"The stand could kill someone, assuming you could wield it" _it was much too big to be called a stand. Indeed, it was too broad, too rough. It was more like a hunk of raw iron_
@@PhobosDDeimos Actually it would only take 5! At 55" diagonal that gives a curve width of 121.8cm. The circumference of a 1000R (200cm) circle is 628.3cm (pi*200), and 628.3/121.8 = 5.15 monitors. That doesn't include bezels so it would be pretty close, and it would be a nice odd number for surround!
@Phobos&Deimos How about we actually calculate how many it would take to make a full circle, since this is a 1000R display (meaning if a circle was made, it would have a radius of 1000 mm, or 1 m) the circumference of that circle (2πr) would be about 6.283 m, looking up the dimensions of the ark, it seems that it's 114.76 cm wide, (or 1.1476 m wide) dividing the circumference by the width would get us a result of 5.47, so we would need about 5 and a half ark monitors horizontally to fully complete a circle, this got me interested in to seeing how many in vertical mode would be required to complete it, the monitor's height is 537.2 cm, doing the same thing we've done before would yield us a result of about 11.7, all of this, however, depends on wether or not the measurements factor in the bezels, so it's pretty fair to assume that it would require 6 arks horizontally, or 12 arks vertically to complete a circle.
@@nickh8649 The Neo G8 is awesome 🙂 I know Samsung has been having some QC complaints but I got 3 good ones. I've got Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered running on triple 4K 😁 My latest video posted
I recently listened in on a discussion regarding how Monitors are usually the afterthought of the gaming setup. Even with all the PC bottlenecks accounted for, people neglect to spend an equivalent amount on monitors to match. This is the counter to that scenario.
Would love a triple Odyssey Ark setup for sim racing but I don't think GPU capability will get there until maybe 3 generations. Why do I have to be limited by the technology of my time 😢
Oh shit it's toast. Haven't seen your channel in years man. You were one of the guys that got me into beatbox years back. Great to see you're still online
Great so now not only do I need more money than I have to buy the monitor, I’m also expected to have a friend. These requirements get more and more difficult.
computers and internet primarily use white and black. which are both unnatural. and often flip between the two which can cause nerve damage over time. bigger monitor accelerates this
@@mikelisteral7863 Cant find anything about it so I guess its bullshit. Bilions people work with monitors and some of them works even 8h a day for 3 decades and they are all fine. Also in theory they dont disolay white but rgb
Today I learn: Linus Sebastien is the official measurement tool for monitor sizing. Makes me a little uncomfortable asking for something "in a half-Linus size."
Ok, I'm not gonna lie, out of all the outrageous stuff I usually see when I pull LTT up... This is ACTUALLY something I'd like to own. If for nothing more than being able to use 1 screen as 3.
Look into the dell P4317Q if you need multiple screens for work/productivity but not gaming, as it gives you 4 new screens in one monitor. I’ve got both that and an oddesy G9 (the older version of the ark), I find the dell way better for work (I work in finance) while the G9 is just a little less user friendly so I keep that for gaming once in a blue moon.
just ordered the gen 2 for 1800, got the Samsung care 2 year for the extra 200$, why not. Super excited been using the same 27in acer monitor since i built my PC in 2015
As someone who has tested many multiple monitor layouts, I can say with certainty that a vertical setup like this results in waking up to terrible persistent neck pain.
unless you modify your desk so the monitor sits way below your keyboard and your head is in front of the middle of the screen. Then you could look down or up to see the lower or the upper third.
@@michaelrichter2528 Yeah, something like the desk Wendell from Level1Techs built awhile back would be ideal for this. He used seperate panels in that one, but I think it could work here.
computers and internet primarily use white and black. which are both unnatural. and often flip between the two which can cause nerve damage over time. bigger monitor accelerates this
I agree that it's heavy, but to my knowledge both this counter and the table in the PC build corner are mounted on electric standing desk legs that move up and down. I get why they did that for shooting/production purposes, but I've always seen those benches move around even with light things on them in other videos lol
See this is perfect. Thank you Samsung! Now when my wife objects to me wanting an Odyssey G9 I can say, "Well, I think $1,200 is a steal compared to the $3,500 Ark I _could_ buy."
I suspect that the reason it doesn't support 2 simultaneous HDMI views at once goes back to the OneConnect box -- That box probably has an HDMI switch inside as opposed to transmitting 4 separate HDMI 2.1 links to the monitor that the monitor switches between. If that's the case, then there's only one HDMI link from the OneConnect box to the monitor, so no firmware update would be able to address that. That would also make it far less surprising that it has 4 HDMI 2.1 ports on the OneConnect box.
That and Tizen OS makes it a direct no for me. It is basically a TV with an OS that’ll drive you mad. ADS on your monitor directly? Are you for real? The moment Linus said that I was like… okay I’ll never be getting that one then. To bad. Because it looks awesome.
That's correct the OneConnect works as a switch as you said so a firmware update wouldn't fix it but at the price point of $3500 if samsung wanted they can modify the OneConnect for it, if they actually do an offical release. And since its a gaming monitor they have got to add dp ports
@wei have had a chg, crg, and g9 odyssey I've never had a single problem with any of then each owned about a year trading up. Best monitors I've had I have no idea about their low end monitors though
Linus: "So 80 cm is the optimal distance, let me see. WOW it looks amazing!" Me: "PUT THE FREAKING CAMERA IN THAT SPOT SO WE CAN SEE IT TOO!!!! DAMN U"
I need an aggressively curved 55" monitor. Exactly what I have been looking for. But wow that price! And the lack of multi-HDMI is a deal breaker. For me the whole point is to plug in two different computers to split the four screens.
"And the lack of multi-HDMI is a deal breaker. For me the whole point is to plug in two different computers to split the four screens." You know you can use any 55" TV, right? 🤦🏿♀
My guess is that managing variable sync/frame rates from multiple sources was too much of a headache. Definitely solvable in theory but probably got tossed into the too-hard basket.
@@glittalogik Doesn't the Neo G9 have that capability tho? Weird that they can do it on that monitor but not this one. It's a shame too because I love all the screen real estate. But not having picture in picture just really makes it a lot worse in comparison to say 1 Neo G9 or even two with the ability to have multiple sources on the same screen.
Same. As of right now, it cost $2000 and if I could get various sources, I would be definitively request this installed in my working office, because then I could connect both my working station and my working laptop and changing the array dynamically, instead of three fixed monitors for the station and one for the laptop (I could change to two and two or even 4 and 0, etc). I think that even if it is complicated, at this price point and at this size, it only makes sense to have it. And the tecnology is then there for the future too.
Dude you will never get used to playing on such a big screen, it is actually a whole new experience and will feel extremely weird on games like cs or cod for example
I was actually very tempted until 2x hdmi wasn't an option. I really could use this for work. I used 3 monitors for work 2x 24 inch and a 27 inch. The 24's are on in portrait orientation. I need to be able to have my work laptop run at the same time as my personal pc.
Completely agree! At the start of this video I was already planning a room remodel to fit it in...then they point out no DisplayPort...ok, disappointing, but I can live with that. But only one HDMI input at a time!?!...hard pass. Thank you Samsung, you saved me alot of money 👍
That's what I don't get. I've got an OLD LG ultra wide from 2015? It was one of the first ultra wides they put out and that lets me do 2 hdmi (3 I think) at the same time. Its weird that this monitor cant
@@DashVandle Ngl it seems kinda overrated nowadays. With proper fps control I don't seem to get any tearing at all with or without freesync at 120-144fps. Not that I say this monitor is good either, much better to get the 32:9 screens imo and add regular screens as you go and not break your own neck by having something go waaaay to high up in the vertical.
Saw this thing in person at Microcenter yesterday. As someone who already owns a Samsung 32:9 monitor, this is *exactly* the kind of upgrade I'm looking for. It's basically 2 of my monitors stacked, without a bezel in the middle.
A point of clarification. The optimal view distance from samsung's marketing is "AT LEAST" 80cm or 31.5" , not "AT" 80cm. And they are probably being kind to space constraints of people's setups there. The curve is actually 1000R which means a 1000mm radius of the curve. That means to be equidistant from all points on the screen surface, you'd have to sit viewing it from 1000mm ~ 39.5" away. The "focal point" if the screen was a lens. That equates to about 61 PPD (pixels per degree, a measure of the perceived pixel density at distance). If you view this screen from 80cm / 31.5" away you'd only be getting 55 PPD (which is poor, 60PPD is a minimum for aggressive AA and heavily massaged text sub-sampling to start to be adequate imo), and you wouldn't be equidistant from the screen surface anymore, driving the sides of the screen more into your periphery. When you sit closer you are driving the perceived pixel density down and doing what is linked in the pictures below. The solid blue is the correct 1000mm distance for the curved screen's radius. The light blue is the human viewing angle when sitting too close. It gets pushed past the curved screen. i.imgur.com/0UhdIIr.jpg The light blue is the human viewing angle when sitting even nearer than the previous example. It pushes even more grossly past the curved screen and even past the flat screen that is farther behind it. i.imgur.com/q03mqmG.jpg Personally at 4k and 1000r (1000mm ~ 39.5") I would have preffered this at 42" size for 70 - 80 PPD. 42" bendable 4k 900R: "fixed" focal point = 35.4" view distance (900mm) = 70PPD 1000R: "fixed" focal point = 39.4" view distance (1000mm) = 77PPD 55" 4k 1000R: fixed focal point = 39.4" view distance (1000mm) = ~ 61 PPD 1000R: fixed focal point, when "zooming" the screen perspective wise by setting your sitting position past the actual 39.4" focal point of the curve and instead sitting at 80mm 31.5" view distance = ~ 55.3 PPD Sitting closer would be even worse PPD and putting more of the screen outside of your viewing angle.
@@jeffd6527 Considering they missed the mark on a bunch of things I took a pass on this iteration. I'd definitely be interested in a 48" to 55" screen like this if it hit all the marks though, maybe even in 8k in the next few years hopefully with a higher resolution FALD array/smaller fald cells (or maybe even a oled version of that if ever available). I have no problem with keeping my desk farther away from the screen around 3.5 feet screen surface to eyeballs. With a desk on caster wheels I can just roll the desk back to the screen when not in use.
@@kajurn791 probably, but technically there's no way of knowing without a proper review. Linus has gamed on many OLEDs and he said that this monitor was an incredible experience, so who knows
You can use all 4... just not at the same time on the same screen. Is the multi-view feature really that important to you? It seems much simpler and better to just put a second monitor next to it somewhere
@@AssailantLF For this price and physical real estate, this *needs* to function the exact same as multiple monitors do. Not being able to use each port individually is a show stopper for me and likely a lot of others
It makes no sense either considering it would likely be 4x 1080p signals which should be no more difficult than a single 2160p. If the G9 odyssey has taught us anything they won't let you use higher than 120hz or maybe 60 in this case when doing PBP/zones.
@@AssailantLF I assume sir that your peripheral vision is extraordinary, you must be an owl.Not to mention that for that cost, missing the basic feature is sad. But let's test it tho ;D
While I am really excited for this monitor I was really hoping it was going to have a USB-C KVM type capability built in for the money. Having your personal gaming setup and then just have a single all in one USB-C or thunderbolt cable to plug in and run a laptop from. Would just be so much cleaner. Still freaking awesome monitor though!
It uses HDMI 2.1. The box really looks like a cost cutting measure, they probably use it elsewhere as well. Designing something new would drive up the price.
I've been reading up on this ever since I found out my work 2015 MacBook Pro would only output at 1080p over HDMI vs 4K over DisplayPort or USB-C. Basically, unlike HDMI vs. DVI, which use the same signaling protocol (and can thus be mapped using passive adapters or, if you're desperate, literal breakout boards), DP goes a different way and thus requires an active adapter to convert a DP signal to HDMI. But! Evidently the "DP++" protocol is extremely common, where, if you connect your USB-C (DP-alt mode) cable into a *passive* adapter, the video card will realize what's going on and transmit an HDMI/DVI-friendly TMDS signal instead, which is what my Mac was doing when it refused to put out a 1440p signal when connected to my monitor's HDMI port. If I used an active adapter instead, it would see a DP sink connected and send over a higher-res signal, though I'm guessing that active adapter is going to introduce some lag in addition to drawing some power. Relating to this display, HDMI input only means that a large class of devices are going to face a choice of either getting limited to a low resolution or having to live with the lag introduced by the active adapter.
@@GSBarlev the minority of devices will have HDMI versions below 1.4 so no 4k but HDMI 1.4 will do 4k 30hz You just need a device with DP 1.4 and that SHOULD but not always mean you get HDMI 1.4 or 2.0 through a passive DP to HDMI cable But you cannot to my knowledge get HDMI 2.1 out of a DP port at least not until DP 2.0 is added to devices So in your case you have HDMI 1.3 or lower and your DP port has not been fitted correctly to allow HDMI 1.4 so im going to assume DP 1.3 which did not have a HDMI 1.4 passive mode But at £3500 people wont be using devices prior to HDMI 2.0 or newer generation’s of DP1.4 An active adapter is required from HDMI to DP but should not be required from DP to HDMI unless using a sucky device that only has HDMI 1.3 or older passive mode
Not ideal, but you could add a USB switcher (I've got a Ugreen one, 4xUSB and 2xUSB Out with my work and home computers on it. Hit the big button and my mouse/keyboard/headset/webcam/speakers (audio interface/etc all flip betweeen the two PC's in the morning/night. It's great.
@@watching_events447 the data for the other multiview stuff still needs to go through that cable. even if it limited additional hdmi to 1080p, it would be a huge improvement
The PiP restrictions seem to always be there. I remember being excited about my Samsung 3D TV because I figured with the refresh rates required it might have enough horsepower to handle dual inputs, but only with the TV Tuner and HDMI, not two digital inputs. Nice panel.
interesting, i have a relatively cheap sceptre ultra wide that does pip from 2 digital sources and its actually really useful for watching youtube and playing switch at the same time.
They probably use a simple multiplexer to get those 4 high spec HDMI inputs to the TV. If they had to do actual image processing on these inputs to, say, composite them together on one big screen it'd be obscenely expensive. Especially at that refresh rate and resolution. And then it'd probably add a ton of latency, too. And it's such a niche use case that it just won't pay off, especially with a monitor like this that's still more or less "reasonably" priced. That's also why there's no DP - you basically only have a single HDMI 2.1 input with a selector before that. Definitely not coming in a software update, lol.
Must be a tv limitation. I've got a 43" Samsung 32:10 ultra wide and I am able to do PIP just fine with all the display inputs, so 1x hdmi, 1x display port and 2x USB C. I use it a lot for having my ps5 and pc on the screen at the same time, pc over DP and ps5 over hdmi. I've also used it for having two separate pc screens rather than one giant one, which is where this monitor is going to be missing a trick. If you could hook two hdmi cables up and have them both appear, you could have two vertical 27" monitors stacked from a single pc which would be really useful. In its current state, it is just short of being perfect and just needs to address that problem and I also would have loved to see USB C thunderbolt ports on the one box for hot-desking. Its weird because this is so geared towards pc use but the features are all restricted by TV things. The one box having all hdmi only for example.
maybe due to the source quality and they haven't figure out optimal way at launch, since im using Samsung G7 and PiP mode is fine with pc and xbox/ps5 at same time
@@Agriwulfz 1) no it's not, making something like this isn't practical in any way 2) why would you spend the money and build all of that if it's impractical and outrageously dumb? isn't that a weird way to look at life? do something just because you can, american thinking man
It's been literal years since I've seen something so bizarre that actually fits my video editing workflow so perfectly. It's the small things about this monitor that make it feel like a real tool that I need for my workflow, instead of just a bizarre concept: 1. The way the stand is built to bring the monitor up several feet in order to allow it to go vertical. I ALWAYS struggle with NONE of the monitor stands on the market being tall enough to put the monitor over my 16" laptop I place under it. and this does that, and goes beyond. Heck, that stand goes high enough to put that monitor over my laptop AND another 24"-27" monitor. That's incredible. 2. The way it can "shrink" down to become a smaller monitor if needed, just in case 55" is too overwhelming (which I can see occasionally happening for certain tasks with me). 3. The Samsung smart box that channels all the outputs/inputs into something organized on my desk instead of all the cables cluttering up behind the monitor. 4. The Fact that it can actually turn vertical to be treated like 3 FREAKING 27" stacked screens (27" is the perfect screen size for me). 5. Oh and that "cockpit mode" is what's really speaking to me since I've always wanted a couple 27" monitors stacked on top of each other. I prefer my monitors on top of each other instead of side by side. I genuinely have no clue on the face of this planet how I'm going to come up with $3,500 for a monitor, but I have to. This reaches past absurd and "concept-y" and steps right into the "I actually need this, this is a masterpiece and would change my life" territory. And I very seldom see that kind of thing out of these CES products. I'm praying they can eventually get this down closer to $2,500, I might be able to make that work. But I actually need this in my life.
They have a financing option available. $74 for 48 months, probably more with tax and a protection plan or whatever, but if it's a business expense- it's a lot more manageable.
I got it financed, I did have to call TD and request a limit increase from the $3200 I was initially approved for up to $3700. I purchased a guitar this way years ago, no big deal. The guitar cost me 0% interest this will also be 0% interest. Just gotta stay up on the payments.
yes, i was already dreaming of playing something on ps5 on work break while i watch youtube on the top part of the screen and have my work chat on the middle in case something comes up
I would imagine depending on the hardware of their input unit they may need to swap out the box to allow for multiple simultaneous HDMI inputs at once. Considering the size of the monitor and support for multiple screens at once it seems like a missed opportunity. Clearly price isn't a consideration at that point
Agreed, there probably isn't an SoC powerful enough to do it right now and even at this price it might not be enough to warrant making a custom SoC specific to this monitor. Having the box external does at least mean it can be improved later.
As a platform/systems engineer, that stacks two ultrawide monitors on top of each other, I can definitely see myself using a monitor like that for systems monitoring.
because the $600 dollars for the ambulance ride wasnt already bad enough? some of us live in america where we already pay through the nose for healthcare. quit giving them more excuses to gouge me.
"What are you gonna go with ONE of them? You might as well get 3." That's the most valid point I've ever heard. Let's see a triple monitor setup with these things and play some racing games on it
I remember the days when I was sitting at home with my 15 inch CRT and I played Tomb Raider 1 on it... This monitor is just science fiction to my 15 year old self... A dream come true.
HOLY $H!T indeed! I would actually be down for daily driving something like this. Even more so with the multiview with 2+ hdmi inputs. The price isn't actually that wild for a seemingly very well put together piece of hardware. Was easily expecting this to be 5-10k USD.
I mean the price is not necessarily a scam because it's gotta be hard to make these monitors, but i still think its unnecessary to spend this much on a monitor
@@inforced for an average monitor yeah you don't need to, this is more or a luxury option to fit very specific builds, like me and my fiance would he interested in this for our own little theatre set up
I was so sure when you said "I sure wanna experience it" that you were gonna continue with "and I sure want you to experience this segue to our sponsor"
$3500? I was expecting more. That is actually in the realm of reasonable. It replaces (in theory) 3 $1000 monitors. I was expecting more towards $7000 to $10000
It's terrible value actually. It was okay if it was QD OLED but it isn't. Odyssey NEO G9 have dropped in price, and this is basically two of those, with lower refresh, 1/4th the dimming zones, lower resolution and no DP ports. Was really hyped for it to replace my G9 but the low ppi is very disappointing.
From my 15 years of IT repair, i can say that the limitation is actually comes from "all in one" cable connected to tv. Its probably doesnt have enough throughput.
Could offload the image combining into the AIO box but yeah the AIO box is amazing as plugging in HDMi's to my G9 is a bitch, I could only imagine the pain in that. Although the trade off of a single HDMI PBP mode is the put off from me.
The One Connect or whatever the name is should have 75GB bandwidth. So while it doesn't match the bandwidth of multiple HDMI 2.1 connections, it should have enough bandwidth for multiple 1080p and even 1440p screens at 120hz. Also, all the "magic" happens in the box. I think the monitor itself doesn't really have to worry about the HDMI inputs, just the One Connect output.
I would gladly pay $2200 for a really good quality mini led (thousands of zones) matte anti glare 4K approx 42 inch screen! 40-44 inches is the perfect size for writing software with 3 tall windows of decent size font showing about 500 lines of code and a little screen real estate left over for debug & other stuff. But all the monitors on the market today in this size are cheaply made with glossy reflective finish.
@@PaulStoffregen honestly after more than a decade developing, how you put your monitors for coding is as personalised as what wallpapers you use on your phone.
@@PaulStoffregen Also 240Hz like the NEO G8 so the motion performance is as close as possible to an OLED as a 4K LCD screen Edit: And add a displayport too for the ultimate racing sim rigs
For the price I was really expecting to have multiple inputs on at the same time, I have a 32" msi optix with kvm built in and having my laptop and desktop on with PiP has been incredibly useful when multi tasking, this seems like an oversight
I bet it's a hardware limitation with the I/O box. If this really is just a TV in essence, it might only have the ability to process a single hdmi source at any given time. It's a limitation with basically many TVs.
As someone who uses a TV as my main monitor I approve of this. Although I would just get a TV for a fraction of the price, but still this is really cool and I could definitely see someone who does not care about price getting this monstrosity.
computers and internet primarily use white and black. which are both unnatural. and often flip between the two which can cause nerve damage over time. bigger monitor accelerates this
I think the biggest eye candy of this over a TV is the curve itself. Thats a massive curve and a 4k neo led with 1000+ dimming zones the tv is worth that price almost without the curve.
the fact you can split up the screen and chance the sizes is whats most appealing to me. if i want to get in some pro gaming i can shrink it to 24 in or whatever
If it could do 4x1080p inputs, I'd put in the order today. Even virtual displays; telling the computer that there are 3 2160x1280 monitors attached when vertical would be useful.
You do need 3! Need to mount it to the SIM rig you guys built. Triple set up for sim racing would be the only practical need for these. It would be incredible
Love Alex's logic, "Why would you get 1 of them in the first place? Might as well get three." I kind of agree with him, just a whole circle of Arcs. Wonder how big that would be, probably would need looks like 8 to do so. Looking at that radius. 3500 USD, that's weirdly not that bad.
In 1992 (ish) I spent $3,500 CAD on a 33MHz 486DX desktop, with a 120MB HDD and 4MB of RAM and a 14" monitor. All running MS DOS 5.0. It haunts me to this day.
Being that I was planning on a triple monitor setup that would easily cost close to $3500... If this goes on sale for $2500 it's an instant buy. The only downside is paying for speakers that I won't be using (Def-tech BP7000SC/BP7001SC/CLR3000 system as a theatre/computer setup). But Yeah, $3500 for this is a LOT less than I was expecting.
"Samsung demands you have a friend"
... there's always a catch
Oh My God, it's the one and only CreepsMcPasta. Love your content.
There always is with the eldritch lords
What are friends? 🤣
With that price tag, i am sure you can pay a "friend" to help you. 😉
My New Monitor Required a Friend to Set Up. I Didn't Have One. So They Sent me .... Something to Help
Alex is right. We need a completely unpractical eyefinity setup with this. Imagine something like elite dangerous with that setup.
Or a sim racing game. Damn that'd be so cool
Its gotta happen lmao
@@-Jester Heck yes!
mario kart double dash
first games to come to mind were ED and sim racing
I love Alex. Linus: Holy cow, that’s BIG! Alex: Awesome, let’s get 3!
exactly :D Alex is the best!
Yeah, it was like a role reversal. Usually Linus is the one to push the boundaries.
He rules
I just read this comment right at the moment where he said that
"What would you do with them?" "Turn them all vertical and side by side and have all the views"
I know they got it for free, but I was still on the edge of my seat, praying Linus would not drop it or push it over.
Correction you said not. Think you meant to leave that out
"The stand could kill someone, assuming you could wield it"
_it was much too big to be called a stand. Indeed, it was too broad, too rough. It was more like a hunk of raw iron_
Berserk reference.
The stand is cousins with the dragonslayer
the monitor is a stand user
is this a motherf***** Berserk reference? Go up!
@@beegbraining nah
I totally agree with Alex... Why DON'T you get three of them ? :D
agreed
I have 3 Samsung Odyssey Neo G8's 🙂 Kind of close lol
Why not get a whole wrap-around experience? 360 FOV in games 😂
coz linus isnt as dumb....i hope
Yes please do it!
"Samsung demands for you to have a friend to set up the monitor" clearly Samsung doesn't understand gamers
Ye we have no friends :(
Just get your dad from upstairs. ;-)
Guess there are two groups, gamers with friends and those that don't....
Lol.
@@JorgenKremer he went to get milk
I lost interest in the monitor/tv at exactly 17:56. You can't use a duel PC setup with this monitor. What's the point then?
LTT should get 10 of this, make a full circle of monitors for the ultimate gaming experience
Imagine a racing or flight sim with that setup lol
Seems like 6 would be enough for a full circle 😂
Somebody said 3.6 in another comment.
@@PhobosDDeimos Actually it would only take 5! At 55" diagonal that gives a curve width of 121.8cm. The circumference of a 1000R (200cm) circle is 628.3cm (pi*200), and 628.3/121.8 = 5.15 monitors. That doesn't include bezels so it would be pretty close, and it would be a nice odd number for surround!
@Phobos&Deimos How about we actually calculate how many it would take to make a full circle, since this is a 1000R display (meaning if a circle was made, it would have a radius of 1000 mm, or 1 m) the circumference of that circle (2πr) would be about 6.283 m, looking up the dimensions of the ark, it seems that it's 114.76 cm wide, (or 1.1476 m wide) dividing the circumference by the width would get us a result of 5.47, so we would need about 5 and a half ark monitors horizontally to fully complete a circle, this got me interested in to seeing how many in vertical mode would be required to complete it, the monitor's height is 537.2 cm, doing the same thing we've done before would yield us a result of about 11.7, all of this, however, depends on wether or not the measurements factor in the bezels, so it's pretty fair to assume that it would require 6 arks horizontally, or 12 arks vertically to complete a circle.
I really want to see a 3x1 setup with this monitor.
I have a Triple Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 setup 🙂 Baby version lol
3 of these in vertical would be the perfect flight simulator
so does alex
@@GitDatPC How have you been liking the Neo? I have one on backorder so gotta wait like 2 weeks for it.
@@nickh8649 The Neo G8 is awesome 🙂 I know Samsung has been having some QC complaints but I got 3 good ones. I've got Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered running on triple 4K 😁 My latest video posted
Imagine playing a horror game on this. Every jumpscare would be a life sized face jumping at you.
You need to try Half-Life Alyx in VR :-)
you could also buy the best vr system out right now for a third of the price and have actual life sized things jumping at you
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I couldn't even finish Black Mesa. Half Life Alyx would actually kill me
fnaf would be crazy
"That's the old passage to Ravenholm. We don't go there anymore."
"Let's roll that intro" said with the most soothing tone linus has ever produced 0:52
"Don't challenge me if you don't want me to follow through." This guy is awesome. We need more CRT man on the channel!
he has a name!!! XD
He’s pretty meh imo… nothing against the guy but I’d rather get more Anthony/Sarah content, those are the MVPs
"I could do it, I have CRTS!"
I miss the simple " cheaper " days of being a PC nerd. remember when we struggled to justify spending $500 on a GPU? and that was the Halo card!
Todays latest and greatest at 80's pricing!
I recently listened in on a discussion regarding how Monitors are usually the afterthought of the gaming setup. Even with all the PC bottlenecks accounted for, people neglect to spend an equivalent amount on monitors to match.
This is the counter to that scenario.
No, it barely fits on counter.
@@MisterBunbao that's why they said it was the counter of that scenario.
The classic $2000 GPU to power a $200 monitor.
Would love a triple Odyssey Ark setup for sim racing but I don't think GPU capability will get there until maybe 3 generations. Why do I have to be limited by the technology of my time 😢
Sadly the 80ppi makes this like having 4 1080p monitors. BLAH. The 42" LG c2 is a much better option for $1300
Bless the editor that had to add the blur to the account info during majority of the demo lol
Yoo toast
@@Kitt-gk8gq yoo Kitt 2008
You can see it at 10:11
you literally just drag a square and it tracks the blur area as long as it's visible
Oh shit it's toast. Haven't seen your channel in years man. You were one of the guys that got me into beatbox years back. Great to see you're still online
Thanks!
Great so now not only do I need more money than I have to buy the monitor, I’m also expected to have a friend. These requirements get more and more difficult.
computers and internet primarily use white and black. which are both unnatural. and often flip between the two which can cause nerve damage over time. bigger monitor accelerates this
@@mikelisteral7863 to be fair, if you can afford this monitor, you can probably afford to replace it every life cycle.
as well as a desk that can handle the weight!
@@javiervazquez9472 why is that?
@@mikelisteral7863 Cant find anything about it so I guess its bullshit. Bilions people work with monitors and some of them works even 8h a day for 3 decades and they are all fine. Also in theory they dont disolay white but rgb
Today I learn: Linus Sebastien is the official measurement tool for monitor sizing. Makes me a little uncomfortable asking for something "in a half-Linus size."
@@HR91360 Wouldn't be the first time someone was used as a measuring tool. Check out the Smoot: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot
Linus the tiny-us
Linus for scale.
I bet the Half-Linus game releases before Half-Life 3.
Anything to avoid using metric system? 😂
Ok, I'm not gonna lie, out of all the outrageous stuff I usually see when I pull LTT up... This is ACTUALLY something I'd like to own. If for nothing more than being able to use 1 screen as 3.
The thing is, you can't, because it only accepts one HDMI input at a time. So it's still just like using one big screen.
Look into the dell P4317Q if you need multiple screens for work/productivity but not gaming, as it gives you 4 new screens in one monitor. I’ve got both that and an oddesy G9 (the older version of the ark), I find the dell way better for work (I work in finance) while the G9 is just a little less user friendly so I keep that for gaming once in a blue moon.
the g9 does the job you want not this
@@Eagle3302PL I mean, I feel like this is something they can address with a firmware update
Just get an ultrawide, this thing is pointless
This is on sale at Microcenter for $1,999. Its amazing, if it went down to $1499 I would think about buying one.
maybe you should
1500 @ BH right now
@@kirrasdad looks like that’s the 1st GEN now for $1,900. There’s also a 2nd GEN for $2,300
@@kirrasdadwatching this video one g9 or 🥹
just ordered the gen 2 for 1800, got the Samsung care 2 year for the extra 200$, why not. Super excited been using the same 27in acer monitor since i built my PC in 2015
you can sense how nervous the camera man gets when linus picks things up, i feel you buddie.
I can't... their stabilization job is great
How about when David just picked the entire thing up himself while verticle.
he knows that if linus drops it, he has one shot to get it on camera
We need a video of a gaming setup with OVERSIZED peripherals! The oversized keyboard would be a good match for this monitored
Go figure I just saw a keyboard with 200% bigger keys than normal on Amazon today. Didn't even think that would exist as a non-joke item...
@@alka1ine Redragon K605 Alien Giant
Omni directional treadmill as the mouse?
i gotchu
Oh my god this would be brilliant
You know it's serious when Linus himself afraid to drop it
Ok but if it fell on him it would probably kill him lol
This unboxing was more comical than descriptive. Hilarious proportions and genuine reactions from Linus. Hilarious lol
As someone who has tested many multiple monitor layouts, I can say with certainty that a vertical setup like this results in waking up to terrible persistent neck pain.
Permanent body pain is no joke. Trust me.
unless you modify your desk so the monitor sits way below your keyboard and your head is in front of the middle of the screen. Then you could look down or up to see the lower or the upper third.
Yup, your neck should never bend up for ergonomics
@@michaelrichter2528 Yeah, something like the desk Wendell from Level1Techs built awhile back would be ideal for this. He used seperate panels in that one, but I think it could work here.
we need gimball chairs that level when ever we move our neck!
"Why would you need one of them? You might as well get three!" That absolutely killed me lol.
The fact at 6:35 the whole countertop moved when he placed down the monitor, goes to show how heavy the monitor really is.
computers and internet primarily use white and black. which are both unnatural. and often flip between the two which can cause nerve damage over time. bigger monitor accelerates this
@@ilovefunnyamv2nd eye damage
@@mikelisteral7863 just makes no sense to mention this when the guys talking it’s weight, not staring into a void of bright white light
I agree that it's heavy, but to my knowledge both this counter and the table in the PC build corner are mounted on electric standing desk legs that move up and down. I get why they did that for shooting/production purposes, but I've always seen those benches move around even with light things on them in other videos lol
I think what shows it even more is the specs on samsungs website. 41.5kg :D
I can’t wait to buy this 😍 been on my list for months!
See this is perfect. Thank you Samsung! Now when my wife objects to me wanting an Odyssey G9 I can say, "Well, I think $1,200 is a steal compared to the $3,500 Ark I _could_ buy."
Meh if you're wanting to spend 1k might as well spend a little extra for this
I got my ark in yesterday and need to sell my G9 if your interested. $1000 not even a year old and i have a 3 year warranty for it also.
@@roberthughes8912 Did they say if a software update could add multiple hdmi inputs?
@@Snoop_Dugg not to my knowledge
@@Juan-dc6yf that’s not a little extra. That’s adding 2 grand…
I suspect that the reason it doesn't support 2 simultaneous HDMI views at once goes back to the OneConnect box -- That box probably has an HDMI switch inside as opposed to transmitting 4 separate HDMI 2.1 links to the monitor that the monitor switches between. If that's the case, then there's only one HDMI link from the OneConnect box to the monitor, so no firmware update would be able to address that. That would also make it far less surprising that it has 4 HDMI 2.1 ports on the OneConnect box.
That and Tizen OS makes it a direct no for me. It is basically a TV with an OS that’ll drive you mad. ADS on your monitor directly? Are you for real? The moment Linus said that I was like… okay I’ll never be getting that one then. To bad. Because it looks awesome.
That's correct the OneConnect works as a switch as you said so a firmware update wouldn't fix it but at the price point of $3500 if samsung wanted they can modify the OneConnect for it, if they actually do an offical release. And since its a gaming monitor they have got to add dp ports
Th box is the brain, it processes everything. The link cable is a link cable with the LVDHS signals + power on it
Why would only one port have hdmi earc or whatever on it?
@@TheCustomFHD ??? What
Honestly $3,500 is a lot less than I expected. If it goes on sale to like $2,500 I could actually see that being a pretty good buy.
I am sure it will drop to around 2500 in less than six months.
same thought here.
if apple sold this it'll be $2000 with a $1500 stand option
@@mhf0gamer you need to double those prices.
@wei have had a chg, crg, and g9 odyssey I've never had a single problem with any of then each owned about a year trading up. Best monitors I've had I have no idea about their low end monitors though
100% agree with Alex - we need 3 of them side by side, who needs a sound dome, when you can have the monitor dome - imagine that on a driving sim.
First
Yes it would be good on driving games. : O
Linus: "So 80 cm is the optimal distance, let me see. WOW it looks amazing!"
Me: "PUT THE FREAKING CAMERA IN THAT SPOT SO WE CAN SEE IT TOO!!!! DAMN U"
You probably wouldn't get a 100% accurate view anyways, what with lenses being at certain aspect ratios / apertures / etc.
noo we will never see that :(
unless we buy that :)
I wish Jake would try this on a sim racing rig setup, I'd love to hear his take on this.
That is the coolest monitor I’ve ever seen. I have 3 27 inch monitors mounted on my desktop. I think that could easily, replace my set up
The second generation of this with multiple simultaneously usable hdmi ports and display ports would be great
Yeah once I realized I would love this mainly for split screen and then learned only one of them can be an HDMI source, that kind of killed it for me.
@@kusucks991 there might be janky software solutions, but at this price point, it should be supported at a hardware level imo.
@@cem_kaya I m cancelling my order, How Samsung's engineers didn't anticipate this fonction, are they living in a bubble
Should just come with this function, so silly it doesn't!
On unbox therapy channel, they show that works With the pict in pict function and you can choose the sound from one of the hdmi
I need an aggressively curved 55" monitor. Exactly what I have been looking for. But wow that price! And the lack of multi-HDMI is a deal breaker. For me the whole point is to plug in two different computers to split the four screens.
"And the lack of multi-HDMI is a deal breaker. For me the whole point is to plug in two different computers to split the four screens." You know you can use any 55" TV, right? 🤦🏿♀
And seamless KVM switching but between hardware that wouldn't necessarily support a software solution.
The Odyssey Neo G9 can exactly do that multisourcing. The Ark seems to be more on the TV/console side.
I thought Sammy had a curved 55er TV. Probably wouldn't have the refresh rate or tight curve but who would know besides you?
price, yeah pretty cheap for what you get!
Hmmm….. imagine a 360 degree dome rig made out of these displays
That lowers down like Darth Vaders meditation chamber.
Would be an epic driving/flying simulator setup
Alternatively, VR.
Just get a vario headset
If it's an actual dome, yeah, that would be sick
1000R
you'd need 3.6 display😬
@@rev_dude can’t believe I’d see the day that VR becomes the cheaper alternative
If it supported multiple HDMI inputs at the same time I would have definitely been interested in this instead of 3 separate screens.
My guess is that managing variable sync/frame rates from multiple sources was too much of a headache. Definitely solvable in theory but probably got tossed into the too-hard basket.
@@glittalogik Doesn't the Neo G9 have that capability tho? Weird that they can do it on that monitor but not this one. It's a shame too because I love all the screen real estate. But not having picture in picture just really makes it a lot worse in comparison to say 1 Neo G9 or even two with the ability to have multiple sources on the same screen.
Same. As of right now, it cost $2000 and if I could get various sources, I would be definitively request this installed in my working office, because then I could connect both my working station and my working laptop and changing the array dynamically, instead of three fixed monitors for the station and one for the laptop (I could change to two and two or even 4 and 0, etc).
I think that even if it is complicated, at this price point and at this size, it only makes sense to have it. And the tecnology is then there for the future too.
Dude you will never get used to playing on such a big screen, it is actually a whole new experience and will feel extremely weird on games like cs or cod for example
55 is tiny even that close
He’s getting extremely creative with his sponsors
That's awesome man! Great presentation!
No he is not.
Great man!!
I’m gonna be impressed when he gets sponsored by the Amish
How so? Samsung has sponsored before
I was actually very tempted until 2x hdmi wasn't an option. I really could use this for work. I used 3 monitors for work 2x 24 inch and a 27 inch. The 24's are on in portrait orientation. I need to be able to have my work laptop run at the same time as my personal pc.
Completely agree! At the start of this video I was already planning a room remodel to fit it in...then they point out no DisplayPort...ok, disappointing, but I can live with that. But only one HDMI input at a time!?!...hard pass. Thank you Samsung, you saved me alot of money 👍
Also they ruined it for gaming with no G-Sync, Freesync premium only goes to 120fps on a 165Hz monitor, WTF were they thinking?
That's what I don't get. I've got an OLD LG ultra wide from 2015? It was one of the first ultra wides they put out and that lets me do 2 hdmi (3 I think) at the same time. Its weird that this monitor cant
@@DashVandle lol only 8ms frame times and you wanted 6ms... lol. Lets see you do an a/b test of 120Hz vs 165Hz.
@@DashVandle Ngl it seems kinda overrated nowadays. With proper fps control I don't seem to get any tearing at all with or without freesync at 120-144fps.
Not that I say this monitor is good either, much better to get the 32:9 screens imo and add regular screens as you go and not break your own neck by having something go waaaay to high up in the vertical.
Why settle with the "sound dome"
When you can put multiple of those bad boys together and create the "sound circle" ?
It's gonna be like 360 vision Gundam cockpit.
You mean sphere
Double stack it too
Saw this thing in person at Microcenter yesterday. As someone who already owns a Samsung 32:9 monitor, this is *exactly* the kind of upgrade I'm looking for. It's basically 2 of my monitors stacked, without a bezel in the middle.
My man 🤝
A point of clarification. The optimal view distance from samsung's marketing is "AT LEAST" 80cm or 31.5" , not "AT" 80cm. And they are probably being kind to space constraints of people's setups there. The curve is actually 1000R which means a 1000mm radius of the curve. That means to be equidistant from all points on the screen surface, you'd have to sit viewing it from 1000mm ~ 39.5" away. The "focal point" if the screen was a lens. That equates to about 61 PPD (pixels per degree, a measure of the perceived pixel density at distance). If you view this screen from 80cm / 31.5" away you'd only be getting 55 PPD (which is poor, 60PPD is a minimum for aggressive AA and heavily massaged text sub-sampling to start to be adequate imo), and you wouldn't be equidistant from the screen surface anymore, driving the sides of the screen more into your periphery.
When you sit closer you are driving the perceived pixel density down and doing what is linked in the pictures below. The solid blue is the correct 1000mm distance for the curved screen's radius.
The light blue is the human viewing angle when sitting too close. It gets pushed past the curved screen. i.imgur.com/0UhdIIr.jpg
The light blue is the human viewing angle when sitting even nearer than the previous example. It pushes even more grossly past the curved screen and even past the flat screen that is farther behind it. i.imgur.com/q03mqmG.jpg
Personally at 4k and 1000r (1000mm ~ 39.5") I would have preffered this at 42" size for 70 - 80 PPD.
42" bendable 4k
900R: "fixed" focal point = 35.4" view distance (900mm) = 70PPD
1000R: "fixed" focal point = 39.4" view distance (1000mm) = 77PPD
55" 4k
1000R: fixed focal point = 39.4" view distance (1000mm) = ~ 61 PPD
1000R: fixed focal point, when "zooming" the screen perspective wise by setting your sitting position past the actual 39.4" focal point of the curve and instead sitting at 80mm 31.5" view distance = ~ 55.3 PPD
Sitting closer would be even worse PPD and putting more of the screen outside of your viewing angle.
ok nasa
Ok
go easy on the meth... i mean math.. and thank you :)
I've been looking at this with a standard gaming desk in mind...size is completely impractical. Maybe for simulator type setups it would be great.
@@jeffd6527 Considering they missed the mark on a bunch of things I took a pass on this iteration. I'd definitely be interested in a 48" to 55" screen like this if it hit all the marks though, maybe even in 8k in the next few years hopefully with a higher resolution FALD array/smaller fald cells (or maybe even a oled version of that if ever available). I have no problem with keeping my desk farther away from the screen around 3.5 feet screen surface to eyeballs. With a desk on caster wheels I can just roll the desk back to the screen when not in use.
LTT Home Theatre videos Ft. Jake sitting on a reclining chair while Linus does the hard work
6:47 The reflection transition from peel to no peel is incredible 👌
Including the open mouth Denis in the reflection lol
In a few years once multi-HDMI support is available and the price comes down I would absolutely buy one of these over a regular multimonitor setup.
Multi-HDMI is available for years, but not for +60hz monitors.
If its 110 inch
Just wait for like 2 g more gens then buy the 2nd gen oddesey ark
16:35 "hey look it's linus actual size"
let's not get ahead of ourselves linus, that's more like 3x the actual size
If I had the budget I would already be on my way to order this. This display seems to be great!
They didnt review it through. Hardware unboxed might get one.
lol. no.
@@Djuntas exactly - need to see the actual performance of it before upgrading from my 48" C1
@@MikeDawson1 This would be a downgrade from an OLED. Don't even bother.
@@kajurn791 probably, but technically there's no way of knowing without a proper review. Linus has gamed on many OLEDs and he said that this monitor was an incredible experience, so who knows
"Don't challenge me if you're not gonna let me follow through" I love David lol
Tech is coming so far that even our monitors are basically computers now and that’s insane
no
@@deporter13 yes
I was totally sold on this until 17:37 .... Not being able to use all 4 HDMIs is literally a deal breaker. I'm better off buying multiple monitors.
You can use all 4... just not at the same time on the same screen. Is the multi-view feature really that important to you? It seems much simpler and better to just put a second monitor next to it somewhere
@@AssailantLF For this price and physical real estate, this *needs* to function the exact same as multiple monitors do. Not being able to use each port individually is a show stopper for me and likely a lot of others
It makes no sense either considering it would likely be 4x 1080p signals which should be no more difficult than a single 2160p. If the G9 odyssey has taught us anything they won't let you use higher than 120hz or maybe 60 in this case when doing PBP/zones.
This. Or even just two and run Barrier/Synergy on several PCs and have them all in one monitor without having to switch inputs. Perf.
@@AssailantLF I assume sir that your peripheral vision is extraordinary, you must be an owl.Not to mention that for that cost, missing the basic feature is sad. But let's test it tho ;D
13:45 🤩the streets of Kyoto look AMAZING on this massive display 🤩
Was I actually kind of right, dude? Ha ha!
You’ll be the biggest Japan walking channel yet!
That thing in portrait mode would be killer for vertical scrolling arcade shooters.
Guitar Hero anyone...
@@csl750 that would be insane, it would make the actual guitar hero arcade machines look shit 😂
Raiden II would be nice on that $3500 ....
playing tetris with the vertical space in this LETS GOO
I watched this when it was released a while back. Finally pulled the trigger on it
While I am really excited for this monitor I was really hoping it was going to have a USB-C KVM type capability built in for the money. Having your personal gaming setup and then just have a single all in one USB-C or thunderbolt cable to plug in and run a laptop from. Would just be so much cleaner. Still freaking awesome monitor though!
It uses HDMI 2.1. The box really looks like a cost cutting measure, they probably use it elsewhere as well. Designing something new would drive up the price.
Wont happen even the upcoming Type-C 240w is not even 1/4th the required power
I've been reading up on this ever since I found out my work 2015 MacBook Pro would only output at 1080p over HDMI vs 4K over DisplayPort or USB-C.
Basically, unlike HDMI vs. DVI, which use the same signaling protocol (and can thus be mapped using passive adapters or, if you're desperate, literal breakout boards), DP goes a different way and thus requires an active adapter to convert a DP signal to HDMI.
But! Evidently the "DP++" protocol is extremely common, where, if you connect your USB-C (DP-alt mode) cable into a *passive* adapter, the video card will realize what's going on and transmit an HDMI/DVI-friendly TMDS signal instead, which is what my Mac was doing when it refused to put out a 1440p signal when connected to my monitor's HDMI port. If I used an active adapter instead, it would see a DP sink connected and send over a higher-res signal, though I'm guessing that active adapter is going to introduce some lag in addition to drawing some power.
Relating to this display, HDMI input only means that a large class of devices are going to face a choice of either getting limited to a low resolution or having to live with the lag introduced by the active adapter.
@@GSBarlev the minority of devices will have HDMI versions below 1.4 so no 4k but HDMI 1.4 will do 4k 30hz
You just need a device with DP 1.4 and that SHOULD but not always mean you get HDMI 1.4 or 2.0 through a passive DP to HDMI cable
But you cannot to my knowledge get HDMI 2.1 out of a DP port at least not until DP 2.0 is added to devices
So in your case you have HDMI 1.3 or lower and your DP port has not been fitted correctly to allow HDMI 1.4 so im going to assume DP 1.3 which did not have a HDMI 1.4 passive mode
But at £3500 people wont be using devices prior to HDMI 2.0 or newer generation’s of DP1.4
An active adapter is required from HDMI to DP but should not be required from DP to HDMI unless using a sucky device that only has HDMI 1.3 or older passive mode
Not ideal, but you could add a USB switcher (I've got a Ugreen one, 4xUSB and 2xUSB Out with my work and home computers on it. Hit the big button and my mouse/keyboard/headset/webcam/speakers (audio interface/etc all flip betweeen the two PC's in the morning/night. It's great.
They need to allow it to have 2 or more HDMI inputs in multiview mode.
All four would be preferred.
Might be SoC limitation.
someday we might see someone hacking the feature to it.
@@KarrasBastomi bandwidrh on that cable link between the box and the monitor?
@@watching_events447 4x1080p == 4k
@@watching_events447 the data for the other multiview stuff still needs to go through that cable. even if it limited additional hdmi to 1080p, it would be a huge improvement
The PiP restrictions seem to always be there. I remember being excited about my Samsung 3D TV because I figured with the refresh rates required it might have enough horsepower to handle dual inputs, but only with the TV Tuner and HDMI, not two digital inputs.
Nice panel.
interesting, i have a relatively cheap sceptre ultra wide that does pip from 2 digital sources and its actually really useful for watching youtube and playing switch at the same time.
They probably use a simple multiplexer to get those 4 high spec HDMI inputs to the TV. If they had to do actual image processing on these inputs to, say, composite them together on one big screen it'd be obscenely expensive. Especially at that refresh rate and resolution. And then it'd probably add a ton of latency, too. And it's such a niche use case that it just won't pay off, especially with a monitor like this that's still more or less "reasonably" priced.
That's also why there's no DP - you basically only have a single HDMI 2.1 input with a selector before that. Definitely not coming in a software update, lol.
Must be a tv limitation. I've got a 43" Samsung 32:10 ultra wide and I am able to do PIP just fine with all the display inputs, so 1x hdmi, 1x display port and 2x USB C. I use it a lot for having my ps5 and pc on the screen at the same time, pc over DP and ps5 over hdmi. I've also used it for having two separate pc screens rather than one giant one, which is where this monitor is going to be missing a trick. If you could hook two hdmi cables up and have them both appear, you could have two vertical 27" monitors stacked from a single pc which would be really useful. In its current state, it is just short of being perfect and just needs to address that problem and I also would have loved to see USB C thunderbolt ports on the one box for hot-desking. Its weird because this is so geared towards pc use but the features are all restricted by TV things. The one box having all hdmi only for example.
maybe due to the source quality and they haven't figure out optimal way at launch, since im using Samsung G7 and PiP mode is fine with pc and xbox/ps5 at same time
Funny thing is that there are CRT TVs from the early 2000s that support PiP from dual inputs, standart definition quality, but still PiP
I would love to see a gaming setup with a bunch of these forming a perfect huge circle!!!!!!!!!!
why would anyone need more than 1
Uhm... 2 reasons. 1.) Fun. And 2.) Because you can
@@Agriwulfz 1) no it's not, making something like this isn't practical in any way 2) why would you spend the money and build all of that if it's impractical and outrageously dumb? isn't that a weird way to look at life? do something just because you can, american thinking man
@@asagishin8531okay Debbie downer
I don't think the guy's are ready for that setup lol you probably need more than 1 gpu based on i/o alone
It's been literal years since I've seen something so bizarre that actually fits my video editing workflow so perfectly. It's the small things about this monitor that make it feel like a real tool that I need for my workflow, instead of just a bizarre concept:
1. The way the stand is built to bring the monitor up several feet in order to allow it to go vertical. I ALWAYS struggle with NONE of the monitor stands on the market being tall enough to put the monitor over my 16" laptop I place under it. and this does that, and goes beyond. Heck, that stand goes high enough to put that monitor over my laptop AND another 24"-27" monitor. That's incredible.
2. The way it can "shrink" down to become a smaller monitor if needed, just in case 55" is too overwhelming (which I can see occasionally happening for certain tasks with me).
3. The Samsung smart box that channels all the outputs/inputs into something organized on my desk instead of all the cables cluttering up behind the monitor.
4. The Fact that it can actually turn vertical to be treated like 3 FREAKING 27" stacked screens (27" is the perfect screen size for me).
5. Oh and that "cockpit mode" is what's really speaking to me since I've always wanted a couple 27" monitors stacked on top of each other. I prefer my monitors on top of each other instead of side by side.
I genuinely have no clue on the face of this planet how I'm going to come up with $3,500 for a monitor, but I have to. This reaches past absurd and "concept-y" and steps right into the "I actually need this, this is a masterpiece and would change my life" territory. And I very seldom see that kind of thing out of these CES products. I'm praying they can eventually get this down closer to $2,500, I might be able to make that work. But I actually need this in my life.
They have a financing option available. $74 for 48 months, probably more with tax and a protection plan or whatever, but if it's a business expense- it's a lot more manageable.
I got it financed, I did have to call TD and request a limit increase from the $3200 I was initially approved for up to $3700. I purchased a guitar this way years ago, no big deal. The guitar cost me 0% interest this will also be 0% interest. Just gotta stay up on the payments.
But only supports 1 hdmi signal… unless u want integrated apps 👎
With three of them you can get an immersive cockpit experience for the sim rig you guys built a few months ago.
Yes needs to support multi display via hdmi.
Was totally sold on it UNTIL that was mentioned.
yes, i was already dreaming of playing something on ps5 on work break while i watch youtube on the top part of the screen and have my work chat on the middle in case something comes up
Truth. PIP is useless when you can only select 1 HDMI source. No one uses their TV's/monitors that way.
np, they can probabily do it just in software
Can someone Update if it is possible in Future?
@@vaisakh_km No i think it's because of the one cable thing, probably not enough banwith to go with 2 hdmi at the same time
I saw one on demo at Microcenter. It really is a sight to behold.
"The heaviest. The most curved... gaming monitor ever made"
Bruh you literally have an FW900 and an Ostendo. I've seen them with my own eyes
I would imagine depending on the hardware of their input unit they may need to swap out the box to allow for multiple simultaneous HDMI inputs at once. Considering the size of the monitor and support for multiple screens at once it seems like a missed opportunity. Clearly price isn't a consideration at that point
Agreed, there probably isn't an SoC powerful enough to do it right now and even at this price it might not be enough to warrant making a custom SoC specific to this monitor. Having the box external does at least mean it can be improved later.
Samsung has always been my go to for TV's , monitors, and phones. They dominate when it comes to quality screens
As a platform/systems engineer, that stacks two ultrawide monitors on top of each other, I can definitely see myself using a monitor like that for systems monitoring.
that was my first thought - system engineers could benefit from that. So much space for Grafana charts xD
@@solveit1304 especially dadhboards
Train controllers
Yup. 100% this. Could see this being absolutely amazing for that.
@@solveit1304 More like reading through full spreadsheets for a change and finding requirements.
i could see something like this being super useful in medical centers/ hospitals to display key statuses
Nah, it's more useful to play Dead Space in.
?? Why is this more useful than a normal tv for something like that
because the $600 dollars for the ambulance ride wasnt already bad enough? some of us live in america where we already pay through the nose for healthcare. quit giving them more excuses to gouge me.
@@Aeternum_Gaming LMAO med bill gonna increase x10 cause they are all using Odyssey Arks
"What are you gonna go with ONE of them? You might as well get 3." That's the most valid point I've ever heard. Let's see a triple monitor setup with these things and play some racing games on it
I'm disappointed they skipped over a racing game or something more atmospheric like tomb raider to highlight the immersion this should provide.
Thank you Plouffe for bringing out one of your fancy keyboards for this video, I love that I can hear the spacebar everytime Linus jumps in a game
I remember the days when I was sitting at home with my 15 inch CRT and I played Tomb Raider 1 on it... This monitor is just science fiction to my 15 year old self... A dream come true.
Wow, that would make an ideal solar collector when not in use.
Or use it as a satellite dish for the neighborhood in a storm
Haha which would be close to the equivalent of selling the car for gas money 🤑
In a theater like that it’s only right to listen to the song “Dupe- Rutina” 🥶🥶
HOLY $H!T indeed! I would actually be down for daily driving something like this. Even more so with the multiview with 2+ hdmi inputs. The price isn't actually that wild for a seemingly very well put together piece of hardware. Was easily expecting this to be 5-10k USD.
I mean the price is not necessarily a scam because it's gotta be hard to make these monitors, but i still think its unnecessary to spend this much on a monitor
@@inforced for an average monitor yeah you don't need to, this is more or a luxury option to fit very specific builds, like me and my fiance would he interested in this for our own little theatre set up
I want to take five of them, put them in portrait mode in a 5x1 setup with a final resolution of 10,800x3840
or u get a 55 inch lg oled for 1000 bucks
@@LaymensLament ye but it's not 165hz or curved or have built in speakers or have an insane built in os or... the list goes on
This would be absolutely insane for programming. Just imagine how much code you could see at once!!
Hello, programmer here... No
500$ tn 4k 43inch would be better than this
@@Crecross Hello, also a programmer. Yes. :)
Im getting it for this exact reason lmao
It's only 4k. Text will get choppy.
I was so sure when you said "I sure wanna experience it" that you were gonna continue with "and I sure want you to experience this segue to our sponsor"
$3500? I was expecting more. That is actually in the realm of reasonable. It replaces (in theory) 3 $1000 monitors. I was expecting more towards $7000 to $10000
It's terrible value actually. It was okay if it was QD OLED but it isn't. Odyssey NEO G9 have dropped in price, and this is basically two of those, with lower refresh, 1/4th the dimming zones, lower resolution and no DP ports. Was really hyped for it to replace my G9 but the low ppi is very disappointing.
Well it doesn't replace three monitors, since you can only use one hdmi source
@@DVSProductions Pretty sure it could at least do PIP for two. I thought you could do 2 32:9.
Edit: It doesn't didn't finished the video yet.
One HDMI source is the instant deal breaker. Without that this doesn't even have a reason to exist
3500 for 165hz eww no thanks
$3,500 is actually quite a lot less than I was expecting, when you see what novelty monitors and TVs can run up to, especially superlative ones.
Same... But I expect a price raise at launch. And the tax part on 3500$ is also a pretty big chunk too...
From my 15 years of IT repair, i can say that the limitation is actually comes from "all in one" cable connected to tv. Its probably doesnt have enough throughput.
Could offload the image combining into the AIO box but yeah the AIO box is amazing as plugging in HDMi's to my G9 is a bitch, I could only imagine the pain in that. Although the trade off of a single HDMI PBP mode is the put off from me.
The One Connect or whatever the name is should have 75GB bandwidth. So while it doesn't match the bandwidth of multiple HDMI 2.1 connections, it should have enough bandwidth for multiple 1080p and even 1440p screens at 120hz. Also, all the "magic" happens in the box. I think the monitor itself doesn't really have to worry about the HDMI inputs, just the One Connect output.
Okay, that's goals right there. Whenever I build my new desk for the PC, that's the monitor.
3 of them and a Racing/Fly Sim Setup ?
Take my Money Samsung !!! 🤩
Imagine placing three of them around you and gaming on it! 🤪 Now THAT's immersion!
That's not immersion, that's a straight up living room
@@Shakzor1 HAHA
@@Shakzor1 At what point does your monitor become indistinguishable from your VR headset?
@@_unreel when you cover your walls in your room with freaking monitors
RTX 4090ti : YAMEROOOOO
They NEED to make a 42 inch version of this. I really hope it happens
For 2200, not worth it
I would gladly pay $2200 for a really good quality mini led (thousands of zones) matte anti glare 4K approx 42 inch screen! 40-44 inches is the perfect size for writing software with 3 tall windows of decent size font showing about 500 lines of code and a little screen real estate left over for debug & other stuff. But all the monitors on the market today in this size are cheaply made with glossy reflective finish.
@@PaulStoffregen honestly after more than a decade developing, how you put your monitors for coding is as personalised as what wallpapers you use on your phone.
@@PaulStoffregen Also 240Hz like the NEO G8 so the motion performance is as close as possible to an OLED as a 4K LCD screen
Edit: And add a displayport too for the ultimate racing sim rigs
I got a 42 inch version for you right here buddy boy
splitscreen would go wild on this
For the price I was really expecting to have multiple inputs on at the same time, I have a 32" msi optix with kvm built in and having my laptop and desktop on with PiP has been incredibly useful when multi tasking, this seems like an oversight
Most TVs like this currently have 3~4 hdmi 2.1 ports
The Neo G9 can do that. This here is basically a better TV.
I bet it's a hardware limitation with the I/O box. If this really is just a TV in essence, it might only have the ability to process a single hdmi source at any given time. It's a limitation with basically many TVs.
I agree, i have a relatively cheap sceptre ultrawide that will do 2 digital sources and its great for hooking my switch up to.
As someone who uses a TV as my main monitor I approve of this. Although I would just get a TV for a fraction of the price, but still this is really cool and I could definitely see someone who does not care about price getting this monstrosity.
computers and internet primarily use white and black. which are both unnatural. and often flip between the two which can cause nerve damage over time. bigger monitor accelerates this
I think the biggest eye candy of this over a TV is the curve itself. Thats a massive curve and a 4k neo led with 1000+ dimming zones the tv is worth that price almost without the curve.
@@mikelisteral7863 That does not make any sense
the fact you can split up the screen and chance the sizes is whats most appealing to me. if i want to get in some pro gaming i can shrink it to 24 in or whatever
“Samsung has done it, they brought us the world’s first holy crap”
-Linus 2022
"They brought us the World's first-Holy crap"
😂
If it could do 4x1080p inputs, I'd put in the order today. Even virtual displays; telling the computer that there are 3 2160x1280 monitors attached when vertical would be useful.
You do need 3! Need to mount it to the SIM rig you guys built. Triple set up for sim racing would be the only practical need for these. It would be incredible
I wonder if stacking 2 would be better than 3 side by side, you get the advantage of the curve around you.
@@michaelfrock2473 The problem is mounting with stacking. I don't think there are any monitor arms that would support this monitor.
@@ahmethakancoskun899Yeah that's a custom job
Dude MS Flight Sim in 4k? man now that is sikkkkk, as well as with F1, Forza, Project Cars and iRacing...and Beamng
it would be awsome if there was 3 but idk about needing 3
I never thought I'd want something as out there as this but heck.. that would be crazy for some sim games.
That has to be the best Linus intro I think I've ever seen!
I could totally see someone out there getting two or three of these things for a racing or flight sim setup
This looks incredible, I'll have to keep this in mind when I inevitably decide I want a new monitor
Love Alex's logic, "Why would you get 1 of them in the first place? Might as well get three." I kind of agree with him, just a whole circle of Arcs. Wonder how big that would be, probably would need looks like 8 to do so. Looking at that radius. 3500 USD, that's weirdly not that bad.
In 1992 (ish) I spent $3,500 CAD on a 33MHz 486DX desktop, with a 120MB HDD and 4MB of RAM and a 14" monitor. All running MS DOS 5.0. It haunts me to this day.
Had the same system, that was a machine back in the day
Being that I was planning on a triple monitor setup that would easily cost close to $3500... If this goes on sale for $2500 it's an instant buy.
The only downside is paying for speakers that I won't be using (Def-tech BP7000SC/BP7001SC/CLR3000 system as a theatre/computer setup). But Yeah, $3500 for this is a LOT less than I was expecting.
It costs 2500 in Switzerland 😁
@@nallanosbor time to use a VPN then
@@gpfhantom1890 VPN is BS .
I would actually be interested in seeing this as a surround display setup with the center screen vertical and the left and right horizontal.
Alex's suggestion might become reality eh?
Yes. 1000x yes.
would really like to see more on the multiview and window splitting... that makes or breaks this buy for me.
1:07 the world's first HOLY CRAP