Check out this new episode on the Coldfear podcast to hear legends like Will Gadd, Aaron Mulkey, and Jackson Marvell plus our engineers get into the details of the Hydra and discuss topics like this. Hope you get to swing the Hydra soon. ruclips.net/video/9TpId0XvqBo/видео.htmlsi=ri0yehOWuNAGHaF_
Nomics are disposable junk after a year of real climbing and a poor benchmark standard for quality. Forecast or Eliteclimb would be significantly better standards to compare to. Although BD will tell you look at mulkeys testing or listen to will it’s kinda pointless...mainstream climbing brands are building a tools that caters to their primary user group - WI4/m6 and below.
C’mon men…It’s always not a good thing pointing at other’s work: that ‘s for sure. Maybe the quality of craftmanship is a little bit better than Petzl, pleagued by minor but not so minor material and mechanical problem but hey; the design of the whole tool is out dated right now. Too open the angle between the tip of the pick and too gentle the bend in the middle of the shaft, to say the least. Doesn’t matter if it seems a Nomic: this is not a tool i will use for climbing ice for the very end tech grade. Next winter Blue Ice will exit with two new tools: one the same league of Grivel intermediate levels machine. The other, a beast I guess, a marvel radically bending the shaft just near the head, like IceRock A’speed. 570 grams, no rivets, beautiful hydro shaft. Oh, I’m not a Blue Ice troll! I’m only a reaaaaaly old veteran, starting in 1985 and not missing a single winter , despite all the injuries and epics of extreme ice climbing. C’mon BD: technology and design are driven the future!!!
You can pry my cobras from my cold dead hands. Ok looking tool. Would’ve much rather seen a line of tools specialized for each discipline. I’ll still probably keep climbing alpine with cobras and mixed/tougher ice with fuels and look to try a higher end option from EliteClimb in the future. With as many snap issues as we see developing in handles it’s kinda unfortunate to see that handle construction remains unchanged from previous tool designs.
We'd love for you to swing the Hydra and let us know what you think. Check out all the demo events we're hosting this winter here: www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/content/hydra-demo-centers/ Also, for a great deep dive on what makes the Hydra unique, check out what Will Gadd, Aaron Mulkey, and Jackson Marvell are saying in this new Coldfear podcast: ruclips.net/video/9TpId0XvqBo/видео.htmlsi=vxFUV1uDPkmooYen
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Nomic users: "If its an ergonomic ice tool, its a nomic"
Black Diamond: Releases a new rope
Petzl users: Bro they just copied the Nomic
Came here to say this
how is that different/better than a field tested Nomic ?...
Bahha I love how this is the first comment as that was my first thought.
Is that the new black petzl hydranomic??😊
I find it pretty cool that I can have either petzl or BD. BD hooks it up with pro deal and I like the company and the people sounds like a win to me.
Check out this new episode on the Coldfear podcast to hear legends like Will Gadd, Aaron Mulkey, and Jackson Marvell plus our engineers get into the details of the Hydra and discuss topics like this. Hope you get to swing the Hydra soon. ruclips.net/video/9TpId0XvqBo/видео.htmlsi=ri0yehOWuNAGHaF_
Nomics are disposable junk after a year of real climbing and a poor benchmark standard for quality. Forecast or Eliteclimb would be significantly better standards to compare to. Although BD will tell you look at mulkeys testing or listen to will it’s kinda pointless...mainstream climbing brands are building a tools that caters to their primary user group - WI4/m6 and below.
So X-Dreams + Nomics. Cool.
Nothing Grivel can’t do
It looks like Nomic and X-Dream spent a night together.
Hahah came here to say this.
TLDR: They made Nomics but green
You sure this isn’t a nomic?
carboard box computer stand. using hand right next to impact test. cyclic testing at room temperature.......
If there is good availability of replacement parts, then this tool can be considered for purchase, otherwise it will simply be a waste of money...
C’mon men…It’s always not a good thing pointing at other’s work: that ‘s for sure.
Maybe the quality of craftmanship is a little bit better than Petzl, pleagued by minor but not so minor material and mechanical problem but hey; the design of the whole tool is out dated right now.
Too open the angle between the tip of the pick and too gentle the bend in the middle of the shaft, to say the least.
Doesn’t matter if it seems a Nomic: this is not a tool i will use for climbing ice for the very end tech grade.
Next winter Blue Ice will exit with two new tools: one the same league of Grivel intermediate levels machine.
The other, a beast I guess, a marvel radically bending the shaft just near the head, like IceRock A’speed.
570 grams, no rivets, beautiful hydro shaft.
Oh, I’m not a Blue Ice troll!
I’m only a reaaaaaly old veteran, starting in 1985 and not missing a single winter , despite all the injuries and epics of extreme ice climbing.
C’mon BD: technology and design are driven the future!!!
TLDR: we copied the Nomic
Things that are different are not the same 🤪
I have to say, the aluminum head doesn't make me that confident
Aluminum head is perfectly safe for a technical ice axe.
You can pry my cobras from my cold dead hands.
Ok looking tool. Would’ve much rather seen a line of tools specialized for each discipline. I’ll still probably keep climbing alpine with cobras and mixed/tougher ice with fuels and look to try a higher end option from EliteClimb in the future. With as many snap issues as we see developing in handles it’s kinda unfortunate to see that handle construction remains unchanged from previous tool designs.
Three years to copy Nomic is a pedestrian effort.
That's sweet 🤙
Quite similar to Petzl Nomic..
We'd love for you to swing the Hydra and let us know what you think. Check out all the demo events we're hosting this winter here: www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/content/hydra-demo-centers/
Also, for a great deep dive on what makes the Hydra unique, check out what Will Gadd, Aaron Mulkey, and Jackson Marvell are saying in this new Coldfear podcast: ruclips.net/video/9TpId0XvqBo/видео.htmlsi=vxFUV1uDPkmooYen