Thenk you for this video Sensei, it left me speechless! You breafly toutched on this when we met last year but at the time i did not realise how siriously you were treating the dilemma on learning Jissen Kata wile keeping it hidden to preserve his functionality! I really respect your choise to leave it aside since you could not use it in combat sports. Loving Karate so mutch to the point of not learning a part of it to preserve it's efficacy is really somthing to look up to. I think i will follow your exsample and leave jissen kata aside eaven if my curiosity really burns. Osu! Ps. This is my favourite video on your channel! Really blew my mind!
Thank you for your passionate comment. Motobu Choki said, “It is enough for Kata to do only naihanchi. There are many Okinawan karate practitioners who say “I respect him” or “I admire him". But unfortunately, very few who take these words of his seriously and follow it.
Great video sensei! Thank you. Osu! I recognized those incorect bunkai and I also think they are ridiculous. However, I am also not convinced by the "true" bunkai. It explains the exact movements, but having the stance with lure guard seems not very pracical. However, I must admit this might be close to the truth. Kata was created long time ago on Okinawa, this type of lure might be perfectly valid in the context of history and culture, but unfortunately doesn't look very promising in a self defence situation in modern times. Anyway I will try it in my training, maybe it will have more meaning then. Thank you again, and please create more videos like that. This is huge help for me in my karate do. Osu!
Thank you for your passionate comment. Unfortunately, this will probably be my first and last post on Bunkai. Please take a look at my past videos. If you are pursuing karate as a martial art and are also struggling with questions like "What is kata?!" and "How does kata relate to actual fighting?!", I guarantee that the videos on this channel will be your treasure trove.
Sensei Watanabe, from your videos I understood what is the reason of practice of Naihanchi. (centrifugal force and COG) My question is, what about the other two katas..Seisan and Pinan sho or nidan? What can you develop with them in your actual battle? Thank you!
Thank you for your comment. I plan to discuss Tomari Seisan in the video after next, and Pinan Nidan will be covered in the video following that. Stay tuned!
I practice Karate as a traditional art I think - after this video. I'm in love of Martial Arts as all since '90s as I was a teenager. Now I practice Shorin-Ryu Karate, but not "sport" Karate, nor tournament. I seek for very true meaning of katas. And it is important for me to know Naihanchi shodan is for training purposes, nobody told me that so far... I also seek for every information how to use katas in real fight. I assumed, any defence fight will evolve to a short distance fight, more like grappling, etc. So I look more for grappling usage of katas or joint-locks, combined with takedowns, throws, than a punch-techniques. And I do understand every open hand could be a fist or every fist in katas could be open hand. It depends of situation I belive? After 5 years of my Karate-Do I understood Karate is more like this short distance fights with every element OTHER than punches or kicks. And it was like nirvana for me :) Anyways, this is really great content, Shihan! I really look forward for Your videos! Arigato gozaimasu!
The inherent problem with this kata's bunkai is that the way this kata is done now is very far removed from what okinawans did when they first put together the Pinan Kata, its more akin to what Funakoshi slapped together when he started Shotokan Karate.
The same is true for any other kata. Even if there is a kata that has been handed down in its original form without any mistakes. ① If you interpret that kata with an incorrect bunkai, it will not be effective training for actual fight. ② The true bunkai of that kata should not be known to others. ③ If you do not have the ability to defeat an opponent with one blow, knowing the true bunkai is of no use. These conclusions remain unchanged.
My fights from the past few years have been posted here. ruclips.net/p/PLvVju5c9tSxXAAY9xUDS-0QvgKsi9rBBR This video clearly explains how the kata movements are utilized in those fights. ruclips.net/video/Eem-0d6swls/видео.html Check it out.
I named my karate "Yuiga-ryu Karate". "Yuiga" means "just oneself". Therefore, "Yuiga-ryu Karate" means "Karate in a style just for me." Well, it's a half-joking name.(Lol) However, the half are joke and the half are very earnest. No matter how you learn from very excellent sensei, in the end you can only master the secrets and essence with your own efforts. And when you mastered it, you can't say it's exactly the same as your sensei's. It should have transformed into your own style. In that sense, all karate is "Yuiga-ryu". yuigaryukarate.web.fc2.com/yuiga.html
individual practice of basics from Kata and keeping Kata itself as a reference plus randori and kumite regularly with a partner is Karate. Application or bunkai is a complete waste of time and energy. Technique in combat comes from the movements of Kata instinctively from proper practice, it is never going to be exactly as it is practiced. Repetition constantly is the creator of instinct that allows you to be instantaneous in your reactions. Bunkai is practicing something that has no purpose and it amazes me that high ranking Sensei include it in their teaching practice.
Osu Watanabe Sensei! Very interesting bunkai, but there is another approach on the whole, a quite different approach by Sensei Abernethy. if u are interested u can find it under: Iain Abernethy’s karate bunkai. Thank u for the video! Osu!
@@otakhonmatchanov3278 the critique still stands in my opinion. Eaven in the tecnique extracted by the kata is functional like the ones shown by Abernathy, do you need to train it in kata?
Thanks for the info. I have looked at several videos on naihanchi and pinan. You have already received replies from others and my opinion is the same. Furthermore, those bunkai don't seem very effective either just in my opinion. At best, it would be effective against an unresisting opponent, i.e. someone who is significantly inferior to you in size and strength, or who is completely caught off guard. I don't think it would be a very effective technique if someone of similar size and strength to you is in full battle mode, i.e., they are trying to attack you with all their might while at the same time trying to resist your attack with all their might.
Please excuse my possible ignorance, but the key takeaway I gathered from Sensei Abernethy’s classes is that the traditional Okinawan Katas were not intended for consensual fighting or sparring. All techniques are effective at very close distances or in a clinch. Attempts to adapt them for consensual sparring or distance fighting generally fall short. Those who have experienced real street fights or witnessed them will understand this. However, if the bunkai works for you, that's wonderful-no questions there. In my observations of real fights and sport sparring, including Sensei Watanabi’s matches, I haven’t noticed any applications of kata. My black belt colleagues who practice Kudo also do not incorporate katas into their competition training because they find them impractical for fights. Coming from a Goju lineage combined with Kyokushin, I believe katas are valuable; the challenge lies in understanding how to interpret and apply them. I’ve started my journey to explore the bunkais and test them under pressure. So far, I find Sensei Abernethy’s approach very compelling and logical. Again, this is just my perspective, and I don’t have much time to engage in theoretical discussions or writings. For me, karate is a vital part of my life, and I learn through practice and pressure testing in real situations, which I believe is the original intention of karate. There are many black belts who enjoy karate for fitness, aesthetics, and culture. My journey focuses on learning and practicing karate as a self-defense tool. Thank you again for this wonderful video, will continue to follow your channel to generate more knowledge. Osu!
@@otakhonmatchanov3278different people have different experience and perspective. For me the most important is to experience by ourselves. Our life should not depend on other people opinion. I take people opinion as valuable input but my opinion in my own. Regarding original Bunkai, I believe it will be helpful to find references from Kung Fu, Silat, etc. especialy considering the contact between the Okinawan with other civilizations in their neighbourhood. There is no guarantee that we will find the truth but it is good to enrich our horizon and understanding. But if we become better it should be good, not important whether we trained the original or not.
Thenk you for this video Sensei, it left me speechless!
You breafly toutched on this when we met last year but at the time i did not realise how siriously you were treating the dilemma on learning Jissen Kata wile keeping it hidden to preserve his functionality! I really respect your choise to leave it aside since you could not use it in combat sports.
Loving Karate so mutch to the point of not learning a part of it to preserve it's efficacy is really somthing to look up to.
I think i will follow your exsample and leave jissen kata aside eaven if my curiosity really burns.
Osu!
Ps. This is my favourite video on your channel! Really blew my mind!
Thank you for your passionate comment.
Motobu Choki said, “It is enough for Kata to do only naihanchi.
There are many Okinawan karate practitioners who say “I respect him” or “I admire him". But unfortunately, very few who take these words of his seriously and follow it.
Очень нужная и полезная информация!!! Огромное спасибо!!!👍💪🙏
Very interesting sensei! Keep up the good work!
Great video sensei! Thank you. Osu! I recognized those incorect bunkai and I also think they are ridiculous. However, I am also not convinced by the "true" bunkai. It explains the exact movements, but having the stance with lure guard seems not very pracical. However, I must admit this might be close to the truth. Kata was created long time ago on Okinawa, this type of lure might be perfectly valid in the context of history and culture, but unfortunately doesn't look very promising in a self defence situation in modern times. Anyway I will try it in my training, maybe it will have more meaning then. Thank you again, and please create more videos like that. This is huge help for me in my karate do. Osu!
Thank you for your passionate comment.
Unfortunately, this will probably be my first and last post on Bunkai.
Please take a look at my past videos.
If you are pursuing karate as a martial art and are also struggling with questions like "What is kata?!" and "How does kata relate to actual fighting?!", I guarantee that the videos on this channel will be your treasure trove.
Merci beaucoup d'avoir montré la ridiculité de toutes ces applications qu'on nous vend comme "innovatrices". Y en avait marre!!
Sensei Watanabe, from your videos I understood what is the reason of practice of Naihanchi. (centrifugal force and COG)
My question is, what about the other two katas..Seisan and Pinan sho or nidan?
What can you develop with them in your actual battle?
Thank you!
Thank you for your comment.
I plan to discuss Tomari Seisan in the video after next, and Pinan Nidan will be covered in the video following that. Stay tuned!
Thank you! Im looking forward the next chapters..
コメント失礼致します。大道塾は護身に役立ちますでしょうか？
はい、役立つと思います。過信は禁物ですが。
最良の護身は「危ない場所や相手には最初から近づかないこと」ですから。
@@shinjiwatanabe8131 返信有り難うございます。
そうですね、それが一番の護身です。
あとは素直に謝罪出来るかどうかもかなり重要になると思います。
謝罪すればそれで済んだ事も謝罪せずに
相手の怒りや反感を買ってしまいトラブルになった人沢山見て来ました。
こちらに非が無くても素直に謝る事もまた
勇気だと思ってます。
変に格闘技かじって自信ついてる時が一番危ないかもですね、謙虚な気持ちが大事ですね。
I practice Karate as a traditional art I think - after this video. I'm in love of Martial Arts as all since '90s as I was a teenager. Now I practice Shorin-Ryu Karate, but not "sport" Karate, nor tournament. I seek for very true meaning of katas. And it is important for me to know Naihanchi shodan is for training purposes, nobody told me that so far... I also seek for every information how to use katas in real fight. I assumed, any defence fight will evolve to a short distance fight, more like grappling, etc. So I look more for grappling usage of katas or joint-locks, combined with takedowns, throws, than a punch-techniques. And I do understand every open hand could be a fist or every fist in katas could be open hand. It depends of situation I belive? After 5 years of my Karate-Do I understood Karate is more like this short distance fights with every element OTHER than punches or kicks. And it was like nirvana for me :)
Anyways, this is really great content, Shihan! I really look forward for Your videos! Arigato gozaimasu!
The inherent problem with this kata's bunkai is that the way this kata is done now is very far removed from what okinawans did when they first put together the Pinan Kata, its more akin to what Funakoshi slapped together when he started Shotokan Karate.
The same is true for any other kata.
Even if there is a kata that has been handed down in its original form without any mistakes.
① If you interpret that kata with an incorrect bunkai, it will not be effective training for actual fight.
② The true bunkai of that kata should not be known to others.
③ If you do not have the ability to defeat an opponent with one blow, knowing the true bunkai is of no use.
These conclusions remain unchanged.
very interesting video, arigato gozaimasu
Nice speech, now in which OTHER video are your actual techniques placed ?
My fights from the past few years have been posted here.
ruclips.net/p/PLvVju5c9tSxXAAY9xUDS-0QvgKsi9rBBR
This video clearly explains how the kata movements are utilized in those fights.
ruclips.net/video/Eem-0d6swls/видео.html
Check it out.
Thanks for the video. I also practice the interpretation of a famous sensei from Okinawa. 😁
Very interesting Sensei Watanabe. Thanks for sharing!
Yuiga-ryu? I have not heard of that style.
I named my karate "Yuiga-ryu Karate".
"Yuiga" means "just oneself". Therefore, "Yuiga-ryu Karate" means "Karate in a style just for me." Well, it's a half-joking name.(Lol)
However, the half are joke and the half are very earnest.
No matter how you learn from very excellent sensei, in the end you can only master the secrets and essence with your own efforts.
And when you mastered it, you can't say it's exactly the same as your sensei's. It should have transformed into your own style.
In that sense, all karate is "Yuiga-ryu".
yuigaryukarate.web.fc2.com/yuiga.html
Still not true bunkai
individual practice of basics from Kata and keeping Kata itself as a reference plus randori and kumite regularly with a partner is Karate. Application or bunkai is a complete waste of time and energy. Technique in combat comes from the movements of Kata instinctively from proper practice, it is never going to be exactly as it is practiced. Repetition constantly is the creator of instinct that allows you to be instantaneous in your reactions. Bunkai is practicing something that has no purpose and it amazes me that high ranking Sensei include it in their teaching practice.
Osu Watanabe Sensei! Very interesting bunkai, but there is another approach on the whole, a quite different approach by Sensei Abernethy. if u are interested u can find it under: Iain Abernethy’s karate bunkai. Thank u for the video! Osu!
@@otakhonmatchanov3278 the critique still stands in my opinion. Eaven in the tecnique extracted by the kata is functional like the ones shown by Abernathy, do you need to train it in kata?
Thanks for the info. I have looked at several videos on naihanchi and pinan.
You have already received replies from others and my opinion is the same. Furthermore, those bunkai don't seem very effective either just in my opinion.
At best, it would be effective against an unresisting opponent, i.e. someone who is significantly inferior to you in size and strength, or who is completely caught off guard.
I don't think it would be a very effective technique if someone of similar size and strength to you is in full battle mode, i.e., they are trying to attack you with all their might while at the same time trying to resist your attack with all their might.
Please excuse my possible ignorance, but the key takeaway I gathered from Sensei Abernethy’s classes is that the traditional Okinawan Katas were not intended for consensual fighting or sparring. All techniques are effective at very close distances or in a clinch. Attempts to adapt them for consensual sparring or distance fighting generally fall short. Those who have experienced real street fights or witnessed them will understand this. However, if the bunkai works for you, that's wonderful-no questions there.
In my observations of real fights and sport sparring, including Sensei Watanabi’s matches, I haven’t noticed any applications of kata. My black belt colleagues who practice Kudo also do not incorporate katas into their competition training because they find them impractical for fights. Coming from a Goju lineage combined with Kyokushin, I believe katas are valuable; the challenge lies in understanding how to interpret and apply them. I’ve started my journey to explore the bunkais and test them under pressure.
So far, I find Sensei Abernethy’s approach very compelling and logical. Again, this is just my perspective, and I don’t have much time to engage in theoretical discussions or writings. For me, karate is a vital part of my life, and I learn through practice and pressure testing in real situations, which I believe is the original intention of karate. There are many black belts who enjoy karate for fitness, aesthetics, and culture. My journey focuses on learning and practicing karate as a self-defense tool. Thank you again for this wonderful video, will continue to follow your channel to generate more knowledge. Osu!
@@otakhonmatchanov3278different people have different experience and perspective. For me the most important is to experience by ourselves. Our life should not depend on other people opinion. I take people opinion as valuable input but my opinion in my own. Regarding original Bunkai, I believe it will be helpful to find references from Kung Fu, Silat, etc. especialy considering the contact between the Okinawan with other civilizations in their neighbourhood. There is no guarantee that we will find the truth but it is good to enrich our horizon and understanding. But if we become better it should be good, not important whether we trained the original or not.