I personally "upgraded" from 16-80 to the 18-55. The lens is much smaller, lighter, faster, doesn't lose focus in video while zooming and just feels more balanced, it's also much nicer to bring or when travelling, you definitely feel the size difference. One thing to stress is F4 is full frame equivalent to F6, on the iPhone you now have F6.2 equiv, so the 16-80 is marginally better than an iPhone for many types of photography (e.g. indoors, low light, casual), for a comparatively much heavier lens than other options. Being able to get to F2.8 at 18mm on the 18-55 is literally double the light coming into the lens, it makes the difference between a blurry or noisy image in a restaurant, vs a really nice one. Sure 16mm is noticeably wider, but at the expense of flatter (and in my opinion cheaper) looking images and the extra 25mm on the zoom end really isn't much, it won't make it much more useful for sports or wildlife and with F4 it has limited portrait use (if you even want to be this far away at 80mm). For me, the 18-55 is a clear winner and I sold my 16-80.
That's a nice 'upgrade' :) You're right that F4 and size/weight are significant dealbreakers. I like my 18-55 more as well but am gunning for the Sigma 18-50 2.8.
@@PetrGardianTV The Fujinon XF 16-55mm f/2.8 "red label" lens distinguishes itself with its remarkable sharpness and versatile focal range. Owning this lens provides the convenience of four prime lenses within a single unit. The XF 16-80mm lens presents several shortcomings. It features slower autofocus performance and susceptibility to focus loss while altering focal length in video recording. Furthermore, its absence of a linear motor (LM) results in noticeable focusing noise during operation. Additionally, I've experienced a decline in sharpness beyond a focal length of 60-65mm.
I recently tried the 16-80 F4 lens used and it didn't impress me, I found it is soft at the long end. I have the 18-55 2.8-4.0 which is my favorite lens for all the reasons you mentioned in your video, this smaller lens is tack sharp and that is priority one, it isn't weather resistant and that is fine. I will take sharpness of any lenses anytime before anything else.
@@PetrGardianTV Any lens that doesn't give you the clarity of a sharp image isn't worth anything. Photography is all making sharp images unless intentionally it is done otherwise.
Great video! Going to get a XT5 and stuck between choosing either of these for the kit. Looking to get a prime lens (Probably 50/55mm) down the line. Which of the two should I opt for? Or would getting the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 be better?
Hehehe I’m gonna grab the xt5 too soon once I have enough money and I was deciding on what lens to get whether to get the kit lens or a prime lens and I might just get the body (silver) and then a prime lens
Thank you! Sigma zoom wins over these two on size and speed. And some reviews indicate it’s sharpness is close to 16-55/2.8. But it depends if you need reach or not. For primes the old 35/1.4 still rocks but any of the new 1.4 primes are amazing as well.
I have a XT5 and i'm currently using Viltrox prime lens and i'm loving them, the difference between price almost lets you get 2 lens for the price of one.
Hey super video ! I'm still doubting, i have an xt-30 ii. I do mostly urban / portrait. *Only have a 35mm f2* I would like to get into zoom, but i'm worried that the 55mm isn't enough. What's your pick for a guy who's curious and all around traveler ? Thanks for your video btw ❤️🔥
Glad you liked it! I'm not sure what you mean by 'get into zoom' but for travel and with X-T30 the smaller one (18-55) will be better. Get a used one and you won't lose much if you decide that 55mm is not long enough.
Street and landscape are two different genres of photography. If I wanted to be more discreet on a street I'd take the 18-55 but for landscape the width and reach of 16-80 are huge benefit. I personally take a prime lens for street shooting and a zoom for lanscape.
Hi, I have just about decided to get the fujifilm xs10 with either one of these lenses. Which one would you recommend for hobby photography, mostly indoors?
Hi, for X-S10 and hobby photography I would get the 18-55. It's smaller size fits the camera better and the faster aperture at wide end will come handy when shooting indoors.
Fujifilm is using X-Trans sensor that they developed for the APS-C line of cameras. It's different from traditional Bayer-type sensor that Sony uses. But sensor is not the reason why Fujifilm cameras are expensive. It's because their cameras are unique in the retro design which not only looks good but adds more traditional dedicated controls on the camera body. People like this combination and so Fujifilm can afford to charge premium. If you want cheaped Fuji camera, look at used X-E3, X-T3 or even older models. They are all good and there's plenty to choose from on eBay. Good luck!
Up close the new 18 or 23mm f1.4 and if you have to have a zoom lens then Sigma 18-50/2.8. For reach - the best telephoto you can afford (to buy and carry :)).
Great price! If you can, try to mount it on your camera before purchase and see if you'll be put off by its size and weight. I generally prefer compactness over reach/performance but we are all different. BTW this video needs updating and including the Sigma 18-50/2.8 and Tamron 17-70/2.8. You may want to look at those as well.
@@PetrGardianTV oh thank you so much for the insight! Il look into the sigma and tamron too… unfortunately tho theres no way for me to get a hands on test in my country
@@Arnoldismouldy I'm happy to help :) It also depends on your camera. Bigger lens balances better on a bigger camera... Good luck in selecting the right lens but don't sweat it too much - they are all good :)
@@PetrGardianTV Like the way point & shoot cameras have 10x optical zoom, and the equivalent in say a fujifilm 15-45mm or 18-55mm. Im not even sure if it works out like that with mirrorless cameras. Im just a beginner, and clueless!
@@reflux043 Thanks, I get what you mean. The "times zoom" notation is simply the big number divided by the small one (so you can work it out for the Fujifilm zooms). It's popular in marketing but not very useful for photographers, who need to know the min and max focal length in full frame terms (1.5x for Fujifilm lenses). I think of a way to explain this in a video. Thanks for the inspiration!
You can see the example photos, right? Anyway, to sum it up, image quality is 'good enough' from both lenses and so it makes sense to focus on fit for purpose (which is far more important than few % of image quality improvement). If you want a big improvement, go for the 16-55/2.8.
I personally "upgraded" from 16-80 to the 18-55. The lens is much smaller, lighter, faster, doesn't lose focus in video while zooming and just feels more balanced, it's also much nicer to bring or when travelling, you definitely feel the size difference. One thing to stress is F4 is full frame equivalent to F6, on the iPhone you now have F6.2 equiv, so the 16-80 is marginally better than an iPhone for many types of photography (e.g. indoors, low light, casual), for a comparatively much heavier lens than other options.
Being able to get to F2.8 at 18mm on the 18-55 is literally double the light coming into the lens, it makes the difference between a blurry or noisy image in a restaurant, vs a really nice one. Sure 16mm is noticeably wider, but at the expense of flatter (and in my opinion cheaper) looking images and the extra 25mm on the zoom end really isn't much, it won't make it much more useful for sports or wildlife and with F4 it has limited portrait use (if you even want to be this far away at 80mm). For me, the 18-55 is a clear winner and I sold my 16-80.
That's a nice 'upgrade' :) You're right that F4 and size/weight are significant dealbreakers. I like my 18-55 more as well but am gunning for the Sigma 18-50 2.8.
@@PetrGardianTV
The Fujinon XF 16-55mm f/2.8 "red label" lens distinguishes itself with its remarkable sharpness and versatile focal range. Owning this lens provides the convenience of four prime lenses within a single unit.
The XF 16-80mm lens presents several shortcomings. It features slower autofocus performance and susceptibility to focus loss while altering focal length in video recording. Furthermore, its absence of a linear motor (LM) results in noticeable focusing noise during operation. Additionally, I've experienced a decline in sharpness beyond a focal length of 60-65mm.
@@ahmadfir7944 Thank you for this, good to know! The 16-55/2.8 is a great zoom lens indeed.
I recently tried the 16-80 F4 lens used and it didn't impress me, I found it is soft at the long end. I have the 18-55 2.8-4.0 which is my favorite lens for all the reasons you mentioned in your video, this smaller lens is tack sharp and that is priority one, it isn't weather resistant and that is fine. I will take sharpness of any lenses anytime before anything else.
Thanks for sharing. I agree with what you are saying but sometimes the extra reach is worth a little bit of sharpness.
@@PetrGardianTV Any lens that doesn't give you the clarity of a sharp image isn't worth anything. Photography is all making sharp images unless intentionally it is done otherwise.
Thankyou. was thinking about selling my 18-55 but i might just keep it.
Thank you! I'm sure you will not regret keeping it.
You own the lens and didn't knew, if you are happy with it, until you watched a review????
@@janehlers4629 sold it
@@Zainphotography Did you sell 18-55 and got 16-80?
@@hoangvan251 I sold the 16-80 and got the 18-55, it's a much better lens :) - much faster, smaller, lighter, doesn't lose focus when zooming, etc :)
Thank you for the video!
I’m getting into portrait/wedding photography and getting a Fuji camera. Which lens would you recommend for this?
Glad you liked it! The 16-55/f2.8 if you want work with zoom. Or a set of the new f1.4 (f1.2) primes.
Great video! Going to get a XT5 and stuck between choosing either of these for the kit. Looking to get a prime lens (Probably 50/55mm) down the line.
Which of the two should I opt for? Or would getting the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 be better?
Hehehe I’m gonna grab the xt5 too soon once I have enough money and I was deciding on what lens to get whether to get the kit lens or a prime lens and I might just get the body (silver) and then a prime lens
Thank you! Sigma zoom wins over these two on size and speed. And some reviews indicate it’s sharpness is close to 16-55/2.8. But it depends if you need reach or not. For primes the old 35/1.4 still rocks but any of the new 1.4 primes are amazing as well.
Silver body for the win!😀
@@PetrGardianTV lmao yeah the silver makes me feel so cool
I have a XT5 and i'm currently using Viltrox prime lens and i'm loving them, the difference between price almost lets you get 2 lens for the price of one.
Hey super video !
I'm still doubting, i have an xt-30 ii.
I do mostly urban / portrait.
*Only have a 35mm f2*
I would like to get into zoom, but i'm worried that the 55mm isn't enough.
What's your pick for a guy who's curious and all around traveler ?
Thanks for your video btw ❤️🔥
Glad you liked it! I'm not sure what you mean by 'get into zoom' but for travel and with X-T30 the smaller one (18-55) will be better. Get a used one and you won't lose much if you decide that 55mm is not long enough.
Объектив 16-80/f4 хороший и резкий , а отличный стабилизатор позволяет снимать на 1sek = 16mm(24mm) & 1/8sek = 80mm(120mm).
The OIS is very good indeed.
The 18-55 has linear motor as well, so it should be silent, at least mine was, does yours make noise?
I can hear it but would not call it 'noise'. The 16-80 has newer generation that is even faster and quieter.
hello, if you were to buy between the two lenses, which one would you buy for street and landscape photography?
Street and landscape are two different genres of photography. If I wanted to be more discreet on a street I'd take the 18-55 but for landscape the width and reach of 16-80 are huge benefit. I personally take a prime lens for street shooting and a zoom for lanscape.
Hi, I have just about decided to get the fujifilm xs10 with either one of these lenses. Which one would you recommend for hobby photography, mostly indoors?
Hi, for X-S10 and hobby photography I would get the 18-55. It's smaller size fits the camera better and the faster aperture at wide end will come handy when shooting indoors.
The sensors are though same with canon and other cameras, we are confused, why Fujifilm cameras are very expensive.
Please explain.
Fujifilm is using X-Trans sensor that they developed for the APS-C line of cameras. It's different from traditional Bayer-type sensor that Sony uses. But sensor is not the reason why Fujifilm cameras are expensive. It's because their cameras are unique in the retro design which not only looks good but adds more traditional dedicated controls on the camera body. People like this combination and so Fujifilm can afford to charge premium. If you want cheaped Fuji camera, look at used X-E3, X-T3 or even older models. They are all good and there's plenty to choose from on eBay. Good luck!
@@PetrGardianTV I shall definitely see.
18-55 f2.8-4 is 699$ on amazon vs 16-80 f4 799$. 18-55 might cost 400$ if buy a camera kit
Go used and 18-55 is yours for 1/3 of new.
Grabbed my 18-55 for $380aud on sale new :)
Which lens would you recommend for low light events like in clubs and music shows?
Up close the new 18 or 23mm f1.4 and if you have to have a zoom lens then Sigma 18-50/2.8. For reach - the best telephoto you can afford (to buy and carry :)).
Im finding the 16-80 for only 100 USD more... is it worth it? I want to use it while travelling
Great price! If you can, try to mount it on your camera before purchase and see if you'll be put off by its size and weight. I generally prefer compactness over reach/performance but we are all different. BTW this video needs updating and including the Sigma 18-50/2.8 and Tamron 17-70/2.8. You may want to look at those as well.
@@PetrGardianTV oh thank you so much for the insight! Il look into the sigma and tamron too… unfortunately tho theres no way for me to get a hands on test in my country
@@Arnoldismouldy I'm happy to help :) It also depends on your camera. Bigger lens balances better on a bigger camera... Good luck in selecting the right lens but don't sweat it too much - they are all good :)
@@PetrGardianTV yea i saw a bunch more reviews and i think you are absolutely right thabk youu. Ill go with the smaller one
Is there an advantage for either lense with the new 40mp cameras? Or does the MP not make any difference?
More MP will help with cropping but other than that the lenses are more than able to resolve the new 40Mp Fuji sensor.
Both lenses have silent linear motors (LM) for autofocusing
Yes, thanks.
Thank you!
Glad you found it helpful!
At 1:00, could you possibly do a video on how to work out mm into optical zoom? I can't really find any other videos on that.
Can you please clarify what do you mean by 'work out mm into optical zoom' ?
@@PetrGardianTV Like the way point & shoot cameras have 10x optical zoom, and the equivalent in say a fujifilm 15-45mm or 18-55mm. Im not even sure if it works out like that with mirrorless cameras. Im just a beginner, and clueless!
@@reflux043 Thanks, I get what you mean. The "times zoom" notation is simply the big number divided by the small one (so you can work it out for the Fujifilm zooms). It's popular in marketing but not very useful for photographers, who need to know the min and max focal length in full frame terms (1.5x for Fujifilm lenses).
I think of a way to explain this in a video. Thanks for the inspiration!
@@PetrGardianTV Thanks for explaining, and replying.
Hi! Im looking for one lense to use for the X-S10, most for hiking - both video and photo. wich would u recomend?
Sigma 18-50/2.8 :)
@@PetrGardianTV thanks!
thnk u bro
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You missed the most important part in this video. How does the image quality compare?
You can see the example photos, right? Anyway, to sum it up, image quality is 'good enough' from both lenses and so it makes sense to focus on fit for purpose (which is far more important than few % of image quality improvement). If you want a big improvement, go for the 16-55/2.8.
You missing the sigma 2.8
It wasn't on the market when I made this video.
where did you find that amazing grip for you X-E3? :O
It's the original MHG-XE3 hand grip from Fuji. Not cheap but worth every penny :)
There is always the Tamron 17-70 f/2.8 to consider.
Yes, it's on the large side but that's the price you pay for constant f2.8.
Wow
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