Amazing process as always. Observing many club players I’ve started seeing this quite a bit. Many coaches who are fluent in this subject are so focused with the elbow positioning and that’s pretty legit, but at the end of the day your hand that holds the racquet then wrist is firstly attached to the forearm so I agree with your take and in my opinion this should be addressed more as a priority. I also find that since many players have a very common issue with the toss, which is often short, by shortening the “drop” they feel more confident about the point of contact without being conscious about it. Just my two pennies. Great video as always. Cheers, M
that helped a lot, many thanks for that. that pitcher slow-mo was sick. I don't thing I ever saw anything like it. I remember my first coaches words about the serve: it's basically a throwing motion. That's what he meant by that. And that was over 30years ago - awesome closure
A few points to note: 1. If you don't maintain a Continental Grip, a good serve motion will be difficult. 2. If you don't have the physicality/base mechanics for a good throwing motion, the improvement on the serve will be difficult. The gentleman highlighted in the video has a decent base throwing motion mechanic, many people do not or cannot. 2b. If you are right handed, play and serve right handed. If you are left handed, play and serve left handed. The number of times I've seen people try to play with their non-dominant hand is considerably more than you would think possible, especially left handed people who try to play righty. If you have a physical problem in your dominant shoulder, then fine. If you don't have a problem, then don't. 3. The video doesn't address, and I never seen a video that does address the underlying cause of poor serve mechanics into and through the trophy pose to an attempted racquet drop, which is the conscious/subconscious fear that they will hit themselves with the racquet. Many players try to move the racquet in a way that they think keeps the racquet away from their head, but in fact leads to the racquet to more likely hit themselves in the head. Many people cannot do the balls in sock drill and definitely cannot do the balls in sock drill with a racquet instead of the balls in sock. People who have decent serve mechanics have no problems doing the balls in sock drill, everyone else almost kills themselves and thus act accordingly to avoid doing so. 🤷🏻♂
Hey Ian, good video. Bit confused on the racket drop. Should the strings be facing your back when preparing to move forwards before getting on edge? Or stay on edge throughout?
Probably doesn't matter if you find a comfortable way for your shoulder, arm, and wrist to flex more. Maybe accelerating the racket through the air is easier on its edge.
@@theaykay Yeah I get that it’s what most comfortable but what generates more power? My prior attempts I found being on edge throughout produced less power and it was easier. Uncertain though
@@EssentialTenniswell ...it seems to me that it's not so much her arm but her very straight body position that causes the angle. All the other examples bend backwards (their face to the sky) to gaan the necessary power.
Nice video, Ian. It’s interesting you chose one of the worst pro examples of forearm angle and supinated racket drop in your thumbnail image! It should’ve been Djokovic instead.
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Dang, Ian... this is the best serve information any pro has ever shared for free. Thank you for your biomechanical insight and your generosity!
So glad it was helpful!
IAN DUDE! You finally explained the link between pitching and tennis serving that I've been looking for. Thank you so much brother!
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing process as always. Observing many club players I’ve started seeing this quite a bit. Many coaches who are fluent in this subject are so focused with the elbow positioning and that’s pretty legit, but at the end of the day your hand that holds the racquet then wrist is firstly attached to the forearm so I agree with your take and in my opinion this should be addressed more as a priority. I also find that since many players have a very common issue with the toss, which is often short, by shortening the “drop” they feel more confident about the point of contact without being conscious about it.
Just my two pennies.
Great video as always.
Cheers,
M
Great comments!
that helped a lot, many thanks for that. that pitcher slow-mo was sick. I don't thing I ever saw anything like it. I remember my first coaches words about the serve: it's basically a throwing motion. That's what he meant by that. And that was over 30years ago - awesome closure
So glad it was a helpful visual!
Excellent lesson 💯
Thanks! 😃
Great instruction ! 🎾
A few points to note:
1. If you don't maintain a Continental Grip, a good serve motion will be difficult.
2. If you don't have the physicality/base mechanics for a good throwing motion, the improvement on the serve will be difficult. The gentleman highlighted in the video has a decent base throwing motion mechanic, many people do not or cannot.
2b. If you are right handed, play and serve right handed. If you are left handed, play and serve left handed. The number of times I've seen people try to play with their non-dominant hand is considerably more than you would think possible, especially left handed people who try to play righty. If you have a physical problem in your dominant shoulder, then fine. If you don't have a problem, then don't.
3. The video doesn't address, and I never seen a video that does address the underlying cause of poor serve mechanics into and through the trophy pose to an attempted racquet drop, which is the conscious/subconscious fear that they will hit themselves with the racquet. Many players try to move the racquet in a way that they think keeps the racquet away from their head, but in fact leads to the racquet to more likely hit themselves in the head. Many people cannot do the balls in sock drill and definitely cannot do the balls in sock drill with a racquet instead of the balls in sock. People who have decent serve mechanics have no problems doing the balls in sock drill, everyone else almost kills themselves and thus act accordingly to avoid doing so.
🤷🏻♂
All great points/comments!
Thank you open my eyes.
You're welcome
thank you, really helful
Glad to hear that!
Hey Ian, good video. Bit confused on the racket drop. Should the strings be facing your back when preparing to move forwards before getting on edge? Or stay on edge throughout?
Probably doesn't matter if you find a comfortable way for your shoulder, arm, and wrist to flex more. Maybe accelerating the racket through the air is easier on its edge.
@@theaykay Yeah I get that it’s what most comfortable but what generates more power? My prior attempts I found being on edge throughout produced less power and it was easier. Uncertain though
Bmambisee: strings should definitely not be facing your back during the drop, they should be about 90 degrees, "on edge", ideally.
Is the student, often on Tennisspin?
lol, you mentioned it later on video. A sign I’m watching to many RUclips tennis videos!
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Waiter serves are always going to be relatively weak.
Absolutely....not stretching the shoulder = waiter tray...the very first example in this video.
@@EssentialTenniswell ...it seems to me that it's not so much her arm but her very straight body position that causes the angle.
All the other examples bend backwards (their face to the sky) to gaan the necessary power.
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Nice video, Ian. It’s interesting you chose one of the worst pro examples of forearm angle and supinated racket drop in your thumbnail image! It should’ve been Djokovic instead.
....you think Roger had a bad racquet drop? 😅
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Compare his forearm angle to the ground at its max to other pros please. Frequently he doesn’t even get to horizontal.
lol dude's rocking a mullet
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