The Biggest EDC Knives | Knife Banter Ep. 5
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- This week on Knife Banter the guys talk about the biggest EDC knives at Blade HQ. Check them out here: www.bladehq.com...
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Your knife has recoil
It actually has...I tried to open the voyager xl clip half heartedly with one hand and it closed back clipping a gash on my fingers
"This particular Espada is special because Lynn Thompson killed a man with it."
K G you don’t mess with Mr. Thompson’s pudding, money, or woman...in that order 🤨
@@crktritual lol!!!!!!
Is that true, if so link? Few people like him left....
@@andrewyork3869 No I was just making a joke.
@Hobo Battleship Do you have any more info on the story?
for the Espada--self defense has to be a big part of the reason for carry--same logic for the Rajah 2 which I do carry sometimes
David Carson: one of the only for me! You can’t even think about walking around Detroit without being strapped with one of these puppies! Or should I say mastiff’s! 🐕 😂 !!
Manslaughter more like
Actually rajah 2 can alongside the espada xl be used as a massive workhorse knife
I EDCed a cold steel Spartan in Afghanistan. It's my favorite big knife. It's just as thick as the folding kukri with a similar shape but more manageable size.
Where can I buy one ?? Would appreciate it
I'm a disabled vet and for protection I carry a walther P99 and a blade, I would be proud to carry the Cold Steel Espada. Thank You and I love watching your videos, keep it up guys.
Oorah! 😏👍
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I carry the Cold Steel Voyager XL Tanto. Every day and I love it. I've had it for years and it's still my go to EDC. I carry other blades with me, but my primary is the Voyager
My vote is for the cold steel 6" Ti-lite. 13" overall length. Similar to a italian stilletto but is not automatic. Sweet self defense blade, not much else.
I own that as well, super fun conversation piece
Yes just got one beautiful knife !
Yeah I was wondering why this didn't make it!
Self defense against your foe's cars. Tire "slashing" really is more cumbersome than one would imagine. I don't know anyone who could do the deed with a "EDC." such a slashinng motion requires a mini machete blade. Anyone could slash 4 tires as fast as a person takes to buy a pack of cigarettes and a soda by ramrodding such rubber.
If your attacker is pursuing you and tried to weaponize a vehicle, or say a boat even, you beating him to the docking bay to mount your jetski opens up a dangerous chase, a dangerous game ensues. Hopping on ur 2 wheeler right after cutting someone's line to an anchor/popping their thick semi-truck wheels to deflate after but one piercing is just good self defense. You won't have to pop him, affectively circumventing harm (for her/his sake and your own) and the legal and moral consequences that come it inherently.
I once saw a kid at this sidewalk sale get dangerously handed a balloon by his taller older brother (of grand girth.) If I hadn't popped that rougue parade balloon that ascended him a good few solid feet in they air, his neglectful parents wouldnn't have evenn noticed until too late. Used my ti-lite. His Karen mother who had a hotdog stand and one in each hand yelled at me, manhandling her kid who was previously untouched (presumably, this was a fare in southern country and he had many an uncle with beer belly displayed, Budweiser brandished as a shuriken weapon as they began to pelt me after the mother, by the throat, pulled him away while I was still staring at the massive balloonn in the sky... it got shot down. Hillybilly armement engaged. I saw a 21 gun salute ensue, pistols in the air like gangsters squeezing off Hail Mary Shots. Was not till this black guy actually took it downn with a shotgun, took em one shot too.
He hurt their egos, I'll tell you that. Manny a daisy ducked out minors watched the 22 shot show. They yelled at him, the nerve. "Boy, what you doin', I had that." "These two are queer folk, ain't from around here." "Go on, get."
We both were confused af but walking away we put together that we both were wearing the same red caps and retrospectively talking real close as we both were chatting after the hot dog contest. I came in first, obviously. Was the prior contest where watermelon juice speckled my make a wish foundation shirt and soiled my hat as it fell off my head. Between our Make America Great hats, I suppose we really both did look at of place, this was a very progressive piece of Texas. Anyway, they were just sore we beat them. I got 2nnd in the watermelon contest. Didn't even come close to winning, the guy that did was a clown there/also this dudes brother I come to find out. Actually hung out with em, when he wiped the nose and paint off I was shocked to see his skin so freckled and irish as mine. I took off my eyeliner since we were entering a bar, I'd have kept it on but I'm super single and really forcing myself to get back out their, need to send out the right signs. Anyway, the choke on my beer part was when the other guy wiped the black paint off his face.
I stood up appalled, I got up out of there. His skin was completely different. It was like when the terminator gets half his face blown up and you see one side revealing the metallic shine of the metal jaw and circuitry.
I EDC that in the Kris blade version. I flick it open pretty well.
I am 46 yrs old disabled an tired of be bullying thanks for your help
"knowing what you have in you pocket is a 17-inch monster"
Hmmmmmm
Super gay
I really like both the Rajah 2 and the Espada XL!! I own both and carry one or the other regularly with no problem. I like the way it makes me feel due to having a very adequate defensive tool on my person to potentially keep me and my family safe.
what about that huge opinel
Everybody carry one of those in France.
@@C4H10N4O2 For dueling
@@bruceleroy8063 That would be amazing 😂
We actually use them to cut the biggests wheels of cheese.
Not very edc friendly, even compared to these. The rounded handle makes it hard to fit in a pocket.
*Contest closed* We are giving away the Cold Steel Espada XL featured in this video! To enter: Comment which large EDC knife is your favorite/which one you would carry. Giveaway is US only, must be 18 or older to win, and the 7.5 inch knife must be legal in your area. Contest ends Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 10 am MST and winner will be announced on the next Episode of Knife Banter. Best of luck to everyone!
Blade HQ my favorite is probably the halo 5 for sure
I would carry the Espada because Cold Steel makes a great product ,and it would scare the hell out of not-so-nice secretary lady the works the front desk at my office, and it would look great on my mantle as a conversation starter.
Espada xl
Blade HQ Why no UK entries boys? I'd pay posting if by a miracle i won!😫😤😢😭🙅
Blade HQ I would have to say the halo 5 I've always wanted one
I used to own the Espada Xl, I did carry it for about a year. On my hip under my belt. It still waved open fine. It was also completely concealed and much more comfortable. I gave to my brother in law, he carries it in carhart pants in the side leg pocket he loves it been carrying it about a year now as well. It’s a hell of a knife it can’t be argued other wise.
Cold steel voyager xl in tanto. Used it for quick heavy use in a pinch. Cutting seatbelts, airbags, whittling notches in saplings to recover hard to reach items, light entry tool. Never used it in anger, but when I whip it out. It immediately engages pucker factor to anyone in the vicinity. Not many knives can do that for you.
You guys are hilarious. That Espada would be fun to own, but I'd never carry it. I would totally carry the Halo, though.
Same! But I live in SoCal. So, bummer
Still legal in SoCal.
Jesse Revis yup, you can carry any folder concealed regardless of length
The Late Boy Scout if
I carry the XL Espada all the time. Feels great to have that much sharp steel in my pocket.
The more material the higher the price?
Tell that to benchmade please.
Who's benchmark? do you mean Benchmade?
@@B0x_T00l Well damn, all this time and I didn't catch that. Thank you kindly.
No problem
And yea they really do need to tell that to benchmade
The Espada - Because Freedom
The Cold Steel Espada: the best way to (silently) say...back the f*ck off, or else. ;-)
I’ve been EDCing a Rajah II for a little over a year, very manageable for my big hands and it does any job I ask of it. Love the thing to bits
For me: Cold Steel Rajah II. Perfect to end up any fighting knife before even start it. That's why I will carry it.
I like the cold steel ti lite that's a beauty
i have 3 espada xls, and i edc one pretty much daily
I personally carry the Large model Espada every day for protection, and it's actually very carryable! It's a little longer than a full size Ka-Bar when open, and I forget I even have it on me.
My two main edcs have been my XL espada and CRKT Jumbones. Love both of them. For me it's nice knowing I'll have a significant reach with my larger knives if the need ever came up. Mostly use them for every day use but my espada is definitely my work horse.
May as well carry a full-tanged fixed blade in a sheath at that point. The hinges and mechanisms would have to hold up to all of that obscene weight and force for any heavy application of a knife that size... and you won't fumble as much deploying a fixed blade, so not only would a large full-tang knife be more durable, it would also be more tactically practical in a self-defense scenario.
Also the blade to handle ratio suffers in a large folder because the handle has to cover the cutting edge.
when a blade gets that big it's defeating the point of it been a folding knife you might as well carry a fixed blade on your belt.
Yeah, but you can’t really play with a fixed knife as much as you can with a folder or otf. I think that’s the only excuse anyone could make for having one of these knifes
Carry of fixed blades is frequently more restricted than carry of folders.
@@axessdenyd Yep. I work in a hotel. They don't care what's in our pockets. We are not allowed to carry a knife on our belt.
I would carry the espada because it's so wicked and the size of a machete!!!👍😎 those were cool
I'd carry the espada XL 100%
Just ordered one! Can't legally EDC it in the UK, but I want one so badly........
I carry the large version with the 5.5 in blade. Razor sharp and super tough.
I have carried an Espada xl as an E.D.C. not a problem,now it's the Rajah 2 and the Talwar as well,all not a problem.
@@logansimpson2460 same here I carry the large espada in g10. The 7.5-in blade appears to be just a little bit too big for me.
I carry a cold steel ti-lite 6 it's my primary tac folder and I carry it everyday with it's 6 inch blade, 7 inch handle its by far my favorite knife to carry
i edc the raja 2, and i love it! i want to edc the espada xl polished version.
The Espada from cold steele is legit asf! I would choose Cold Steel over anything else tho...
"Theres something so satisfying about knowing what you have in your pocket this what did I say almost 17 inch monster" I want to die
George and Sheep seems gay
I CARRY THE COLD STEEL TALWAR XL FULLY SERRATED. AND I LOVE IT
Me too
What is the advantage to fully serrated? I carry a full sized ka bar, and a short that is half serrated. But I’m not totally sure the advantage of totally serrated
Logic true. Have a great day
I carry a CRKT M21-14SFG, just under 10 inches overall. I have large hands, and it fits and feels great. Can’t stand when my little finger is falling of the end of smaller knife handles. G10 grips great and those serrations cut through everything smoothly. Love it.
When it comes to work I prefer to carry a large folder knife. For many reasons a large knife has come in handy. When you are working everybody already assumes you have a knife. So when you pull out a big knife they are impressed more than scared. Another reason I carry a big knife is for big jobs. I do a lot of farm work and landscaping, lawn maintenance. I may need to cut some small branches or dig a little bit. I do chopping, cutting, piercing, drilling, digging, carving and even some fine work. I have cut rope, mulch bags, vines, roots, tires, paper, cardboard, wood, plastic, etc. I also like that you can always feel the knife in your pocket when your working. Its good to know where it is when you need it and its easy to not lose it. The only downside to it is the fact that you have to sharpen it often. But I'm a knife lover so I take care of my knives.
I carry a big knife because 1. it's fun as shit! 2. more reach for defensive purposes. 3. cooking. 4. any hacking or chopping I may have to do. 5. It'll likely scare off anyone you don't want messing with you 6. Also box opening or any smaller chores I may have.
Alexander Peters You have small balls
Ian White congratulations
Alexander Peters thx
Ian White no problem douchebag, must be nice not being judged by what size knife you carry
Alexander Peters I'm 9.
the halo is super cool! ive never touched one because im in california, but the espada is legal here (:
"something so satisfying about knowing what you have in your pocket, a 17 inch monster"
I don't want to sound like a kid but that's what she said
I love big knives, I carry a Rajah 2 as my daily EDC. Twice I actually had to deploy my Rajah to seriously fend off hostile intentions.
I used to carry the Cold Steel Espada XL the stainless polished version. It was an awesome knife to carry and I miss the Espada.
"Hehehe... that's not a knife... now, that's a knife"
Love the cold steel knife. No problem for a Texan.
Thats cuz everything is big in Texas even the ants are the size of small ohio rodents lol love your state very nice heat is a little much sometimes i remember the pool at my resort never was below 75 degrees even at 1am hit 110 while i was there 21 years ago lol
Just carry fixed blade if you want something that big
I have carried a Cold Steel Spartan for about a year. Smaller than everything on the table but still pretty huge. I believe it has a 4.5 inch blade.
I've been carrying somewhat large knives for years now. My current edc is cold steel's large espada. It's not too big, and fits great in my pocket! I can't go back to carrying a blade anything less than 4" it just doesn't feel right anymore lol
What? No love for the 6" blade Ti Lite?
The Espada I would carry every single day! Never know when a bear, ninja, lion, or Godzilla may show up to mug me.
ye like thats gonna help you against a bear .P
@@DonPaluso it wont help against anything he mentioned there, lol 😂
Really enjoying the vids!
I would gladly take any of them but the halo is sleek and sexy
I carry the ti lite 6 by cold steel. It has a deep pocket clip and fits well in the pocket. 6” blade and 7” handle. It’s awesome.
My vote is the Medford Gigantes! I edc'd a blue one with vulcan-finished D2 blade and laser-engraved celtic knotwork on the display scale. It's pretty small by Espada standards but it's hard to beat the flipping action of the Gigante: it wasn't my first Medford and for good reasons! Greg's D2 holds up so well; it's just the right steel treated with care and nicely ground. The blade shape is functional drop point with the flair of a small harpoon swedge. There is so much leverage at the tall flipper tab that the blade rockets out of the detent and just slams into place! And rock solid build is Greg Medford's middle name-I swear!!! Cheers to all you fellow crazy big knife guys: whether it's just big hands ir big egos, it's all good!
make more cheap knife videos!! like 50 and under, or $20 and under please!!!!!
Chris you stole my name!
Kershaw Link for 40 dollars you can't go wrong.
Lol why? Just put out the hundred plus on a quality knife, chances are you won't regret it.
They have videos for 40 dollar knives like the boker Kalashnikov. If you want quality you're going to have to pay for it.
Jordan Mayer I’m with homeboy post videos of cheaper knives some people are looking for a nice work knife and don’t wanna spend $100 plus just to go actually use it to cut shit
Why would have a guy who admittedly doesn’t like large knives host this one!?
I edc the ti lite 6".. for what you ask..??
clean under my fingernails
The Cold Steel TI-LITE 6" is my go-to EDC knife. It is surprisingly carry-able for it's size, and doesn't poke out as much as some of the knives in this video. No one ever comes up to me and asks about it doesn't look out of place in the pocket. The blade is pretty thick for the style of knife that it is, so it can take some abuse. Plus, it has a version that comes in XHP steel, which is a pretty awesome material.
I carry the Cold Steel Hold Out 1 for self defense. I like the neutral handle, which allows for several different grips, and the blade length. I like 5" blades best and prefer 4" or longer for self defense. Clearly, you can defend yourself even with a 2" blade, but the longer the blade, the more options you have and different specific lengths can make specific techniques available. I would choose the Gigantes because of the 5" blade and the overall length and neutral handle. The Hold Out 1 is on the cusp of being practical for EDC for self defense partially due to the way they designed the handle. Keep up the entertaining videos!
Manix 2 XL is about as big as i ever carry.
the original Manix is the same size
thwolf762 he's just saying that's the biggest knife he carries he never said he carries a huge knife.
I understood what he said
I would carry the espada i love cold steel they have proven to be unbeatable in my mind also the old Dundee joke that's not a knife that's a knife fingers crossed I win
What makes America great is the we can do what we want live our life how we want and have personal preferences to what kind of blade style or makers you sir have a great day
Why carry a big knife?
I N T I M I D A T I O N .
The art of fighting ...without fighting.
Scare the shit out of your attacker, and he runs away.
You don't get robbed (or worse).
He doesn't get sliced up.
Win. Win.
I carry the Rajah II for a number of reasons. First, it's just a cool knife. Second, I do a lot of metal detecting that carries me into dense parts of timbers and whatnot. It's nice to have a knife handy that can handle the brush. Third, when I can't carry a firearm into a situation, it's good to have a large knife that can handle cutting through clothes and possibly limbs, if necessary. Protection is primary.
I carry larger knives because I’m a larger person. I’m 6’5” 230lbs so a larger knife just feels more comfortable in the hand. Also relative to me larger knives don’t look that large until someone asks to use it. I own a ZT0920, a Military, and a couple of full sized griptillians. I just picked up a presidio 2 and love it.
only the Halo V for me 😉
4ud10ph1le Bah, no point in having an otf unless it's dual action
I have a 7 inch monster in my pants hehehehe
Wow that’s small
@@corvoerin3766 That's actually 2 inches above average, and he didn't specify if that's the length when it's deployed or undeployed.
Nicholas Reiger fair enough
stiletto !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Idk if you guys carry it, but my personal favorite large EDC knife is the U.L.U. I carry it because it is a strong and durable knife for everything from vegetable chopping to fire making. In my experience, it has a strong edge hold. Plus who doesn't love two locked positions?
Hi guys, I bought the Spartan from you guys and absolutely loved it it's so cool, I really love to now get the Espada, Cold Steel have really good strong well built folding knives, I got my Spartan about a week ago it's such a good knife, I can't stop playing with it so cool, thank you
0:31 I would pull that out when the local crackhead tries to rob me for money.
That realy big opinel
I carry a espada
I have and sometimes carry the raja 2. Usually I carry a 51/2 inch cold steel folder.
I would carry the Espada XL. currently have a ti lite 6 and love it
You see, i'm for the most part broke, so i carry what i can afford, and make the best out of that. So i carry a big ole bootleg ak47 folding bayonet knife. 5 inch blade. Horrendous fit an finish. Piece of shit for the most part. But i love it. Take a wild guess where it ordered it from...?
Budk lol. Of course.
I carry an srk sk5 from cold steel, mainly because its a fixed blade, and secondly because some of the punks in my area also have knifes, but they're like 2-3 inches long, so when you pull out a 10 inch war knife, they usually get intimidated and run off. Its also a great woods knife as I can use it to hunt or chop branches and split wood for a fire.
I carry a paragon estiletto everyday, it’s lighter and more compact than a fixed blade and having the “devils tongue” blade style and the whole knife blacked out is pretty sick.
I've always carried a knife even when I was young small utility type knives. When I got older and had a kidney transplant I became much weaker. My body went through 20 operations which weakened me quite a bit. And so now I believe in carrying a much more intimidating and larger blade to make up for the fact that my body is more susceptible to damage..
Discontinued...... However still my "BIG" favorite, Cuda Max, D Ralph design USA made, D2 5.5 blade, titanium handles, deep carry flipper, liner lock, fast, false edge bowie blade, sharp, and light! When I feel I need a large EDC folder this my go to blade, very discrete i pocket....... not so when deployed!
Definitely agree on the points of the Cuda Max. It is big but flat and carries deep and you don't even know your wearing it. Also discontinued that I love is the REKAT Sifu, but heavier the handle is amazing. Newest large EDC I am liking is the Cold Steel Frenzy, it falls into light weight category so its not noticable like some of the others (Rajah, Spyderco Tantanka, Sog Pantagon Elite)
I've edc'd xl Espada every day for over a year. Quite comfy.
My Espada XL is 17-1/4 inches and it is effing amazing! I am definitely compensating for my tiny , thin ,miniscule little .......Benchmade Bugout, but oh well, come at me bro..
Living in the UK, we can own most knives other than auto or assists, but we can only carry a sub 3” slipjoint! That being said, I’d love that Italian auto stiletto, but my real favourite would be a huge ADV Butcher. Im 52, but as a youth, back in pre-nanny-state days, I carried an 8” Bowie fixed blade other than at school. It was razor sharp (sharpened by a carpenter friend of mine).
The largest I carry is a Brous VR-71 and I absolutely love it, something about carrying a large knife makes me happy inside. I'll also give honorable mention to the Spyderco Endura 4 Wave, it's a pretty big knife and yet it's so slim and lightweight.
I have a raja 2. Tried to use it for edc. I deployed it to cut open the plastic from 36 pack of coke from Costco and as I swung it up I stabbed a can. Coke sprayed everywhere. It is just too long to do everyday chores like opening stuff up. Gave it up to my son for self defense (he is not a half bad Arnis player), and use it for chopping wood gardening. I have a smaller edc now.
From your fingertips to your elbow is called a cubit, a rough length of measurement from the time before Christ, what I’m wearing shorts or pants with a belt I normally carry my Rhaja two
I carried a two pound folding hawksbill for a couple of years in a bad part of town back in the sixties. The indigenous denizens favored blades, but whenever I pulled that thing out of my back pocket and flicked it open, their eyes got big and their feet got busy. It had the heft to crash through usual defenses and remove hands or more. When I left the area, I sold it for a hefty amount to a local cop as a back up to his aging .38.
I just bought a Boker Magnum Colossus off of you guys and with that and the Jumbones out there you may need to do another of these larger then usual folders,I love the Colossus for $45 after shipping is very nicely made.
As far as carry goes...I've carried every thing from this almost five inch Magnum to small sub two inch blades,why I'm going back to larger and even now bigger then four inch blades is anytime I had the small ones I seemed to find myself saying "dammit!! I wish I had a longer blade!!" So now I'm saying screw it get the biggest thing I can feasibly jam in my pocket and be done with it.....
I need a smaller blade I always have my folding pliers in my left pocket.
That's a beautiful spider. I would not have any problems making it up every day carry, Expression Lee in the city of Houston Texas. I don't go out looking for trouble but when you have to ride the metro and a ghost into shady parts of the city it just makes me feel secure.
I have many Cold Steel Knives bang for the buck can't beat it. Love the Vaquero and ti-light. My go to EDC.
The Cold Steel Espada is the greatest i think. Love it
I’d carry the Raja II. It just seems like the easiest to use (and, personally, I don’t like the knives that seem to take 2 hands to fully operate. Like yall’s video’s!
I carry a somewhat big knife. It is 5 inches. The biggest blade you can have where I live. It is a folding knife. You HAVE to use two hands two open it. It is a locking blade. And I mostly carry it to just know "I have a knife in my pocket" and "I can defend myself If I need too". So basically for self defense
I know the Contest is long over but the Rajah II is actually pretty Handy when You know that Your going to be dealing with heavy cutting Chores..Carried in the Waistband makes it a lot easier..The extra length of the Blade makes slicing through Rope Straps and the Impromtu Pruning Task around the Yard Easy...Try the Spartan its a step down from the Rajah II in Size but not in performance
I carry the spyderco street bowie, I love it. I have also carried cold steel Spartan, the xl espada and several fixed blades like the Kabar marine fighter and gi tanto. Out of all of these and many many more the street bowie is king. Its got a 5 inch blade and weighs less than 4 oz. I carry big knives because big knives do more and if I ever need to fight with a knife big is just better plain and simple.
I EDC a cold steel AK-47 which compared to most EDC blades is a pretty big knife. I get the question of why such a large knife a lot, and I just reply I like the looks and it's very useful!
The last knife with the red handle is a Paratrooper's knife. In fact the eagle claw emblem is that of "Strike" the 502nd. PIR.
Espada Espada or Espada they are fabulous and they open and "click" locked AMAZING. Carried one for a year, had to warn people when I would open it up. People always noticed :-) usually they jumped back when I opened it up. Great knife really excellent fit and finish.
Absolutely, best tactical folder ever made. I carry the large, polished one every day.
I would carry the ESPADA as an EDC. It’s badass! Keep up the great content Blade HQ.
I carry the Cold Steel Voyager XL Clip Point on a regular basis. I love it!
I carry it as a personal protection option, usually pairing it with a SAK, or a Leatherman.
I carry a victorinox SwissChamp and I guess thats considered big for most people. I choose to carry this cause it has a lot of functions and the blade doesn't lock which is a must in my case.
The largest folding knife I currently own is the CRKT Ikoma Fossil 5470. It has a blade length of 3.96" (100.6 mm) and a thickness of 0.15" (3.81 mm). I tend to prefer EDC folding knives with blade lengths closer to 3.00" though such as my Mini-Griptilian and Fossil 5460.
I would carry the xl espada for sure. My edc is an Emerson super cqc8 and a spyderco tatanka. I also carried a cold steel spartan for about a year. The xl espada kinda feels like the next step in my huge knife experience.
cold steel xl tanto voyage series is a part of my EDC rotation and I love it
also carry the Spartan but the width in pocket is not for everyone
I'm sure like most it's defensive for me. I like a 5" blade but I do sometimes carry a cold steel holdout 1. Currently I enjoy the Spyderco Tatanka or the Cold Steel Voyager Tanto. It's important to me to be able to stop a threat quickly but still be hidden and easy to carry. I have considered a few of the larger cold steel folders but I'm fairly happy. I do like to encourage defensive carry no matter what your preferred size. They often make so much more sense than chancing a gun battle in a crowd or around family and loved ones