The Raid - Directing Perfect Action
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Support the channel: / rossp . Click CC (English) for names of films. Are The Raid and The Raid 2 perfect action films? Can you even have perfect action films? Is there such a thing as the perfect way to shoot action? Lets find out.
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The Raid 1 & 2 ruined mainstream movie fights for me lol, no matter how "Good' they may look they always look so slow and unskilled compared to this masterpiece
@@Grimr33fer I think you misunderstood his comment. He said The Raid is SO GOOD that it ruins other action movies for him. Learn to read properly first before insulting people.
@@Grimr33fer dude are you high?
LOL I AGREEEEEE
So basically what your saying is, "I didn't watch the video"
@@MrPoopenFarten ADUUUUUUUUUR ADUUUUR
I think there is one clear principle for action, there must be clarity.
THIS. No matter what style it is, as long as it CLEAR what is going on, it's better than 99% of the action that is out there today.
Chaos4190 yes yes yes!!!!! that's the reason why I CANT watch most action films nowadays because of clarity.... you don't SEE ANYTHING it's just stuff happening
For years I could not understand why I didn't care for the Columbiana movie... Its so clear now: The fight scenes were incoherent.
weeeeeeeelllllll, sometimes chaos and confusion can be good things in an action scene, but not to the point where you have no clue what is happening.
Bryan Chu Bourne Supremacy
Rule One: Don't shake the gawdamn camera
Step Two: Don't cut every .5 seconds
Step Three: Repeat
Rule 4: choreograph according to your actors ability & strengths.
Step five: pay some real expert to make a good choreography, or at least to give some advises and suggestions
Step 0 Dont write a 0815 movie with the world is at stage, we have mr. x, he is a super agent with training in every shit ...
Even without the shaky camera this movie was boring because the fight scenes don't mean anything if you don't care about the characters. And the characters in this movie are just cardboards.
the borne series kinda created this shaking cam/ quick cut style, but they made it work and actually put effort into it and used it to enhance the action. Most action movies now took that and use it as a crutch to mask bad choreography or fight sequences that wouldn't work otherwise.
the raid series is one of the best and most underrated movie out there. So lucky i've found this gem
Locker Coin I don't think it's underrated, in fact, I've never heard/read comments that said they were not good! They are definitely underSEEN, but people who've seen them recognize their greatness for sure! Personally, I consider the Raid 2 to be the best action movie I've ever watched
Locker Coin more like overlooked
watch headshot next. Indonesian movie, same main actor ust different director. Got kung fu vs silat too.
Underrated...really?
The Fuck. That movie is talked about and loved everywhere. I don't know a single person that hasn't seen it.
Raid 2 had bad choreography. Raid 1 was good, but raid 2 was bad. Very overrated.
I remember a friend who watched The Raid and suggested me to take a look.i was blown away.The Raid single handled reinvented the entire action genre and put Indonesia on the map.Kudos to Gareth Evans,Iko Uwais,Yayan Ruhian,Joe Taslim,among others.
The Raid I
Rama has to survive against hordes of men vying to kill him.
The Raid II
Hordes of men have to survive Rama coming to kill them.
HAH!!! GOTEEM!!
Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!😅😅😅
HA! Exactly. Why had I never thought of this before? xD
Very accurate xD
Lmao that's exactly what happened hahahaha
Can you imagine a Batman movie, centered around detective work and fighting directed by The Raid's director? None of that personal drama love interest bullcrap. Just Batman saving the city from villains.
That would be amazing. Hell, I would love to see Gareth Evans direct a western or a Tron sequel too.
Gareth isn't the fight director, Yayan Ruhian is the fight director for The Raid, he is also the actor in the film too (the guy with long curly hair that looks like a badass hobo)
I think you mean fight choreographer. Director works with the cameras, and fights can be amazing but if you make frequent cuts it's gonna look shitty. I want him to be the director so there won't be any shitty Hollywood cuts on the fight. They can look visceral and brutal.
yeah fuck personal drama! haha i mean who even needs character depth? characters with personalities are for pussies!
Haha yeah, let's have another movie where Batman struggles with his parents' death and a kidnapped love interest! That's not tired at all!
When i saw Raid 1 in the cinema after the fight with Mad Dog, after he is finally goes down, everyone started clapping. That is the effect of a good fight scene.
Did everyone in the theater cry when the Sergeant was killed?
xD
@@georgeatallah1128 I would cry if I was there
I've got to admit, I was waiting for Mad Dog to get back up... he was a terrifying force of nature that not even half a fluro light tube jabbed into his jugular could stop him.
Gotta admit if they picked up their rifles like all trained cops or swat operators do than they would have done the job way faster. But it's an action movie and of course they have to engage in hand to hand combat
@@goodluck2119 In-universe, everyone ran out of ammo a long time ago.
Everytime I see The Raid 2, I visualize it as a video game movie done right.
The raid is is actually Sleeping Dogs: Live Action
Mortal kombat movie
@@07886336 The fight in the game is ridiculous.
Hard Boiled is that to me. I mean it inspired a number of pretty damn good games like Max Payne and FEAR.
Shit, you just translated a feeling I had
just found out that the directer of The Raid is going to be directing a DeathStroke film. Perfect choice in my opinion
R rated or bust.
CAN"T FUCKING WAIT!!! :D
Holy fucking shit if that movie comes out R rated then I am hyped.
It probably won't happen, DC just announce movies left right and centre but ever go through with them
im still praying every day that this actually happens but DC is so shit at producing their movies and making them happen that ive almost lost hope.
The Raid .. a movie that changes all action movie to a better way ..
The angle, the color tone, the clarity, the brutality and more
Re:born is much better, just saying.
Lucky Wize Except John Wick.
@Cyberdemon Mike Are there exists another foreign action movie that so good, it's main actors instantly got an offers from Hollywood? Not even taiwan/mainland action films managed to do that.
@Cyberdemon Mike nah dude. They're cool af. Watched it about 3 years ago and still remember every motherfucker. Rama and Koso are B.E.A.S.T.S.
@Cyberdemon Mike The point of the raid was to make a forgettable character and solely focus on the action. It's like saying Mad Max had too many chases scenes in it, that's the whole point of the movie.
Really glad to see the Raid getting the recognition it deserves.
The car chase sequence in Raid 2 is the best car chase scene I have ever seen. The flow of the camera and action was pure magic! It immersed me in the action so much that I had to remind myself that it was just a movie. I love how Gareth uses action to emphasize the stakes..that is what makes an action film great.
Except the fact that its an auto 🤣
Gareth almost direct death stroke movie
It's how I felt about ong-bak and even matrix 1 to some degree
Take it from someone who's seen just about every martial arts movie there is..... The Raid and The Raid 2 are without a doubt the best martial arts movies ever made. I can not imagine the amount of time and effort it took to choreograph these fights as well as time them so perfectly. Please dont miss these underrated martial arts gems!!!
Because they cast master pencak silat
@@polonium7544 nah, there are thousands silat movies from indonesia and malaysia but non are considered good, it's just how good Gareth Evan was as a director tbh
@@satuliebe4842 let's just go with it's combination of both. Mastery in their respective fields, the martial arts and filmmaking as well. It was great people in a great timing kinda situation. Something that would really rare to happen but when it does, there you got the masterpiece.
what u think of the undisputed series esp part 2 and 3, I think it has the best in ring fight scenes - the grappling for which
I mean 80-90's hong kong films still holds up to this day.
The three characters from the principal cast of the The Raid films had a cameo in Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Sadly, they didn't get to showcase their fighting skills in the film. If I remember correctly, they got killed by that creature in the ship after they confronted Han Solo.
well at least Joe Taslim(sersan jaka 1st raid) casted in star trek beyond (as manas) and fast 6 (as one of the bad guy)
That part, to me, emphasizes the majority of my problems with the Sequels in one sentence: "Hey, we have a really good setup with potentially awesome pay-off...
Let's not use it. That'll be totally unexpected."
And how do you put Donnie Yen in Star Wars and NOT make him fight Darth Vader? wasted talent
because he'd get his ass kicked lol
Bruce Leeds nah how do you not make him a Jedi knight? Like one who valued seclusion and meditation? That would explain why he would not be around the other Jedi knights. Give that man a goddamn lightsaber! Star wars has so much aces in the sleeves but nah let's make a movie about fucking Han, Leia, remake a new hope, la di da di fucking da
I've been a Silat fighter for decades, & it's great seeing a less popularized martial art get the spotlight.
Are you American?
@@ayusaleha4452there are pencak silat in America
how to shoot a perfect action scene
-show the motion and connection of the strike to the body within the shot, and don't cut during the the impact or have multiple cuts during the motion of the strike.
HoneyReno agreee
Unless it's Jackie Chan's style of zooming into the point of impact as a way to "replay" that hit. In that case, that's a cool technique to let the audience feel the impact again/ have time to react to the impact
I watched both Raid movies this week based on this video. Thank you
To be precise , The raid series is not action films, it’s survival horror
The first one is 2nd not really
The Raid 2 kitchen fight, is that the greatest fight scene ever?
DEBBO8080 it's one of my faves but I'd say crows zero and crows zero 2 and merentau all have some kickass final fight scenes. Theyre all good movies tbh
In my opinion, it sucked. They took way too many hits, and even knife slashes, and kept going like it was nothing. That took me out of the movie; no one can take that many blows (even fatal ones, like neck strikes), and still keep on fighting, let alone walking.
@@Gojira98 what?! this is movie, dude... not science.
if you are too serious using your brain on movies, then you dont deserve movies at all
@@Gojira98 you would be surprised how much damage you can take when youre full of adrenaline
@@Gojira98 Suspension of disbelief --- The term suspension of disbelief or willing suspension of disbelief has been defined as a willingness to suspend one's critical faculties and believe something surreal; sacrifice of realism and logic for the sake of enjoyment. (copied from Wikipedia)
The Raid blew my mind when i discovered it ... probably my favourite action piece
I thought the action in Logan was great. Felt gritty, grounded and I liked the fact that there was always the threat of Logan getting seriously injured with each fight.
somanytakennames he does get his ass beat in that movie. In the other X-Men films I never felt any consequence. Logan had real _consequence_. Which builds tension.
This is one of the main reasons I loved Logan, and will be going into this once I get it on blu.
That said, that shot during the forest fight just after he takes the serum which follows him as he carves through like 7 dudes in 10 seconds was awesome. I'd be lying if I said I didn't say; "That was fucking awesome" to myself afterwards.
+Stolen ... I think you meant boredom. It's literally a guy slashing drunkenly at things while cg blood occasionally flies at the camera. Just a shitty movie all around.
I agree that one of the most important elements of Logan was its use of action to convey his age and vulnerability. He feels genuinely feeble at times. They also smartly contrast his current state to his younger self in two different ways, one of which is rather poignant. Unfortunately, my biggest problem with the movie is that the antagonists are really uninteresting and overly familiar, so it's not all ideal.
When I first heard that a white guy is going to direct a silat-inspired movie, my first reaction was "Well, sh*t."
Why? This is not the first time that I've seen silat on movies. Silat has had been portrayed in movies from Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei and to some extent, even Thailand and the Philippines too. It's great that the Nusantara countries have great respect for their native martial arts, but sadly most of the movies are kinda ... meh. Too much focus on magic and drama and choreographies badly dented their appeal, which is why there are hardly any worthy silat movies since the 80's.. until The Raid.
I'd say that the Raid's director didn't cut corner when it come to portraying the actual essence of silat. To me silat is practically an assassination arts that developed through centuries of actual combat situations, and I'm not saying it just because my silat teacher used to say he'll kill me if I screw up a spar again. Sure, it all looks dance-y and slow-mo when choreographed and unarmed, but put a keris or kerambit in one hand and the perspective will change a lot.
I am kinda thankful that the martial art is given its due respect in the movies. Silat is after all, one of the few symbols that binds the disparate Nusantara nations together, despite their constant bickering and tussles.
well said..
im agree..
Wesley Snipes uses silat in Blade 2. I think the movie you are reffering to is called THE GATE its on RUclips and it's pretty good
What's his skin colour have to do with it?
Brace Land it has NOTHING to do with it, It doesn't matter how effective a martial art is in real life, If it doesn't look good on cam it wont considered for film. None of the action in Bruce Lee's movies reflect his philosophy of Martial Arts in real life, It's entertainment
@@tastycookiechip Probably because it's pretty fair to assume that a forty years old dude from Wales probably doesn't know much about a martial art which originates from Indonesia?
5:05 Is a point I feel is exemplified again in The Raid during the laboratory fight scene, specifically the action surrounding Lt. Wahyu. Considering the difference in age and body type between him and Dagu and Rama, he fights almost in the way you describe a Jackie Chan fight - whilst his central technique is very boxer/brawler, compensating for a lack of speed and technical skill with raw strength, he also utilises the environment heavily whilst fighting, throwing tables, tipping shelves and filing cabinets, and swinging chairs to tip the balance of the fight in his favour despite him having demonstrably less skill and agility than the characters we've followed for the majority of the film, but it still works because the camera follows the weight of the blows and lets the audience feel these great big wind ups followed by the knockout blow.
I like to think that he's used to be as good or better than rama and wagu but he's old now so he cant fight like he used to
The thing that makes an action scene truly great to me is when all the enemy characters have purpose. Instead of just flailing their arms around in the background waiting for their chance to get their ass kicked. They actually fight and work together to take down the protagonist. Not only does it make them appear more formidable and threatening, but it makes the main character appear more human and more badass in his/her ability to take down the enemy horde.
Looks like the raid is setting a new standard in action movies
Man, I love your channel and your view of cinema. I would like to add spanish subtitles to use it in some cinema and fliming workshops Im giving to highschool students. I hope you give your permission. Keep the good work.
Of course, that would be awesome!
But what about the Bourne Series!
DINOSAWR doesn't hold up. too many edits, too many close up shots
Goblin Identity was a well shot but not exceptional fight scene, Supremacy was nauseating and Ultimatum was a nice fight but by then you realise "Actually Bourne doesn't have many fight scenes"
@ignacio Ruiz, si precisas ayuda con la traduccion avisame!
A good watch and listen for all fans of fight scenes! Listen loud Hollywood..We don't want fight scenes that are chopped up and edited at the end! Give us more real fight scenes that are taken in less shots. Like The Raid movies!
Recently watched The Night Comes For Us on Netflix. Fukin brutal.
Love the brutality and joe taslim does an amazing job protraying the protagonist. But there is something i dont like about the night comes for us..
@@Shaolinh808 hmm and that thing is?
No, really I'm curious, because Indonesian films are far from perfect, so it's interesting to see
So this is where the game Sifu hall way fight comes from 00:18 😱😆
'The Raid' is near the pinnacle of action films, it both its pace and its execution. Great video, great examples, keep it up!
Both Raid movies are everything I love about action movies. Brutal with emotion. Sadly not many movies can pull it off. But both Raid movies did it to Perfection.
I asking you how big impact of THE RAID (2011) in Hollywood action movies now?. The Raid is COVID for movies industries. Even batman doing fight scenes just like Rama. 😂
Brawl in Cellblock 99 is another great example of slow, chunky, and satisfying fight scenes
just finished both Raid Movies. amazing
Just want to point out that "action scene" is a general term. This video mostly shows fight scenes. But as Hard Boiled, Fury Road, and Rurouni Kenshin (live action) have shown us; great action choreography doesn't always have to involve hand-to-hand combat.
I absolutely LOVE the Raid films, and can't fucking wait for the 3rd one. I also love how the camera constantly moves with and follows the characters movements and their positions in the environment.
When the man got slammed to the table, then he got dragged, it feels so real. I really like this approach, seeing things from the guy's perspective.
That being said, what I don't like though is that the MC almost dominating the whole fight where he should've been exhausted. Typically MC has to lose to the villain for some time first, before he remembers what he's fighting for, and making more resolved giving him more motivation and finally beat the villain.
I don't remember how I heard about Raid but I'm glad I did. It upsets me though because I haven't seen anyone talking about it. Ever. movies like these should be talked about. all the time.
I disagree, I have the feeling that Raid is a classic since years, at least in Europe...
Sadly neither Raid movie did overly well at the box offices. Dumb public cares more for these endless CGi superhero "action" movies instead. Smh!!!
I saw it opening night since i got lucky and saw a tv spot during Adult Swim a few days before it released in theaters.
Fact: They promoted the Mike Shinoda score in the tv spot for American audiences.
choreography is everything. the context of the fight and the characters only enhance the fight itself. the raid fights are amazing whether you watch the whole movie or just a clip online
Iron Fist take note.
Clearly Iron Fist is the weakest of all Netflix Marvel series. Hopefully The Defenders will come out great.
Jet Li's Fist of Legend was excellent. Liked Iron Fist overall, but left disappointed with the fight scenes. Editing was a factor for sure.
Iron fist actually has some very good fighting, it's more elegant than Daredevil, but still terrific. Shot for shit though.
Cinematography is as important as choreography.
So much over editing. Some fans still liked it, but I'll call their taste, "basic"
Iron Fist fight scenes are Terrible NEVER compare them to Daredevil
Clarity. Context. Control. Communication.
The essence of action, lies within the motion of life. Start, Change, Stop. Where motion begins, how it is shaped, and where it ends, communicates the message of action, and controlling this allows the wheels of life to come into play in a scene. It is moving to the rhythm set by the message of each moment, and knowing that rhythm allows the clarity and context that cinema symbolizes in it's display on camera. Our eye into the work being told on film.
Raid 2 is the goat action film!
Raid 1 > raid 2
@@burningknuckle26 Agree
I don't like how other movies make the main character don't take a hit, and the enemies are just bombarded with punches and kicks.
What i love about the raid fight scenes is that it has the balance between how quick the movement is and how hard hitting and rewarding of each hit felt.
Evans is a master in directing and editing action. Undeniable fact. In the making of he tells, that he has a laptop on set where he is editing on location to see, if the shots fit together.
The Raind 1 e 2 they are perfection
.Thanks Gareth Evans.
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Both "Raid" films were impressive. In a behind the scenes movie the director allowed the fight scenes to be choreographed by the actors to push the story further.
"Give me two or three moves here to get from point a to b"... he said. He (director) filmed the best angles to sell the shot.
I saw your comment on my Iko Uwais video. The timing of our uploads is pretty coincidental. Unfortunately I'll have to reupload because after 5 hours it was suddenly blocked in the US. But in terms of fight choreography in action movies even non-martial arts based action films it seems like Southeast Asian martial arts has become especially popular in the last two decades. Whether it be Muay Thai/Muay Boran in Tony Jaa's films, Silat in Garett Evans' movies, or Filipino Martial Arts in Hollywood (regardless of shaky cam and quick cuts) the quick efficient, brutal, and realistic style of that region's martial arts has really caught on.
I think the trend of next decade would be something more direct, practical, and applicable to any situation. Like boxing, wrestling, or even just plain gunfight. The focus would be less on exotic value, but more on realism.
Unbreakable. The simplest fight scene. But so damn intense.
One shot with rear naked choke and that sound track!
This director Gareth Evans is from Wales. So a fellow countryman to me. He did gangs of London which is an amazing series. If u like Gareth Evans style of hyper violence youl like his gangs of London series. He's doing an action film called HAVOC WHICH TOM HARDY IS starring in. He's such a good director. The raid 1 and 2 are classic films. Yh Evans is one of my favorite directors. And him being Welsh is a plus coz I'm Welsh aswell. Love to see a fellow countryman do well in the film world. ✌️
He also did one segment from VHS 2. Which just happens to be the best segment of the entire franchise lol
You have perfectly summarized what action scenes should be. I agree with every single word you said! Glad I found your channel.
The hits in The Raid 1 changed my life. I swear they were actually getting beat/stabbed to death. By far my fave action movies.
I love action drama where the emotions builds up and it shows in fight finales. I've watched quite a few Korean movies and really enjoyed them.
I personally prefer action scenes with realistic fights. It makes it more violent, animalistic. That person is fighting for his life with the intent to kill or seriously hurt someone. In real life you won't be doing roundhouse kicks or any of that stuff martial arts teaches you. It's just you and your fists, legs or whatever you gotta use. I find them more intense that flying around doing backflips and whatnot.
d2cuadrados i agree that it's good to show what consequences violences has and realistic depiction of it in movies helps.
that said, there's a reason jackie chan likes to make his movies lighter. they're not about being realistic. they're comedies with a sense of action. jokes and acrobatics. :D and much more suitable for kids. everyone's gotta start from somewhere right? haha
Then I think you would like special ID, SPL and flashpoint.
But even flashpoint has some flashy kicks. It doesn't matter how fights are choreographed, they just need to be well shot and make sense to the story. Lethal Weapon one has a great fight scene, So does Captain America: Winter Soldier, two completely different styles
Ryoo Seung-wan's action varies from realistic to batshit crazy, but it's always good
I watched the more mainstream action movies (including the 80's action heroes of course) + the classic martial art stuff featuring Jackie, Lee, etc.. And I don't recall any movie with this kind of crude fighting, which is funny. I think this is funny because when melee weapons are involved, you have examples of more choreographic stuff, also examples of crude fighting. The recent battle of the bastards is a good example, it mix fancy choreography with violent action. I think the modern martial art movie needs to follow a similar pattern, fancy + real. The Raid got close to that balance, but the fanciness takes over.
this video made me appreciate fight scenes even more than I already do but also it adds to my appreciation to the iron fist Netflix series. people have been saying the action isn't good in that series but really I think its great
gareth evans should direct a batman movie!!
PEANUT Exactly what I was thinking
PEANUT iko and yayan ruhian should be the choreographer
Or a Mission Impossible movie.
Better yet; a Mortal Kombat movie.
CegeRoles
definitely agree with MK. Gareth is perfect, along with his team
ima need whoever direct the fight scene of iron fist to watch this. spot on commentary.
If you enjoy things like the Raid, I'd also like to recommend a Korean film called The Man from Nowhere. Very good action drama with incredible emotionally charged fight sequences.
Agree with this. Very clean cinematography and a good story.
Imma try it, thanks
It was a good movie. I think "The committment" is the best action thriller to come out of south Korea. Great film with a better and more unique storyline than The man from nowhere
The Man from Nowhere.
Story 85%
Fight scenes 15%
The raid.
Story 15%
Fight scenes 85%
South korean cinema has produced some of best Knife fight movies, They are great, Love from Pakistan🇵🇰❤️
rama + andi vs maddog in the raid 1 still gives me goosebumps
I love how the first Raid is straight up survival horror movie with martial arts in it. Gritty, visceral and absolutely brutal.
People sucking in wind through their teeth and going "Ooooo!" was the sound I most heard during the Raid II screening. I watched the Night Comes for Us on Christmas day.
Next film wu assassins (Iko uwais) actors and by ronman, jujuchang,
the choreographers and cameramen of the raid movies should handle every hollywood martial arts fight scenes
on the comment about differing Star Wars action scenes and duels, I'd like to give props to JJ Abrams in The Force Awakens for going back to the more raw and emotional style of fighting in the original trilogy. I feel like the last scene between Rey and Kylo was a good example of a scene that didn't necessarily require blazingly fast dueling to evoke emotion from the crowd. Just a thought, I know there are plenty of people who would disagree with it.
What's perfect in that fight at the end of The Raid Berenthal is that it *is* edited but in a way that actually *helps* the frenetic pace of the combat without actually detracting from the fight itself.
The editing is done with the same technique as the fighting, the same ability, the same skill. It's martial arts in film in every way.
Bonus point for the Raid is that unlike other action films the characters get fatigued and injured from the blows. Movements slow down after awhile and movements shorten. Some action films the character is an Energizer bunny made of Steel, cant be hurt and just keep going full speed
Glad i discovered this. It's like every frame a painting channel, but about action movies.
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Nice vidéo. The scènes of Logan are so good too, slow, brutal, violent and réalistic.
What i liked so much about The Raid was, that it really hurts to watch. The hits feel so real and brutal that i had to flinch.
One argument in defense of RotS, Kenobi and Anakin know each other so well, they match each other so well, it's "supposed" to look highly choreographed. Teacher vs master-student, if you practically know every move your opponent would most likely make, all either side can really do is press on, hoping either side makes the tiniest mistake, or they pop out something the other didn't know about/think of. In the end, a seemingly tired Kenobi theoretically makes a chess move. He takes "the high ground", then plays on Anakin's arrogance and pride. Kenobi most likely told him about his battle with Maul, but probably never told him he learned how to counter what he did. Kenobi probably felt he couldn't hold out much longer against Anakin's seemingly bottomless reservoir of anger and energy, so he relied on his own cunning and experience,and Anakin's ego and fury. Kenobi hoped in a way, I'm sure, that Anakin wouldn't be dumb enough to "try it", but he knew he would. Anakin's anger and pride blinded him, in many ways.
Brothers who trained and fought together for over a decade, learned each other so well, it was quite literally like fighting a mirror, each having an answer for the other's move. Knowing this, I'd be surprised if it *didn't* look that way. Think back to A New Hope, two old men, one past his prime, the other only half the man he used to be(still significant though). And yet they *still* matched each other, move for move.
great analysis, I love The Raid 1/2
as well as Jackie
wouldve been cool to see Ong Bak (street chase sequence)
as well as Sho Po Lang (Donnie Yen alley way Baton vs Knife fight ) :)
Yep, that baton vs knife is one of the best fight scene ever.
4:02 shit, what a jump scare
I like how The Raid doesn’t tread the lead as some kind of god. Towards the end you can clearly see it’s taking its toll on him...
I'm sorry but Anakin and Obi-wans duel was emotionally charged.
Hollywood action movies ought to learn from The Raid series
I can think of a few perfect action scenes, but rarely are they conventional action sequences. The first is in Big Trouble in Little China. The "it's all in the reflexes" moment. It expertly captures who Jack Burton is, a lovable but over-confident tryhard, while also giving him an epic, cathartic, badass moment, and allowing him to effect the overall plot even while Dennis Dun is really the main character.
The second perfect action moment is the last two minutes of Sanjuro. I actually prefer this sequel to Yojimbo over the original movie. The final quick-draw showdown is almost a full minute of utterly tense stillness and silence. It is an emotionally violent peak in the relationship of the two characters.
There is also when the Bride kills Bill. I have no idea why people hate on that scene, it was absolutely perfect. One of the most rewarding fight scenes I've ever watched.
Finally, even though I haven't watched the movie in over ten years, I will never not admire and idolize that scene in Desperado when Trejo's character leaps onto the roof of a bulletproof limo and starts raining knives onto the occupants through the sunroof. It's like something out of a trashy Mexican comic book, which Robert Rodriguez would be the first to admit is exactly the point. I've been an action connoisseur from that moment onward.
Oh, and the opening scene from Once Upon a Time in the West! Okay, THAT is my submission for most perfect action scene, and now I have to stop thinking about this or it'll get out of hand.
Basically, you like loooong drawn out moments punctuated by a sudden burst of violence (which I do too as they are badass af). Also anyone who says good things about Big Trouble in Little China is okay in my book.
I could say good things about Little China all day long and never repeat myself.
I'ts really a big shame that a very few people know about great action films like The Raid franchise, Headshot, Oldboy(2003) and others and instead they go watch Fast Furious, xXx Xander Cage and other shits.
old boy is not an action movie dude...
@@harrison28514 yeah not even close lol. Old boy has possiblt the best one take fight scene ever filmed but its not an action movie.
@@vorbo01agreed, the fight is just raw and brutal, like not choreographed
john wick lol
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The raid 1 & 2 are the best martial arts movies ever made.
Ong bak 1 and legend of drunken master are up there too but nobody has anything on the raid movies.
God tier 🙌
Ong Bak didn't have the marketing, so it wasn't as popular outside southeast asia
one of my top 10 fight movies ever
How the hell did Koreans and Indonesian do best action movies ever... I'm still baffled by this but Raid and Oldeuboi... jesus fuck nobody comes even close.
Once again this channel puts out a good video!
When I saw a new video uploaded about the amazingly filmed action in the Raid - instant thumbs up!!!!
I so agree that not all action scenes should be about speed, shaky cam and overly choreographed.
The raid was amazing. Loved every second of it. The fight scenes were brutal
John Wick: “I need your help.”
*Scott Adkins turns around*
Bruce Lee: The Legend
Jackie Chan: The Picasso of Martial Arts
Jet Li: The Resuscitator of Martial Arts
The first john wick movie did close up fighting the best, IMO.
The times Wick got hurt the most was when the enemy closed distance to him. He tries to end the melee quickly to return to his firearm, so as not to be at a disadvantage.
Even a skilled martial artist has human reaction times. In a fight against multiple unknown opponents, a lot of the fight will be spent *anticipating* the next move, because you wont have time to react quick enough to every punch/slash/kick. Sometimes you predict wrongly and get teeth knocked out by an elbow instead of blocking a punch. A great movie has moments like that
Take notes Iron Fist..
if only they'd had a good showrunner and cast lewis tan instead of bland noodle head
the casting was good. people just call him bland cause he's a damn monk. he's acting like a monk. what do you expect? lmao but the showrunner is a badass. and honestly iron fist doesn't need to take notes. it actually hits all the points said within this video. it doesn't over edit and the fight scenes are done extremely well. it seems like peole are repeating other people instead of actually critiquing the show itself. their fighting scenes weren't perfect but they were damn great mostly
really? I'm not sure if I'm watching the same Iron Fist show as you, but if you watch those fight sequences, you can clearly see over editing and terrible action sequences. Even Rossatron made a Defenders video about how bad the action was in Iron Fist
Agreed. It also took me a while, to accept, that Danny is basically a (pre)teen in an adult's body, that had no childhood and healthy growing up. He can not help being gullible, impulsive etc... but it's exhausting for me.
The cast of the Meachums was great and made it worth watching, but for a plot about a martial arts monk I expected some better fight scenes.
When I see iko or yayan in other movie I was like did the director make them move slower
Now I want to watch The Raid again
Thank you for your work... This video made me think about the directing of action in a new way.
I was watching Iron Fist on Netflix. Then I watched this and now ima go watch The Raid one and two again.
Clarence Dass so far Iron Fist is pretty boring man. the iron fist fights has so many "clearly stunt fights". though I am not yet finished watching the whole season.
yeah bro, it is a bit of a drag, More corporate drama than the action I expected. I hope it picks up; I thought Daredevil season one wanna kind of slow till episode 5 or 6 too.
Such an underrated movie
"Overediting is worse than shaky camera"
But have you considered overediting AND shaky camera
Good stuff. I would not say the Raid films "ruined" mainstream (by which I mean big-budget, American, post-1980s) films for me - I think that happened when I first saw The Killer, Hard-Boiled and other John Woo films at the end of the 80s and early 90s. Those began my love affair with Hong Kong action, and later East Asian action films in general. I'm American and like to see movies in the cinema, and still have much easier access to my homegrown stuff, so even now 30 years later I've still seen far, far more American & English-language action stuff - probably 3/4 of all the action films I've seen. But when I'm thinking of the BEST stuff, it's well over half from Hong Kong, Japan, Indonesia, etc. And I haven't even gotten into those gritty Italian action films of the 70s yet, I'm sure there's gold there as well.
I can still enjoy an MCU film (well, some of them) or stuff like John Wick, but it's a different kind of fun for sure and when I really want something where the action is the reason for being, I head East.
the oldboy scene was just so perfect
I love Matrix, The Raid, Jackie Chan movies and John Wick and much more. And I do agree with what you said. No matter how complicated or simple an action scene can be in a movie if there is nothing that connects the audience to the characters. It would be a bad action scene. Specially over edited with so much cut offs to make the scene adrenaline filled even though its not. Or when the main Character on the movie is all of a sudden a bad ass who knows martial arts or anything. Suddenly so killed he could kill everyone of he dare's so (Points at The Equalizer).
imho having a plot is one thing but also having the character a legit reason to fight, a fight that shows emotions, the pain, the exhaustion, the struggle to fight to live and not die, and make off the movie as near to life as possible and NOT a fight scene where the character is over exaggerated (I am looking at you The Equalizer), where he suddenly is so Over powered, and shows him as if his a type of character who can kill 100+ or even who knows how many skilled killers cause his an "ex CIA". His body build is not even equal to his "skills". That really annoys me. It just don't make sense. Make a bald old beer bellied ex CIA become on OP Character who can kill just about anyone. And not get a single scratch at all. Again I am pointing at you The Equalizer. I hate those types of movies.
The Equalizer is a far cry vs The likes of The Raid, or John Wick or Jackie Chan, Bourne series of movies and many more.
And also just like in the Movies. This can be gross and inappropriate but I guess its same with 18+ Porn videos :P haha
A good scene would be something where the woman and man got "passion". Like they are really into it. And that they are both having the best Sex in a scene. Without faking it. With there bodies showing signs of pleasure. Thats what a good scene is. And that's what makes people turned on.
The other side of it is just like with Bad Action Movies.
in this case, a Bad porn scene is when the guy just suddenly shags the woman, no foreplay, no passion, just shag like idiots. And the woman fake moans the whole scene while constantly staring at the camera. Thats a massive Turn off.
Its just like The Equalizer, that movie was crap.
RAID 3 PLZ!!!