard. Thanks!
I’m glad it was helpful. I recommend the respirator to protect you but the purpose of the booth is to minimize dust and keep overspray contained. My spray room is actually in my office so I want to protect the prints but also protect the rest of my space. If you have a space that is relatively free of dust and has good ventilation, you don’t need a booth but I 100% would recommend the proper PPE to protect yourself. You can always make a new print, you can’t get new eyes and lungs.
Im wondering if you dilute Timeless before spraying? I’ve been using Glamour II and have said semi-successful results with it. Recently I just couldn’t get it to come out right no matter what I did. I put a call in to BC and they recommended I switch to Timeless. After doing so, and in my initial test spray, Timeless just didn’t want to come out of the gun and did so in an extremely fine mist - so fine that you couldn’t really see it when spraying or on the canvas. I ended up diluting it a bit with water and it was much better. Just curious if you’re able to spray without diluting, as all the other information I can find seems to be most people can spray it successfully without diluting. Sorry for the long winded comment, but I’m at my wits end trying to get consistent and reliable results varnishing prints.
I haven’t needed to dilute but the timeless instructions do say if you’re having inconsistent spray it may be necessary to dilute up to 10% with distilled water. Just confirming you’re using a psi between 30-40? When I’ve had spray pattern issues it’s usually a matter of adjusting the pressure in my gun and of course making sure there are no clogs.
Thanks for the fast reply! Your videos are the only ones I can find outside of BC’s basic spray guideline videos, so I appreciate the time you take to make them. I have the air regulated at 30psi working pressure. I can try to bump that up closer to 40 and see if that helps. The gun is cleaned after every use and has only ever been used for this varnish, so there shouldn’t be a clogging issue. Worst come to worse I can always just dilute it a bit, but that kind defeats the purpose of Timeless being able to be used right out of the jug. I’ll make some more adjustments and see how it goes. Thanks for the help!
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Glad your back, great results on your prints. Waiting for the next videos ...
Haha I know, I’ve been lagging big time. I’m hoping to get back to a weekly (maybe every other week :)) upload schedule. Thanks for waiting and watching!
Awesome, I’ve been doing exactly the same and framing without glass, I do one heavy coat then 2 light ones, the clients absolutely love the look. It keeps my profit margin up! I must say I really like the look of optica one, I use it for snowy photos, but I hate the paper, I find it ugly and it creases so easily! There elagance velvet paper is a beauty tho. I do the bulk of my panos with Ilford smooth cotton paper for the same consistency. Just gives great results every time and is predictable. It was great to see someone doing things the same way, especially someone with your experience 😊
I haven’t had issues with creasing but I usually go right from the printer to the laminator for mounting. I haven’t used ilford smooth cotton in a while, I might need to give it another look. I haven’t tried the elegance velvet yet. What I like about optica is the level of detail. I often find rag papers to lose a lot of that fine detail. Also, I was just checking out your website. Fantastic work! “Breakthrough” is absolutely incredible! I’m a sucker for panos. Really good stuff.
Oh yea, you can varnish over varnish successfully ( I typically roll 3-4 thin coats). When starting out, I saw many ugly dust blobs after varnishing. I found I could use steel wool to flatten/remove them, then re-varnished and the blobs became almost invisible. Not something I'd want to do for many prints, but it can work.
I should have mentioned that. I mostly meant for spraying it’s best to stick with one because the print is vertical. But yes with rolling I imagine you could easily get away with more coats. The steel wool would stress me out haha! I’ll have to try that. Great idea.
@@MrNegative Yep. I also place the print vertically, even for rolling. You'd think I'd get lots of drips, but if you use thin coats and roll, roll, roll until it becomes just tacky (you can hear this happen), the drips never happen.
Great review! thorough, practical and candid. I’m planning on replicating your process but am concerned about the varnish fumes when spraying. Would you say a spray booth with appropriate ventilation is necessary, or have you run into any issues in this regard. Thanks!
I’m glad it was helpful. I recommend the respirator to protect you but the purpose of the booth is to minimize dust and keep overspray contained. My spray room is actually in my office so I want to protect the prints but also protect the rest of my space. If you have a space that is relatively free of dust and has good ventilation, you don’t need a booth but I 100% would recommend the proper PPE to protect yourself. You can always make a new print, you can’t get new eyes and lungs.
Im wondering if you dilute Timeless before spraying? I’ve been using Glamour II and have said semi-successful results with it. Recently I just couldn’t get it to come out right no matter what I did. I put a call in to BC and they recommended I switch to Timeless. After doing so, and in my initial test spray, Timeless just didn’t want to come out of the gun and did so in an extremely fine mist - so fine that you couldn’t really see it when spraying or on the canvas. I ended up diluting it a bit with water and it was much better. Just curious if you’re able to spray without diluting, as all the other information I can find seems to be most people can spray it successfully without diluting. Sorry for the long winded comment, but I’m at my wits end trying to get consistent and reliable results varnishing prints.
I haven’t needed to dilute but the timeless instructions do say if you’re having inconsistent spray it may be necessary to dilute up to 10% with distilled water. Just confirming you’re using a psi between 30-40? When I’ve had spray pattern issues it’s usually a matter of adjusting the pressure in my gun and of course making sure there are no clogs.
Thanks for the fast reply! Your videos are the only ones I can find outside of BC’s basic spray guideline videos, so I appreciate the time you take to make them. I have the air regulated at 30psi working pressure. I can try to bump that up closer to 40 and see if that helps. The gun is cleaned after every use and has only ever been used for this varnish, so there shouldn’t be a clogging issue. Worst come to worse I can always just dilute it a bit, but that kind defeats the purpose of Timeless being able to be used right out of the jug. I’ll make some more adjustments and see how it goes. Thanks for the help!
@chasinmorgan it’s definitely a finicky process but I haven’t found any other way to finish prints that I like as much. Let me know how it goes.
Never used on paper great on canvas
You should try it on paper!