D express lady is nice. and found that the standard room you showed had a open feeling and a good view to stretch your eyeballs for a distance.. The upper deck pool looked refreshing and chill... very suitable and seemed nice for a stay..
Stayed at Nalanta and it’s the best choice in the area for under 1000 baht. The attached restaurant, copper spoon serves good food and the facility is remarkably clean.
By far, the most informative channel with all details, info and extras about Pattaya! Keep up the excellent work! Little detail, that room she showed you in Nalanta was the same room i had last holiday. My experience in the Nalanta hotel was too noisy (neighbours, cleaning, shouting,..., locationwise it was top!
This type of video is my favorite. I think you have found your niche. I look forward to all your videos of the apartments and condos around Pattaya and Jomtien. Your videos give me a good idea of where are the good places to stay and about how much to spend. I liked the second apartment the best, mainly because it had a pool. I liked the 3rd apartments room the best, but no pool.
I can recommend Nalanta, stayed there in March 2020 just before the first lockdown. Also stayed there a couple of months ago, great rooms and the staff are very friendly. Plus a great location just a few hundred yards from Treetown as well. I stayed in a Standard room both times, absolutely spotless as well.
@UA Slept great, far enough away from any noise. Set back from the road as well and it’s a fairly quiet Soi. There’s a few small beer bars but no real noise issues.
Great choice of hotels for people like me who can mainly only manage a fortnight holiday at a time.good rooms and prices .thanks for the very good videos matey .
Thanks mate I think you do a fantastic job. Whilst the prices are going up post Covid I can see that by changing destinations (eg Soi 6 and not Walking Street etc) you can still have a great time with at a reasonable price
D apartment getting aged but very easy and friendly good rooms. staff when u make the effort they take great care of u stayed there for years not had any problems always my 1st choice..very guest friendly.have taken liberties ha. ha booked next visit already..
Yes agree with the majority DExpress every time. All the ladies who work there are really nice and über friendly. Almost on 3rd road but the steak restaurant on the other side of the road is absolutely great.New Excite square a short walk and also Max club close by.
I've stayed at both D Apartments and D Express and would recommend the latter. It might be a bit up the road but it's worth it. The Nalanta looks good but haven't had the opportunity to stay there. As an aside, do you have any plans to checkout hotels in the Soi 3 to Soi 5 area? Some nice rooms and deals there, close to Terminal 21, some nice restaurants too. Just a short baht bus and your in the action. Cheers!
I love all 3 of those apartments very nice indeed daz you really do a great job on your videos I can't wait until I return to pattaya I really love it there simply beautiful daz
I am reviewing your budget to mid priced condos you reviewed a year ago in Pattaya and Jomtien... Maybe able to visit early to mid 2023 by then and find a suitable place to vacation for 6 months to a year... I really appreciate the videos you have produced over the past year or so on Thailand living practical information on the culture and retirement possibilities... Great Job!
Daz, a visitor couldn't go wrong with ANY of those 3 you showed us. I sure liked the pool on the first one. Thanks for the effort to show us more of Pattaya. See you in a couple of weeks. BTW, so sorry for your loss of your Dear Queen. She broke the mold forever!
I really liked this video Budget hotels on/or around Soi Buakhao part2 the sequel I thought the second Hotel 2nd room (standard) was Great for the price.
Thanks for the video Daz… In my view Nalanta is the best quality wise but doesn’t have a pool. The linen & other stuff looks like of good quality & appears this is a new hotel. Looking forward to stay here in the coming week. Cheers !
Hi ! I stayed in Nalanta for 4 weeks in May. Had a great time !!! Good location close to Soi Bukhao (perfect for night life) !!!! Good value-for-money !!! But no pool and ca. 10min. walk to Pattaya Beach.
Hey Daz, There is another one on the Soi just next to Nalanta if you are coming from Soi Lengkee towards Treeetown. The name of the hotel is Sleep with me & cost is around $ 20-25 with pool. Cheers !!
Stayed at both D Apartment and D Xpress many times. Xpress is my favoured one as its slightly newer. Staff are more friendly, and it's a tad cheaper. I personally don't mind the walk either as there's always something to see on the way!!! Never tried Natalanta.
Hi Daz, another informative video mate thanks for sharing there are/were some more rooms nearly opposite d express that were if I remember rightly only about 550 baht or so a night just down from Smile bar? Don't know if they are still there. But they were very good if you are on a limited budget. You could also use the pool at D express if you stayed there,
stayed at D Apartments 12 times plus and D xpress 4 times , of late i stayed at D xpress . If you correspond with either place ask for Noon at D Apartments ( black shirt ) or Por at D xpress 9 ( Pink shirt ) ........... pretty sure they are sisters , Both can hold communication with you and are decent girls .... i prefer D xpress these days , its newer and DApartments is looking a bit tired on the decking around the pool , always busy and as a really solid reputation , i have been unable to book in at D Hotel at the back of D Apartments as its always busy .......... by the way they have another apartment complex down near D xpress , its called PS Apartment i believe , its even cheaper , no pool , but you can use D xpress swimming pool .
great video's allways, very nice rooms, the prices really not expensive if i compare these prices and the look of the rooms compared to angeles(phillipines) it is simply much much better pattaya, Dexpress superior looks great..anyway i will check out all your video's before arriving even tho i lived many years pattaya it "s been more than 5 years already and allways stayed in condo or near walking street. Thanks very much for sharing!
Another good Video Daz, you sounded a bit out of shape when you got to the top of the stairs of the 1st Hotel, when I travel to Pattaya I come for a holiday not a hotel holiday, so $15K is my limit for a month.
these all look nice. are they relatively quiet places to stay? they all seem to be a comfortable distance from the bars and shops, to reduce nighttime noise?
hi Mr EP, Would be greatful if you could look into whats happening with the Canterbury tales in Soi Chayiapoon, place has closed as the owner has moved to a new bookshop somewhere past 3rd road, is it still going to be a guesthouse, new bar etc, CT's was a well known landmark for many expats and i loved staying at the place, cheers
Really, Really like your videos. If possible, could you show some budget hotels that have most all amenities nearby, centrally located within walking distance, such as Laundry, food & dry goods stores, places to eat, etc.
I stayed at the d apartment this year for 5 weeks ,got a good price ,I think I got it at 400 a nite ,looks like alot of places going up, good location etc as well, small room but all good ,safe was big as most of the hotels thye are super small
I haven’t always checked all of the comments so forgive me if it’s been answered. Is it recommended to book these ahead of time or when you come into town? I’ll be coming to Pattaya for the first time in Feb!
Hi Daz, I will be there in a work vacation kind setting for a while month. Can u please get an info on laptop security kind of thing. Are there hotel which have lockers big enough for laptops? Thanks
MrLOL, consider placing your laptop in your suitcase and then buy a lock with a cable and attach the suitcase to another suitcase or something similar. That is what I'm going to do with my 17.3-inch laptop. Should deter all but the worst.
Sadly it appears my family will hit the peak season when coming to Thailand Daz. Therefore airfares and hotels costs will impact us to high degree I guess 😞
@@chandlerbingbong I was there in July for three weeks and it was 600b. Now I booked one week there in October for 850b. Poolside balcony. Opey has a nice little restaurant also.
I stayed in Nalanta for 4 weeks in May. Had a great time !!! Good location close to Soi Bukhao (perfect for night life) !!!! Good value-for-money !!! But no pool and ca. 10min. walk to Pattaya Beach. Unfortunately they are already booked out for 4 weeks in January ... so booked Areca Lodge 😞
@@germanfalang8897 My friend used to stay there regularly, similar money around £45 daily. Sutus Court is nice that's where l'll stay fingers crossed in January Germanfalang 👍🤞........
@@germanfalang8897 Nice rooms , good location. If your on a tight budget ( The 18 coins hotel) opposite , used to be 450bt daily, nice rooms, safety box in the room. 👍👍
@@everythingPattaya ..... no charge for guests , if going to walking street , use a baht bus and get off at the top of soi 8 and walk through New Plaza
Would you recommend booking hotels in advance or getting ur room when ur there, going to be traveling to Bangkok and pattaya for the first time in a few months. I travel a lot but never been to Thailand b4. I'm very experienced in travel just not to Thailand.
@@everythingPattaya what would you recommend for spending budget Food, entertainment and girls for 2 weeks in pattaya. I want to make sure I don't go over board on but still bring plenty of money. I definitely prefer the different girl every night option lol
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D express lady is nice. and found that the standard room you showed had a open feeling and a good view to stretch your eyeballs for a distance.. The upper deck pool looked refreshing and chill... very suitable and seemed nice for a stay..
Stayed at Nalanta and it’s the best choice in the area for under 1000 baht. The attached restaurant, copper spoon serves good food and the facility is remarkably clean.
I fully agree to your comment
Had a great stay at the D Express back in 2018. The hotel reception staff are the best reception staff I have ever come across.
By far, the most informative channel with all details, info and extras about Pattaya! Keep up the excellent work! Little detail, that room she showed you in Nalanta was the same room i had last holiday.
My experience in the Nalanta hotel was too noisy (neighbours, cleaning, shouting,..., locationwise it was top!
D Xpress an absolutely fantastic location, and Big C extra nearby a huge plus, right in the heart of the action
This type of video is my favorite. I think you have found your niche. I look forward to all your videos of the apartments and condos around Pattaya and Jomtien. Your videos give me a good idea of where are the good places to stay and about how much to spend.
I liked the second apartment the best, mainly because it had a pool. I liked the 3rd apartments room the best, but no pool.
More to come!
Agree. The 2nd one was nice.
I can recommend Nalanta, stayed there in March 2020 just before the first lockdown. Also stayed there a couple of months ago, great rooms and the staff are very friendly. Plus a great location just a few hundred yards from Treetown as well. I stayed in a Standard room both times, absolutely spotless as well.
@UA Slept great, far enough away from any noise. Set back from the road as well and it’s a fairly quiet Soi. There’s a few small beer bars but no real noise issues.
Nalanta doesn’t have a pool?
If you’re only there for 2/3 nights that’s not an issue, but agree long term it could be. Although you’re not that far from the beach 😉
Great choice of hotels for people like me who can mainly only manage a fortnight holiday at a time.good rooms and prices .thanks for the very good videos matey .
Thanks mate I think you do a fantastic job. Whilst the prices are going up post Covid I can see that by changing destinations (eg Soi 6 and not Walking Street etc) you can still have a great time with at a reasonable price
Daz, I agree with you. I think the Express is a better value and a nicer room. The woman at the front desk was very pleasant and welcoming.
that is Por
D apartment getting aged but very easy and friendly good rooms. staff when u make the effort they take great care of u stayed there for years not had any problems always my 1st choice..very guest friendly.have taken liberties ha. ha booked next visit already..
Yes agree with the majority DExpress every time. All the ladies who work there are really nice and über friendly. Almost on 3rd road but the steak restaurant on the other side of the road is absolutely great.New Excite square a short walk and also Max club close by.
Your a living legend. What a great guy
I've stayed at both D Apartments and D Express and would recommend the latter. It might be a bit up the road but it's worth it. The Nalanta looks good but haven't had the opportunity to stay there. As an aside, do you have any plans to checkout hotels in the Soi 3 to Soi 5 area? Some nice rooms and deals there, close to Terminal 21, some nice restaurants too. Just a short baht bus and your in the action. Cheers!
Sabai lodge on soi 2 is nice too
That Soi 3/5 suggestion is a good one. Baht bus on hand and a shortish walk to Naklua.
Yeah, the second place, D express I would stay, we enjoyed watching.
Great way to show us around in hotelland. Keep us informed 🙏
I love all 3 of those apartments very nice indeed daz you really do a great job on your videos I can't wait until I return to pattaya I really love it there simply beautiful daz
Another good video - hard to choose which hotel to pick as they all look nice and good prices too
I liked the last place. its good value , Monthly rates weren't discussed but calculating it seems good value overall.
I am reviewing your budget to mid priced condos you reviewed a year ago in Pattaya and Jomtien... Maybe able to visit early to mid 2023 by then and find a suitable place to vacation for 6 months to a year... I really appreciate the videos you have produced over the past year or so on Thailand living practical information on the culture and retirement possibilities... Great Job!
Daz, a visitor couldn't go wrong with ANY of those 3 you showed us. I sure liked the pool on the first one. Thanks for the effort to show us more of Pattaya. See you in a couple of weeks. BTW, so sorry for your loss of your Dear Queen. She broke the mold forever!
Great video. Even better sound! Thank you!
Considered the D Express and Nalanta for my trip in November but booked my old favourite the D Hotel in the end.
Mate..Good information. And I've been following your channel, like your presentation style and respectful personality to others.
Wm
I appreciate that!
Nice video. Daz it’s good to see the difference in rooms to superior or standard not a lot difference I’m mostly happy with standard room
D -appartment stayed there about 20 times great hotel
I stay in D Express now, very nice hotel for a good price
I really liked this video Budget hotels on/or around Soi Buakhao part2 the sequel
I thought the second Hotel 2nd room (standard) was Great for the price.
Excellent effort.
Thank you 👍
I usually stay at D Hotel and I really enjoy it. D Express looks almost exactly like D Hotel but maybe with a facelift. 👍🏽
I plan on staying at selina place hotel after i depart hilton hotel . Great info daz open my eyes more all nice cheap hotels around pattaya
Gee Daz you must have a lot of friends coming next month 555. Love your videos mate, they are like a drug I'm addicted too. Cheers
Me tooo , cheers from Serbian fan in Miami.
Thanks Daz have a great day 😊
Thanks for the video Daz… In my view Nalanta is the best quality wise but doesn’t have a pool. The linen & other stuff looks like of good quality & appears this is a new hotel.
Looking forward to stay here in the coming week.
Cheers !
Hi ! I stayed in Nalanta for 4 weeks in May. Had a great time !!! Good location close to Soi Bukhao (perfect for night life) !!!! Good value-for-money !!! But no pool and ca. 10min. walk to Pattaya Beach.
Hey Daz,
There is another one on the Soi just next to Nalanta if you are coming from Soi Lengkee towards Treeetown. The name of the hotel is Sleep with me & cost is around $ 20-25 with pool.
Cheers !!
My Brother I love your Hotel Tour videos you are the best. I 😘 be watching your Videos.
Thanks for sharing Daz, regards from England 🍺🍺👍
Thanks for this visiting for the first time in December really helpful
great places to start off before I find a condo
Try to find room / app with reel kitchen. Around 15000 bath a month . These 3 you show are to expensieve . ( soi bongkot area)
when you enter the street i said hey i remember here. :))
i stayed 2 monts in thep apartment which after 2-3 building D apartment.
Good video. Quite helpful to see what you get for the money. I like the cheaper “barely acceptable “ accommodations
Stayed at both D Apartment and D Xpress many times. Xpress is my favoured one as its slightly newer. Staff are more friendly, and it's a tad cheaper. I personally don't mind the walk either as there's always something to see on the way!!! Never tried Natalanta.
Hey Daz, after that run up the stairs, time to hit the cardio room.N’est-ce pas?🤣🤣🤣
OR, more STs! Always good for the ol' ticker!
The second hotel is excellent.
Great video, with great info , thx mate
Hi Daz, another informative video mate thanks for sharing there are/were some more rooms nearly opposite d express that were if I remember rightly only about 550 baht or so a night just down from Smile bar? Don't know if they are still there. But they were very good if you are on a limited budget. You could also use the pool at D express if you stayed there,
What a great channel... you are awesome man
I appreciate that!
I love your videos about budgets hotel 👍 would be nice to see the map where they are…! Very good
stayed at D Apartments 12 times plus and D xpress 4 times , of late i stayed at D xpress . If you correspond with either place ask for Noon at D Apartments ( black shirt ) or Por at D xpress 9 ( Pink shirt ) ........... pretty sure they are sisters , Both can hold communication with you and are decent girls .... i prefer D xpress these days , its newer and DApartments is looking a bit tired on the decking around the pool , always busy and as a really solid reputation , i have been unable to book in at D Hotel at the back of D Apartments as its always busy .......... by the way they have another apartment complex down near D xpress , its called PS Apartment i believe , its even cheaper , no pool , but you can use D xpress swimming pool .
Really like your hotel review videos, the 3rd hotel is the best, just a pity no pool,
Thanks for the leg work, much appreciated. 😀
great video's allways, very nice rooms, the prices really not expensive if i compare these prices and the look of the rooms compared to angeles(phillipines) it is simply much much better pattaya, Dexpress superior looks great..anyway i will check out all your video's before arriving even tho i lived many years pattaya it "s been more than 5 years already and allways stayed in condo or near walking street. Thanks very much for sharing!
Thank you for the good review.
❤❤❤ From D Xpress❤
You are so welcome!
Another good Video Daz, you sounded a bit out of shape when you got to the top of the stairs of the 1st Hotel, when I travel to Pattaya I come for a holiday not a hotel holiday, so $15K is my limit for a month.
I finally made it to being the first like. Been trying for three weeks
haha
Ha! nice Mark, good job sir!
Congrats
these all look nice. are they relatively quiet places to stay? they all seem to be a comfortable distance from the bars and shops, to reduce nighttime noise?
Love your stuff can you recommend a decent hotel cost wise near the beach ish please I fly out tonight
I stayed at Nalanta in August for 6 nights. And I will return again.
Good thing about Pattaya hotel prices compare to Western eurpoean country's super value for your money
Once again a great video and great information when I come back in January I will be staying so can do cheap apartments or condos thanks.
Love your videos sir.
So nice of you
hi Mr EP, Would be greatful if you could look into whats happening with the Canterbury tales in Soi Chayiapoon, place has closed as the owner has moved to a new bookshop somewhere past 3rd road, is it still going to be a guesthouse, new bar etc, CT's was a well known landmark for many expats and i loved staying at the place, cheers
It has been sold, probably going to be a new fancy bar, wait and see.
Really, Really like your videos. If possible, could you show some budget hotels that have most all amenities nearby, centrally located within walking distance, such as Laundry, food & dry goods stores, places to eat, etc.
That is EXACTLY what this series is doing, how come you can't see that ???
@@CheekyMonkey007 He did not mention join fees? Are there any for these places? Figured I would ask you as you seem to be local. :)
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No join fees for Anything
I stayed at the d apartment this year for 5 weeks ,got a good price ,I think I got it at 400 a nite ,looks like alot of places going up, good location etc as well, small room but all good ,safe was big as most of the hotels thye are super small
Thanks, good video!👍 And can you show some budget places around Soi 6, please?
I haven’t always checked all of the comments so forgive me if it’s been answered. Is it recommended to book these ahead of time or when you come into town? I’ll be coming to Pattaya for the first time in Feb!
In Feb best book ahead
Always book ahead. Then you know where you are staying
Great, thanks for the advice!
Just been to Pattaya beach club, swimming trunks and towel in bag, didnt look like the review you in when building it,
It's been closed down for a few weeks now, didn't last long.
best hotel in pattaya😍
Hey! would be a great help to check the wifi. Seems to vary from crap to mediocre in most places I have stayed in!
Hi Daz, I will be there in a work vacation kind setting for a while month.
Can u please get an info on laptop security kind of thing. Are there hotel which have lockers big enough for laptops?
Thanks
Use a kensington lock if does not fit inside. It is a safe country !!! The luck is with the brave
MrLOL, consider placing your laptop in your suitcase and then buy a lock with a cable and attach the suitcase to another suitcase or something similar. That is what I'm going to do with my 17.3-inch laptop. Should deter all but the worst.
as always, much appreciated!
I put $30 in the coffee fund. Keep it up Daz!
Great video Daz thx for sharing.. Maybe try a review of the D hotel . For myself I always stay there when in Pattaya.
All a tad basic for my taste. Rather pay an extra 200/300. Like a bit of comfort
6:40 sneaky smoking - hiding behind the potted plants. 5555
Sadly it appears my family will hit the peak season when coming to Thailand Daz. Therefore airfares and hotels costs will impact us to high degree I guess 😞
Very reasonable , thank you ...
The last one is expensive ! 899 a night very expensive for a month! That's 630 a month in pounds !!
what's the walkability score for easy access Tuk tuks and baht buses. I don't mind a 10 or 20 minute walk to beach or restaurant
13:04 what a very interesting building! Any info regarding it? Thank you, anyway and as ever, for sharing so many interesting tips.
Soft beds hard battles lol. Daz when you do chaba hut can you ask how much long time stay would be monthly. Thanks
I don't understand something here Daz. The 1st Nov - 31st of Jan the superior is 4000 and the deluxe is 7000?
Excellent hotels, Daz. I think Opey de Place always looks a good budget option - but never stayed there myself.
Is that the one in Soi Lenkee? looks expensive 👍
@@jimmydempsey6857 That's the one. Can't be more than 1000b per night - although if it starts getting busier ...📈
@@chandlerbingbong Never stayed in Lenkee it's always been Buakhao or 2nd road in the early days Soi 7/8 was the main one Chandler 👍
@@chandlerbingbong I was there in July for three weeks and it was 600b. Now I booked one week there in October for 850b. Poolside balcony. Opey has a nice little restaurant also.
i prefer stay in cheapest and spend money in shops bars and attractions,taxi. when a wanna stay in hotel 1_2days a buy the best one.
I stayed in Nalanta for 4 weeks in May. Had a great time !!! Good location close to Soi Bukhao (perfect for night life) !!!! Good value-for-money !!! But no pool and ca. 10min. walk to Pattaya Beach. Unfortunately they are already booked out for 4 weeks in January ... so booked Areca Lodge 😞
How much is it at the Areca for a month these days ? 👍
@@jimmydempsey6857 Hi Jimmy, I pay 57 EUR/night. But I already booked in June. I think it's more expensive if you book for January now.
@@germanfalang8897 My friend used to stay there regularly, similar money around £45 daily. Sutus Court is nice that's where l'll stay fingers crossed in January Germanfalang 👍🤞........
@@jimmydempsey6857 Sutus Court was also shortlisted for me. Very good location (on Soi Bukhao, directly opposite Soi Boomerang). 👍
@@germanfalang8897 Nice rooms , good location. If your on a tight budget ( The 18 coins hotel) opposite , used to be 450bt daily, nice rooms, safety box in the room. 👍👍
Great video!
If you go in the off season is it cheaper to book online or just walk in
Hi Daz... Of the 3 you showed which one would be a quieter stay?
I think D Express
Any chance of reviewing nature view staying there 23 nights in December. Cheers
Are these all guest friendly with no extra cost?
Are these near the action on Walking Street?
Apologies in advance never been there.
Yes, free guests.
There is only RIP OFF action on W St, stay around Soi Buakhao
@@everythingPattaya ..... no charge for guests , if going to walking street , use a baht bus and get off at the top of soi 8 and walk through New Plaza
I normally stay in winner place next door to d apartment
the winner hotel the next door to this hotel big room with balcony 17000 THB for month and the room very big this is not cheap,,,have agood day
But it has NO Swimming Pool
Would you recommend booking hotels in advance or getting ur room when ur there, going to be traveling to Bangkok and pattaya for the first time in a few months. I travel a lot but never been to Thailand b4. I'm very experienced in travel just not to Thailand.
Book in advance
@@everythingPattaya what would you recommend for spending budget Food, entertainment and girls for 2 weeks in pattaya. I want to make sure I don't go over board on but still bring plenty of money. I definitely prefer the different girl every night option lol
It looks like prices are going up.
25000 - 30000 baht per month? I think thats expensive. Very Expensive, especially for what it appears to be.
They are Hotels Not condos
@@CheekyMonkey007 Its still expensive, and as far as a hotel is concerned it looks more like low budget accommodation in any other country.
AQUA JANTIEN IS POSSIBLY THE BEST IVE SEEN ' 10000 BAHT A MONTH SOME 8000 ' 3 SWIMMING POOLS GOOD ROOM WITH LOUNGE TV FRIDGE CLEAN DOUBLE BED NEAR THE MARKET AND BEACH
what is the name of the road to these budget hotels on Soi Buakhao interested thanks
I wonder why people dont always rent a condo which is same price than cheap hotel? Few years old condos seems to be very nice. Can someone explain?
Enjoy all your videos.
I'm retired in Thailand an important factor for me is, does the hotel have car parking facilities and cost if any?
I have never known any hotel to charge for their own car parking
@@everythingPattaya D Apartment has parking , pretty sure its free too
Thank you lads
I used to live near Heathrow and parking was a nightmare.
I staying Chaba Hut hope to see next review
How much was the last one copperspoon' for 1 month?
Grand Avenue Condos are £1200 for one month.
Mid Dec to Mid Jan.
Whaaat , no thanks, yak 1200
all are good, 3 was nicest but bad location ?